[Pharo-users] More info & examples on MAAdaptiveModel ?
--- Begin Message --- Hi all, I am looking for more info or usage examples of MAAdaptiveModel. So far I found the following good resources: * The masters thesis of Lukas Renggli and the impl. of Pier: http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/Teaching/Lille/0910-MetaModelisation/Magritte/Reng06a.pdf * In the package Magritte-Tests-Model: The test MAAdaptiveModelTest Could someone point me to more resources on MAAdaptiveModel if there are any? Especially the topic searching / building search indexes on MAAdaptiveModel data stored e.g. in mongodb as voyage root would be helpful. -> How is the performance when searching on MAAdaptiveModel values with and without index ? Hints would be nice! Albrecht --- End Message ---
[Pharo-users] ARM vm limitations ?
--- Begin Message --- Hi, I'd like to play around with pharo on ARM devices (like a HummingBoard, the ones from ODROID or one of the beagleboards). But I am not sure if I have to take care of the ARM architecture version (ARMv6 / ARMv7 / ARMv8) when choosing my toy. I found this vm: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/armv6/ Is it only for armv6 like the folder name says or is ARMv7 and ARMv8 working too? Are there any limitations I should know before choosing a ARM device? Is there a vm for 64bit (aarch64)? Thanks! Albrecht --- End Message ---
Re: [Pharo-users] ldap, Pier3 & git migration
--- Begin Message --- sorry for double posting in dev and users ... I pushed it to https://github.com/pharo-contributions/LDAP There it fits better (and we have the 'pharo' at least inside the path...) Best Albrecht On 08.03.19 15:05, Esteban Maringolo wrote: I wasn't aware of LDAP support in Pharo. Thanks for porting it. Wouldn't it be better to call the repo "pharo-ldap"? When my repositories are Pharo specific and don't have a fancy project name I name them "pharo-something", e.g. "pharo-couchdb", "pharo-base58", "pharo-bip39mnemonic", etc. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo El vie., 8 mar. 2019 a las 8:45, Albrecht Baur via Pharo-users (mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>>) escribió: Hi, In case someone can use it: I used Peters git migration tool for ... http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/LDAP/ ... and put it to: https://github.com/a2b-alb/PharoExtras-LDAP I don't know if this is the right place or if you would rather have it under ... https://github.com/pharo-contributions/ ... or somewhere else. - here the question: I started trying to do the same migration process for ... http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pier3 ... but I failed on errors loading older mcz files: "instance of ByteString did not understand #peek" on: MCMczReader >> contentsForMember: (ZnInvalidUTF8: Illegal leading byte for utf-8 encoding) Is this wrong encoding or corrupted files ? How to treat these files ? -> Is just ignoring this majority of failing mcz files via migration ignoredFileNames: #() ok ? - As a workaround I then left the history versions behind and took only the newest mcz files. But I am not sure which package version "is in harmony" with the other ones... ;-) -> While trying out which versions of the ConfigurationOfPier3 load in a p7 image only the #stable one loaded without problems. The newer ones didn't. I did this by first loading as much pier3 dependencies (seaside, magritte, ...) from the new github repos. So I can then say ... onConflict: [ :e | e useLoaded ]; ... when loading pier3 from smaltalkhub. Can someone who knows pier3 better than me, give me a hint on which package versions combinations are the ones to go with ? -> Is to just start with the newest mcz files the way to go? Or should I use the #stable ConfigurationOfPier3 ? best, Albrecht --- End Message ---
[Pharo-users] ldap, Pier3 & git migration
--- Begin Message --- Hi, In case someone can use it: I used Peters git migration tool for ... http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/LDAP/ ... and put it to: https://github.com/a2b-alb/PharoExtras-LDAP I don't know if this is the right place or if you would rather have it under ... https://github.com/pharo-contributions/ ... or somewhere else. - here the question: I started trying to do the same migration process for ... http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pier3 ... but I failed on errors loading older mcz files: "instance of ByteString did not understand #peek" on: MCMczReader >> contentsForMember: (ZnInvalidUTF8: Illegal leading byte for utf-8 encoding) Is this wrong encoding or corrupted files ? How to treat these files ? -> Is just ignoring this majority of failing mcz files via migration ignoredFileNames: #() ok ? - As a workaround I then left the history versions behind and took only the newest mcz files. But I am not sure which package version "is in harmony" with the other ones... ;-) -> While trying out which versions of the ConfigurationOfPier3 load in a p7 image only the #stable one loaded without problems. The newer ones didn't. I did this by first loading as much pier3 dependencies (seaside, magritte, ...) from the new github repos. So I can then say ... onConflict: [ :e | e useLoaded ]; ... when loading pier3 from smaltalkhub. Can someone who knows pier3 better than me, give me a hint on which package versions combinations are the ones to go with ? -> Is to just start with the newest mcz files the way to go? Or should I use the #stable ConfigurationOfPier3 ? best, Albrecht --- End Message ---
Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess / OSSubprocess / LibC uniqueInstance
--- Begin Message --- Nice! This helps -> thanks for the explanation. Albrecht On 19.02.19 21:10, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Yeah, readme is out of date. 64 bits is working: https://github.com/pharo-contributions/OSSubprocess/issues/22 On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 4:48 PM Alistair Grant <mailto:akgrant0...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 13:45, Albrecht Baur via Pharo-users mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> wrote: > > Thank you. > > The Metacello snippet helps. It loads a newer version than that from the catalog browser. > > > But 2 more questions: > > 1.: Is there a reason not to use just ... > > LibC uniqueInstance system: 'zip -r 123.zip zipme/' You don't have the same level of control over the process, can't pipe stdio, it introduces issues with interrupts (SIGINT, SIGQUIT), etc. > And 2.: Is it ok to use OSSubprocess on in 64 bit images even though the documentation says it doesn't work ? (but it does) > > -> https://github.com/pharo-contributions/OSSubprocess#installation That's a surprise. Yes, OSSubprocess is officially supported on 64 bits, the readme is out of date. HTH, Alistair -- Mariano https://twitter.com/MartinezPeck http://marianopeck.wordpress.com --- End Message ---
Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess / OSSubprocess / LibC uniqueInstance
--- Begin Message ---
Thank you.
The Metacello snippet helps. It loads a newer version than that from the
catalog browser.
But 2 more questions:
1.: Is there a reason not to use just ...
LibC uniqueInstance system: 'zip -r 123.zip zipme/'
... ?
And 2.: Is it ok to use OSSubprocess on in 64 bit images even though the
documentation says it doesn't work ? (but it does)
-> https://github.com/pharo-contributions/OSSubprocess#installation
On 19.02.19 13:05, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
Thank you Thierry.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:48 PM Thierry Goubier
mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Serge, Albrecht,
loading OSProcess directly with the following expression works:
Metacello new
configuration: 'OSProcess';
repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository';
load
There is still some work to be done on OSProcess adaptation to Pharo
7, but they are in rarely used parts.
Regards,
Thierry
Le mar. 19 févr. 2019 à 12:19, Albrecht Baur via Pharo-users
mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>>
a écrit :
>
> I need to execute OS commands from within a x64 pharo 7.01 image
on centos7 (for example: 'zip -r 123.zip zipme/').
>
> I found these 3 tools: OSProcess, OSSubprocess, LibC uniqueInstance
>
> But I did not find any docu on which one to use for which use case.
>
> OSProcess is in the catalog browser but fails loading because of
ByteArray>>ifNotNilDo:
> -> So OSProcess is not to be used with p7 ?
>
> OSSubprocess loads via catalog browser and the following snippet
works (even though 64 bit):
>
> OSSUnixSubprocess new
> command: 'zip';
> arguments: #('-r' '123.zip' 'zipme');
> redirectStdout;
> runAndWaitOnExitDo: [ :process :outString |
> outString inspect
> ]
>
> So is it ok to use OSSubprocess with 64 bit even though
documented as 32 bit only ? (here:
https://github.com/pharo-contributions/OSSubprocess#installation)
>
> LibC uniqueInstance system: 'zip -r 123.zip zipme/'
> ... works, but I don't know if its the right tool for this.
>
> Is there somewhere more info on which tool to use for which use
case ?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Albrecht
>
> PS.: I need to use zip as os process only because of this issue:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/2584
--
Serge Stinckwic
h
Int. Research Unit
on Modelling/Simulation of Complex Systems (UMMISCO)
Sorbonne University
(SU)
French National Research Institute for Sustainable Development (IRD)
U
niversity of Yaoundé I, Cameroun
"Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally
for machines to execute."
https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich
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Re: [Pharo-users] Pier3 & content management
--- Begin Message --- thanks for the info - I will give it a try next weeks. On 19.02.19 12:41, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Hello, Not many people are using it, but it should be not much problem make it run in Pharo 7 (and with current version of Seaside). Esteban On 19 Feb 2019, at 12:03, Albrecht Baur via Pharo-users mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> wrote: *From: *Albrecht Baur <mailto:baur.albre...@googlemail.com>> *Subject: **Pier3 & content management* *Date: *19 February 2019 at 12:03:27 CET *To: *Any question about pharo is welcome mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Hey, what is the status of Pier3 + Pier3AddOns ? -> Seems to me that it is discontinued since Pharo 5, right ? I'm asking because I look around to see if there is a project usable as a starting point of a small web content management module for seaside (nothing too complicated / fancy). Is there something besides Pier that goes into this direction ? Thanks for hints, Albrecht --- End Message ---
Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess / OSSubprocess / LibC uniqueInstance
--- Begin Message ---
I just tried the easy way via catalog browser.
I think it is OSProcess 4.6.9 from http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess
On 19.02.19 12:01, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:56 AM David T. Lewis <mailto:le...@mail.msen.com>> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:37:38AM +0100, Albrecht Baur via
Pharo-users wrote:
> From: Albrecht Baur mailto:baur.albre...@googlemail.com>>
> Subject: OSProcess / OSSubprocess / LibC uniqueInstance
> To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:37:38 +0100
>
> I need to execute OS commands from within a x64 pharo 7.01 image on
> centos7 (for example: 'zip -r 123.zip zipme/').
>
> I found these 3 tools: OSProcess, OSSubprocess, LibC uniqueInstance
>
> But I did not find any docu on which one to use for which use case.
>
> * OSProcess is in the catalog browser but fails loading because of
> ByteArray>>ifNotNilDo:
> -> So OSProcess is not to be used with p7 ?
Hi Albrecht,
I am sorry that I cannot check it right now, but it may be that
ConfigurationOfOSProcess needs to be updated. The #ifNotNilDo: problem
was fixed by Thierry Goubier in July 2017, so perhaps you are using
an out of date version.
Hopefully someone else can give you a better answer, otherwise I will
try to follow up in a day or two.
I have the same problem of ifNotNilDo: when I load OSProcess in Pharo 7.
What version do you use ?
Regards,
--
Serge Stinckwic
h
Int. Research Unit
on Modelling/Simulation of Complex Systems (UMMISCO)
Sorbonne University
(SU)
French National Research Institute for Sustainable Development (IRD)
U
niversity of Yaoundé I, Cameroun
"Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally
for machines to execute."
https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich
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[Pharo-users] Pier3 & content management
--- Begin Message --- Hey, what is the status of Pier3 + Pier3AddOns ? -> Seems to me that it is discontinued since Pharo 5, right ? I'm asking because I look around to see if there is a project usable as a starting point of a small web content management module for seaside (nothing too complicated / fancy). Is there something besides Pier that goes into this direction ? Thanks for hints, Albrecht --- End Message ---
[Pharo-users] OSProcess / OSSubprocess / LibC uniqueInstance
--- Begin Message ---
I need to execute OS commands from within a x64 pharo 7.01 image on
centos7 (for example: 'zip -r 123.zip zipme/').
I found these 3 tools: OSProcess, OSSubprocess, LibC uniqueInstance
But I did not find any docu on which one to use for which use case.
* OSProcess is in the catalog browser but fails loading because of
ByteArray>>ifNotNilDo:
-> So OSProcess is not to be used with p7 ?
* OSSubprocess loads via catalog browser and the following snippet
works (even though 64 bit):
OSSUnixSubprocess new
command: 'zip';
arguments: #('-r' '123.zip' 'zipme');
redirectStdout;
runAndWaitOnExitDo: [ :process :outString |
outString inspect
]
So is it ok to use OSSubprocess with 64 bit even though documented as 32
bit only ? (here:
https://github.com/pharo-contributions/OSSubprocess#installation)
* LibC uniqueInstance system: 'zip -r 123.zip zipme/'
... works, but I don't know if its the right tool for this.
Is there somewhere more info on which tool to use for which use case ?
Thanks in advance!
Albrecht
PS.: I need to use zip as os process only because of this issue:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/2584
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Re: [Pharo-users] Why DirectoryIsNotEmpty on FileReference>>deleteAll ?
--- Begin Message --- it is not urgent for me - I have a workaround. So for me it can wait until the next stable is released. Albrecht On 07.02.19 09:58, Alistair Grant wrote: Hi Esteban, On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 09:41, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Means we will need a new stable for Pharo 7/8 ? Esteban Albrecht will obviously be the one to say how urgent it is for him, or whether he can get by with vmLatest80. From my perspective: the issue has been there "forever" (2010 or earlier) and has only just been reported. I expect that we'll eventually update the Pharo 7 VM anyway, and this can probably wait until then. Pharo 8 can wait as well, for the same reasons. Cheers, Alistair On 7 Feb 2019, at 09:23, Alistair Grant wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 09:08, Albrecht Baur wrote: Hi Alistair, I have tested it and works with the latest VM. Great, thanks for the confirmation. Cheers, Alistair thanks, Albrecht On 07.02.19 07:56, Alistair Grant wrote: Hi Albrecht, On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 19:51, Albrecht Baur via Pharo-users wrote: thank you! That is good news. best, Albrecht Would you please download the latest VM and confirm that it resolves the issue: curl get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest80 | bash The Pharo 8 VM works with Pharo 7 images. Thanks, Alistair On 06.02.19 09:34, Alistair Grant wrote: Hi Albrecht, On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:26, Albrecht Baur wrote: Hi Alistair, here the system report output: ... Thanks for the info. Please see: Issue: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/368 PR: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/371 Assuming the CI build passes, I'll wait a day or so to give the VM guys a chance to review the changes and comment before merging. Cheers, Alistair --- End Message ---
Re: [Pharo-users] Why DirectoryIsNotEmpty on FileReference>>deleteAll ?
--- Begin Message --- Hi Alistair, I have tested it and works with the latest VM. thanks, Albrecht On 07.02.19 07:56, Alistair Grant wrote: Hi Albrecht, On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 19:51, Albrecht Baur via Pharo-users wrote: thank you! That is good news. best, Albrecht Would you please download the latest VM and confirm that it resolves the issue: curl get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest80 | bash The Pharo 8 VM works with Pharo 7 images. Thanks, Alistair On 06.02.19 09:34, Alistair Grant wrote: Hi Albrecht, On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:26, Albrecht Baur wrote: Hi Alistair, here the system report output: ... Thanks for the info. Please see: Issue: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/368 PR: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/371 Assuming the CI build passes, I'll wait a day or so to give the VM guys a chance to review the changes and comment before merging. Cheers, Alistair --- End Message ---
Re: [Pharo-users] Why DirectoryIsNotEmpty on FileReference>>deleteAll ?
--- Begin Message --- thank you! That is good news. best, Albrecht On 06.02.19 09:34, Alistair Grant wrote: Hi Albrecht, On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:26, Albrecht Baur wrote: Hi Alistair, here the system report output: ... Thanks for the info. Please see: Issue: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/368 PR: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/371 Assuming the CI build passes, I'll wait a day or so to give the VM guys a chance to review the changes and comment before merging. Cheers, Alistair --- End Message ---
[Pharo-users] Why DirectoryIsNotEmpty on FileReference>>deleteAll ?
--- Begin Message --- I get a DirectoryIsNotEmpty exception on FileReference(AbstractFileReference)>>deleteAll. But deleteAll is supposed to delete children too. -> So why the exception ? I can reproduce it with: --- | sourceFolder deleteMeFolder numberOfRetries | sourceFolder := '/network-drive-mounted-via-cifs/delme-tmpl/'. deleteMeFolder := '/network-drive-mounted-via-cifs/delme/'. "copy sourceFolder to deleteMeFolder:" sourceFolder asFileReference copyAllTo: deleteMeFolder asFileReference . "delete deleteMeFolder again:" numberOfRetries := 0. [ deleteMeFolder asFileReference deleteAll ] on: DirectoryIsNotEmpty do: [:ex| (numberOfRetries := numberOfRetries + 1) < 5 ifTrue: [ ex retry ] ]. Transcript crLog . Transcript show: 'Retries: ', numberOfRetries asString . --- ---> numberOfRetries is now = 1 ! BUT: this only happens when sourceFolder and deleteMeFolder are on a network drive mounted via cifs. (linux fstab entry like: //host/share /network-drive-mounted-via-cifs/ cifs credentials=...,uid=... 0 0 ) How do I handle such situations when working with the file library on network drives? (My "retry on exception" workaround seems hackish to me.) Thanks, Albrecht --- End Message ---
