[GENERAL] Estimate on gborg rescue?
Hi, I just checked, and gborg is still dead. In fact, the hostname is no longer valid (there's no A record). Do we have even an estimate for when it will be back? Can the estimator please publish that somewhere in big flashing letters or something? I can totally appreciate that this is a volunteer project, that people have other things happen to them, and that the project cannot always be the central issue in people's lives. Nevertheless, the gborg site has been down for a long time. We have argued for ages that there is no need to keep things in the core distribution because we have these seamless additional modular components that snap together to form a system. Not much of an argument when people can't even get to the sites supporting those additional components, because -- oops! -- the site doesn't even exist in DNS. On another note, these are listed as authorities for postgresql.org: postgresql.org. 7848IN NS ns-a.lerctr.org. postgresql.org. 7848IN NS ns-b.lerctr.org. But they're not responding with answers or even authority for them. So the general DNS is messed up too. If I can be of any assistance whatsoever, please feel free to hit me up. My office phone is +1 416 673 4110, in case someone needs it. I'm even on call this week, so you should be able to reach me more or less any time. A -- Andrew Sullivan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] This work was visionary and imaginative, and goes to show that visionary and imaginative work need not end up well. --Dennis Ritchie ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [GENERAL] Estimate on gborg rescue?
Hi, I just checked, and gborg is still dead. In fact, the hostname is no longer valid (there's no A record). Do we have even an estimate for when it will be back? Can the estimator please publish that somewhere in big flashing letters or something? Yes, Marc posted to -www earlier today. However, there are now major DNS issues which mean that archives is unavailable. But once they pop up, you will find it :-) Anyway, I'll paste it in at the bottom of this mail FYI. I can totally appreciate that this is a volunteer project, that people have other things happen to them, and that the project cannot always be the central issue in people's lives. Nevertheless, the gborg site has been down for a long time. We have argued for ages that there is no need to keep things in the core distribution because we have these seamless additional modular components that snap together to form a system. Not much of an argument when people can't even get to the sites supporting those additional components, because -- oops! -- the site doesn't even exist in DNS. Yes, this is definitely a big problem. On another note, these are listed as authorities for postgresql.org: postgresql.org. 7848IN NS ns-a.lerctr.org. postgresql.org. 7848IN NS ns-b.lerctr.org. But they're not responding with answers or even authority for them. So the general DNS is messed up too. Unable to get at Marc right now, but I believe these issues are much related. Hosts are dropping out of the hub.org nameservers one by one as well, probably as TTL expires. It just happens that the full zone has expired from lerctr.org by now, because for some reason the primary is broken. For example, the mirrors.postgresql.org zone (delivering static.mirrors.postgresql.org which is our main website) is still answering fine from lerctr - but it runs off a *different* primary server) //Magnus Marcs mail: -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [pgsql-www] Finally, the end of a nightmare ... After almost 3 weeks without a proper internet connection, this morning I got high speed cable installed in our new residence, and this evening, I finally got the backup server back online ... Apologies to those using gborg for how long it has taken to get things back online ... the temporary internet connection we were able to get the server onto was reporting ~3 days of constant upload to get gborg uploaded ... the new net connection took 5 hours ... I will be working tomorrow on getting gborg back up and running ... this will be put onto the 64bit server, so that it can be easily moved to the new HP server that arrived while I was offline ... There *was* a lose of data with this crash, unfortunately, so I hope those on the slony project have backups of any commits made over the ~2 week period *before* the server crashed ... once it goes onto the 64bit server, the redundant local backup will be re- enabled, but since we were at the end of moving off of 4.x, the redundant server option wasn't working, and with the backup server down while we moved, offsite backups were temporarily offline when neptune crashed :( Will post once gborg is back online ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] Estimate on gborg rescue?
Andrew Sullivan wrote: Hi, I just checked, and gborg is still dead. In fact, the hostname is no longer valid (there's no A record). Do we have even an estimate for when it will be back? Can the estimator please publish that somewhere in big flashing letters or something? I can totally appreciate that this is a volunteer project, that people have other things happen to them, and that the project cannot always be the central issue in people's lives. Nevertheless, the gborg site has been down for a long time. We have argued for ages that there is no need to keep things in the core distribution because we have these seamless additional modular components that snap together to form a system. The exact same person physically responsible for the health of Gborg is also responisble for PostgreSQL.Org. This has nothing to do with a modular component argument. Joshua D. Drake If I can be of any assistance whatsoever, please feel free to hit me up. My office phone is +1 416 673 4110, in case someone needs it. I'm even on call this week, so you should be able to reach me more or less any time. A -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] Estimate on gborg rescue?
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 02:42:36PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: Unable to get at Marc right now, but I believe these issues are much related. Hosts are dropping out of the hub.org nameservers one by one as well, probably as TTL expires. It just happens that the full zone has expired from lerctr.org by now, because for some reason the primary is broken. Do we need additional DNS hands? That happens to be a thing I know a little about. A -- Andrew Sullivan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the future this spectacle of the middle classes shocking the avant- garde will probably become the textbook definition of Postmodernism. --Brad Holland ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [GENERAL] Estimate on gborg rescue?
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 07:09:14AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: The exact same person physically responsible for the health of Gborg is also responisble for PostgreSQL.Org. This has nothing to do with a modular component argument. Well, it does at the moment, because gborg has been down forever whereas www.postgresql.org stayed up. Although now that the DNS is in serious panting mode, I think we may have a different set of issues. A -- Andrew Sullivan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fact that technology doesn't work is no bar to success in the marketplace. --Philip Greenspun ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [GENERAL] Estimate on gborg rescue?
DNS issue was fixed this aft, and I'm currently working on reviving the vServer right now ... CVS itself should be working now ... Sorry for the delay ... On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Andrew Sullivan wrote: Hi, I just checked, and gborg is still dead. In fact, the hostname is no longer valid (there's no A record). Do we have even an estimate for when it will be back? Can the estimator please publish that somewhere in big flashing letters or something? I can totally appreciate that this is a volunteer project, that people have other things happen to them, and that the project cannot always be the central issue in people's lives. Nevertheless, the gborg site has been down for a long time. We have argued for ages that there is no need to keep things in the core distribution because we have these seamless additional modular components that snap together to form a system. Not much of an argument when people can't even get to the sites supporting those additional components, because -- oops! -- the site doesn't even exist in DNS. On another note, these are listed as authorities for postgresql.org: postgresql.org. 7848IN NS ns-a.lerctr.org. postgresql.org. 7848IN NS ns-b.lerctr.org. But they're not responding with answers or even authority for them. So the general DNS is messed up too. If I can be of any assistance whatsoever, please feel free to hit me up. My office phone is +1 416 673 4110, in case someone needs it. I'm even on call this week, so you should be able to reach me more or less any time. A -- Andrew Sullivan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] This work was visionary and imaginative, and goes to show that visionary and imaginative work need not end up well. --Dennis Ritchie ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
