Re: [GENERAL] What does tuple concurrently updated mean?

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
Florian G. Pflug [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 During a batch load of records (using COPY) I got the following
 postgres error today tuple concurrently updated.

I don't think plain COPY could have produced that, since it only inserts
tuples.  Tell us about triggers and foreign keys on this table?

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] What does tuple concurrently updated mean?

2005-04-25 Thread Florian G. Pflug
Tom Lane wrote:
Florian G. Pflug [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
During a batch load of records (using COPY) I got the following
postgres error today tuple concurrently updated.
I don't think plain COPY could have produced that, since it only inserts
tuples.  Tell us about triggers and foreign keys on this table?
Sorry, I was confused. The error didn't actually happen while copying,
it happened while analyze-ing the tables after the import. I
confused this, because the analyze is started from our import-script,
and the log just showed the error-message postgres gave ;-)
So - does tuple concurrently updated make sense for analyze?
greetings, Florian Pflug



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Re: [GENERAL] What does tuple concurrently updated mean?

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
Florian G. Pflug [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 So - does tuple concurrently updated make sense for analyze?

Yeah, it's entirely possible, if you have a background process that
might issue analyzes too (do you use autovacuum?).  The error comes when
two sessions concurrently try to update the same row in pg_statistic.
I've looked at preventing it, but the cure seems worse than the disease
--- we don't really want ANALYZE to take any strong locks on the table,
and in any case all you are losing is presumably-near-duplicate stats
from one session or the other.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] What does tuple concurrently updated mean?

2005-04-25 Thread Florian G. Pflug
Tom Lane wrote:
Florian G. Pflug [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So - does tuple concurrently updated make sense for analyze?
Yeah, it's entirely possible, if you have a background process that
might issue analyzes too (do you use autovacuum?).  The error comes when
two sessions concurrently try to update the same row in pg_statistic.
I've looked at preventing it, but the cure seems worse than the disease
--- we don't really want ANALYZE to take any strong locks on the table,
and in any case all you are losing is presumably-near-duplicate stats
from one session or the other.
Hm... could this be turned into a warning then? I'll fix this
by ignoring db-errors when issuing analyze, but I belive this
will bite more people...
Anyway, thanks for your fast reply - I'll sleep much better,
now that I know the cause for this ;-)
greetings, Florian Pflug


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