[Phono-L] Wanted-all original Victor IV
Looking for an all original Victor IV-a truly original machine that has not been refinished---please contact me directly at ---elcamino...@aol.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] VTLA 12" Record Storage boxes needed.
Just inquiring to see if any of you have Some of the early Victor 12" Record boxes that came with the Victor L Door VTLA ? I am in need of 3 of the 12 " Boxes (each box was designed to hold 15 records) to complete the interior storage area of my VTLA. I would prefer the later lettered boxes (best case scenario would be 12" boxes D, E, & G), but in leiu of that, I would be happy with either 3 of the earlier non-lettered style boxes, or any other 3 12" Lettered box combination that you might have in stock. Looking forward hearing from you. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine - odorless is a turpenoid substitute -
yes, I never found the odor particularly offensive or long lived. This entire process is done with very little boiled linseed oil in a lot of turpentine. The Turpenoid Odorless is one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound On 05/25/2012 03:36 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: The 'odorless' turpentine is a petroleum derivative. When I am making my secret recipe belt dressing to keep a new leather belt from slipping and protect it for the next 100 years, I use real turpentine as the carrier solvent. The odor actually smells like 'old phonograph' so my wife puts a dab behind each ear when she wants some attention. Best to the list, Al -Original Message- From: John SHEETS To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine I believe there is an odorless turpentine--artists use it. ttp://www.artsupply.com/Turpenoid-Odorless-Turpentine_c_666.html 012/5/25 Steven Medved: Turpentine come from the sap of pine trees, in Florida they used to remove the ark which killed the tree like in the photo in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine It was hard work so prison inmates often did it as no one else wanted to. Later they make pots that you could nail to a tree to extract and not kill the ree, a man I work with found the fragments of the pots in his backyard. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=turpentine+pot Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine - odorless is a turpenoid substitute -
The odor actually smells like 'old phonograph' so my wife puts a dab behind each ear when she wants some attention. I need give this tip to my wife as well. Steve > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: clockworkh...@aol.com > Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 16:36:22 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine - odorless is a turpenoid substitute - > > > The 'odorless' turpentine is a petroleum derivative. When I am making my > secret recipe belt dressing to keep a new leather belt from slipping and > protect it for the next 100 years, I use real turpentine as the carrier > solvent. The odor actually smells like 'old phonograph' so my wife puts a > dab behind each ear when she wants some attention. > > Best to the list, > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: John SHEETS > To: Antique Phonograph List > Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 1:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine > > > I believe there is an odorless turpentine--artists use it. > ttp://www.artsupply.com/Turpenoid-Odorless-Turpentine_c_666.html > > 012/5/25 Steven Medved : > > Turpentine come from the sap of pine trees, in Florida they used to remove > the > ark which killed the tree like in the photo in this article. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine > It was hard work so prison inmates often did it as no one else wanted to. > Later they make pots that you could nail to a tree to extract and not kill > the > ree, a man I work with found the fragments of the pots in his backyard. > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=turpentine+pot > Steve > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > > -- > ohn S. > __ > hono-L mailing list > ttp://phono-l.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine - odorless is a turpenoid substitute -
The 'odorless' turpentine is a petroleum derivative. When I am making my secret recipe belt dressing to keep a new leather belt from slipping and protect it for the next 100 years, I use real turpentine as the carrier solvent. The odor actually smells like 'old phonograph' so my wife puts a dab behind each ear when she wants some attention. Best to the list, Al -Original Message- From: John SHEETS To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine I believe there is an odorless turpentine--artists use it. ttp://www.artsupply.com/Turpenoid-Odorless-Turpentine_c_666.html 012/5/25 Steven Medved : Turpentine come from the sap of pine trees, in Florida they used to remove the ark which killed the tree like in the photo in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine It was hard work so prison inmates often did it as no one else wanted to. Later they make pots that you could nail to a tree to extract and not kill the ree, a man I work with found the fragments of the pots in his backyard. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=turpentine+pot Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org -- ohn S. __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine
It functions the same way as a thinner but it is not turpentine. On 05/25/2012 02:58 PM, John SHEETS wrote: I believe there is an odorless turpentine--artists use it. http://www.artsupply.com/Turpenoid-Odorless-Turpentine_c_666.html 2012/5/25 Steven Medved: Turpentine come from the sap of pine trees, in Florida they used to remove the bark which killed the tree like in the photo in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine It was hard work so prison inmates often did it as no one else wanted to. Later they make pots that you could nail to a tree to extract and not kill the tree, a man I work with found the fragments of the pots in his backyard. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=turpentine+pot Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
What about just hot linseed oil? Linseed oil heated in a pan on a stove and then carefully (so you don't burn your fingers) applied? I've used this to finish furniture with good results. Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:01 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment Boiled linseed oil and real turpentine if not slathered on like mayo on a roll will penetrate and the turps will vaporize in a couple of days. There is not much else that will work to get the linseed oil into the wood as turpentine is produced from the wood. You could experiment with DMSO as if it thins the linseed then it will also work and it does not have an odor. Oil paint thinner (VM&P Naphtha) will work but that is benzine. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turpentine
I believe there is an odorless turpentine--artists use it. http://www.artsupply.com/Turpenoid-Odorless-Turpentine_c_666.html 2012/5/25 Steven Medved : > > Turpentine come from the sap of pine trees, in Florida they used to remove > the bark which killed the tree like in the photo in this article. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine > It was hard work so prison inmates often did it as no one else wanted to. > Later they make pots that you could nail to a tree to extract and not kill > the tree, a man I work with found the fragments of the pots in his backyard. > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=turpentine+pot > Steve > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > -- John S. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Turpentine
Turpentine come from the sap of pine trees, in Florida they used to remove the bark which killed the tree like in the photo in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine It was hard work so prison inmates often did it as no one else wanted to. Later they make pots that you could nail to a tree to extract and not kill the tree, a man I work with found the fragments of the pots in his backyard. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=turpentine+pot Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet
Here is the e-mail I sent to John, I neglected to remove the Phono-L and put OFF LIST in the subject so he and I thought it went out to the whole list. To: steve_nor...@msn.com From: john9...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:47:32 -0700 Omg a thousand apologies Rob M! - Reply message - From: "Steven Medved" Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 8:16 am Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet To: John, Rob Lomas sold the CAT reproducers. Rob Mallet goes to the Orlando Show each year and lives in Florida. I forgot to ask Rob Mallet a question. Rob Mallet is part of an outstanding bunch of people that really make the Orlando show fun to go to. He has always been very nice to communicate with and helpful. Steve > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:42:16 -0700 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet > > Steve - > > It is edisoniareco...@yahoo.com. Did he rip you off too? A friend of mine ( a > known researcher and author) ordered a CAT reproducer from him something like > five years ago, and Rob cashed the check (over $200) and never sent the item. > My friend told me about it recently and I told him I had Rob's email address > and would mention it, and I got this email back from Rob saying that he had > the reproducer but had never mailed it because he got divorced and had to > move and he lost the address in the move. So I am all happy, thinking I am > going to get my friend's reproducer. I gave him the mailing address, and he > never sent it. I have written him three or four times since then and never > received a response. So I guess he's just another crook. If you ask me, he > committed mail fraud by advertising the reproducer, accepting the order, > cashing the check and never shipping the product. > John Robles > > > > > From: Steven Medved > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet > > > > > > Hello, > > I am trying to contact Rob, the e-mail I have did not work. > > Steve > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
I would be looking up the MSDS for whatever thinner you would like to use. The idea is to thin the boiled linseed oil to the point it penetrates into the wood and once the solvent vaporizes the remaining oil will oxidize to a solid. "White spirit" is not real nice stuff. The majority of these solvents are one of the various forms of hydrocarbon that have been found to have an adverse impact on humans. The gum turpentine is the least offensive of the bunch. On 05/25/2012 01:07 PM, Philip Carli wrote: Would "white spirit", which is made in a nearly-odorless form, work with boiled linseed oil in a less stinking way than turpentine and seal wood effectively? From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of Ron L'Herault [lhera...@bu.edu] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:16 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment I wonder if a slightly thinned latex paint would be the answer. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Philip Carli Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:09 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment Is there any other substance less odorous than real turpentine that could be used with llinseed oil as a sealing mixture - or is there any other combination of ingredients (save silicone caulk or similar items of synthetic nature) that might be combined that the odors and airborne pollutants would dissipate relatively quickly? From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of DanKj [ediso...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment From this list, 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/msg04883.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
Boiled linseed oil and real turpentine if not slathered on like mayo on a roll will penetrate and the turps will vaporize in a couple of days. There is not much else that will work to get the linseed oil into the wood as turpentine is produced from the wood. You could experiment with DMSO as if it thins the linseed then it will also work and it does not have an odor. Oil paint thinner (VM&P Naphtha) will work but that is benzine. On 05/25/2012 12:16 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: I wonder if a slightly thinned latex paint would be the answer. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Philip Carli Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:09 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment Is there any other substance less odorous than real turpentine that could be used with llinseed oil as a sealing mixture - or is there any other combination of ingredients (save silicone caulk or similar items of synthetic nature) that might be combined that the odors and airborne pollutants would dissipate relatively quickly? From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of DanKj [ediso...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment From this list, 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/msg04883.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
Would "white spirit", which is made in a nearly-odorless form, work with boiled linseed oil in a less stinking way than turpentine and seal wood effectively? From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of Ron L'Herault [lhera...@bu.edu] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:16 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment I wonder if a slightly thinned latex paint would be the answer. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Philip Carli Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:09 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment Is there any other substance less odorous than real turpentine that could be used with llinseed oil as a sealing mixture - or is there any other combination of ingredients (save silicone caulk or similar items of synthetic nature) that might be combined that the odors and airborne pollutants would dissipate relatively quickly? From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of DanKj [ediso...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment From this list, 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/msg04883.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
I wonder if a slightly thinned latex paint would be the answer. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Philip Carli Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:09 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment Is there any other substance less odorous than real turpentine that could be used with llinseed oil as a sealing mixture - or is there any other combination of ingredients (save silicone caulk or similar items of synthetic nature) that might be combined that the odors and airborne pollutants would dissipate relatively quickly? From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of DanKj [ediso...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment From this list, 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/msg04883.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
Is there any other substance less odorous than real turpentine that could be used with llinseed oil as a sealing mixture - or is there any other combination of ingredients (save silicone caulk or similar items of synthetic nature) that might be combined that the odors and airborne pollutants would dissipate relatively quickly? From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of DanKj [ediso...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment From this list, 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/msg04883.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
This does read rather as damage to the instrument, once treated, would occur if placed in an unstable or climactically changing environment. From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of DanKj [ediso...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment From this list, 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/msg04883.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rude
Steve Great email! I'm a pastor and for a minute, thought I was reading my devotional app. Speak when your angry and you'll make the best speech you'll ever regret. I've been a collector since 1963, and one thing I've so appreciated are the quality and character of the majority of phono collectors. Thanks again Randy Larson On May 25, 2012 9:03 AM, "Steven Medved" wrote: > > There is never any excuse to be rude, period. Some people seem to think > they are the self appointed politeness police which is fine if they do it > in a polite way that is not offensive. > Advice is a gift, and you can do whatever you like with a gift. You do > not club someone over the head to get them to accept your gift, offer > advice to a wise man and he will appreciate it. > > If you want to type out a mean e-mail do it and wait the next day before > sending it out. > Peter was most correct, anything you send as e-mail will be there forever > so make certain the record you leave is one that reflects what you want to > about yourself. > You can tell how an eBay seller is by the negative feedback he left, those > that are descriptive and those that castigate attest to the character of > the seller. > I suggest when mailing to people OFF list that you add OFF LIST to the > subject and remember smart phones may not allow you to mail off list, mine > sent a private message to the list even though I removed the Phono-L and > put the person's e-mail in. > When someone fires you up remember we all have our days, the time when I > criticize others the most I find myself doing the same thing. > Steve Medved > I have had my share of being a moron. > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Rude
There is never any excuse to be rude, period. Some people seem to think they are the self appointed politeness police which is fine if they do it in a polite way that is not offensive. Advice is a gift, and you can do whatever you like with a gift. You do not club someone over the head to get them to accept your gift, offer advice to a wise man and he will appreciate it. If you want to type out a mean e-mail do it and wait the next day before sending it out. Peter was most correct, anything you send as e-mail will be there forever so make certain the record you leave is one that reflects what you want to about yourself. You can tell how an eBay seller is by the negative feedback he left, those that are descriptive and those that castigate attest to the character of the seller. I suggest when mailing to people OFF list that you add OFF LIST to the subject and remember smart phones may not allow you to mail off list, mine sent a private message to the list even though I removed the Phono-L and put the person's e-mail in. When someone fires you up remember we all have our days, the time when I criticize others the most I find myself doing the same thing. Steve Medved I have had my share of being a moron. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
