Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Again: when I have a method foo self sendMessage: myMessage with: text. self sendSecondMessage: myMessage. B) In Pharo (with OB): I can only check the senders/implementors of #foo which is limiting and makes it hard to search for s/i of the other messages sent from within the method body. = So I'm limited with Pharo(OB) compared to Standard browser in Core. In OB you select (in the list or in the source code) whatever you want to browse/references/implementors/senders of. There are no additional pop-ups or questions. And please Torsten could you *finally* fix your e-mail client/account? You are the only one in the whole Smalltalk world that constantly messes up the mail threading. +1 :) Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
with this little change we can execute simply run in the following line just by having the mouse on the line and pressing doit even if there are comments around self run We should stop to turn around the system all the system but fix it to make us more productive. ParagraphEditor-evaluateSelection.st Description: Binary data ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
On Jul 6, 2010, at 1:37 16PM, stephane ducasse wrote: with this little change we can execute simply run in the following line just by having the mouse on the line and pressing doit even if there are comments around self run We should stop to turn around the system all the system but fix it to make us more productive. ParagraphEditor-evaluateSelection.st Personally, being used to VisualWorks, I always get bitten by having to select the entire selector for implementors/senders... :) Cheers, Henry ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
one step at a time :) first the complete line Stef On Jul 6, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: On Jul 6, 2010, at 1:37 16PM, stephane ducasse wrote: with this little change we can execute simply run in the following line just by having the mouse on the line and pressing doit even if there are comments around self run We should stop to turn around the system all the system but fix it to make us more productive. ParagraphEditor-evaluateSelection.st Personally, being used to VisualWorks, I always get bitten by having to select the entire selector for implementors/senders... :) Cheers, Henry ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
Henry wrote: Personally, being used to VisualWorks, I always get bitten by having to select the entire selector for implementors/senders... :) +1 Another thing that is related to the above and to the different browsers: In Core: When I select a method I can choose Senders of... and Implementors of... to either search for senders/implementors of the selected method AND the messages sent into the selected method. In Pharo: with OB I can just do senders and implementors which looks for the senders/implementors of the selected method One is NOT able to search for senders/implementors of the messages sent within the selected method. Here I have to select the entire selector which is time consuming as described above. So Pharo with OB is (compared to core) really a step backwards here. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
On Jul 6, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: Henry wrote: Personally, being used to VisualWorks, I always get bitten by having to select the entire selector for implementors/senders... :) +1 enter a bug entry to describe what should be done. Another thing that is related to the above and to the different browsers: In Core: When I select a method I can choose Senders of... and Implementors of... to either search for senders/implementors of the selected method AND the messages sent into the selected method. In Pharo: with OB I can just do senders and implementors which looks for the senders/implementors of the selected method One is NOT able to search for senders/implementors of the messages sent within the selected method. Here I have to select the entire selector which is time consuming as described above. enter a bug entry. So Pharo with OB is (compared to core) really a step backwards here. I imagine that the enh I did also to get Cmd-M on class name browsing the class and Cmd-B on selectors do an implementors should also be pushed in OB. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
Another thing that is related to the above and to the different browsers: In Core: When I select a method I can choose Senders of... and Implementors of... to either search for senders/implementors of the selected method AND the messages sent into the selected method. In Pharo: with OB I can just do senders and implementors which looks for the senders/implementors of the selected method One is NOT able to search for senders/implementors of the messages sent within the selected method. Here I have to select the entire selector which is time consuming as described above. enter a bug entry. This was removed on request of Stef and I completely agree on this: for me it is time consuming to be forced to search for the selector in a sorted list when the selector is written/selected right in front of me. So Pharo with OB is (compared to core) really a step backwards here. I imagine that the enh I did also to get Cmd-M on class name browsing the class and Cmd-B on selectors do an implementors should also be pushed in OB. The Cmd-B was always part of OB, I've done the same for Cmd-M. Also I updated the edit pane menu to match the one of the standard browser. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
cool On Jul 6, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: Another thing that is related to the above and to the different browsers: In Core: When I select a method I can choose Senders of... and Implementors of... to either search for senders/implementors of the selected method AND the messages sent into the selected method. In Pharo: with OB I can just do senders and implementors which looks for the senders/implementors of the selected method One is NOT able to search for senders/implementors of the messages sent within the selected method. Here I have to select the entire selector which is time consuming as described above. enter a bug entry. This was removed on request of Stef and I completely agree on this: for me it is time consuming to be forced to search for the selector in a sorted list when the selector is written/selected right in front of me. So Pharo with OB is (compared to core) really a step backwards here. I imagine that the enh I did also to get Cmd-M on class name browsing the class and Cmd-B on selectors do an implementors should also be pushed in OB. The Cmd-B was always part of OB, I've done the same for Cmd-M. Also I updated the edit pane menu to match the one of the standard browser. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
This was removed on request of Stef and I completely agree on this: for me it is time consuming to be forced to search for the selector in a sorted list when the selector is written/selected right in front of me. Maybe I dont understand what you wrote - but if I understand you correctly OB had the same behavior as in Core and this was removed from OB on request of Stef? Again: when I have a method foo self sendMessage: myMessage with: text. self sendSecondMessage: myMessage. A) In Core: I'm able to browse the senders/implementors of all three selectors using the sorted list provided by the Senders of.../Implementors of... menu: #(foo, sendMessage:with:, sendSecondMessage:) where the methods selector (#foo) of the selected method is explicitly at the top. B) In Pharo (with OB): I can only check the senders/implementors of #foo which is limiting and makes it hard to search for s/i of the other messages sent from within the method body. = So I'm limited with Pharo(OB) compared to Standard browser in Core. Bye T. -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing above and below expressions in comments?
Again: when I have a method foo self sendMessage: myMessage with: text. self sendSecondMessage: myMessage. B) In Pharo (with OB): I can only check the senders/implementors of #foo which is limiting and makes it hard to search for s/i of the other messages sent from within the method body. = So I'm limited with Pharo(OB) compared to Standard browser in Core. In OB you select (in the list or in the source code) whatever you want to browse/references/implementors/senders of. There are no additional pop-ups or questions. And please Torsten could you *finally* fix your e-mail client/account? You are the only one in the whole Smalltalk world that constantly messes up the mail threading. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
