Re: [Pharo-project] wrong network packages dependencies
Great!
This is really bad dependencies...
#Luc
2010/10/21 Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com
issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3133
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Pavel Krivanek
pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This list of dependencies makes Network package dependent on Morphic
and other high-level packages.
#('TextMessageLink emphasizeScanner: calls: textColor: '
'HTTPSocket class httpJpeg: calls: nextImage '
'HTTPSocket class httpShowPage: calls: openLabel: '
'HTTPSocket class httpShowChunk: calls: openLabel: '
'HTTPSocket class md5Hash: calls: hashMessage: md5HashMessage: '
'HTTPSocket class httpGetDocument:args:accept:request: calls: inspect '
'HTTPSocket class httpGif: calls: nextImage '
'SocketStream class finger: calls: getLine '
'MIMEDocument class guessTypeFromName: calls:
forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault: '
'POP3Client class example calls: inspect ' 'Password passwordFor:
calls: typeWithDefault moniker '
'UUIDGenerator makeSeedFromSound calls: randomBitsFromSoundInput: '
'MailMessage viewBody calls: openLabel: ' 'MailMessage selfTest calls:
addressesIn: '
'MailMessage viewImageInBody calls: withForm: openInWorld drawingClass '
'MailtoUrl composeText calls: userName '
'MailtoUrl activate calls: sendMessage: '
'FtpUrl retrieveContents calls: server servers isTypeFTP server:
directory: '
'URI openStream:forceNew:encoding: calls:
openStream:mode:forceNew:encoding: '
'URI mimeType calls: forExtension: '
'POP3Client apopLogin calls: hashMessage: '
'SMTPClient mailFrom: calls: addressesIn: ')
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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo problem with Windows 7
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexan...@bergel.euwrote: This is really strange. We've tried for a while to save a rep on a local repository, on squeaksource, no success... Anyone experienced this already? Yep, several times if you have an antivirus analizing .changes all the time ;) From the Pharo FAQ Pharo on Windows is terribly slow. What's wrong? If you have an antivirus program like nod-32 running, exclude the directory where you have your Pharo image. With Seaside/Aida, another known problem (unrelated to Pharo) is that Firefox on Windows can be very slow if using IPv6. Use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost. For details see this mailing list discussionhttp://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside/2010-March/023005.html . HTH mariano Cheers, Alexandre On 21 Oct 2010, at 17:30, Christian Eduardo Palomares Peralta wrote: Hi everyone I'm new on Pharo, i downloaded pharo for Windows ( http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download), everything works fine until i try to save a package in the Monticello Browser, the Snapshotting Methods takes age. Several minutes pass and nothing is saved. Selecting a local repository does not help neither in case squeaksource would be down. I use the VM 4.0.2. I tried the Pharo1.1 one click image, the Windows Installer, and the Seaside One click image. Same result. When I press Alt-. the debugger always open on the retryWithGC: in the method: MultiByteFileStreamopen: fileName forWrite: writeMode Open the file with the given name. If writeMode is true, allow writing, otherwise open the file in read-only mode. Changed to do a GC and retry before failing ar 3/21/98 17:25 | f | f := fileName asVmPathName. fileID := StandardFileStream retryWithGC:[self primOpen: f writable: writeMode] until:[:id| id notNil] forFileNamed: fileName. I disabled my antivirus, but the problem persist Does anyone can help me with this problem? Thxs -- Christian Eduardo Palomares Peralta (ShinjiDev) - http://learningwebdev.blogspot.com Administrador del Grupo Python-Perú ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de writes: Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: I haven't had much trouble with it. You can look in the inbox for Migrate (for how I load it) and the DolphinCompatibility package for things that I have added to the ODBC support. Are there any usage examples for ODBC and Pharo or is it go out and find out yourself? And another maybe stupid question has anyone used it for accessing .mdb databases from MS-Access? Ok i'm probabla currently a bit confused. AFAIKT the Pharo I've running here is 32-bit. My machine however is a 64-bit System, so to use the unixodbc I probably would need the 32-bit version of the unixodbc driver. Is that correct? So do I have to build the unixodbc stuff myself? on a Debian 64-bit box? Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de writes: Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: I haven't had much trouble with it. You can look in the inbox for Migrate (for how I load it) and the DolphinCompatibility package for things that I have added to the ODBC support. Are there any usage examples for ODBC and Pharo or is it go out and find out yourself? And another maybe stupid question has anyone used it for accessing .mdb databases from MS-Access? Ok i'm probabla currently a bit confused. AFAIKT the Pharo I've running here is 32-bit. My machine however is a 64-bit System, so to use the unixodbc I probably would need the 32-bit version of the unixodbc driver. Is that correct? Yes. Exactly. To compile ODBC you may want to try something like we did in SqueakDBX: http://www.squeakdbx.org/SqueakDBX%20in%2064%20bits Orcheck if there is a binary for 32 bits. So do I have to build the unixodbc stuff myself? on a Debian 64-bit box? Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de writes: Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: I haven't had much trouble with it. You can look in the inbox for Migrate (for how I load it) and the DolphinCompatibility package for things that I have added to the ODBC support. Are there any usage examples for ODBC and Pharo or is it go out and find out yourself? And another maybe stupid question has anyone used it for accessing .mdb databases from MS-Access? Ok i'm probabla currently a bit confused. AFAIKT the Pharo I've running here is 32-bit. My machine however is a 64-bit System, so to use the unixodbc I probably would need the 32-bit version of the unixodbc driver. Is that correct? Yes. Exactly. To compile ODBC you may want to try something like we did in SqueakDBX: http://www.squeakdbx.org/SqueakDBX%20in%2064%20bits Thanks my confusion has not last that long. I just was puzzling why isql does connect but Pharo won't. Sure the reason is clear, but it has catched me. Fine, I'm trying to get unixodbc compiled an installed on my 64 bit box. I just wonder has anyone build a 64-bit Pharo? Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] What is a primitive method?
THanks Eliot for the explanation. SoThe compiler checks and for these kind of special quick methods it creates a CompiledMethod that has in its header, a primitive value ? So...if I would be able to put a self halt (but I cannot do it becaue otherwise it won't be quick anymore) in NumberisNumber, the debugger would never stop there? Interesting! Thanks Oscar for the question, it make me learn. Mariano 2010/10/22 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com Hi Oscar, see Object classwhatIsAPrimitive. Further, most of the primitive methods you're seeing are methods that answer self, nil, true false or an inst var. See the difference between these: SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m isQuick] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not]] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not and: [(#(117 120) includes: m primitive) not]]] HTH Eliot On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Oscar E A Callau oalva...@dcc.uchile.clwrote: Hi all, I have a (basic) question: What is a primitive method? In pharo 1.1.1, we have CompiledMethodprimitive that basically return: 0 if the method is not a primitive method 0 otherwise But if you execute this on i.e. NumberisNumber or Morph#model compiled methods you get that these two are primitive methods. Are they primitive methods? Other (related) question is: When I executed the expression: SystemNavigation default allPrimitiveMethods , I get a OrderedCollection with 5581 elements. Are all those methods, primitive methods? Thanks in advance ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de writes: Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: I haven't had much trouble with it. You can look in the inbox for Migrate (for how I load it) and the DolphinCompatibility package for things that I have added to the ODBC support. Are there any usage examples for ODBC and Pharo or is it go out and find out yourself? And another maybe stupid question has anyone used it for accessing .mdb databases from MS-Access? Ok i'm probabla currently a bit confused. AFAIKT the Pharo I've running here is 32-bit. My machine however is a 64-bit System, so to use the unixodbc I probably would need the 32-bit version of the unixodbc driver. Is that correct? Yes. Exactly. To compile ODBC you may want to try something like we did in SqueakDBX: http://www.squeakdbx.org/SqueakDBX%20in%2064%20bits Thanks my confusion has not last that long. I just was puzzling why isql does connect but Pharo won't. Sure the reason is clear, but it has catched me. Fine, I'm trying to get unixodbc compiled an installed on my 64 bit box. I just wonder has anyone build a 64-bit Pharo? More or less. Because you need: a 64 bits VM, and a 64 bits image as much as I understand. In addition, there are certain bugs in FFI about using it in 64 bits. Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
On 22.10.2010, at 10:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de writes: Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: I haven't had much trouble with it. You can look in the inbox for Migrate (for how I load it) and the DolphinCompatibility package for things that I have added to the ODBC support. Are there any usage examples for ODBC and Pharo or is it go out and find out yourself? And another maybe stupid question has anyone used it for accessing .mdb databases from MS-Access? Ok i'm probabla currently a bit confused. AFAIKT the Pharo I've running here is 32-bit. My machine however is a 64-bit System, so to use the unixodbc I probably would need the 32-bit version of the unixodbc driver. Is that correct? Yes. Exactly. To compile ODBC you may want to try something like we did in SqueakDBX: http://www.squeakdbx.org/SqueakDBX%20in%2064%20bits Thanks my confusion has not last that long. I just was puzzling why isql does connect but Pharo won't. Sure the reason is clear, but it has catched me. Fine, I'm trying to get unixodbc compiled an installed on my 64 bit box. I just wonder has anyone build a 64-bit Pharo? More or less. Because you need: a 64 bits VM, and a 64 bits image as much as I understand. In addition, there are certain bugs in FFI about using it in 64 bits. You don't need a 64 bit image. If you have a 64 bit operating system than you can only execute 64 bit executables. In linux there are 32 bit compatibility libraries. The offer a 32 bit interface and mediate this to 64 bit. So you can run a 32 bit vm with compat libraries or native 64 bit vm. The same goes for code that you want to link to the vm. It needs to fit. What the vm internally uses for its address space does not depend on this. I think that is confusing for a lot of people that you can have a 64 bit vm with a 32 bit image. But does anyone know what is the state of 64 bit vm executables? Norbert___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name writes: You don't need a 64 bit image. If you have a 64 bit operating system than you can only execute 64 bit executables. In linux there are 32 bit compatibility libraries. The offer a 32 bit interface and mediate this to 64 bit. So you can run a 32 bit vm with compat libraries or native 64 bit vm. The same goes for code that you want to link to the vm, Ok, but it means to use Pharo 32 -bit with unixodbc I better have the 32-bit files of unixodbc installed. I'm having that currently but, I still can not connect to Postgres. I guess I will have to delve into this quite a bit deeper. Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name writes: You don't need a 64 bit image. If you have a 64 bit operating system than you can only execute 64 bit executables. In linux there are 32 bit compatibility libraries. The offer a 32 bit interface and mediate this to 64 bit. So you can run a 32 bit vm with compat libraries or native 64 bit vm. The same goes for code that you want to link to the vm, Ok, but it means to use Pharo 32 -bit with unixodbc I better have the 32-bit files of unixodbc installed. I'm having that currently but, I still can not connect to Postgres. Why not trying SqueakDBX or the native postgres driver ? I guess I will have to delve into this quite a bit deeper. Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] ObjectScanner
ObjectScanner does not have any user and I was wondering what was its exact purpose? Apparently it is related to uniclasses and there are still some left over. It is not available in CUIS. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Looking for SmartRefStream tests
I thought that there were some tests that covers SmartRefStream. Does anybody have some? because it would be good to have some? Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] About Project
Hi guys It would be good to take some decisions about Project. It seems that we need a place to host some information about the current graphical space but we should clean it. I was checking CUIS and Cuis only have 6 class side methods. S. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Objectat:modify:???
I would like to deprecate the following method since nobody use it. What do you think? Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] about Objectstep
Hi guys ObjectstepIn: aWindow ^ self step but step is not defined in Object. I have the i ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] About Object and Model
Hi guys I'm reading Object and I have the impression that some methods are in Object while there should be on Model. when: anEventSelector send: aMessageSelector to: anObject exclusive: aValueHolder okToClose taskbarIcon taskbarLabel May be some of these methods should grouped in traits, then applied to Model. Then if the user wants something else than Model to play the game he can simply apply a trait. I think that this hierarchical decomposition is often forcing us to stack methods in the wrong place I think that the composition is way stronger and much more flexible than hierarchical ordering. tell me what you think. I would like to have a nice Object class. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] some patterns I would like to **kill**
Hi I was reading Pluggable and friends I identified some patterns. The respondsTo plague Examples: color := self fillStyle asColor. (self labelMorph respondsTo: #enabled:) ifTrue: [self labelMorph enabled: self enabled]. (self labelMorph respondsTo: #interactionState:) ifTrue: [self labelMorph interactionState: self interactionState] (self labelMorph respondsTo: #enabled:) ifTrue: [ self labelMorph enabled: aBoolean]. (self enabled not and: [self label isMorph and: [(self label respondsTo: #enabled:) not]]) by construction a labelObject should be a morph and it should answer enabled: and the case where this is not the case should be fixed. Using submorphs to avoid one single inst var makes code quite ugly to read: labelMorph Answer the actual label morph. self hasSubmorphs ifFalse: [^nil]. self firstSubmorph hasSubmorphs ifFalse: [^nil]. ^self firstSubmorph firstSubmorph ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for SmartRefStream tests
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.frwrote: I thought that there were some tests that covers SmartRefStream. Does anybody have some? because it would be good to have some? No I didnt. I saw just ReferenceStream example2 DataStream example DataStream exampleWithPictures Iremember you also commited something in PharoTaskForces, but I cannot see them now :( Someone should do something like what I did with ImageSegment. Write tests while learning it. Cheers Mariano Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Pharo article in linuxMag fr
Just to say that recently, there were/are 2 articles about Pharo in GNU Linux Magazine (http://www.gnulinuxmag.com/), a french mag. One was publish in the n130, about a presentation of Pharo. One will be published in one week in the n132, about Gofer. Cheers, --- Jannik Laval ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectScanner
Seems to be used by SmartRefStream, but I don't know why. But it is easy to test it. This works: FileStream forceNewFileNamed: 'test' do: [ :stream | stream fileOutClass: nil andObject: 'something'. ]. (FileStream oldFileNamed: 'test') fileInObjectAndCode. Rename ObjectScanner, and you will get a compiler error. This is because it is being written in: SmartRefStream appendClassDefns The ObjectScanner class comment says: An instance of this class is the compiler's context for filing in a SmartRefStream containing instance-specific classes. When the old name of a new object's class conflicts with an existing class name, install a class var in me. It has the old name but points at the new class. The compiler uses it when compiling the code in the fileIn. Fill the SmartRefStream's renamed class dictionary. An object fileout: !ObjectScanner new initialize! allow me to take control with scanFrom: Player subclass: Player23 instanceVariableNames: 'foo' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: nil category: 'Instance Specific'! I prescan this and (self rename: #Player23 toBe: #Player30) !Player23 methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 3/9/98 18:58'!actually sent to Player30 foo ^ foo! ! !self smartRefStream!binary representation of the objects! On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.frwrote: ObjectScanner does not have any user and I was wondering what was its exact purpose? Apparently it is related to uniclasses and there are still some left over. It is not available in CUIS. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic application to production questions
Yes we need to make progress on that level please let us know what you will find and build! On Oct 22, 2010, at 12:29 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: I need to disable the world menu too On 2010-10-21 19:20:48 -0300, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com said: Hi, Finally I managed to get one application made with morphic. I developed the app inside a StandardWindow, and that's ok, but now I want to move it to production, so I need to do some tasks, some of them easy to solve, and some of them not (at least for me). This is what I think is needed: 1) remove all morphs (this is easy, already done) 2) add morphs in world instead StandardWindow (easy too, and already done). 3) disable control+click, cmd+., etc. (I don't know how to do this) 4) disable morph drags (my morphs, placed inside the world, can be moved, I don't want that) 5) change the behavior of quit when pressing close window (red button) 6) disable debugger on errors ...and I don't know if there are other things. Can you help me with points 3-6? Do you know other tasks needed? Thanks, Esteban ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectScanner
On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Seems to be used by SmartRefStream, but I don't know why. But it is easy to test it. This works: FileStream forceNewFileNamed: 'test' do: [ :stream | stream fileOutClass: nil andObject: 'something'. ]. (FileStream oldFileNamed: 'test') fileInObjectAndCode. Rename ObjectScanner, and you will get a compiler error. This is because it is being written in: SmartRefStream appendClassDefns I removed that in my cleans The ObjectScanner class comment says: An instance of this class is the compiler's context for filing in a SmartRefStream containing instance-specific classes. When the old name of a new object's class conflicts with an existing class name, install a class var in me. It has the old name but points at the new class. The compiler uses it when compiling the code in the fileIn. Fill the SmartRefStream's renamed class dictionary. An object fileout: !ObjectScanner new initialize! allow me to take control with scanFrom: Player subclass: Player23 instanceVariableNames: 'foo' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: nil category: 'Instance Specific'! I prescan this and (self rename: #Player23 toBe: #Player30) !Player23 methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 3/9/98 18:58'!actually sent to Player30 foo ^ foo! ! !self smartRefStream!binary representation of the objects! On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: ObjectScanner does not have any user and I was wondering what was its exact purpose? Apparently it is related to uniclasses and there are still some left over. It is not available in CUIS. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectScanner
ObjectScanner.1.cs Description: Binary data Seems to be used by SmartRefStream, but I don't know why. But it is easy to test it. This works: FileStream forceNewFileNamed: 'test' do: [ :stream | stream fileOutClass: nil andObject: 'something'. ]. (FileStream oldFileNamed: 'test') fileInObjectAndCode. Rename ObjectScanner, and you will get a compiler error. This is because it is being written in: SmartRefStream appendClassDefns The ObjectScanner class comment says: An instance of this class is the compiler's context for filing in a SmartRefStream containing instance-specific classes. When the old name of a new object's class conflicts with an existing class name, install a class var in me. It has the old name but points at the new class. The compiler uses it when compiling the code in the fileIn. Fill the SmartRefStream's renamed class dictionary. An object fileout: !ObjectScanner new initialize! allow me to take control with scanFrom: Player subclass: Player23 instanceVariableNames: 'foo' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: nil category: 'Instance Specific'! I prescan this and (self rename: #Player23 toBe: #Player30) !Player23 methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 3/9/98 18:58'!actually sent to Player30 foo ^ foo! ! !self smartRefStream!binary representation of the objects! On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: ObjectScanner does not have any user and I was wondering what was its exact purpose? Apparently it is related to uniclasses and there are still some left over. It is not available in CUIS. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Smells looking at collections
Hi, I was looking at collection packages and I found that the class Association inherits from Magnitude. It is really strange for me because inheritance represent a is-a relation. So I looked that the documentation of each of these classes: *Association:* I represent a pair of associated objects--a key and a value. My instances can serve as entries in a dictionary. *Magnitude:* I'm the abstract class Magnitude that provides common protocol for objects that have the ability to be compared along a linear dimension, such as dates or times. Subclasses of Magnitude include Date, ArithmeticValue, and Time, as well as Character and LookupKey. Based on this, I think this relation is conceptually WRONG. If the idea is to reuse code then composition should be used instead of inheritance. What do you think? Saludos! Nico. blog: nicopaez.wordpress.com ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectScanner
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3134 On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Seems to be used by SmartRefStream, but I don't know why. But it is easy to test it. This works: FileStream forceNewFileNamed: 'test' do: [ :stream | stream fileOutClass: nil andObject: 'something'. ]. (FileStream oldFileNamed: 'test') fileInObjectAndCode. Rename ObjectScanner, and you will get a compiler error. This is because it is being written in: SmartRefStream appendClassDefns The ObjectScanner class comment says: An instance of this class is the compiler's context for filing in a SmartRefStream containing instance-specific classes. When the old name of a new object's class conflicts with an existing class name, install a class var in me. It has the old name but points at the new class. The compiler uses it when compiling the code in the fileIn. Fill the SmartRefStream's renamed class dictionary. An object fileout: !ObjectScanner new initialize! allow me to take control with scanFrom: Player subclass: Player23 instanceVariableNames: 'foo' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: nil category: 'Instance Specific'! I prescan this and (self rename: #Player23 toBe: #Player30) !Player23 methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 3/9/98 18:58'!actually sent to Player30 foo ^ foo! ! !self smartRefStream!binary representation of the objects! On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: ObjectScanner does not have any user and I was wondering what was its exact purpose? Apparently it is related to uniclasses and there are still some left over. It is not available in CUIS. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Latest OB, category autocompletion does always a lowercase
Hi. In the latest OB code, when I put add category to a method, and I start to type...it automatically finds several categories, but it always put lowercase to the name. For example, I have Package called *MyApp and I want to create a method category for thatwhen I type, the option showed is *myapp Would be great if this is case sensitive. Cheers Mariano ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Monticello Browser does not answer to key position
Pharo core version: 12199 Steps to reproduce: 1. Open Monticello browse 2. Select a package 3. Type a letter, for example, 'm' You will see that the selection doesnt move to the next package starting with m. It would be cool to have the same behavior than when browsing methods or classes. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3135 mariano ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Latest OB code, running single test erases the colors of the rest
Hi. I I have a TestCase, and with cmd + t, I run a particular test method, all the little small bolls from the other test methods are lost and initialized again with gray :( they would be maintained. thanks mariano ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Explicit ordering of submorphs
Currently, the submorph order isn't explicit. Which means that adding several submorphs in a certain order, is no guarantee that they will appear in the desired order when laid out using a LayoutPolicy. Because the #morphicLayoutNumber is used. I've propose the following: 1. Add Morphprecedence 2. Add MorphorderedSubmorphs 3. Modify the existing LayoutPolicies to use orderedSubmorphs instead of submorphsDo: ISSUE 3136. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Explicit ordering of submorphs
In order to provide compatibility with the existing Morphs, i've propose that the if any submorphs does not use #precedence, the behavior defaults to #submorphs. MorphorderedSubmorphs | usePrecedence morphs | usePrecedence := submorphs anySatisfy:[:each| each precedence = 0 ]. usePrecedence not ifTrue:[ ^ submorphs ]. morphs := submorphs select: #visible. morphs sort: [:a :b| a precedence = b precedence ]. ^ morphs On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: Currently, the submorph order isn't explicit. Which means that adding several submorphs in a certain order, is no guarantee that they will appear in the desired order when laid out using a LayoutPolicy. Because the #morphicLayoutNumber is used. I've propose the following: 1. Add Morphprecedence 2. Add MorphorderedSubmorphs 3. Modify the existing LayoutPolicies to use orderedSubmorphs instead of submorphsDo: ISSUE 3136. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Latest OB, category autocompletion does always a lowercase
Protocols are lowercase by convention, that's why it suggests only lowercase variants. You can still manually type something uppercase of course. Lukas On Friday, October 22, 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. In the latest OB code, when I put add category to a method, and I start to type...it automatically finds several categories, but it always put lowercase to the name. For example, I have Package called *MyApp and I want to create a method category for thatwhen I type, the option showed is *myapp Would be great if this is case sensitive. Cheers Mariano -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Latest OB, category autocompletion does always a lowercase
Protocols are lowercase by convention, that's why it suggests only lowercase variants. You can still manually type something uppercase of course. Lukas On Friday, October 22, 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. In the latest OB code, when I put add category to a method, and I start to type...it automatically finds several categories, but it always put lowercase to the name. For example, I have Package called *MyApp and I want to create a method category for thatwhen I type, the option showed is *myapp Would be great if this is case sensitive. Cheers Mariano -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Explicit ordering of submorphs
To evidence this problem: red := Morph new. red color: Color red. yellow := Morph new. yellow color: Color yellow. green := Morph new. green color: Color green. semaphore := Morph new. semaphore changeTableLayout ; addMorph: red ; addMorph: yellow ; addMorph: green. semaphore openInWorld. You see that the semaphore is not correctly laid out. Of course you could add them in inverse order, or play with the #morphicLayerNumberbut i think that this ordering should be explicit. On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: In order to provide compatibility with the existing Morphs, i've propose that the if any submorphs does not use #precedence, the behavior defaults to #submorphs. MorphorderedSubmorphs | usePrecedence morphs | usePrecedence := submorphs anySatisfy:[:each| each precedence = 0 ]. usePrecedence not ifTrue:[ ^ submorphs ]. morphs := submorphs select: #visible. morphs sort: [:a :b| a precedence = b precedence ]. ^ morphs On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: Currently, the submorph order isn't explicit. Which means that adding several submorphs in a certain order, is no guarantee that they will appear in the desired order when laid out using a LayoutPolicy. Because the #morphicLayoutNumber is used. I've propose the following: 1. Add Morphprecedence 2. Add MorphorderedSubmorphs 3. Modify the existing LayoutPolicies to use orderedSubmorphs instead of submorphsDo: ISSUE 3136. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Latest OB, category autocompletion does always a lowercase
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Protocols are lowercase by convention, But is this still true for packages extensions?? I always keep case sensitive for *MyPackage (I think this is because before monticello have problems with this) Maybe just a little change that for those categories with * it doesn't apply the lowercase would be nice. that's why it suggests only lowercase variants. You can still manually type something uppercase of course. yes, sure. Lukas On Friday, October 22, 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. In the latest OB code, when I put add category to a method, and I start to type...it automatically finds several categories, but it always put lowercase to the name. For example, I have Package called *MyApp and I want to create a method category for thatwhen I type, the option showed is *myapp Would be great if this is case sensitive. Cheers Mariano -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Smells looking at collections
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Nicolás Paez wrote: Hi, I was looking at collection packages and I found that the class Association inherits from Magnitude. It is really strange for me because inheritance represent a is-a relation. So I looked that the documentation of each of these classes: *Association:* I represent a pair of associated objects--a key and a value. My instances can serve as entries in a dictionary. *Magnitude:* I'm the abstract class Magnitude that provides common protocol for objects that have the ability to be compared along a linear dimension, such as dates or times. Subclasses of Magnitude include Date, ArithmeticValue, and Time, as well as Character and LookupKey. Based on this, I think this relation is conceptually WRONG. If the idea is to reuse code then composition should be used instead of inheritance. What do you think? This was the original hierarchy: Magnitude - LookupKey - Association. Someone removed LookupKey from the chain. This was LookupKey's comment: I represent a key for looking up entries in a data structure. Subclasses of me, such as Association, typically represent dictionary entries. Levente Saludos! Nico. blog: nicopaez.wordpress.com ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Latest OB, category autocompletion does always a lowercase
On Friday, October 22, 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Protocols are lowercase by convention, But is this still true for packages extensions?? I always keep case sensitive for *MyPackage (I think this is because before monticello have problems with this) PackageInfo always matched category names case-sensitive and protocols case-insensitive. Maybe just a little change that for those categories with * it doesn't apply the lowercase would be nice. The way it currently works is intentional. It helps people to adhere to the convention and reduces future inconsistencies. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo article in linuxMag fr
Great ! 2010/10/22 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Just to say that recently, there were/are 2 articles about Pharo in GNU Linux Magazine (http://www.gnulinuxmag.com/), a french mag. One was publish in the n130, about a presentation of Pharo. One will be published in one week in the n132, about Gofer. Cheers, --- Jannik Laval ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Smells looking at collections
Maybe I am so naive, but what are the advantages of such Inheritance? The only thing I see is that in all your code of Association you can do self and access to all the behavior of Magnitude. But it is not that difficult to use composition, and write self aMagnitude replace aMagnitude for whatever name you want. Cheers mariano 2010/10/22 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Nicolás Paez wrote: Hi, I was looking at collection packages and I found that the class Association inherits from Magnitude. It is really strange for me because inheritance represent a is-a relation. So I looked that the documentation of each of these classes: *Association:* I represent a pair of associated objects--a key and a value. My instances can serve as entries in a dictionary. *Magnitude:* I'm the abstract class Magnitude that provides common protocol for objects that have the ability to be compared along a linear dimension, such as dates or times. Subclasses of Magnitude include Date, ArithmeticValue, and Time, as well as Character and LookupKey. Based on this, I think this relation is conceptually WRONG. If the idea is to reuse code then composition should be used instead of inheritance. What do you think? This was the original hierarchy: Magnitude - LookupKey - Association. Someone removed LookupKey from the chain. This was LookupKey's comment: I represent a key for looking up entries in a data structure. Subclasses of me, such as Association, typically represent dictionary entries. Levente Saludos! Nico. blog: nicopaez.wordpress.com ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo article in linuxMag fr
Yes, very interesting. Here at Argentina we have an annual event about free software, this year schedule is: http://www.jornadasregionales.org/jrsl2010v2/schedule/index Could be interesting to present Pharo/Seaside/Pier here, may be next year. 2010/10/22 Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com: Great ! 2010/10/22 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Just to say that recently, there were/are 2 articles about Pharo in GNU Linux Magazine (http://www.gnulinuxmag.com/), a french mag. One was publish in the n130, about a presentation of Pharo. One will be published in one week in the n132, about Gofer. Cheers, --- Jannik Laval ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] What is a primitive method?
2010/10/22 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com THanks Eliot for the explanation. SoThe compiler checks and for these kind of special quick methods it creates a CompiledMethod that has in its header, a primitive value ? A number, yes. The number answered by CompiledMethodprimitive. So...if I would be able to put a self halt (but I cannot do it becaue otherwise it won't be quick anymore) in NumberisNumber, the debugger would never stop there? The way to put a break-point around a primitive is to rewrite it as a wrapper method around the actual primitive, e.g. SmallInteger+ aNumber primitive: 1 ^super + aNumber = SmallIntegerprimitivePlus: aNumber primitive: 1 ^super + aNumber SmallInteger+ aNumber FirstTime == nil ifTrue: [FirstTime := false. self halt]. ^self primitivePlus: aNumber you absolutely need the FirstTime approach (where FirstTie is some global you define for the purpose) to cause the halt to fire once if you're trying to break-point a method that is in wide-spread use. Otherwise the system will die a recursive death ;) best Eliot Interesting! Thanks Oscar for the question, it make me learn. Mariano 2010/10/22 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com Hi Oscar, see Object classwhatIsAPrimitive. Further, most of the primitive methods you're seeing are methods that answer self, nil, true false or an inst var. See the difference between these: SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m isQuick] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not]] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not and: [(#(117 120) includes: m primitive) not]]] HTH Eliot On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Oscar E A Callau oalva...@dcc.uchile.cl wrote: Hi all, I have a (basic) question: What is a primitive method? In pharo 1.1.1, we have CompiledMethodprimitive that basically return: 0 if the method is not a primitive method 0 otherwise But if you execute this on i.e. NumberisNumber or Morph#model compiled methods you get that these two are primitive methods. Are they primitive methods? Other (related) question is: When I executed the expression: SystemNavigation default allPrimitiveMethods , I get a OrderedCollection with 5581 elements. Are all those methods, primitive methods? Thanks in advance ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] What is a primitive method?
2010/10/22 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com 2010/10/22 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com THanks Eliot for the explanation. SoThe compiler checks and for these kind of special quick methods it creates a CompiledMethod that has in its header, a primitive value ? A number, yes. The number answered by CompiledMethodprimitive. Ok...thanks Eliot. So...if I would be able to put a self halt (but I cannot do it becaue otherwise it won't be quick anymore) in NumberisNumber, the debugger would never stop there? The way to put a break-point around a primitive is to rewrite it as a wrapper method around the actual primitive, e.g. SmallInteger+ aNumber primitive: 1 ^super + aNumber = SmallIntegerprimitivePlus: aNumber primitive: 1 ^super + aNumber SmallInteger+ aNumber FirstTime == nil ifTrue: [FirstTime := false. self halt]. ^self primitivePlus: aNumber Ahhh that's true :) I forget about that...once I did exactly this for FFI calls. you absolutely need the FirstTime approach (where FirstTie is some global you define for the purpose) to cause the halt to fire once if you're trying to break-point a method that is in wide-spread use. Otherwise the system will die a recursive death ;) I guess we can also use self haltOnce ? which implementations does exactly that you suggested :) Thanks! mariano best Eliot Interesting! Thanks Oscar for the question, it make me learn. Mariano 2010/10/22 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com Hi Oscar, see Object classwhatIsAPrimitive. Further, most of the primitive methods you're seeing are methods that answer self, nil, true false or an inst var. See the difference between these: SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m isQuick] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not]] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not and: [(#(117 120) includes: m primitive) not]]] HTH Eliot On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Oscar E A Callau oalva...@dcc.uchile.cl wrote: Hi all, I have a (basic) question: What is a primitive method? In pharo 1.1.1, we have CompiledMethodprimitive that basically return: 0 if the method is not a primitive method 0 otherwise But if you execute this on i.e. NumberisNumber or Morph#model compiled methods you get that these two are primitive methods. Are they primitive methods? Other (related) question is: When I executed the expression: SystemNavigation default allPrimitiveMethods , I get a OrderedCollection with 5581 elements. Are all those methods, primitive methods? Thanks in advance ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] some patterns I would like to **kill**
Stef, #respondsTo: - no argument. More defensive programming (aka masked bugs). Tests like this have their place, but are over-used in Squeak. Using #submorphs *might* be easier to defend. Morphs were designed to be usable in large numbers, and one might argue (playing Devil's Advocate here) that lookups are cheaper than the additional gc load. An instance variable could also cache stale information. Of course, for something that is accessed frequently, an instance variable avoids the lookup and I agree that it is cleaner and easier to read. Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of stephane ducasse [stephane.duca...@free.fr] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:47 PM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] some patterns I would like to **kill** Hi I was reading Pluggable and friends I identified some patterns. The respondsTo plague Examples: color := self fillStyle asColor. (self labelMorph respondsTo: #enabled:) ifTrue: [self labelMorph enabled: self enabled]. (self labelMorph respondsTo: #interactionState:) ifTrue: [self labelMorph interactionState: self interactionState] (self labelMorph respondsTo: #enabled:) ifTrue: [ self labelMorph enabled: aBoolean]. (self enabled not and: [self label isMorph and: [(self label respondsTo: #enabled:) not]]) by construction a labelObject should be a morph and it should answer enabled: and the case where this is not the case should be fixed. Using submorphs to avoid one single inst var makes code quite ugly to read: labelMorph Answer the actual label morph. self hasSubmorphs ifFalse: [^nil]. self firstSubmorph hasSubmorphs ifFalse: [^nil]. ^self firstSubmorph firstSubmorph ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
