Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think
ger _Michigan Antique Phonograph Society_ (http://www.michiganantiquephonographsociety.org/) you should go to one of the phono shows in the spring there is one in wayne new jersey and i believe lynn bilton still has one in connecticut about 50 mile south of you down rte 7 you may be able to find it on maps link In a message dated 12/26/2009 10:14:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ge...@comcast.net writes: The poor London model of Edison's Diamond Disc machine looks like it had been tortured. The vertical section was there afterall, but a cable, wood block and some other things (part going into the horn) were missing. Someone had SOLDERED the horn on the top to another piece (sloppy shiney solder), I guess to keep it from dragging...poor soul of a machine. My impression is that without ALL the parts, there would be stress on both the record grooves and the diamond reproducer, which would be forced to take on the burden of moving the heavy pieces across the record...at least that's the way it seems to me. Needless to say, the machine still sits with the seller...who is now a bit wiser, since I shared the photo and what I knew with her. She seemed not at all disappointed and actually fascinated to learn something about the poor mess. As for its WEIGHT. I've got an "AH-HAH!" I took the flashlight and checked out the left side where the 24 slots for records was. I could see that 2, that's TWO, thick metal weights were in place behind the slots. They went across the back, one high, one low. This was probably to balance the weight of the phono in the right-sided compartment. BOTH sides were equally heavy, and I mean heavy! I could not lift one corner. Wow, was all I could say. But again. This was a fun adventure and learning experience which didn't cost many bucks. It would not have been either without the help of this great group. :) I will, however, now keep an eye out for an Edison (table model) which could play my records! And I think I know a little bit about how these machines work...not a lot, but enough probably to just get into more trouble. LOL Oh, and I will wash the records with denatured alcohol before I put them away. One last question on STORAGE: Store records flat, right? But what do you put between them, and is a paper box OK ? Thank you all, Ger ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think
Yes, those Edison Table models are few and far between, and because of that they can get pricey. I would suggest you send us some photos of what you described. Ron was correct on all counts. - Original Message - From: "DanKj" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 1:11:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think Too bad you didn't get some pics of it - I wanted to see what made it seem such a mess. The solder is supposed to be there, as Ron L'H said, and if there was anything running into the horn it was just a volume control, which I remove anyway because it muffles the sound. The straps behind the slots sound correct, too. Except for the missing grill, how bad is the cabinet? You might be disappointed to learn that the few Edison table models are less common than floor models and they're HEAVY, awkward things. My Chalet weighs about 70 pounds, and my B-80 nearly as much. - Original Message - From: "ger" > The poor London model of Edison's Diamond Disc machine looks like it had > been tortured. The vertical section was there afterall, but a cable, wood > block and some other things (part going into the horn) were missing. > Someone had SOLDERED the horn on th > > Needless to say, the machine still sits with the seller...who is now a bit > wiser, since I shared the photo and what I knew with her. She seemed not > at all disappointed and actually fascinated to learn something about the > poor mess. > > As for its WEIGHT. I've got an "AH-HAH!" I took the flashlight and checked > out the left side where the 24 slots for records was. I could see that 2, > that's TWO, thick metal weights were in place behind the slots. They went > across the back, one high, one low. \ > > > I will, however, now keep an eye out for an Edison (table model) which > could play my records ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think
Too bad you didn't get some pics of it - I wanted to see what made it seem such a mess. The solder is supposed to be there, as Ron L'H said, and if there was anything running into the horn it was just a volume control, which I remove anyway because it muffles the sound. The straps behind the slots sound correct, too. Except for the missing grill, how bad is the cabinet? You might be disappointed to learn that the few Edison table models are less common than floor models and they're HEAVY, awkward things. My Chalet weighs about 70 pounds, and my B-80 nearly as much. - Original Message - From: "ger" The poor London model of Edison's Diamond Disc machine looks like it had been tortured. The vertical section was there afterall, but a cable, wood block and some other things (part going into the horn) were missing. Someone had SOLDERED the horn on th Needless to say, the machine still sits with the seller...who is now a bit wiser, since I shared the photo and what I knew with her. She seemed not at all disappointed and actually fascinated to learn something about the poor mess. As for its WEIGHT. I've got an "AH-HAH!" I took the flashlight and checked out the left side where the 24 slots for records was. I could see that 2, that's TWO, thick metal weights were in place behind the slots. They went across the back, one high, one low. \ I will, however, now keep an eye out for an Edison (table model) which could play my records ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think
I found a BC 34 console phonograph many years ago stuffed in the back room of an antique store with a bunch of old sewing machines. They didn't know what it was and sold it to me for $40.00. It was first phonograph and it got me started collecting. I still listen to it today as I work in my home office. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of DanKj Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:11 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think Too bad you didn't get some pics of it - I wanted to see what made it seem such a mess. The solder is supposed to be there, as Ron L'H said, and if there was anything running into the horn it was just a volume control, which I remove anyway because it muffles the sound. The straps behind the slots sound correct, too. Except for the missing grill, how bad is the cabinet? You might be disappointed to learn that the few Edison table models are less common than floor models and they're HEAVY, awkward things. My Chalet weighs about 70 pounds, and my B-80 nearly as much. - Original Message - From: "ger" > The poor London model of Edison's Diamond Disc machine looks like it had > been tortured. The vertical section was there afterall, but a cable, wood > block and some other things (part going into the horn) were missing. > Someone had SOLDERED the horn on th > > Needless to say, the machine still sits with the seller...who is now a bit > wiser, since I shared the photo and what I knew with her. She seemed not > at all disappointed and actually fascinated to learn something about the > poor mess. > > As for its WEIGHT. I've got an "AH-HAH!" I took the flashlight and checked > out the left side where the 24 slots for records was. I could see that 2, > that's TWO, thick metal weights were in place behind the slots. They went > across the back, one high, one low. \ > > > I will, however, now keep an eye out for an Edison (table model) which > could play my records ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think
Trudy the Angora Cat favors our BC for napping and watching the records spin. Mine was way more than $40, but did come with an excellent 78/Pathe adapter & bonus crate of nice discs - and it's always interesting to see what constituted a vintage record collection. Your find reminds me of my Brunswick - it was in the back room of a coin/stamp/45rpm store in the country outside of Buffalo. They wanted $50, which I managed to raise (being 12 yrs old, when $50 wasn't to sneeze at) but I couldn't move it home right away. So, I gave them the money & took every part I could carry - reproducer, crank, all the old packs of needles, instruction books, even the turntable. Then I locked the lid took the key. Took me a month to convince my father to drive out there & haul the thing back . - Original Message - From: "Tom Jordan" To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think I found a BC 34 console phonograph many years ago stuffed in the back room of an antique store with a bunch of old sewing machines. They didn't know what it was and sold it to me for $40.00. It was first phonograph and it got me started collecting. I still listen to it today as I work in my home office. Tom ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Edison BC-34
My first Edison was also a BC-34, first laid eyes on it in 1976 when I was 14, in the back of a pickup truck at a flea market. Beautifully preserved original-finish machine with the bronze finish reproducer and metal parts. It had the 10 and 12 buttons for stopping the reproducer at the ten or twelve inch start position. I couldn't afford the $135 for the machine, so I bought several DD records. It only took me a few seconds of trying to play one on my steel-needle machine at home, to realize that there was no choice but to go back and buy the machine. I horse-traded whatever I owned and somehow raised the cash and went back the following weekend. I found the seller but no BC-34. Turns out he still had it and (for understandable reasons) decided not to cart it back to the flea. I got directions to his house, and met up with him the next day. I really had to twist my older brother's arm to allow me to put it in the back of his hatchback Mustang. I can't imagine how we shoe-horned it in there, but somehow we did. I'm sure I fussed about jamming cardboard everywhere, because we got it home without a scratch. My big prize, and a red letter day in my early phonograph collecting life. I played that machine incessantly. Just a memory now, as it was destroyed in 1992 by Hurricane Andrew. By that time, it was with a friend in Miami, as I had moved to Santa Fe 9 years earlier. Andy Baron On Dec 27, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: I found a BC 34 console phonograph many years ago stuffed in the back room of an antique store with a bunch of old sewing machines. They didn't know what it was and sold it to me for $40.00. It was first phonograph and it got me started collecting. I still listen to it today as I work in my home office. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org ] On Behalf Of DanKj Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:11 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The last word on Diamond Discs...I think Too bad you didn't get some pics of it - I wanted to see what made it seem such a mess. The solder is supposed to be there, as Ron L'H said, and if there was anything running into the horn it was just a volume control, which I remove anyway because it muffles the sound. The straps behind the slots sound correct, too. Except for the missing grill, how bad is the cabinet? You might be disappointed to learn that the few Edison table models are less common than floor models and they're HEAVY, awkward things. My Chalet weighs about 70 pounds, and my B-80 nearly as much. - Original Message - From: "ger" The poor London model of Edison's Diamond Disc machine looks like it had been tortured. The vertical section was there afterall, but a cable, wood block and some other things (part going into the horn) were missing. Someone had SOLDERED the horn on th Needless to say, the machine still sits with the seller...who is now a bit wiser, since I shared the photo and what I knew with her. She seemed not at all disappointed and actually fascinated to learn something about the poor mess. As for its WEIGHT. I've got an "AH-HAH!" I took the flashlight and checked out the left side where the 24 slots for records was. I could see that 2, that's TWO, thick metal weights were in place behind the slots. They went across the back, one high, one low. \ I will, however, now keep an eye out for an Edison (table model) which could play my records ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
