Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Page
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Easy Dave. I was simply trying to figure out where the .bin came from,
 which in turn came with a recommendation which I stand by that no one
 should be using anything but operating supported packages (in this
 case RPM, and assuming the package is available).

Which, not all of it is, at least not from any source I'm aware of.

 I think it is also important to make a distinction that it is not
 a .Org distributed file, so if there is a problem we can point the
 user in the right direction to get help. Which may or may not be on
 this list.

Whether or not it's '.Org distributed' is irrelevant - I doubt you
could help with a win32 installation problem for example. What is
relevant, is the origin of the package, regardless of whether it came
from the PostgreSQL ftp site.

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Page
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Gurjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why you have a PG 8.2 data directory under /usr/local/postgresql_8.3
 is another question entirely...

 OP has data directory in /base/data, /usr/local/postgresql_8.3/data is the
 default from the installer.
 ...
 Data Directory [/usr/local/postgresql_8.3/data]: /base/data
 ...


Yeah, I get that - I designed the installer to work that way, and to
check that a pre-existing data directory is of the correct catalog
version before allowing the user to proceed.

What I was getting at was why the OP appears to have an 8.2 data
directory under a directory called 'postgresql_8.3'.


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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake

Dave Page wrote:

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Easy Dave. I was simply trying to figure out where the .bin came from,
which in turn came with a recommendation which I stand by that no one
should be using anything but operating supported packages (in this
case RPM, and assuming the package is available).


Which, not all of it is, at least not from any source I'm aware of.


Well this list should not be supporting any of the modules that are non 
postgresql anyway and I know all the postgresql packages are available 
in native format.





I think it is also important to make a distinction that it is not
a .Org distributed file, so if there is a problem we can point the
user in the right direction to get help. Which may or may not be on
this list.


Whether or not it's '.Org distributed' is irrelevant - I doubt you
could help with a win32 installation problem for example. What is
relevant, is the origin of the package, regardless of whether it came
from the PostgreSQL ftp site.


I don't understand your point. The origin is EnterpriseDB, what does 
that matter?


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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Page
On Sun, Jan 4, 2004 at 4:48 PM, Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which, not all of it is, at least not from any source I'm aware of.

 Well this list should not be supporting any of the modules that are non
 postgresql anyway and I know all the postgresql packages are available in
 native format.

pl/java? plDebugger plugin? Yeah, they're not supported here, but if
you want them, it doesn't seem unreasonable to use a package that has
them.

 I don't understand your point. The origin is EnterpriseDB, what does that
 matter?

Because the packages that are distributed on the PostgreSQL FTP site
are also of different origins (the Solaris packages are built by
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the Win32 by me (on the same hardware as the one-click
installers) and the RPMs by Devrim - and the ability of this list to
support them is no different than it is of supporting most of the
other packages that are out there.

My point is, that being on ftp.postgresql.org doesn't mean anything in
terms of our ability to support a given package.

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Joshua Drake
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:18:26 -0500
Eduardo Arévalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi I am trying to install the portgres of 64btis in centos 5.6 but at
 the next command ./postgresql-8.3.4-1-linux-x64.bin
 the results are as follows:

We don't distribute .bin files I would strongly suggest using the
rpm based packages for Centos.

Joshua D. Drake

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:18:26 -0500
 Eduardo Arévalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi I am trying to install the portgres of 64btis in centos 5.6 but at
 the next command ./postgresql-8.3.4-1-linux-x64.bin
 the results are as follows:

 We don't distribute .bin files I would strongly suggest using the
 rpm based packages for Centos.

Yes we do - and simply switching to the RPM distro is unlikely to
solve the problem as the OP is obviously not aware of the what the
problem is and will probably grab the latest version available.

Eduardo; the error you see occurs because the data directory you have
is not compatible with the PostgreSQL version you are trying to
install. Given the catalog version number the installer is reporting
that it's found, your existing data directory is from PostgreSQL 8.2.
You should therefore install the latest 8.2 RPM (or build from
source), as the one-click installer is not available for the 8.2
series.

Why you have a PG 8.2 data directory under /usr/local/postgresql_8.3
is another question entirely...

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Joshua Drake
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:12:08 +0100
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:18:26 -0500
  Eduardo Arévalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi I am trying to install the portgres of 64btis in centos 5.6 but
  at the next command ./postgresql-8.3.4-1-linux-x64.bin
  the results are as follows:
 
  We don't distribute .bin files I would strongly suggest using
  the rpm based packages for Centos.
 
 Yes we do - and simply switching to the RPM distro is unlikely to
 solve the problem as the OP is obviously not aware of the what the
 problem is and will probably grab the latest version available.

Where do we distribute .bin files?

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:12:08 +0100
 Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:18:26 -0500
  Eduardo Arévalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi I am trying to install the portgres of 64btis in centos 5.6 but
  at the next command ./postgresql-8.3.4-1-linux-x64.bin
  the results are as follows:
 
  We don't distribute .bin files I would strongly suggest using
  the rpm based packages for Centos.

 Yes we do - and simply switching to the RPM distro is unlikely to
 solve the problem as the OP is obviously not aware of the what the
 problem is and will probably grab the latest version available.

 Where do we distribute .bin files?

http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Joshua Drake
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:14:22 +0100
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes we do - and simply switching to the RPM distro is unlikely to
  solve the problem as the OP is obviously not aware of the what the
  problem is and will probably grab the latest version available.
 
  Where do we distribute .bin files?
 
 http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux


No that is a link to another vendors open source software. That is not
a .Org file. Note I am not arguing to remove the link but it is
certainly not software that is distributed by PostgreSQL.Org.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake
 


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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:18:26 -0500
 Eduardo Arévalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi I am trying to install the portgres of 64btis in centos 5.6 but at
 the next command ./postgresql-8.3.4-1-linux-x64.bin
 the results are as follows:

 We don't distribute .bin files I would strongly suggest using the
 rpm based packages for Centos.

I much prefer the PGDG RHEL5 rpms on Centos5.  IT's much easier to
update and they work very very well.

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux


 No that is a link to another vendors open source software. That is not
 a .Org file.

By the same token, neither is anything on the Yum repository (as
sponsored by Command Prompt), or Fink, or MacPorts, or FreeBSD Ports
or Debian/Ubuntu APT, or the SUSE download site...

So what's your point exactly? Do we only offer support for source,
Win32, Solaris and PGDG RPM builds downloaded form ftp.postgresql.org
here now?


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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Eduardo Arévalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now I am in the language I get the following screen:

...
 [620] zh_HK
 [621] zh_HK.utf8
 [622] zh_SG
 [623] zh_SG.utf8
 [624] zh_TW
 [625] zh_TW.euctw
 [626] zh_TW.utf8
 [627] zu_ZA
 [628] zu_ZA.iso88591
 [629] zu_ZA.utf8
 Please choose an option [1] :

 that option if I want to put the Spanish language

By the looks of it you are running the installer in text mode which I
don't believe I ever actually tried but one (or more) of those
629(!) locales it found on your system is presumably es_ES. Scroll
your terminal back up until you find it and enter it's number. Or,
just select the default option (1) which will setup the locale to
whatever initdb finds you are already running, which presumably is
Spanish.

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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Joshua Drake
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:00:03 +0100
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux
 
 
  No that is a link to another vendors open source software. That is
  not a .Org file.
 
 By the same token, neither is anything on the Yum repository (as
 sponsored by Command Prompt), or Fink, or MacPorts, or FreeBSD Ports
 or Debian/Ubuntu APT, or the SUSE download site...

Yes that would be correct.

 
 So what's your point exactly? Do we only offer support for source,
 Win32, Solaris and PGDG RPM builds downloaded form ftp.postgresql.org
 here now?
 

Easy Dave. I was simply trying to figure out where the .bin came from,
which in turn came with a recommendation which I stand by that no one
should be using anything but operating supported packages (in this
case RPM, and assuming the package is available). 

I think it is also important to make a distinction that it is not
a .Org distributed file, so if there is a problem we can point the
user in the right direction to get help. Which may or may not be on
this list.

Joshua D. Drake


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Re: [GENERAL] failed to install posgrest

2008-10-03 Thread Gurjeet Singh
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:18:26 -0500
  Eduardo Arévalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi I am trying to install the portgres of 64btis in centos 5.6 but at
  the next command ./postgresql-8.3.4-1-linux-x64.bin
  the results are as follows:
 
  We don't distribute .bin files I would strongly suggest using the
  rpm based packages for Centos.

 Yes we do - and simply switching to the RPM distro is unlikely to
 solve the problem as the OP is obviously not aware of the what the
 problem is and will probably grab the latest version available.

 Eduardo; the error you see occurs because the data directory you have
 is not compatible with the PostgreSQL version you are trying to
 install. Given the catalog version number the installer is reporting
 that it's found, your existing data directory is from PostgreSQL 8.2.
 You should therefore install the latest 8.2 RPM (or build from
 source), as the one-click installer is not available for the 8.2
 series.

 Why you have a PG 8.2 data directory under /usr/local/postgresql_8.3
 is another question entirely...


OP has data directory in /base/data, /usr/local/postgresql_8.3/data is the
default from the installer.
...
Data Directory [/usr/local/postgresql_8.3/data]: /base/data
...

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