[Pharo-users] mentor wanted for a web application

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

Hello,

I like Pharo a lot and I like to make a web site with it for a volunteer 
organisation.


For the web site I need a login system.
And some products which can be "borrowed" by a client which has a 
subscription.


We have also some volunteer in the "shop"  where a client can also 
"borrow" some toys.

So a client can "borrow"  some toys  in the "shop" and also on the internet.

So I hope someone can and will be a mentor for me so we discuss the best 
way to make such a website.
So which "framework"  to use and which database to use and which classes 
I need


Regards,

Roelof

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

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Op 26-4-2020 om 06:30 schreef Richard O'Keefe:

Roelof, *I* was offering to write something.

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 19:47, Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users
 wrote:

Op 25-4-2020 om 08:30 schreef Richard Sargent:

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 22:25 Richard O'Keefe  wrote:

Roelof, I don't think CRC cards or the GRASP patterns or anything like that
addresses your immediate needs.  Based on other questions of yours it
seems to me that your problem is not *organising* the responsibilities in an
OO program, but decomposing a problem into responsibilities in the first
place.  I think this is perhaps the most important part of programming, and
the hardest to learn, not least because very few of us are good at teaching
it.  We're not very good at teaching it in mathematics either.  I do not think
your issues are anything to do with Pharo, Smalltalk, OOP, or programming
as such.

One symptom of the general problem that I've noticed is that I see code as
a very fluid sort of thing where pieces can be moved around and recombined,
while many people think of code as something solid and rather brittle.

I was thinking of writing up a short description of what I was thinking for a
RosettaCode example anyway.  Would that help?


Thank you, Richard. I appreciate your offering this. I am not a teacher, so 
your help is truly appreciated!



Moment,  I have to look if  I understand you right.
I think you have some strong points but the last one I did not understand well.

Do I have to write  for example for a exercism challenge  a short description 
of that problem like people do with rosetta code challenges and example code ?

Roelof




oke, I also accept this offer also.
The more angles I learn to solve this , the more I can use that in later 
challenges.



and if I understand everything right , the solution is very simple

linksTowards: anAddress do: aBlock
    "Simple flood algorithm: route via all outgoing links.
However, just loopback if the receiver node is the routing destination."

    address = anAddress
        ifTrue: [ aBlock evaluate: loopback ]
        ifFalse: [ outgoingLinks do: aBlock ]


and the flow is this :

send: aPacket
    "Send aPacket, leaving the responsibility of routing to the node."

    self
        linksTowards: aPacket destinationAddress
        do: [ :link | self send: aPacket via: link ]

so for linkTwowards the anAddress is  the `aPacket destinationAdress `  
and the aBlock  is ` [:link | self send: aPacket via: link `


so if the address is the loopback one  it would be ` self send: aPacket 
via: loopback `


and send is this :

send: aPacket via: aLink
    aLink emit: aPacket

so that would be  ` loopback emit : aPackage  `

and that would lead to :

emit: aPacket
    "Packets are not transmitted right away, but stored.
Transmission is explicitly triggered later, by sending #transmit:."

    packetsToTransmit add: aPacket

where packetsToTransmit is a OrderedCollection
where the packet is added

Waiting till the transmit method is called where the sending of a 
package is simulated.


Roelof



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Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Richard O'Keefe]

Roelof, *I* was offering to write something.

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 19:47, Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users
 wrote:
>
> Op 25-4-2020 om 08:30 schreef Richard Sargent:
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 22:25 Richard O'Keefe  wrote:
>>
>> Roelof, I don't think CRC cards or the GRASP patterns or anything like that
>> addresses your immediate needs.  Based on other questions of yours it
>> seems to me that your problem is not *organising* the responsibilities in an
>> OO program, but decomposing a problem into responsibilities in the first
>> place.  I think this is perhaps the most important part of programming, and
>> the hardest to learn, not least because very few of us are good at teaching
>> it.  We're not very good at teaching it in mathematics either.  I do not 
>> think
>> your issues are anything to do with Pharo, Smalltalk, OOP, or programming
>> as such.
>>
>> One symptom of the general problem that I've noticed is that I see code as
>> a very fluid sort of thing where pieces can be moved around and recombined,
>> while many people think of code as something solid and rather brittle.
>>
>> I was thinking of writing up a short description of what I was thinking for a
>> RosettaCode example anyway.  Would that help?
>
>
> Thank you, Richard. I appreciate your offering this. I am not a teacher, so 
> your help is truly appreciated!
>
>
>
> Moment,  I have to look if  I understand you right.
> I think you have some strong points but the last one I did not understand 
> well.
>
> Do I have to write  for example for a exercism challenge  a short description 
> of that problem like people do with rosetta code challenges and example code ?
>
> Roelof
>

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

--- Begin Message ---

  
  
Op 25-4-2020 om 08:30 schreef Richard
  Sargent:


  
  

  
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020,
  22:25 Richard O'Keefe 
  wrote:

Roelof,
  I don't think CRC cards or the GRASP patterns or anything
  like that
  addresses your immediate needs.  Based on other questions
  of yours it
  seems to me that your problem is not *organising* the
  responsibilities in an
  OO program, but decomposing a problem into
  responsibilities in the first
  place.  I think this is perhaps the most important part of
  programming, and
  the hardest to learn, not least because very few of us are
  good at teaching
  it.  We're not very good at teaching it in mathematics
  either.  I do not think
  your issues are anything to do with Pharo, Smalltalk, OOP,
  or programming
  as such.
  
  One symptom of the general problem that I've noticed is
  that I see code as
  a very fluid sort of thing where pieces can be moved
  around and recombined,
  while many people think of code as something solid and
  rather brittle.
  
  I was thinking of writing up a short description of what I
  was thinking for a
  RosettaCode example anyway.  Would that help?

  



Thank you, Richard. I appreciate your offering
  this. I am not a teacher, so your help is truly appreciated!



  


Moment,  I have to look if  I understand you right.
I think you have some strong points but the last one I did not
understand well. 
 
Do I have to write  for example for a exercism challenge  a short
description of that problem like people do with rosetta code
challenges and example code ? 

Roelof

  


--- End Message ---

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Richard Sargent]

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 22:25 Richard O'Keefe  wrote:

> Roelof, I don't think CRC cards or the GRASP patterns or anything like that
> addresses your immediate needs.  Based on other questions of yours it
> seems to me that your problem is not *organising* the responsibilities in
> an
> OO program, but decomposing a problem into responsibilities in the first
> place.  I think this is perhaps the most important part of programming, and
> the hardest to learn, not least because very few of us are good at teaching
> it.  We're not very good at teaching it in mathematics either.  I do not
> think
> your issues are anything to do with Pharo, Smalltalk, OOP, or programming
> as such.
>
> One symptom of the general problem that I've noticed is that I see code as
> a very fluid sort of thing where pieces can be moved around and recombined,
> while many people think of code as something solid and rather brittle.
>
> I was thinking of writing up a short description of what I was thinking
> for a
> RosettaCode example anyway.  Would that help?
>

Thank you, Richard. I appreciate your offering this. I am not a teacher, so
your help is truly appreciated!



>
>
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 23:16, Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
> > With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.
> >
> > Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
> > that problem.
> >
> > Roelof
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Richard O'Keefe]

Roelof, I don't think CRC cards or the GRASP patterns or anything like that
addresses your immediate needs.  Based on other questions of yours it
seems to me that your problem is not *organising* the responsibilities in an
OO program, but decomposing a problem into responsibilities in the first
place.  I think this is perhaps the most important part of programming, and
the hardest to learn, not least because very few of us are good at teaching
it.  We're not very good at teaching it in mathematics either.  I do not think
your issues are anything to do with Pharo, Smalltalk, OOP, or programming
as such.

One symptom of the general problem that I've noticed is that I see code as
a very fluid sort of thing where pieces can be moved around and recombined,
while many people think of code as something solid and rather brittle.

I was thinking of writing up a short description of what I was thinking for a
RosettaCode example anyway.  Would that help?



On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 23:16, Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
> With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.
>
> Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
> that problem.
>
> Roelof
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

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Op 24-4-2020 om 09:49 schreef Hilaire:

Find it.

It is a chapter of the book Squeak, Open Personal Computing and 
Multimedia 


http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/GuzdialBookDrafts/DesignObjects-ch4.pdf 



Le 24/04/2020 à 09:39, Hilaire a écrit :
I remember about a Smalltalk book presenting the CRC concept 
precisely used to cut complex problem in small chunks.




Hilaire and Cedric thanks, I will also study those.



--- End Message ---

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Hilaire]

Find it.

It is a chapter of the book Squeak, Open Personal Computing and 
Multimedia 


http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/GuzdialBookDrafts/DesignObjects-ch4.pdf

Le 24/04/2020 à 09:39, Hilaire a écrit :
I remember about a Smalltalk book presenting the CRC concept precisely 
used to cut complex problem in small chunks.


--
Dr. Geo
http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Hilaire]

Hi Roelof,

I remember about a Smalltalk book presenting the CRC concept precisely 
used to cut complex problem in small chunks.


I can't find the reference right now but it is very likely among those 
books available online (http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html). 
May be a member of the list remember about it.


Hilaire

Le 23/04/2020 à 12:31, Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users a écrit :

With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.


--
Dr. Geo
http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

--- Begin Message ---

  
  
Op 23-4-2020 om 23:53 schreef Richard
  Sargent:


  
  

  On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:42
PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:
  
  

  Op 23-4-2020 om 23:00 schreef Richard Sargent:
  
  

  
On Thu, Apr 23,
  2020 at 12:14 PM Roelof Wobben 
  wrote:


  
Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard
  Sargent:


  

  On Thu,
Apr 23, 2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben

wrote:
  
  

  Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef
Richard Sargent:
  
  

  
On Thu, Apr
  23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof
  Wobben via Pharo-users 
  wrote:

Hello,
  
  I like Pharo a lot but I hit a
  wall very often.
  With complex problems I do not
  see how to solve things in
  small steps.



I would be happy to help
  with the Smalltalk and problem
  analysis aspects.
  Unfortunately, I don't use
  Pharo much, so I cannot help
  with it.
 


  
  Is there somewhere who is
  willing to mentor me in how I
  can overcome 
  that problem.
  
  Roelof
  
  

  

  
  
  Pity, 
  
  
  but if you could help me to learn how
  to divide a complex problem in smaller
  steps , then I think I can make it
  work in Pharo.   My problem is more
  that then how to do it in Pharo. 
  
  Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
  Pity that I cannot make exercism
  challenges on that.
  And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult
  for a beginner. 

  
  
  
  Yes, I can help with those areas.
I've been programming professionally and
virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since
1991. 
  
  
  
  I've been using GemStone/S since 2009
and now work for the manufacturer. I've
been working with VA Smalltalk and its
predecessors since 1994 and with
VisualWorks since 2009.
  
   

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Richard Sargent]

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:42 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:

> Op 23-4-2020 om 23:00 schreef Richard Sargent:
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:14 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:
>
>> Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard Sargent:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:
>>
>>> Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard Sargent:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users <
>>> pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
 With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.

>>>
>>> I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem analysis
>>> aspects. Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.
>>>
>>>
 Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
 that problem.

 Roelof



>>> Pity,
>>>
>>>
>>> but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex problem in
>>> smaller steps , then I think I can make it work in Pharo.   My problem is
>>> more that then how to do it in Pharo.
>>>
>>> Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
>>> Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
>>> And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been programming professionally
>> and virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since 1991.
>>
>> I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now work for the manufacturer.
>> I've been working with VA Smalltalk and its predecessors since 1994 and
>> with VisualWorks since 2009.
>>
>> I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of its life, the assumption
>> was that you would use a client Smalltalk like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks
>> to do your development work. Although, recently we've been working on
>> Jadeite (https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite) to provide a development
>> environment independent of GBS (which is what we used to connect VA
>> Smalltalk and VisualWorks to GemStone/S).
>>
>>
>>> Roelof
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oke, I have heard of it  but because I could not find a course or book
>> about gemstone and found a mooc about Pharo I choose that one.
>>
>
> Pharo is an excellent choice and the MOOC should help.
>
>
>> But is there then much difference between Pharo and Gemstone or can I
>> make a solution to a problem and use the same code for both.
>>
>
> There are many differences. Most notably, GemStone doesn't have a GUI.
> However, there are many people using what's called "Develop in Pharo,
> deploy in GemStone" with Seaside.
>
>
>> For me programming is a hobby. In the Netherlands most companies use c#
>> and with 53 and no XP I do not think its wise to  think I find a job as
>> developer.
>>
>
> It's a good hobby. I wouldn't plan on finding a job, if I were you, but
> you never know. Opportunities come along, especially if you are ready for
> one.
>
>
>> Roelof
>>
>>
> Oke,
>
> if you still wanted , it is fine with me that you mentor me.
> But I think we need to  find a way to make it work and I do not know if
> posting on the pharo ml is a good way to make it work because then we
> pollute the ML and other people can interfer.
>
> Do you have any ideas ?
> For me its fine that you send emails to my personal email.
>

Either way works for me, but I think discussing the issues on list will be
beneficial. There are a lot of other people out there who will have ideas
and different perspectives. And some of them might be able to answer your
questions more quickly than I could get to them.


> Roelof
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

--- Begin Message ---

  
  
Op 23-4-2020 om 23:00 schreef Richard
  Sargent:


  
  

  On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at
12:14 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:
  
  

  Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard Sargent:
  
  

  
On Thu, Apr 23,
  2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben 
  wrote:


  
Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard
  Sargent:


  

  On Thu,
Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben
via Pharo-users 
wrote:
  
  Hello,

I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very
often.
With complex problems I do not see how
to solve things in small steps.
  
  
  
  I would be happy to help with the
Smalltalk and problem analysis aspects.
Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much,
so I cannot help with it.
   
  
   
Is there somewhere who is willing to
mentor me in how I can overcome 
that problem.

Roelof


  

  


Pity, 


but if you could help me to learn how to divide
a complex problem in smaller steps , then I
think I can make it work in Pharo.   My problem
is more that then how to do it in Pharo. 

Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on
that.
And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a
beginner. 
  



Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been
  programming professionally and virtually
  exclusively in Smalltalk since 1991. 



I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now
  work for the manufacturer. I've been working with
  VA Smalltalk and its predecessors since 1994 and
  with VisualWorks since 2009.


I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of
  its life, the assumption was that you would use a
  client Smalltalk like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks
  to do your development work. Although, recently
  we've been working on Jadeite (https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite)
  to provide a development environment independent
  of GBS (which is what we used to connect VA
  Smalltalk and VisualWorks to GemStone/S).



   
Roelof

  

  

  
  
  
  Oke, I have heard of it  but because I could not find a
  course or book about gemstone and found a mooc about Pharo
  I choose that one. 

  
  
  
  Pharo is an excellent choice and the MOOC should help.
  
  
  
 
  But is there then much difference between Pharo and
  Gemstone or can I make a solution to a problem and use the
  same code for both. 

  
  
  
  There are many differences. Most notably, GemStone
 

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Richard Sargent]

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:14 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:

> Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard Sargent:
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:
>
>> Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard Sargent:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users <
>> pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
>>> With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.
>>>
>>
>> I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem analysis aspects.
>> Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.
>>
>>
>>> Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
>>> that problem.
>>>
>>> Roelof
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Pity,
>>
>>
>> but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex problem in
>> smaller steps , then I think I can make it work in Pharo.   My problem is
>> more that then how to do it in Pharo.
>>
>> Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
>> Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
>> And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner.
>>
>
> Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been programming professionally and
> virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since 1991.
>
> I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now work for the manufacturer.
> I've been working with VA Smalltalk and its predecessors since 1994 and
> with VisualWorks since 2009.
>
> I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of its life, the assumption
> was that you would use a client Smalltalk like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks
> to do your development work. Although, recently we've been working on
> Jadeite (https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite) to provide a development
> environment independent of GBS (which is what we used to connect VA
> Smalltalk and VisualWorks to GemStone/S).
>
>
>> Roelof
>>
>>
>
> Oke, I have heard of it  but because I could not find a course or book
> about gemstone and found a mooc about Pharo I choose that one.
>

Pharo is an excellent choice and the MOOC should help.


> But is there then much difference between Pharo and Gemstone or can I make
> a solution to a problem and use the same code for both.
>

There are many differences. Most notably, GemStone doesn't have a GUI.
However, there are many people using what's called "Develop in Pharo,
deploy in GemStone" with Seaside.


> For me programming is a hobby. In the Netherlands most companies use c#
> and with 53 and no XP I do not think its wise to  think I find a job as
> developer.
>

It's a good hobby. I wouldn't plan on finding a job, if I were you, but you
never know. Opportunities come along, especially if you are ready for one.


> Roelof
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

--- Begin Message ---

  
  
Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard
  Sargent:


  
  

  On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at
12:00 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:
  
  

  Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard Sargent:
  
  

  
On Thu, Apr 23,
  2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users 
  wrote:

Hello,
  
  I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
  With complex problems I do not see how to solve
  things in small steps.



I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and
  problem analysis aspects. Unfortunately, I don't
  use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.
 

 
  Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in
  how I can overcome 
  that problem.
  
  Roelof
  
  

  

  
  
  Pity, 
  
  
  but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex
  problem in smaller steps , then I think I can make it work
  in Pharo.   My problem is more that then how to do it in
  Pharo. 
  
  Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
  Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
  And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner. 

  
  
  
  Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been programming
professionally and virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since
1991. 
  
  
  
  I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now work for
the manufacturer. I've been working with VA Smalltalk and
its predecessors since 1994 and with VisualWorks since 2009.
  
  
  I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of its life,
the assumption was that you would use a client Smalltalk
like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks to do your development
work. Although, recently we've been working on Jadeite (https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite)
to provide a development environment independent of GBS
(which is what we used to connect VA Smalltalk and
VisualWorks to GemStone/S).
  
  
  
 
  Roelof
  

  

  



Oke, I have heard of it  but because I could not find a course or
book about gemstone and found a mooc about Pharo I choose that one.


But is there then much difference between Pharo and Gemstone or can
I make a solution to a problem and use the same code for both. 

For me programming is a hobby. In the Netherlands most companies use
c#  and with 53 and no XP I do not think its wise to  think I find a
job as developer. 

Roelof

  


--- End Message ---

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Richard Sargent]

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben  wrote:

> Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard Sargent:
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users <
> pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
>> With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.
>>
>
> I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem analysis aspects.
> Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.
>
>
>> Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
>> that problem.
>>
>> Roelof
>>
>>
>>
> Pity,
>
>
> but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex problem in
> smaller steps , then I think I can make it work in Pharo.   My problem is
> more that then how to do it in Pharo.
>
> Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
> Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
> And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner.
>

Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been programming professionally and
virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since 1991.

I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now work for the manufacturer.
I've been working with VA Smalltalk and its predecessors since 1994 and
with VisualWorks since 2009.

I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of its life, the assumption was
that you would use a client Smalltalk like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks to
do your development work. Although, recently we've been working on Jadeite (
https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite) to provide a development environment
independent of GBS (which is what we used to connect VA Smalltalk and
VisualWorks to GemStone/S).


> Roelof
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

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Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard
  Sargent:


  
  

  On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32
AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users 
wrote:
  
  Hello,

I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in
small steps.
  
  
  
  I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem
analysis aspects. Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so
I cannot help with it.
   
  
  

Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can
overcome 
that problem.

Roelof


  

  


Pity, 


but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex problem in
smaller steps , then I think I can make it work in Pharo.   My
problem is more that then how to do it in Pharo. 

Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner. 

Roelof

  


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Re: [Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Richard Sargent]

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users <
pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
> With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.
>

I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem analysis aspects.
Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.


> Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
> that problem.
>
> Roelof
>
>
>

[Pharo-users] mentor wanted

[Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users]

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Hello,

I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.

Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome 
that problem.


Roelof


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