Dalvik virtual machine
Did anyone look at Dalvik, the virtual machine Google made for the Android project. http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/ - ask
Re: Anyone experiencing problems with rt.cpan.org?
Ovid wrote: In the last day or so, every time I go to rt.cpan.org, it seems to nearly finish loading a page and then just stalls. My problem was that I couldn't even log in yesterday. I eventually filed a bug report with perlbug-admin at perl and Robert had to diddle the database to get me sorted. Wasn't that rt._perl_.org? To the original poster: Posting about problems with a cpan.org or perl.org on a random-ish list or (worse) on use.perl or perlmonks is never the best way to get it resolved. - ask
Re: loadlib and libraries with '.' in the name
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua Juran) writes: [...] Google for NCI gtk. There is also a weekly summary entry but the xrl.us shortcut seems to have expired. If I found the same link you found then it's not the xrl.us shortcut - http://xrl.us/cw78 - but the Google group link that stopped working. I was wondering about that. I Googled for tinyurl considered harmful and was surprised to find only one message, discussing the phishing risks. I found no mention of the risk of outsourcing a bottleneck to a third party who has zero obligation or direct interest to continue providing the service. The use case for the Metamark service was actually to have a short links service for the perl list summaries (and for the perl community in general) to use that's not outsourced. (Metamark is running on a server a few feet above the servers your mail went through to go out to the list subscribers). From http://metamark.net/about#expire: Do Metamark links expire? The Metamark urls expire after five years or two years after the last usage - whichever comes later. However, if a link is never [...] Of course, this is subject to change and is no promise but just my intentions as of this writing. If you want guarantees you can make your own service. To be quite frank, I'm astonished the practice exists here in the first place. In my opinion it goes directly against the spirit of [...] Are you talking about expiring links or putting the short links in the mails that go out? Apart from the occasional phishing link then we haven't actually expired any of the metamark urls yet. I did some random spot checks on old short URLs used in the summaries and they get used regularly[1] so even if/when we start expiring unused links in a few years they won't go away. [1] by humans or bots, I don't know - for your privacy we don't track more than a daily count. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Exit status code from Test::More might go away
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael G Schwern) writes: Short version: I'm considering dropping the exit code feature from the default behavior of Test::Builder and making it something you can turn on instead. Does anyone find this feature useful or otherwise wish to protest its removal in 0.50? I'd rather encourage you to remove it! :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Testing Database Schema
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Bowden) writes: [...] lots of SQL to a common format. Both seem much too cumbersome, however. Anyone have any brighter ideas? Don't use a temporary database, just a temporary table. Surely that's more work? That depends on how you open your databases and how much trouble it is to use another database compared to munging the table name. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: [OT] Re: Single Sign-on Re: Perl Passport?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Chamberlain) writes: As I figured it out neither... Reason: auth.perl.org is part of the SSO (Single Sign-on) that was created especially for the perl.org domain and its sub-domains. As far as I know it isn't a service that is publicly available. And I also don't think that Ask or Robert will give away the source, as it is build specifically for perl.org and it's setup. Is that not http://svn.develooper.com/combust/auth/trunk/ ? You need a perl.org account to access it. (you can also use guest/guest). The version in that directory is the new version I've been working on. Hopefully we'll switch auth.perl.org over to use it not long after OSCON. Some of the fun things with the new system is that it supports sites on other domains properly, doesn't use a universal id and I plan to make it support multiple authentication services. The client library (perl only for now) is at: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Sau-Client/ There are some interesting links at the bottom of http://logintest.perl.org/doc/design_notes.html - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Testing Database Schema
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Bowden) writes: [...] The two best ideas we've had so far are to either run the SQL in the code against a temporary database, and then compare both SHOW CREATE TABLE outputs, or to use something like SQL::Translator to convert both lots of SQL to a common format. Both seem much too cumbersome, however. Anyone have any brighter ideas? One variation that might work (and if it does, it'd also work on other databases) would be to use DB::Introspector. http://search.cpan.org/dist/DB-Introspector/ - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: [DOCS] Documentation tools
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: [...] It's an ongoing fight between the go get the libs and install them folks and the self-contained distribution folks. I'm in the latter category. :) As Larry said, self-contained is good for users. For developers (and CVS) go get the libs is appropriate. A script can assemble the user distribution(s) with pre-defined versions of the libs to include. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
XGameStation
We totally need to have Parrot running on this thing when it comes out. :-) http://www.xgamestation.com/ - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: ponie-dev list
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Richard Clamp wrote: Will this be made available via nntp.perl.org? I don't currently see it when browsing http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/ NNTP groups are created automagically some hours after the list starts getting traffic. When it makes its way to Google Groups I don't have much control over, but over time it'll get there too. - ask -- http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ - http://develooper.com/
ponie-dev list
Hi, We setup a development list for ponie. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe. - ask -- http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ - http://develooper.com/
Parrot binaries
Hi, I tried making an RPM .spec file for parrot and noticed that there's still no make install target. To be useful or at least fun to play with I think we would need to also install things from languages/, but they seem to generally be, uh, fairly unstructured. :-) I also noticed[1] that many of the scripts does not have the +x bit set, and some of the documentation does(!). It's not possible to change this via CVS; but we can do it directly in the repository if someone makes a list of what should be +x. - ask [1] find ./ -type f -perm +001 -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
tinderbox all in flames
The tinderbox is all in flames. http://xrl.us/dxm (Link to tinderbox.perl.org) At least the miette, moof and rh80smoketest boxes should be okay; and they are not. :-) Sunday afternoon (PST) seems to be the hour of the big arson. However there are also indications that it started Friday night. :-) Slightly related, I think we could use some more tinderbox testers. Someone was running the tests on Compaq's test drive boxes, but that seems to have stopped? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Contributor License forms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Storrs) writes: Allison has asked me to be the coordinator to make sure that we all send in our Contributor License Forms. You can read all the license details at: http://snipurl.com/bkt http://pdp.perl.org/contributor_agreement also sends you to that page (and we can keep that url alive forever (for some definition of that). or email scanned copy to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, please make it pdp-editors at perl.org for now. The other address doesn't work and probably never will. :-) I received faxes from you and from Michael L so far. - ask (@perl.org if you haven't seen my name before) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: perl6-all doesn't seem to get these
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Laire) writes: [...] I have subscribed to both perl6-all and perl6-documentation, and these messages don't seem to get into perl6-all at all. It would have been better if you had told [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just browsed through the archive for this list and noticed your post. perl6-all should be getting the messages now. -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Parrot: maximizing the audience
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerome Quelin) writes: In the works is a new mail setup where we easily can have lists at other domains and still have them available via nntp etc. At that point I can create a dev at parrotcode.org list or something like that. (or when the perl6 people want to work on the internals of perl6 :-) ) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: [web-PATCH] parrot logo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: [...] The logo as currently used suffers from scaling issues, as it looks like the full-size one's used with a size specified. I fixed that. And made it png. -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: GC generation?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: Rollover won't really matter much, if we're careful with how we document things. Still, a UINTVAL should be at least 2^32--do you really think we'll have that many GC generations in a few hours? ... but having stuff running for months and months isn't that uncommon. :-) - ask (bikeshed color expert) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
design of bytecodes for interpretation
Raph Levien - http://www.advogato.org/person/raph and http://www.levien.com/ - talks about bytecode interpreters at http://www.advogato.org/person/raph/diary.html?start=261 With references to David McCusker http://treedragon.com/ged/map/ti/newAug02.htm#14aug02-stack-machines and to Pierre Phaneuf http://advogato.org/person/pphaneuf/diary.html?start=63 - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: admin question: mail gets tagged as spam when mailing bugs..@perl..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?Latin1?Q?Josef_h=F6=F6k?=) writes: As im not that familiar with spamassasin maybe someone could help me stop getting my mail tagged as spam when mailing patches.. Let [EMAIL PROTECTED] know about such thing and we'll take care of it. Most likely it has been fixed by Robert upgrading our perl to 5.8.0 proper. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Parrot contribution
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Porter) writes: Yeah, look at the so-called Parrot FAQ. Someone needs to get serious and make a real FAQ for parrot developers. I'm sure noone would mind if you start one! - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Glossary Requests
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Spier) writes: I've heard reports of rsync not working. I don't use it, so I dunno there. If someone's got the proper incantation, or follows the directions and it doesn't work (when you're *sure* you know what you're doing) I'll update it appropriately. Yes, this seems broken at the moment. I've opened a ticket and will get to fixing it soon. I fixed it. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: More 6PAN musings: local namespaces
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damian Conway) writes: Larry has previously mentioned the prospect of Perl 6 module names being extended to include version number and author. Yes, we even talked about it extensively at the CPAN meeting in Monterey 2 years ago. =) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: latest Parrot
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Robert Spier wrote: May I suggest requiring any non-trivial patches to contain: - the patch - a test - a human readable changelog entry +1! cvs log exports are rarely useful. Usually they go had problems with $baz so we changed $xfoo to $zfoo to avoid the mangle bug which is useful for the other developers to understand a change; but the human readable changelog should go fixed problem with $baz related to the mangle problem in python 5.1 and perl 6.9.3. which is useful for users of the package to know about what to look out for. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
[Oscon] Lightning Talks
If you are going to attend the Open Source Convention; please consider putting in a lightning talk. From: Nathan Torkington Subject: [Oscon] Lightning Talks Please pass the word around that we need more lightning talk proposals: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2002/create/e_sess?x-t=os2002_lt.create.form Lightning talks are for works-in-progress, ideas you think others could implement, explanations of neat things you've discovered, philosophical arguments, success stories, or anything else you can fit in five minutes. They're fun for the audience (it's like channel-surfing at a conference!) and fun for the speakers. Thanks, Nat If you don't know how they work, then there is also a page written by Mark-Jason Dominus here: http://perl.plover.com/lt/ (mjd coordinated most of the previous lightning talk sessions). -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
cvs.perl.org moved
Robert Spier and I moved cvs.perl.org to a new server tonight. Everything should work as usual, except maybe a bit faster. If anything is odd, not working as it used to, working better, not working at all, please send us mail at cvs at perl.org. The new server is faster, spiffier and better connected (the old one was behind a double T1 in an office; the new one is in a datacenter with 100Mbit ethernet to internap). It's donated by the kind people at Ticketmaster/CitySearch. - ask ps. we couldn't make parrot work for our perl programs yet, but we are using perl5.8 in production. :-D pps. we also decided to run some python on the server, so you can also access the cvs at http://cvs.perl.org/viewcvs/parrot/ Let us know what you think and if that should be permanent (viewcvs; not python. We will keep using that when it makes sense) :) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: cvs.perl.org moved
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian Bergmann) writes: [viewcvs] Have you had a look at CHORA [1]? It is IMHO the best web frontend for CVS. no, we haven't. Robert added to our todo list to look at it. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, !try; do(); http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ http://ask.netcetera.dk/
Re: Parrot and Mono / .Net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian Bergmann) writes: Leon Brocard wrote: Oh, this happens to be a FAQ. The main reason is: http://www.parrotcode.org/faq/ I know the technical reason for a new VM, but this could've been a new VM for Perl 6 only. What I'd like to know is the motivation to open up the architecture and allow for plugable parser, compilers, bytecode generators / optimizers, ... Because if we can support [insert random language here] then we can support a very flexible Perl 6 language. Or the other way around. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Larry's State of the Onion slides
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Nathan Torkington wrote: Larry's State of the Onion slides from TPC5 are now available from http://dev.perl.org/perl6/talks/ http://dev.perl.org/perl6/talks/onion5.pdf - ask Damian sent them to me in PPT form in January, and only now I converted them to PDF. Ask, could you put those onto the dev.perl.org site and announce to perl6-language? Thanks, -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ http://askbjoernhansen.com !try; do();
tinderbox history
we have the log output from more than 15 tinderbox builds of parrot. In the current system they are each stored as a separate file (in the same directory no less). Would anyone get terribly upset if I nuked say everything older than a month? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: tinderbox history
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: Would anyone get terribly upset if I nuked say everything older than a month? Too late now. :-) When it's done deleting then log lookups should be a lot faster. Robert said he'd work on a new tinderbox system (with help from Zach). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Perl6/Parrot status
Hi, I am tired of people thinking that we are not getting anywhere at all, so if (some|any|every)one can send me a reasonably updated text for the Where are we section at http://www.parrotcode.org/ and likewise for http://dev.perl.org/perl6/status then I would most appreciate it. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Parrot FAQ
I have added Adam's Parrot FAQ to www.parrotcode.org. It's being loaded from cvs.perl.org every hour, so just checkin updates to cvs there. I do, $Faq =~ s!.*BODY.*?(.*)/BODY.*!$1!s; $Faq =~ s!href=http://www.panix.com/~ziggy/parrot.html!href=/faq/!g; on it to fix it up, so when changing stuff, keep that in mind (or tell me to fix the mason component). It also tells that Ziggy is the maintainer. Ziggy, please let me know if you don't want to be listed. :-) There are no a name=...'s in the html, so the links from the toc doesn't work. If anyone wants to fix that, please do. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Parrot FAQ
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Bryan C. Warnock wrote: On Saturday 02 February 2002 08:53, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: I have added Adam's Parrot FAQ to www.parrotcode.org. It's being loaded from cvs.perl.org every hour, so just checkin updates to cvs there. I do, $Faq =~ s!.*BODY.*?(.*)/BODY.*!$1!s; $Faq =~ s!href=http://www.panix.com/~ziggy/parrot.html!href=/faq/!g; on it to fix it up, so when changing stuff, keep that in mind (or tell me to fix the mason component). It also tells that Ziggy is the maintainer. Ziggy, please let me know if you don't want to be listed. :-) There are no a name=...'s in the html, so the links from the toc doesn't work. If anyone wants to fix that, please do. Thanks, Ask, Here's the name patch: Cool. I applied it. Next time please apply yourself or send it without messed up line endings. :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: CPP Namespace pollution
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Melvin Smith wrote: Hm, the FAQ would be not linked from either of dev.perl.org or www.parrotcode.org. That's a bummer. Ask, could we move this to dev.perl.org please? Dare I suggest we check it into the repository and have a script update the site from the repository. At least then we can tell people to check the FAQ in your parrot distribution. That sounds good to me. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Parrot FAQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Fink) writes: On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 11:02:34AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: Q: Who has commit privileges? Who's responsible for what? A: Good question. Simon and Dan, and a handful of others. Can anyone fill in the handful? Ask, maybe? I'm hoping for a breakdown by section. [ask@netlabs ask]$ grep \|parrot /cvs/public/CVSROOT/avail avail|ask|parrot,mod_parrot,web,perlfaq,CVSROOT,cvs-test,qpsmtpd avail|simon|parrot avail|acme|parrot,web/parrotcode avail|dan|parrot avail|bdwheele|parrot avail|gregor|parrot avail|thgibbs|parrot avail|brentdax|parrot avail|gnat|parrot,web/parrotcode,perlfaq avail|tom|parrot avail|rootbeer|parrot avail|ajgough|parrot avail|jgoff|parrot -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: cvs.perl.org downtime (fwd)
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: the city is doing some compliance testing whatever on the building where cvs.perl.org is this Sunday (don't ask, I think it sounds odd too!). power is back up and so is the box where cvs.perl.org is. have fun. :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: cvs.perl.org downtime (fwd)
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: power is back up and so is the box where cvs.perl.org is. have fun. :) Ahaa... never mind the man behind the curtain. In a particular clever moment I screwed up the ipfw rules so now the box is running but noone can talk to it. It's 60 miles away so I can't be bothered to go and fix it right now (9pm sunday night). Sorry. Have fun doing something else then. :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
cvs.perl.org downtime (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:25:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cvs.perl.org downtime hi committers, the city is doing some compliance testing whatever on the building where cvs.perl.org is this Sunday (don't ask, I think it sounds odd too!). They say that we can expect downtime from 6am to 6pm PST. perl.org mailservice and all other websites than cvs.perl.org are hosted in the real colo so they will not be affected. I'm sure there's someone you ought to spend time with anyway, so don't cry too much. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
tinderbox
we have even more clients now, http://tinderbox.perl.org/tinderbox/showbuilds.cgi?tree=parrot ... so if you commit stuff be sure to check with tinderbox 20-60 minutes later that you at least didn't break anything obvious. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Languages in the core source tree?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael G Schwern) writes: [...] However, the author(s) of each individual interpreter should be responsible for their own language. Basically, a mini-pumpinking. oh, just to make it clear: Our CVS setup supports just giving someone access to certain directories within a cvs module. -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Schedule of things to come
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: [...] If the 0.02/0.03/0.04 versions of parrot leak, it's not that big a deal since it's not like we've got a long-running persistent interpreter like mod_parrot or anything... ;-) I think Robert and I are planning to get mod_parrot to work as soon as parrot has some kind of I/O. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Revamping the build system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paolo Molaro) writes: [...] I'm going to bite and say the words (and get the flames). autoconf automake libtool FWIW: I have the impression that they're not very happy with those in the apache httpd project. (But I am blissfully ignorant about the details). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Revamping the build system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Cozens) writes:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 09:05:33AM -0400, Andy Dougherty wrote:
While imperfect and Unix-centric, we can (and should!) learn a lot
from auto{conf,make} and metaconfig.
*nod*. I just had a look around, and most of the other languages are
using autoconf. But then, most of the other languages don't run on
upwards of 70 platforms. :(
I wonder how serious we need to be about keeping that goal.
I think we need to be serious about making it possibly. The freaks
with the weirdo platforms will make it work.
- ask
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Re: Languages in the core source tree?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: At 07:15 AM 10/22/2001 -0700, Wizard wrote: 1) Do we put them all in the parrot CVS tree I think it would be good for the languages to be in tree, but I would like to have it under a different mechanism for cvs checkout. In other words, the default cvs checkout of parrot does NOT check out the languages tree, but a separate checkout is required for the languages. I'll ask Ask and see what we can do for that. one way to do that would be to make a parrot-languages module and put them in there. Then we can have a 'parrot-full' module that will checkout parrot/ and parrot-languages into parrot/languages/ It can probably be done in two billion other ways, of which some might fit better. But it's 6.20am and my brain's associative search system is only processing about 0.14 ideas per minute. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: cvs snapshots
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, H.Merijn Brand wrote: On Mon 17 Sep 2001 23:08, Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oops, I forgot to tell anyone. I made CVS export and tar up a snapshot every 6 hours. It is available at http://cvs.perl.org/snapshots/parrot/ Any chance on rsync? If so, I might set up another smoke suite to bother you with reports :) rsync -av cvs.perl.org::parrot-HEAD parrot it's only updated every 6th hour. Maybe I'll get time to get it to update more often (but not create a snapshot) tonight. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: CVS update mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) writes: Simon Cozens writes: So maybe the best thing would be for people to send patches to the list and Cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if, when RT comes online, we could use that to manage the patches. In other words, patches become open to do items, which are cleared when the patches are definitively applied or rejected. uh, RT is online. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
mod_parrot
Robert Spier and I just had some fun. Parrot for Apache. :-) http://cvs.perl.org/cvsweb/mod_parrot/ It's really simplistic and doesn't actually work. As Robert just told me, it'll be really ugly to get to actually send stuff back to the browser until Parrot has some kind of real IO subsystem. But it does do the work. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
cvs
the cvs box will be down for a little while again. Hopefully I'll get it moved to the other box over the weekend where I can give access to the few new people Dan and Simon have asked me to make accounts for. And it'll be more stable. And faster. Harder Better Faster Stronger. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
TPC5 Onion slides
Hi, I can't find Larry's slides from TPC5 online anywhere. Is it just me or what? :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than 100M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
[Python-Dev] Intel's Open Runtime Platform (ORP) (fwd)
I don't think anyone mentioned this before here... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:43:53 -0700 From: Neil Schemenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Python-Dev] Intel's Open Runtime Platform (ORP) I just saw this while updating my Debian machine: Package: orp Description: Java VM and JIT from Intel Research Lab. ORP stands for Open Runtime Platform, which is an Intel(TM) Open Source research platform for investigating dynamic compilation and memory management technologies. The basic ORP system incorporates a fast code generating JIT (Just-In-Time) as well as an optimizing JIT. It also includes several GC (Garbage Collection) algorithms, ranging from a simple mark-sweep algorithm to an advanced train algorithm. Its available at http://intel.com/research/mrl/orp/ and is released under a BSD-like license. Neil ___ Python-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev
Re: http://www.ora.com/news/vhll_1299.html
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Sam Tregar wrote: [...] On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Adam Turoff wrote: Um, that's not what the article was talking about The proposal is to use an XML syntax to program in existing VHLL languages, including Perl. This would supposedly allow programmers to embed drawings as documentation my first thought was, =pod for xml resource image source visio3000.png /source /image /resource =cut - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
http://dev.perl.org/
Hi, A while ago Nathan wrote some more information about Perl6 and I finally got around to modernize the dev.perl.org site (so it uses mason and mod_perl now) and put it on. http://dev.perl.org/ http://dev.perl.org/perl6/architecture http://dev.perl.org/perl6/status I also copied the Apocalypses and the Exegesis over from perl.com to the new site here. Some stuff has been moved around, but all the old links should still work. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: perl 6 mailing lists status
On Sun, 27 May 2001, Bryan C. Warnock wrote: perl6-all - Current mega-subscription list. (What mailing lists does this cover, and how is that determined as lists come and go?) In use. perl6-all is subscribed to all other perl6-.*@perl.org lists. perl6-language-unlink - Originally chaired by Nathan Wiger. unlink(). Closed. No archive, although there is a link to one. it's already closed. I don't think it ever got used. At least, I can't find any postings. perl6-meta - The catchall list chaired by Nat Torkington. In use. it's not catch all, it's for mails like these. :-) perl6-porters - A mailing list from Topaz days. Freeze (if we want to parallel p5p for maintenance and porting post Perl 6 delivery.). Last post was 15 Feb 2001. hmpfr, it's not supposed to be alive. http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00200.html Michael Schwern's perl-qa is also on the list, and seems to be included in perl6-all, although his stated goal (and the current traffic) isn't Perl 6 specific - hence the name. Correct. The current page should probably break the lists up into two (or three, if Frozen is acceptable) sections, for the current and closed lists. Ask, I can send you a revamped page after the details have been worked out (barring Warnock's Dilemma). That'd be great. Please edit http://dev.perl.org/working-groups.txt (and if needed http://dev.perl.org/build-wg-list.pl). :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
the list archives ...
... at http://archive.develooper.com/?M=D should now be updating again. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: list logs?
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Dan Brian wrote: Logs on archive.develooper.com for p6l and p5p haven't been written to since 4/27. I assume somebody is already looking at it, or updates are scheduled for longer periods than before? I haven't had time to get them updating again since I moved the perl.org mail to the new box. real soon now, real soon now. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
[meta] perl.org mail, ftp.cpan.org, www.perl.org and so on...
In the next hour or so we will be moving the box hosting ftp.cpan.org, cpan.valueclick.com, (perl|cpan).org mail, www.cpan.org, www.perl.org and so on to the rack next to the one it's in now. The downtime should be less than 10 minutes, but now you are forewarned in case I hit the 110V/230V switch while we move it or something. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
perl.org cpan.org mail
Ack. For quite a while I've had the project of getting everything on tmtowtdi.perl.org moved to a new box called onion. The CPAN foo I'm hosting was moved a while ago and www.perl.org has been running on onion ever since I started hosting it at ValueClick, so those sites were not affected. Earlier today tmtowtdi had to be moved to a new rack, and when they turned it on again it didn't quite feel like booting. So, it got moved from the datacenter to it's current place behind my desk and I got it started. Instead of just getting it running, changing DNS, going home and hoping for the best, I took the opportunity to get stuff moved to onion. It seems like we have all data in good shape, and if not there's the nightly backups. perl.org and cpan.org mail is running again and all queued mail from the secondary MX has been processed. I will open up the websites that were on tmtowtdi in a few minutes. bugs.perl.org is not running as it will require some coordination with Richard or more work than I can bother to do right now. So, please don't blame Richard for perlbug being down. It's all my fault. Also, the people who had accounts to update the sites and whatnot on tmtowtdi doesn't have access to onion (yet). If they'll please mail me, then I'll get them set up again. There's probably some other stuff missing that I forgot about right now. Please mail me and let me know. The good part is that the new box is much faster, not running some ancient Linux and have RAID-5. So you can now receive both perl6-all and p5p faster than you can start a tail on your mail log after posting. - ask ps. if any of the above doesn't make much sense it's because I've eaten approximately 2 tons of mini snickers and not much else today. Argh. -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
string concatenation operator - please stop.
To me this whole thing looks like bike shedding at it's worst at this point. Please stop and read this http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING and possibly this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=506636+517178+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-hackers/19991003.freebsd-hackers before writing more on the subject, huh? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Tim Bunce wrote: [...] That beautiful code will be beautifully _open_ to _external_ extensions. And that is how I imagine that Perl 5 support should be implemented. Exactly. I am pretty sure that already at the meeting in Monterey someone suggested that Perl5 should be the first test of the language extension mechanism. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Apocalypse 1 from Larry
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, A. C. Yardley wrote: 16 bdb Keep default Perl free of constraints such as warnings and strict. 73 adb All Perl core functions should return objects ^ [...] I might at some point add a ``d'' for Deferred, if I really think it's too soon to decide something. is already in effect? No. Read again. The two first flags was an a-f "grade". - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: State of PDD 0
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: I have created perl6-announce-pdd. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for clues. by the way, Adam Turoff was kind and volunteered to take the PDD archive pumpkin like he was handling the bazillion RFC's. [EMAIL PROTECTED] will thus go to him now. Be sure to buy him an extra beer or three at TPC[1]. - ask [1] or just go and pick it up at the bar for him if they are free. :) -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/
Re: RFC archive?
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Matthew Cline wrote: What's the URL for the RFC archive? always try google first. http://www.google.com/search?q=perl6+rfc+index would have let you straight to http://dev.perl.org/rfc/ - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/
Re: C Garbage collector
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Alan Burlison wrote: Alan Burlison wrote: I've attached the HTML Well it was there when I sent it... does this list strip attachments or something? yes, it does. It is usually just misconfigured mailers or spam. -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/
Re: State of PDD 0
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Dan Sugalski wrote: Ask, all, are we reusing perl6-rfc as the submittal address, or will there be a new one (perl-pdd)? I'm in favour of renaming to reflect the new use of the list. Dan? I've been thinking since I sent my last mail on this that we might actually want to leave the two (PDD RFC) separate. Keep on with the RFCs for 'external' things, and PDD for the actual internals implementation of things. I have created perl6-announce-pdd. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for clues. How should the submission process work? As for the RFC's? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: State of PDD 0
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Bryan C. Warnock wrote: On Tuesday 20 February 2001 17:38, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: I have created perl6-announce-pdd. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for clues. How should the submission process work? As for the RFC's? Can you confirm the actual submission address? Are we using perl-pdd? And did we want to make this Perl 6 specific, or Perl generic (like perl-qa is)? Notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] after sending the (unnumbered) PDD to perl6-internals and I will add it to the list. Will be changed when the PDD traffic gets higher. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Auto-install (was autoloaded...)
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Stephen P. Potter wrote: Lightning flashed, thunder crashed and "Branden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] whisp ered: | For the list managers: Could we have a list apart from -language, so that we | don't bother all with this `par'-issue ??? Please? Perhaps a list that | includes the issue on directory structure, and other issues related to | installation and deployment of Perl itself and Perl programs modules. How about a perl6-install list? This discussion really doesn't fit into any of the current top level lists, so we can make a new top level and cover other installation issues as well. Ask, can you make this, if the name is agreeable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] already exists. http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/
Re: This week on the perl6 mailing lists (04--11 Feb 2001)
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: [...] To you, and to everyone else who has asked, yes. I'm working on setting up a list right now, hosted at netthink. It's currently subscribable, but there are some teething problems with posting. (Which needn't concern you, except that if you subscribe right now, you'll see a flurry of test posts for a while.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the magic address; at some point in the near future, I might move the perl5-porters digest there as well. -digest has a specific meaning with many mailing list managers. I would suggest calling it perl6-summaries or such to avoid confusion. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Mail problems? [simon@cozens.net: Re: Now, to try again...]
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Simon Cozens wrote: This is the fourth time I've sent this mail to perl6-internals-api-parser, I've seen it on the list at least twice. but it doesn't seem to be arriving. None of my other mail is affected, and perl5-porters is, for once, behaving itself; why this list in particular? Send me the log snippets from your mailserver successfully delivering the mail to one of the perl.org mx'es and I can look after it. If it was before the weekend, don't bother though. The 70MB's I have for qmail logs rotate pretty quickly. So maybe this is better: Next time you think it happens, send me a mail right away and I can look into it. (perl.org haven't ever dropped mail since I started taking care of it as far as I know. Are you sure that you'll receive bounces, your envelope sender is often changing). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Proposal for groups
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Casey R. Tweten wrote: Today around 1:16pm, Ask Bjoern Hansen hammered out this masterpiece: : On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Simon Cozens wrote: : : On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:23:42PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: : perl6-internals-design is for a team of no more than 10 people. : : And we decide those ten... how? :) : : The ~ten who thinks they have the skills and dares to step forward : and volunteer? What if you feel you can obtain the skills, with out too many of those process delaying questions, and still be and asset? You can optain the skills in the process and exercising them on the perl6-internals list. Of course, that would mean that 10 slots would not be enough, no doubt. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Proposal for groups
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:23:42PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: perl6-internals-design is for a team of no more than 10 people. And we decide those ten... how? :) The ~ten who thinks they have the skills and dares to step forward and volunteer? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Fwd: ezmlm response
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, David Grove wrote: Out of curiosity, is majordomo deprecated? yes. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
[off-topic] perl.org server name
hi, this is a little off-topic, so PLEASE answer privately; I'll sum up in a day or three. I'm getting a new box to replace the current hardware running tmtowtdi.perl.org (perl and cpan.org mail, ftp.perl.org, www.cpan.org and other stuff), so I need a Perlish name for it. Reusing the same name will introduce more trouble than I have time for, so I need a new name so I can start moving services over. Send suggestions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A name we'll use will be awarded with 2 years FREE subscription to as many of the public @perl.org mailinglists as (s)he wants! =) - ask ps. impatience, laziness and hubris are not cool names since we're already using those at ValueClick (or we did in the past) :) -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/
Re: The new api groups
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, David Grove wrote: I'm very surprised to see planning groups for api and parsing for perl6 springing up, with goals of providing RFC's in nine days. The "deadlines" has never been a implicit mark where work would have to stop, but just a date for when the chair (or whoever) should stop up, breathe, see if the group is getting anywhere and either shut it down or change something if not. -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
new lists. perl6-internals-api-*
Subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For example [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the first list. More information at http://dev.perl.org/lists CHAIR: Dan Sugalski WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-api-extensions DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000 MISSION: Develop the API for perl 6 extensions DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the API perl presents to extensions. This group should develop an RFC for this, as well as a header file, stub source, and as a few rough test programs. CHAIR: Dan Sugalski WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-api-embed DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000 MISSION: Develop the API for perl 6 embedders DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the API perl presents to embedding programs. This group should develop an RFC for this, as well as a header file, stub source, and as a few rough test programs. CHAIR: Dan Sugalski WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-api-parser DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000 MISSION: Develop the API for the perl 6 parser DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the API for the perl 6 parser/lexer/tokeniser. This group should develop an RFC for this, as well as a header file, stub source, and as a few rough test programs. The parser will be written in perl. CHAIR: Dan Sugalski WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-syntax-tree DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000 MISSION: Develop the syntax tree structure for perl 6 DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the structure of the syntax tree (or HIR, if you'd prefer that term) that the perl 6 parser hands off to the bytecode compiler, optimizer, and execution engine. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/
Re: Now and then
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Adam Turoff wrote: [..] titled - RFC ## (v#): Add XYZ into Perl. That traffic is also easy to find in the archives. That will probably be less of an issue with a strong lack of RFC activity during the implementation phase. It very well could be that anyone doing serious work is going to subscribe to perl6-all, and the perl6-* lists exist for those who just want to listen. Yes, I agree. And for those who are trying to do something the implicit rough sorting in topics the different lists give are also helpful. Or so it is for me. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
RE: Continued RFC process
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, David Grove wrote: [public voting] Good? Bad? as someone who in a former life was part of creating news groups and such I can only say bad things about "public voting" in an environment like this. It just doesn't work and just doesn't measure anything useful. If you can answer Who should be able to vote and why? How do you control that only those people vote? then we can move on to the next obstacles. There is plenty to go. The whole concept is just flawed. Votes like this is in best case just a skewed opinion poll. Besides, we already got consensus that we don't like it some months ago on the bootstrap list. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
RE: RFC 346 (v1) Perl6's License Should be (GPL|Artistic-2.0)
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, David Grove wrote: [...] I don't know, it just doesn't feel like the holes are closed. How do we let people "nab it and do good things with it", but prohibit people from "nabbing it and doing bad things with it"? Personally I don't care. For all I care anyone can do all the bad and evil with it they want to, as long as they don't prevent me or others from doing good things with it. If the "bad people" make something useful after all, hey great - more useful software for us! If they don't, well... who cares then? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
new list: perl6-internals-unicode
CHAIR: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-unicode CHAIR: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] DEADLINE: Oct 28, 2000 MISSION: Develop a consistent vision of how perl should handle unicode (and all character data) internally. DESCRIPTION: This group's mission is to get perl 6 a solid foundation to handle unicode data. This includes how perl handles character and binary data internally, as well as how it presents that data to external code. (Including binary extensions and embedding apps) subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more info at http://dev.perl.org/lists - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: I think the AL needs a rewrite
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Ben Tilly wrote: [...] Sorry, I thought most would be familiar with this story. Sorry, I misinterpreted what you said as the usual "BSD-like licenses are evil, just see what Microsoft did with Kerberos". - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: new list: perl6-source-control@perl.org
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] eh, that would be [EMAIL PROTECTED] of course. Thanks to Michael G Schwern for increasing my clue'o'meter. - ask (who have a root canal ready tooth and another one that is cracked making him not sleep all that well these days). -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
new list: perl6-source-control@perl.org
List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deadline: 18 September 2000 Mission: To decide the source control system (Perforce, CVS, etc) to be used for perl6 development. subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information at http://dev.perl.org/lists - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: RFC 39 (v3) Perl should have a print operator
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Bart Lateur wrote: Those are not the semantics of print. It returns true (1) if successful, and false (undef) otherwise. You cannot change that. If I write print "0", it bloody well shan't be returning false. Oh, why not? Does anybody actually *ever* check the return value of print? I think it's not as if we'd break a lot of code. uh, what? you don't do much socket programming now, do you? sockets breaks all the time. Disks runs out of space while you write to files. and so on and so on. Problem is: if you need defined() to see if the print was succesful, you cannot return what was printed as well. It's one thing or the other. So you cannot have it both ways. I really don't understand why you want to have what's printed. If you need it in a variable, you can just make the variable first and then print. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: RFC 39 (v3) Perl should have a print operator
On 8 Sep 2000, Chaim Frenkel wrote: Oh, why not? Does anybody actually *ever* check the return value of print? I think it's not as if we'd break a lot of code. ABH uh, what? you don't do much socket programming now, do you? sockets ABH breaks all the time. Disks runs out of space while you write to ABH files. and so on and so on. Could someone enlighten this poor soul and tell me what I _can_ do with an error return from a print or close? rollback transactions to the database, flag the thing you tried to do as something that should be retried, close and reopen the socket connection and try again, send a mail to the NOC that the world is on fire, etcetera, etcetera ... Tim always refers to http://search.cpan.org/doc/TIMB/DBI_Talk4_2000/sld024.htm Reporting it may be useless (disk full). eh? I like to get someone aware of it so the problem can be fixed. I also like my application to stop doing whatever it tried to do and if possibly know what it didn't do so it can try it again later. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: code repository
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: [...] Also, what if people want to learn how the source system works on their own, and experiment with it? With only 100-user license, we are pretty tight as to who can do that. There are probably more than 100 people on the various perl6 mailing lists who'd want to at least experiment with the system on their own. there's a built-in 2-client license you can play with if you just download the daemon from perforce. Also the number 100 was just a semi-random number I picked when I faxed the license request. I could as well have written 1000 I'm sure. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Message ID's?
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Bart Lateur wrote: My suggestion, plain and simpl: add a custom header with the assigned message ID. it's in the envelope sender which all decent delivery agents will put in some header for you. (commonly the Return-Path header). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Perl 6 announcement list
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Nathan Torkington wrote: Yes. I hadn't envisaged the sheer number of RFCs, and hence the traffic on the announcements list. Perhaps we rename perl6-announce to perl6-announce-rfc, then create a new perl6-announce (with all the subscribers of the rfc list) to hold mailing list and project status reports? yes, I have been thinking the same thing. If noone objects in the next few days I'll go ahead and do it. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
new list: perl6-meta@perl.org
Hi, I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED] which will take over the discussions currently on bootstrap. The subscription list WILL NOT be transferred to the new list, but perl6-all is subscribed of course. If you are not at perl6-all you might want to subscribe to perl6-meta by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The new list will be closed for postings for a few days. Then I'll close the bootstrap list and open perl6-meta for postings. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
new list: perl6-language-regex
subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more details at http://dev.perl.org/lists LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CHAIR: Mark-Jason Dominus [EMAIL PROTECTED] MISSION:Draft and discuss RFCs related to regexp language issues in Perl 6. Report weekly to Language WG. DEADLINE: September 30th (semi-permanent sublist) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
mail filtering for perl6-all
I added another header to the perl6-all mails. X-Mailing-List-Name will contain the original list name, san -help and whatnot. So the recommended procmail filter rule would now be: :0: * ^Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm * ^X-Mailing-List-Name: \/(.*) perl/$MATCH or something like that. Enjoy, - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
new list: perl6-language-data@perl.org
subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more information at http://dev.perl.org/lists LIST: perl6-language-data CHAIR: Jeremy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] MISSION:Discuss and draft RFCS for Perl 6 language features related to the Perl Data Language (PDL) and numeric Perl in general. Report weekly to the Language WG. DEADLINE: September 30th - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
list changes: perl6-language-objects added, perl6-language-unlinkclosed
Subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More details at http://dev.perl.org/lists.shtml LIST: perl6-language-objects CHAIR: Nathan Wiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] MISSION:Develop RFCs related to objects and OO programming in Perl, possibly rationalising existing RFCs where they cover the same ground. DEADLINE: As long as it takes. Report fortnightly (first report August 29th). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
