Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
These Edison oddities are very interesting. I have a Fireside with the
stenciling like you see on a Model A or B Standard. Also, I have a Model D home
with the earlier pin stripping and a Model B case. To me, these are more
interesting than the usual cookie cutter types.
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{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv6209500941 I thought it would be an F,
Edison used the F to get rid of a lot of left over parts. I have seen a Home
with a Triumph ID plate and a Home serial number, and during 1908 for a period
of time Edison made the B, C and D all at the same time so you see a lot of
variety. I have seen a Standard D with a B ID plate and the tall B case, a
maroon Gem with the block GEM decal, along with other variety and factory
defects.
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E I re-looked at my standard with the changed ID
tag. It now appears that the letter which looked like an "E"on further
inspection is actually an "F". The machine has a small top-mount reproducer
ring. This fits with the 2/4 gearing and cygnet horn. One wonders if original
buyers were ever sophisticated enough to recognize the differences between
models with all the factory changes. However, I would assume they would have
known what they wanted given the options of 2 and 4 minute reproduction.Art
Heller In a message dated 4/13/2017 10:09:50 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:
The picture that Randy posted looks identical to the Model F pictured in the
Frow book. It says the E had a side mount carriage arm with large opening for
a Model N reproducer, whereas the F had top mount carriage arm with a small
opening for C, H, R, or S reproducers. It says the Model E had a straight
paneled horn with a front mount crane, whereas the Model F had a cygnet horn
with a back mount crane bracket.
Also, the Standard Models D, E, and F all had both 2 and 4 minute gearing.
HOWEVER, on the Model E, the mechanism was blocked to keep it in 4-minute mode
all the time. If Randy found it was stuck in 4-minute mode, this would support
the E nameplate. Otherwise, everything else points to a Model F. Of course,
you never know what really happened at the Edison factory.
Jim Nichol
On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:29 PM, harvey kravitz via Phono-L
wrote:
It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly
a 4 min. machine.Harvey Kravitz
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I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia.Jamie
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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her
house in a fire with no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an
Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was
cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been
restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition
(except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady
get back on her feet. The chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays
beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would
go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. ThanksRandy Larson
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
OK, That makes sense. George Frow's book really explains the differences. From: Randy Larson via Phono-L To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E Sorry for the mix up, but I took a picture of the serial plate, and what looked to me as an E is an F model. On Apr 13, 2017 11:59 PM, "Randy Larson" wrote: It has an H with a small reproducer On Apr 13, 2017 10:01 PM, "harvey kravitz via Phono-L" wrote: Does it have an N reproducer and a large carriage? From: Randy Larson via Phono-L To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E It states on the ID plate it's an E. On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" wrote: Where is it located? Thanks In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly a 4 min. machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Jamie Kelly via Phono-L To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Cc: Jamie Kelly Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. Jamie From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson via Phono-L Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on her feet. The chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks Randy Larson | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/FN_z6QFgkyZ6pwp5YwBFWQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0ixfP0EIACx3UJW4JyFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjMuMTIxLjMzQgoAAN748FjgtK5aUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank. org __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/FN_z6QFgkyZ6pwp5YwBFWQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0ixfP0EIACx3UJW4JyFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjMuMTIxLjMzQgoAAN748FjgtK5aUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank. org __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/FN_z6QFgkyZ6pwp5YwBFWQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0ixfP0EIACx3UJW4JyFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjMuMTIxLjMzQgoAAN748FjgtK5aUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank. org __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/FN_z6QFgkyZ6pwp5YwBFWQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0ixfP0EIACx3UJW4JyFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjMuMTIxLjMzQgoAAN748FjgtK5aUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank.o rg __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/FN_z6QFgkyZ6pwp5YwBFWQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0ixfP0EIACx3UJW4JyFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjMuMTIxLjMzQgoAAN748FjgtK5aUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank.o rg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/FN_z6QFgkyZ6pwp5YwBFWQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0ixfP0EIACx3UJW4JyFXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjMuMTIxLjMzQgoAAN748FjgtK5aUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
Does it have the large carriage with the Model N reproducer? That is the correct, original configuration. From: Randy Larson via Phono-L To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E I can send a pic of the ID plate,if necessary On Apr 13, 2017 9:28 PM, "Randy Larson" wrote: It states on the ID plate it's an E. On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" wrote: Where is it located? Thanks In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly a 4 min. machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Jamie Kelly via Phono-L To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Cc: Jamie Kelly Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. Jamie From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcra nk.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson via Phono-L Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on her feet. The chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks Randy Larson | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/24pMdtgPy4b6IJnrqna1vA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0XD1P0EIACx3UAiOQ1ZXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAHU98FixS1kNUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank.o rg __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/24pMdtgPy4b6IJnrqna1vA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0XD1P0EIACx3UAiOQ1ZXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAHU98FixS1kNUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank.o rg __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/24pMdtgPy4b6IJnrqna1vA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0XD1P0EIACx3UAiOQ1ZXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAHU98FixS1kNUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank.o rg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/24pMdtgPy4b6IJnrqna1vA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0XD1P0EIACx3UAiOQ1ZXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAHU98FixS1kNUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
Does it have an N reproducer and a large carriage? From: Randy Larson via Phono-L To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E It states on the ID plate it's an E. On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" wrote: Where is it located? Thanks In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly a 4 min. machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Jamie Kelly via Phono-L To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Cc: Jamie Kelly Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison E I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. Jamie From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson via Phono-L Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Randy Larson Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on her feet. The chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks Randy Larson | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/5s2uU1rR-fg2skBuqb8a0g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0W7wP0EIACx3UWELsk9XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAAbzvwWHmoiSRSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEEmh0dHA6Ly9waG9uby1sLm9yZ0cCe30~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank. org __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/5s2uU1rR-fg2skBuqb8a0g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0W7wP0EIACx3UWELsk9XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAAbzvwWHmoiSRSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEEmh0dHA6Ly9waG9uby1sLm9yZ0cCe30~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank. org __ _ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/5s2uU1rR-fg2skBuqb8a0g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0W7wP0EIACx3UWELsk9XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAAbzvwWHmoiSRSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEEmh0dHA6Ly9waG9uby1sLm9yZ0cCe30~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscribe@oldcrank. org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/5s2uU1rR-fg2skBuqb8a0g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0W7wP0EIACx3UWELsk9XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAAbzvwWHmoiSRSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEEmh0dHA6Ly9waG9uby1sLm9yZ0cCe30~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly
a 4 min. machine.Harvey Kravitz
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I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia.Jamie
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Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was
cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been
restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition
(except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady
get back on her feet. The chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays
beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would
go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. ThanksRandy Larson
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Steve, I believe Wyatt has these reproduction elbows. It's been a while since I saw his listings.Good luck,Harvey Kravitz From: SN Medved via Phono-L To: phonolist ; "phono-l@oldcrank.org" Cc: SN Medved Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:37 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Opera elbow Hello, I am looking for and Opera horn elbow, reproduction is fine. Also the part that holds the horn elbow and the reproducer for an Opera. Thanks, Steve Medved steve_noreen at msn.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/nakZaNdhsgKYdkZeR_g5Yg~~/AABF2wA~/RgRasHYuP0EIACxk0rfndalXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA0zNS4xNjIuMTcyLjcwQgoAAK1Cz1iY0uAMUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] "Sprung" Platter
I have a VV 1-1, and here is how I removed the turntable. I would saturate the spindle with either penetrating oil, liquid wrench or Kroil. Let the oil seep into the spindle and the turntable. After a few hours, put a couple of small pry bars underneath the turn table. Do not force this Take a standard hammer and lightly tap the spindle. The turn table should pop off. You might have to use the oil in more than one application. The important thing is to be very gentle. These were very cheaply made machines, and delicate. This method will work on other machines with stuck turn tables.Harvey Kravitz From: John Selph via Phono-L To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: John Selph Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:15 PM Subject: [Phono-L] "Sprung" Platter Anyone know of a way to repair a “sprung” platter? Apparently someone attempted to remove the platter on a VV 1-1 by prying and the platter is now warped. I was thinking of possibly using a press to apply pressure and placing a tack weld on the “high” side of the platter/hub connection. Would this work?Thanks.John "Once in the wilds of Afghanistan I lost my corkscrew, and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days." W. C. Fields ___ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtech.com/f/a/PuFb30IDDKmWHBLD6rQfxA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRaKzgcP0EIAGwjjdY_7VNXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb180YAw1Mi4zOS4xNTQuMTZCCgABnARKWG5T7otSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEEmh0dHA6Ly9waG9uby1sLm9yZ0cCe30~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated?
This motor was used in the higher range Sonora machines. Sonora used Swiss made parts.Harvey Kravitz From: DanKj via Phono-L To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: DanKj Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? I believe the long flat thing is the on-off mechanism, as on my VV2-65 - it's automatic when the tone-arm is moved to the outside. - Original Message - From: "Ron L'Herault via Phono-L" To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Cc: "Ron L'Herault" Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 2:17 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? > Don't remember if we can attach pics here but I tried anyhow. I'm trying > to > find out what this large Swiss made motor might have come out of. It is > missing its spindle and associated gear(s) and probably a few other bits > and > pieces. I think the long flat thing up the top is part of a mechanism to > tell how many records one can play on a winding. The two heavy metal > brackets came with it as well. > > Thanks, > > Ron L > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/HSpA2YOBjCVhkpz9MtT5kA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj3yhP0EIAOvVKuD6OJhXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAMgSa5XE2qDL1IYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAETuaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL2YvYS90cHhvcElLenFpaGs4UVpMWDM2c01Rfn4vQUFCRjJ3QX4vUmdSWmoyckNQMEVJQUd2V25hSzltMjFYQTNOd1kxZ0VBQUFBQUZrR2MyaGhjbVZrWVFoemRHRnVaR0Z5WkdBTk5USXVNell1TVRJM0xqSXlORUlLQUFGQ042NVhqV2U5X0ZJWGFHRnlkbVY1YTNKaGRtbDBla0I1WVdodmJ5NWpiMjBKVVFRQUFBQUFSQkpvZEhSd09pOHZjR2h2Ym04dGJDNXZjbWRIQW50OUcCe30~ > Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/HSpA2YOBjCVhkpz9MtT5kA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj3yhP0EIAOvVKuD6OJhXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAMgSa5XE2qDL1IYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAETuaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL2YvYS90cHhvcElLenFpaGs4UVpMWDM2c01Rfn4vQUFCRjJ3QX4vUmdSWmoyckNQMEVJQUd2V25hSzltMjFYQTNOd1kxZ0VBQUFBQUZrR2MyaGhjbVZrWVFoemRHRnVaR0Z5WkdBTk5USXVNell1TVRJM0xqSXlORUlLQUFGQ042NVhqV2U5X0ZJWGFHRnlkbVY1YTNKaGRtbDBla0I1WVdodmJ5NWpiMjBKVVFRQUFBQUFSQkpvZEhSd09pOHZjR2h2Ym04dGJDNXZjbWRIQW50OUcCe30~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed
I think George V's prices are reasonable.I have dealt with him for many years,
and he has always been square with me. He provides a great service that we
need. Without him, how are you going to complete that phonograph??Harvey
Kravitz
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Cc: Grant Kornberg
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed
I actually think George's prices are quite reasonable, all things considered.
He consistently provides honest, outstanding service, and he invests in a broad
range of inventory items, despite the fact that he may not be able to turn many
of them over for months or in certain cases even years.
-- Grant
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Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed
Not yet. I usually try the collector network first. George has an amazing
array of hard-to-find parts, and I've purchased many things from him in the
past and will again in the future, but the prices tend to be high. Of course
when you really need something, price is less of an object.
John
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed
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Ron L From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of John
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Subject: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed Anyone got a pointer for a model K
or S reproducer? The little pointer that you turn the sapphires with. Thanks!
John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Happy Holidays!
Thanks Loren. Merry Christmas to you, also.Harvey Kravitz From: Loran Hughes via Phono-L To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: Loran Hughes Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:30 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Happy Holidays! Merry Christmas to the Phono-L’ers out there! Be sure to let us know what phono things Santa brings you this year… Regards, Loran a.k.a. The Management ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Happy Thanksgiving
I want to wish the membership a Happy Thanksgiving. Take time out to reflect for what we are thankful for, especially Phonographs.Harvey Kravitz
Re: [Phono-L] Veteran's Day
I have one on my VFW hat. :)Harvey Kravitz
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Veteran's Day
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poppy! Jim Cartwright
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Subject: [Phono-L] Veteran's Day I want to wish the membership of this Forum a
wonderful Veteran's Day. Please take time to think about the sacrifices our men
and women made so we can enjoy the freedoms that we take for granted. Also,
play your patriotic disk and cylinder records to reflect the meaning of
Veteran's Day.Harvey Kravitz
[Phono-L] Veteran's Day
I want to wish the membership of this Forum a wonderful Veteran's Day. Please take time to think about the sacrifices our men and women made so we can enjoy the freedoms that we take for granted. Also, play your patriotic disk and cylinder records to reflect the meaning of Veteran's Day.Harvey Kravitz
[Phono-L] Want To Buy Or trade Columbia BE Lid
I have a 2/4 min. Columbia BET that is missing the lid. If anyone has any to trade or sell, please let me know. Id doesn't matter if the handle is there or not. I have a handle.Harvey Kravitz
Re: [Phono-L] My membership in the PhonoL list
The same thing happened to me. I re-established my membership. I hope the problem is solved. Harvey Kravitz On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:58 PM, Bill Burns wrote: Because of security changes made by AOL, most email lists will end up with bouncing messages for AOL subscribers. At the moment the only fix is to resubscribe to the list with a different email address - a free account at Gmail will work. Bill On 4/30/2014 10:24 PM, c5...@aol.com wrote: > I received the following message on 4/30. What do I need to do? > > Your membership in the mailing list Phono-L has been disabled due to > excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated > 29-Apr-2014. You will not get any more messages from this list until > you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like > this before your membership in the list is deleted. > > > > In a message dated 4/26/2014 3:42:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lo...@oldcrank.com writes: > > It's legit, Tom. It looks like something is going on with Phono-L emails > getting to MSN. I'll go in and re-enable you. > > Regards, > Loran > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Tom Jordan wrote: > >> Loran, >> I received what looks like a spam or phishing e-mail saying that my >> membership in the group had been disabled due to excessive bounces. I >> didn't open that e-mail yet. Can you tell me if it was legitimate or if > I >> should respond or delete it? I enjoy my membership in the group and > would >> like to retain it. >> Thank you. >> Tom ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] WANTED Harvard 4A Talking Machine Support Arm
I know this is a long shot, but I'm going to try. I have a Harvard 4A Talking machine that is missing the support arm. This is the fancy case one similar to a Columbia AH. It uses the long arm. I have everything but the support arm. I have a complete set of the smaller arms for now, untill I can get this completed. I don't care if this is original or a repro. JAS antiques, who took over from the Smith's doesn't have one. Any leads will be greatly appreciated. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steve Medved Repair
Steve has done repairs on my reproducers. He is the best in the business and so reasonable. I can see why he is so swamped. He is a true asset to the hobby. Harvey Kravitz On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:12 PM, Bill Taney wrote: Had my O done by Steve, I have another I should send him.. I concur, the job he does is fantastic.. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2014, at 3:23 PM, john robles wrote: > > Hello all > Just wanted to tell you (as if I had to) of the marvelous repair Steve Medved > did on my Edison Model O reproducer. It sounded fine from the time I got it > on ebay, but the stem broke free from the stylus bar assembly, and it turned > out it had been repaired before (badly). Steve recognized the reproducer by > its number 9he told me he records serial numbered reproducers that appear on > ebay) and it had been auctioned by a man who told Steve that he had > completely rebuilt it. Whoever bought it from him put it back on ebay 6 > months later, which is when I bought it. I suspect they did the bad repair > and were trying to get rid of it. > Steve took a new stem made by (Is it public knowledge, Steve?) which is just > like the original, and made the repair, which involved much more than just > gluing it in. He also salvaged the original indicator knob and pointer from > my original O and applied that to it! He polished the diaphragm, which > gleams like new, and made it airtight, which it was not before. > > The reproducer sounds excellent, works just like new. Thanks Steve, for > another high quality repair. I give you 5 stars! > John Robles > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Standard Talking Machine for sale
Joe, I don't know how to get your personal email, but I am interested in the Standard. Contact me harveykrav...@yahoo.com with shipping and the particulars. Harvey Kravitz On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:31 PM, Joe Filer wrote: I am offering this up cheap, for someone that has a horn and reproducer. This Standard Talking Machine X has a decent oak case with nice decal, running motor, original crank, turntable, and traveling arm. Email for pics. Needs some cleaning up, but $150 takes it all. Shipping will be in a carefully packed box and shipped from Florida. I will not overcharge, and likely will go via USPS. Thanks, Joe Filer ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pics of repro Vic VI cabinets and disc cabinets form Peru
Does this guy make the ID tags for a Victor VI? Harvey Kravitz On Monday, March 31, 2014 12:33 AM, john robles wrote: Hello all Here is a link to the cabinets made by Eduardo Portilla in Lima, Peru. http://s197.photobucket.com/user/john9ten/library/Victor%20VI%20Repro%20Cabinets He is a phonograph collector of 20 years experience. He makes the Victor VI machine cabinet and also two models of disc cabinet, the "Cabinet that Matches" and the rare Herzog 820 cabinet. I have personally seen the Vic VI cabinet and the "Cabinet that Matches" model. The "Cabinet that Matches" models were also made for the Vic IV and Vic V, I don't know what others it may have been made for. I am amazed at the quality of even the needle cups in the "Cabinet that Matches" model. Enjoy the pics! I will post a separate email and link for the horns. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Opera Horn from Peru and Opera horn restoration
To the best of my knowledge, he does exact ones. He made a spruce horn for my Edison Idelia that is an exact copy. The unfinished horn was sent to Steve Farmer who finished the horn and applied Greg Cline decals. It is indistinguishable to the original except it's newer looking. The whole machine was restored, so the horn matches everything with the Idelia. Harvey Kravitz On Friday, March 28, 2014 1:08 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: Hi Bill, I would have the original horn restored. The man to do it is Don Gfell. He restores wooden horns and makes new ones. A couple of years ago, he made a spruce horn for my Edison Idealia. Harvey Kravitz On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:47 AM, John Robles wrote: Does Don do exact repro horns?? I have seen some of his horns that are fanciful and pretty, but does he do spearpoints etc?? John > On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Darrell Lehman wrote: > > Don Gfell in Ohio does excellent work - http://www.edisonman.com/ > > > Bill Taney wrote: >> Anyone have or have an opinion on these Opera horns from Peru? How are they >> in terms of a repro compared to what else is available? >> >> Also, I am wondering who is the best wizard are restoring the original horn. >> I have an Opera that came out of a farm auction in MN and the guy was quite >> handy and tried a go at fixing it. It has the original decals the rest of >> the horn has at least been lightened and reglued, maybe refinished. It’s not >> bad, actually the bell looks good from a distance, but it is splitting. The >> elbo he spray painted brown. Interestingly didn’t touch the rest of the >> machine, it is completely original and super nice. >> >> Thanks >> Bill >> >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> . > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Opera Horn from Peru and Opera horn restoration
Hi Bill, I would have the original horn restored. The man to do it is Don Gfell. He restores wooden horns and makes new ones. A couple of years ago, he made a spruce horn for my Edison Idealia. Harvey Kravitz On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:47 AM, John Robles wrote: Does Don do exact repro horns?? I have seen some of his horns that are fanciful and pretty, but does he do spearpoints etc?? John > On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Darrell Lehman wrote: > > Don Gfell in Ohio does excellent work - http://www.edisonman.com/ > > > Bill Taney wrote: >> Anyone have or have an opinion on these Opera horns from Peru? How are they >> in terms of a repro compared to what else is available? >> >> Also, I am wondering who is the best wizard are restoring the original horn. >> I have an Opera that came out of a farm auction in MN and the guy was quite >> handy and tried a go at fixing it. It has the original decals the rest of >> the horn has at least been lightened and reglued, maybe refinished. It’s not >> bad, actually the bell looks good from a distance, but it is splitting. The >> elbo he spray painted brown. Interestingly didn’t touch the rest of the >> machine, it is completely original and super nice. >> >> Thanks >> Bill >> >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> . > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?
I have that same machine in oak. I don't have my catalog handy, but I think it's an Elite, the fourth one down from the Invincible(the highest). My fittings are nickel plated. I can't tell by yours if the hardware is nickel or gold. Sonora Bombe style machines are scarce in Oak. There is a picture of one on the cover of Discovering Antique Phonographs by Tim Fabrizio and George Paul. Harvey Kravitz On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:16 PM, Richard wrote: Can anyone tell me which model of Sonora phonograph this is? It looks to be one of their higher-end bombe machines, but I've always had trouble identifying particular Sonora models. If it is a higher-end machine, should I be surprised that it doesn't have a wooden tone arm? (Do those wooden tone arms really sound better, for that matter?) And am I the only one who's never seen a Sonora in oak before? It seems to me every one I've ever seen has been mahogany. Thoughts?Oh, and if anyone has one of these and would like to share photos of it, I'd appreciate it; I'm especially curious about what it's supposed to look like with the doors open. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mystery sonora.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 31338 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20140319/b6195a43/attachment.jpg> ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] NEW ITEMS FOR SALE
Wow, This reminds of the Carol Burnett Show. She did a soap opera parody, As The Stomach Turns. I'm on the edge of my chair to see the outcome. I'd better get some coffee. It's going to be a long night. Harvey Kravitz On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:44 PM, Bob Maffit wrote: *smile* I enjoyed it as well Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Peter Fraser Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:18 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] NEW ITEMS FOR SALE Oh I'm sure most of us enjoyed watching the whole tableau unfold on a slow winters' day. I know I did. Such drama! Which Ken will get it? Do both Kens actually want it? Is the Ken that wants it the same Ken that Shawn thinks the Ken is? And what does Ken think the other Ken is thinking? Since the H is gone, will Shawn offer the other Ken a K? Can the Kens do the Can-Can? Now, where's my medication? I know I left it here someplace. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com > On Mar 12, 2014, at 1:46 PM, mshawnorou...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank you Jim > > > I apologize to the list. > > > Shawn > > > > > > > Michael Shawn O'Rourke > 248 915 0954 > > > > > > From: Jim Nichol > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:19 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > > > > > > Shawn, the reason you and Ken D. are confused is that this entire transaction > was conducted publicly on Phonolist. That isn't a problem, except that Shawn > and Ken Danckaert (and possibly Ken Ogden) didn't know that. So no, Shawn did > not accidentally send an email to Ken Danckaert. > > Remember, everyone. Any time you reply to a message from Phonolist, it goes > out to everyone. This is in spite of the fact that an individual's email > address appears in the header of each message. > > Jim Nichol > >> On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:33 PM, >> wrote: >> >> Sorry Ken. I am confused. Phonoken bought the reproducer around 11:03 >> today. I am not sure how I got your email. I apologize. >> >> >> Shawn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Shawn O'Rourke >> 248 915 0954 >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Ken Danckaert >> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:55 PM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Shawn, >> >> Phonoken is not me. I am kendphono. >> >> Ken Danckaert >> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Ken. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll mark it sold to you. I can ship it priority to a US address, with >>> insurance for 8.35. So the total would be $113.35. >>> >>> >>> Shoot me your address and I'll get it boxed up and mark it sold. >>> >>> >>> Shawn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael Shawn O'Rourke >>> 248 915 0954 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: phono...@aol.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:44 AM >>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Not sure my reply was received. I would like to buy the reproducer. >>> Please send total due and your mailing address. Thanks >>> Ken Ogden >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: phonoken >>> To: phono-l >>> Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:03 am >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] NEW ITEMS FOR SALE >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll take the Model H reproducer. Please provide total due and your >>> mailing >>> address. Thanks >>> Ken Ogden >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: mshawnorourke >>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>> Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:19 am >>> Subject: [Phono-L] NEW ITEMS FOR SALE >>> >>> >>> EDISON MODEL H: A very nice Edison model H reproducer. This one retains >>> most of >>> its original green stain. These reproducers were stained Green to allow the >>> owners to distinguish between the Edison H and the Edison C. This one plays >>> wonderfully. I replaced the limit loop which was missing when I received >>> it. The >>> >>> ori
[Phono-L] Fw: Fwd: surrealPhotosALOHA.pps
Check out slide 36 on these surreal pictures. Another use for crap-o-phone parts. Harvey Kravitz On Friday, February 14, 2014 2:22 PM, Jerry O'Connor wrote: ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Finally a good use for a crapophone
That was funny. I loved it!! Harvey Kravitz On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:05 AM, David Dazer wrote: What a riot! Thanks for sharing! Makes you feel kind of bad for radio collectors. Our stuff is so much more fun! Dave From: Ron L'Herault To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:09 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Finally a good use for a crapophone Saw this on Facebook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx4Em17CLDk It uses a crapophone as a "potter's wheel" but instead of clay the presenter is using ice cream! Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Columbia Longthroat Reproducer With Thumbscrew
I'm looking for a Columbia longthroat reproducer with the thumbscrew. This has the same body as the typical longthroat, but with a thumbscrew instead of the spring loaded lever. This is for a top wind AJ that I'm restoring. Thanks in advance for any leads. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] A New Year's Gift from The Antique Phonograph Society
Will this book be published in a hardbound edition? I hope so. It will be a good book to have. Happy New Year to everyone, Harvey Kravitz On Friday, December 27, 2013 10:00 AM, George Paul wrote: Happy New Year, everyone! :) I'm happy to announce that, through the hard work and generosity of Mr. R.J. Wakeman, The Antique Phonograph Society has made available on our website www.antiquephono.org his entire (heretofore unpublished) 380-page book entitled, Brunswick Phonographs, Panatropes, and Records. Simply go to the Antique Phonograph Society website (http://www.antiquephono.org), click on the "Articles" header, then select "Book Feature" from the drop-down menu. Click on the cover image and the entire book will then download in a few moments. We are most grateful to Mr. Wakeman for his outstanding research and compilation on Brunswick - one of the major brands in the North America. We are also pleased and proud that Mr. Wakeman chose to make this significant resource available to collectors and sound historians through the Antique Phonograph Society. We think when you see Mr. Wakeman's book, you'll agree that this is the "bible" for Brunswick. We hope those interested in Brunswick Phonographs, Panatropes, and Records will enjoy the book, and we trust that it will serve as a valuable resource for decades to come. Watch the APS website for additional surprises over the next few weeks! :) We Wish a Very Happy, Healthy, and Prosperous New Year to the Phonograph Collecting Community from The Antique Phonograph Society. George Paul ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
I want to wish the gang at Phono-L a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Prosperous New Year. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Just in time for Christmas... Edison Phonograph No.6
That was posted on another forum. A real piece of crap. For this price, I think the seller is smoking crack. Harvey Kravitz On Monday, December 23, 2013 2:04 PM, "clockworkh...@aol.com" wrote: Seasons Greetings: For only $1,000 you can own an Edison Phonograph No.6 now on eBay! How some sellers can offer things without knowing a thing about them is beyond me. This Amberola 30 has the very rare 'oil spout funnel' horn. It would be funny but this seller really thinks the thing is worth the $1,000 opening bid. If someone bites then I will be truly astounded. See eBay item # 281232163262 Merry Christmas to all, may you find something with a crank handle under the tree, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Another Edison Invention - "The Bug"
The link is no good. Harvey Kravitz On Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:53 AM, "srsel...@aol.com" wrote: >From today's Wall Street Journal: _Who Coined the Term 'System Bug'? Look to Thomas Edison - WSJ.com_ (http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB100014240527023039325045792526716204121 80-lMyQjAxMTAzMDEwNDExNDQyWj) Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Happy Thanksgiving
I wanted to wish everybody a Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy the turkey and your cylinder records, DD's, 78's, and Pathe. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victrola Found!
Hi John, That was a terrific find. Enjoy it well. Harvey Kravitz On Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:52 AM, john robles wrote: I'd like to know what it is Rick! Can you upload pics of yours? From: rick To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victrola Found! I have a VV-350 too John. They are nice machines. I don't remember the serial number on mine, but I can find out. -Original Message- From: john robles To: phonolist Sent: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 5:07 am Subject: [Phono-L] Rare Victrola Found! Hello all realize that I have not posted on my latest find. I saw an ad for a local state sale that included a Victrola. I checked out the photo and I knew it as not a common one. It was not the classic Victrola with the deeply carved corners and nickel lating. It had more strict, straight lines and no curves. The veneer n the front was in a V shaped grain pattern, and the cabinet on the hole looked almost more like a British made cabinet. called the sale coordinator to ask the price, and she said she would have it ater in that same day. She never called back, and I left messages to no vail. So last Sunday morning (10/5) I drove the hour to Simi Valley, where the ale was taking place. My partner and I joined a line of about 30 people and aited to get in. When they opened the house and garage doors, I saw it at the ack of the garage. They were only letting 25 people at a time in, and luckily I as number 25. I went in and checked it out, and then had my partner wait with t while I went into the house to find the coordinator and ask price. While in he house I spotted another high profile collector and my heart sank. I thought would have to go home empty handed. He greeted me, and told me that the price as too retail for him (he purchases for resale) and my hope was restored! I ound the coordinator and asked the price. She told me, and keeping in mind that he said the house was sold and everything had to go that day, I counter offered ith the highest figure I could pay (which was $200 less than the asking rice). She countered with a figure that was $50 higher than my offer, and I ccepted. Luckily my partner had a $20 bill on him or I would not have been ble to buy it!. We loaded it up and made the drive home, very carefully! n to the phonograph - it was a Victrola 350, made in mid 1924 and discontinued n early 1925. It was made to appeal to the more affluent, as its design and old plating indicates, and it came with a full set of albums (missing from this ne). From the Victor Data Book it appears that only 878 were made, with serial umber starting at 501. This example is number 802, indicating that it is the 01st manufactured. It was exciting to hear from Bob Baumbach that he has only een one other of these machines. ere is a link to the photos. ttp://s197.photobucket.com/user/john9ten/library/Victrola%20350 ohn Robles __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Viva-Tonal 810 Photo Needed
Bob, I hope this book will be available in a hard bound copy. If so, that will be great, and I will order one. Harvey Kravitz From: RBaumbach To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Viva-Tonal 810 Photo Needed I have attached a color image of the Columbia 810. BTW, this image, along with a number of other color images, is in the new edition of the Columbia Phonograph Companion - Volume II. There is more information about the new edition here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/columbia-phonograph-companion/id658141249?mt=11 Robert Baumbach On Sep 22, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Jim Cartwright wrote: > In collecting antique phonographs, I like to obtain "twins," that is similar > but not identical models. Some years ago I obtained a Viva-Tonal 800 > which not too long ago was sonically restored using information & > suggestions provided by Anthony Sinclair carried out by local antique > phonograph repairman, Jeff Cecil & now gives excellent performance. So I > was please to pick up its "twin," the Viva-Tonal 810 at an antique mall > yesterday. However, the 810 has been stripped & is bereft of its original > different color wood staining of different sections of the front doors, > floral design above the doors, etc. & I want to have its original appearance > restored. The Viva-Tonal 810 came with a 1927 ad that gives some idea of > how it originally looked as does the black-and-white illustration in > Baumbach's The Columbia Phonograph Companion - Volume II. However, what > is needed to facilitate restoration of the decorative details is a clear > color image of the Vival-Tonal 810. Can anyone provide such? > > > > Many thanks for any help any of you may provide! > > > > > > Jim Cartwright > > IMMORTAL PERFORMANCES, INC > > "Austin's Eclectic Used Record Store Since 1971" > > 1404 West 30th Street Austin, Texas 78703-1402 USA > > (512) 478-9954 E-mail: jim...@earthlink.net > > > > > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3917 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20130922/c4a120e3/attachment.jpe> > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2023 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20130922/c4a120e3/attachment-0001.jpe> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone?
>From what I can see the parts are from a later Victor III. The cabinet looks >old and original, but not to a Victor III. Did you take off the turn table to >see if there were multiple holes in the motor board? If so, that would mean a >swapped motor. If not, the cabinet can be new old stock that was modified by >the original owner, a dealer, or a handyman. If there are no extra holes in >the cabinet, I would strip and refinish it. It would be a very unique machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci To: Phono-l ; "phonol...@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? Hello Everyone, Last night, Nick an I won an interesting phonograph at a local junk auction. Someone has spray painted the entire cabinet gold...inside and out! The double spring motor looks to be from a Victor III, the turntable and the upper works appear to be from a Victor III and it came with a ID plate (tacked inside the cabinet) that indicates it is indeed a Victor III. It also came with a nice original wood horn. The problem is, we have never seen a Victor cabinet with this design before. After quite a bit of research, we found that the Vic III came in two cabinet types and neither of them match this one, not even close! We own a late style Victor III to compare it to and it is definitely not the same. Strange. The wood under the terrible gold paint looks old and the back bracket looks to be correct. So we need to find out, is this a Frankenphone made up of Victor III parts with a handmade cabinet or a cabinet from a different machine? I was unable to find any cabinets with the kind of moldings this one has. Here are a few links to pictures we just took. Any ideas are greatly appreciated! http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09701.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09702.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09703.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09704.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09705.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09706.jpg.html Thanks, Melissa ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Dating Victor Exhibition Reproducers
A few months ago. I purchased a late model Victor E, S/N 55114. There are only 2 holes in the back of the case, so it was set up as a rear mount. I'm guessing this machine is from 1904-5.The reproducer that came with the machine is S/N 350479. This reproducer is original to the machine. The nickel plating and aging are consistent with the rest of the machine. The needle bar has the triangular hole for fiber needles. My guess that the reproducer was upgraded after 1909 after the triangular fiber needles were introduced. Originally, this reproducer would have had a round hole in the needle bar, and round knurled nuts. This leads to several questions about the Victor Exhibition reproducer. Is there a data chart with breakdowns of S/N's with dates? When did Victor switch to the hex nuts, but still retained the round hole? When did Victor use the spring loaded clamp, similar to the Columbia analyzing reproducer? When did Victor start using suffixes, like A after the S/N on their reproducers? Thanks in advance for any information on this. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name
I also disagree with the merger. Each organization is unique in it's own way. Both publications are great. ITG focuses on all phonographs, even ones from the 1950's, and The Sound Box covers the earlier ones. I know Steve already said that. I like ITG because it has different writers than the Sound Box. I like the free want adds, chapter news, how to articles, foreign machines by Anthony Sinclair. and the many other different articles. Both publications do not overlap. I also like the 6 issues as opposed to 4 issues of Sound Box. Even though I'm opposed to the 2 clubs merging, I know that they will judging from the consensus. If they merge, I hope the new publication will have the features of ITG. What ever is best for the hobby. Harvey Kravitz From: Jim Nichol To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name I've never thought that "In the Groove" meant anything specific about our hobby, and is not a good way to recruit members. For instance, use Google to search for "The Antique Phonograph", and you get our website on the 1st page of results. If you do a Google search on "In the Groove", you don't get a hit until the 9th PAGE of results (long after most people would give up). Jim Nichol On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Paul Christenzen wrote: > Disagree!!! Nothing wrong with a good cliche (IF it even is one), > historically significant, recognized world-wide and makes a good acronym. > > Paul Christenzen, simple-minded collector > > > Bruce wrote: >> OK, I'll step up to be the first person to disagree with Steve. >> >> When the improvements were being made to the former CAPS publication, "The >> Sound Box", concurrent with the name change to the organization, we wanted a >> name for the publication that would speak to the stature of its quality. >> Names like "The Sound Box" seemed too much like a cliché that fell far short >> of the quality of the product. "In the Groove" as a publication name, >> regardless of its age, falls short as well. >> >> Bruce Peterson - former CAPS/APS president >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On >> Behalf Of Melissa Ricci >> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:26 AM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and >> successorpublication name >> >> Well said, Steve! I agree 100% >> >> Melissa >> >> >> >> From: "srsel...@aol.com" >> To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:37 AM >> Subject: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successor publication >> name >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am posting this to both Phonolist and Phono-L -- the two listserves I >> subscribe to. >> Those of you who belong to the Antique Phonograph Sovciety (formerly known >> as the Calif. APS) should have received a letter in the mail this week (or >> will shortly -- mine came yesterday) detailing the proposed merger of the >> APS with MAPS effective January 1, 2014, (I'm guessing MAPS members will >> get >> something soon.). I was told that there was a preliminary meeting of >> members held at the Union show lat month, though no mention was made in any >> >> reports of the show on either of these lists. So the mailing from CAPS was >> the >> first formal document I saw. >> As outlined in the letter, the two organizations are often serving the >> same group with 160 members (of MAPS' 607 and APS's 400 members belonging >> to >> both. Economically it makes sense because postage to mail each society's >> magazine/journal is the biggest cost. By combining memberships, there would >> >> be one dues and this might attract more members. (Side note here: Every >> person on these newsgroups should belong to at least one of these >> organizations to support the hobby.). >> The plan is to take the best of both magazines and combine into one. >> Currently APS's magazine focuses on pre-electric phonographs and and some >> recordings -- mostly pre-1910 -- while ITG (MAPs' magazine) covers recording >> artists as well as reissues of pre-Lp era recordings. (As most of you know, >> I >> have contributed a monthly -- now bi-monthly -- column, "Anything >> Phonographic" >
[Phono-L] Victor I or E elbow
I am looking for a decent Victor I or E elbow. Please contact me off list. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor I question
The later Victor I from 1909 -20, or later used a larger case. They used the same tone arm and elbow as a Victor II. I have a Victor I from 1910 that has the larger case 12"x 12", and uses the 10" steel turntable. This has a Victor II bracket, arm, and elbow, and everything aligns perfectly. Is your Victor I the early one with a small case, or the larger one like mine? Harvey Kravitz From: Tim Fabrizio To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor I question The Victor I used back-bracket/elbow parts UNIQUE to it. Parts from other machines can not be substituted. There is some anecdotal evidence to suggest that in the period 1915 - 1920 those small numbers of Victor I's being produced may finally have acquired back-brackets virtually identical to contemporary Victor II's, but these machines are extremely rare and therefore do not enter into the discussion. Best wishes, Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 747 Henrietta, NY 14467 TEL 585 582 1586 Web site: www.phonophan.com -Original Message- From: Bob Maffit To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Sat, Feb 23, 2013 12:07 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Victor I question Phono List: Are the back-bracket and tone arm from a Victor I & II interchangeable? Are the parts needed interchangeable from other machines workable as well? later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Happy New Year (a little early)
Thank you so much Curt. Happy New Year to you guys, also. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:23 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Happy New Year (a little early) After surviving 2012 and an attempt to wipe out the whole human race by the Mayans, all I can say is I am ready for the new year to begin. Happy 2013 from all of us at CAMPS - Carolina Antique Music & Phonograph Society. In the event you have nothing better to do, we invite you to wander over to www.carolinaphonosociety.com for some fireworks and other strangely entertaining amusements... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA?
I have seen this machine in other phonograph forums. I think it is a fake and I'd hate to see some be suckered into a purchase. Harvey Kravitz From: Steven Medved To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? Hello Tim, I did not know he entertained the troops after 1940, I sent the link in the event someone else was like me. The thought of a major star using a ten year old portable is very funny to me. In my mind I see him lip syncing to his mammy song and his special assistant winding the victrola changing the needle after each record. You should write a book on all the personally owned items. Thanks so much, Steve > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: phonop...@aol.com > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:46:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? > > Of course Al Jolson entertained the troops in the 1940s. But if you think he > was carrying around a 10-plus-year-old portable Victrola, then I guess he > wasn't getting paid the kind of money his staredom would have merited. (Not > getting paid to entertain the troops, but getting paid from his other > entrainment activities to be able to afford a new Victrola.) > > TF > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Medved > To: phono-l > Sent: Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:37 pm > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SinJgcJQhII > > http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-NA001477.jpg?size=67&uid=dbb4b702-f7fe-420c-aa83-03a587d44190 > > Looks like he had a live piano player. > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > From: phonop...@aol.com > > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:27:22 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? > > > > > > What troops, exactly, was Al Jolson entertaining? We were not at war > 1919-1941, and had relatively small armed forces during that period. > > > > If I told you the number of Edison Phonographs and other objects that were > "personally owned" by Thomas Edison over the past 43 years, you'd be > surprised > --- or not! > > > > Tim Fabrizio > > phonophan > > PO Box 747 > > Henrietta, NY 14467 > > > > TEL 585 582 1586 > > Web site: www.phonophan.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steven Medved > > To: phono-l ; phonolist > > Sent: Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:29 pm > > Subject: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/AL-JOLSONS-VICTOR-2-65-ORTHOPHONIC-VICTROLA-/181049044024 > > > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Happy Thanksgiving
I want to wish all members a Happy Thanksgiving. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
I have this record, also. I'd like to know the purpose of the record and the history of it. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? A few days ago, I posted this inquiry about an unusual Columbia record that I found. Someone out there must know something about this record and its history... Here are pics of the front and back: http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site#!__columbia-record Any info would be appreciated, Curt > From: vinyl.visi...@live.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:10:35 -0500 > Subject: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? > > > I found a 12" one sided Columbia record which has a picture of Kaiser Wilhelm > II on the label, with the phrases "Gruss an den Kaiser" - (Greetings to the > Emperor) and "Gott mit uns" - (God with us). The number is 59408 - last > patent date is Nov. 30, 1909 and the title is: "Dem Deutschen Kaiser Gewidmet > Von Dem Mozart-Verein in New York" - (Dedicated to the German Emperor Of The > Mozart Club in New York). The label is a very detailed and attractive one and > the record was made in the US - I can provide pics if necessary. Does anyone > have any info to shed some light on this? > Curt Angstman > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Happy Halloween
I Just want to wish everyone a Happy Halloween. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question
The Victrola XII crank is a female crank. The same motor is totaly differant than a Vic V or VI motor. Harvey Kravitz From: Bob Maffit To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question phono listers: First I would like to thank all of those on the list who have responded to my various requests for information & parts. I get a little lost in all of the E-mails and do miss some of them in terms of replying with a "thanks". So here is my "blanket one for the recent past". *smile* Moving on: I obtained a Victor 12 which in the book, Looking For The Dog, it explains the 12 was made in 1909 and was a blend of the Victor VI & the Victor VV-XVI at the time. I bought it for the parts, in the event I ran across a Vic VI cabinet etc. I noticed the "crank" on the Victor 12 is a "male" type and it has been my experience the ones from the Victor VI & VV-Xvi I have are "female". The LFTD book doesn't address this question, so I am floating this out to phono-list land. thanks in advance later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Unmarked automatic
Is it that rare? What do Automatic reproducers go for anyway? Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Unmarked automatic I have a theory from looking at the bid history on this, that someone placed a proxy bid and some other ocd bidder kept tapping them up until it maxed outthen quit. The first bidder ended up second highest but still didn't win it. > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:50:33 -0400a > Subject: [Phono-L] Unmarked automatic > > the > http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/320982440359 > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-Antique-Unsigned-Automatic-Reproducer-for-Edison-phonograph-/320982440359 > Does anyone know why this went so high? > Steve > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...
David, What you need is a 5-40 set screw 1/4" long. don't forget to get the right size Allen wrench for it. Harvey Kravitz From: David Barnett To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: [Phono-L] A tale of woe... It was like a scene from an old movie. I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in just about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure it still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear piece from the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too much while working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes watching in horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the workbench, the chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to stop it's merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the workbench while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out dialog line: "Oooohhh No" So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece with the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know I'm sometimes klutsy). Thanks for hearing my tale of woe. David David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com C: 516-398-8668 www.FairLibertysCall.com 3 Ike Place Woodmere, NY 11598 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Very Sad News
Thank you Brice, for letting me know. I will really miss Bob and all of the wonderful things he has done for our hobby. Years ago, Bob had the parts I needed to restore a Victrola Credenza. I always enjoyed seeing his wonderful collection and the hospitality of Karen. RIP Bob Harvey Kravitz From: brice paris To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:39 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Very Sad News I am very sad and upset that I must bring to you very sad news. Mr. Robert R. Johnson of the famous Mr. Victor Phonograph Museum, avid Oregon Duck fan and a friend to most of us in the phonograph world, was unable to beat the odds this time and passed away yesterday afternoon after a short illness. Bob was one of the most generous people that I have ever known, and I am sure that many of you have been on the receieving end of that at one time or another. He was always willing to take his time to help collectors and non collectors who contacted him with his knowledge of our hobby, often times giving parts to folks he really didn't know to help them put a machine together. He was a true gentleman who never let grass grow under his feet, he always kept moving. Words can not describe the shock and heavy hearts that Kathleen and I have loosing a friend such as Bob. Bob and Karen were inseparatable and always had a smile and greeting for anyone that they met. I ask that your thoughts and prayers go out to Karen and their two daughters Kelly and Keri as they attempt to deal with their loss. As many of you know when dealing with their personal lives they are relatively private. At this time, Karen has asked that you contact me directly with any phone calls and any questions and I will try my best to answer. I will also let everyone know when I have an address that they would want cards sent to or hear of what or if they are planning to have a Celebration of Life for Bob . He will be sorely missed by all of us. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone???
I find it interesting and fun. you can't take this hobby to seriously. Harvey Kravitz From: Paul Christenzen To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone??? What have we come to Crap-o-phone discussions... sheesh! Steven Medved wrote: > Unfortunately some have motors so weak a normal sound box will not work. > > >> From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:58:15 + >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone??? >> >> I would expect that if you put a good soundbox on it, an HMV or Victor >> Exhibition, Victrola no. 2 or 4, or any decent generic mica-diaphragmmed >> piece, the machine would actually sound pretty fair - better than most >> portables, for instance, as at least you've got an external horn. With the >> portable motor, you might even be able to put in a stronger spring in the >> barrel and you'd have even more functionality. P. Carli >> ________ >> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf >> of harvey kravitz [harveykrav...@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:19 PM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone??? >> >> Yes, I bought one years ago. It had a very attractive case and just looked >> cool. I paid about $50.00 for it. Mine, too, sounds halfway decent. I'm sure >> I'll get a lot of flack for this, but I consider them to be a part of the >> history of phonographs. >> Harvey Kravitz >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Dennis Back >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:30 PM >> Subject: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone??? >> >> Anyone on the list ever knowingly buy a Crap-O-Phone? As in...on purpose? >> >> Fess up. :-) >> >> Ok. >> >> I'll be first. >> >> Years ago, I saw an octagonal cased crap-o-phone that I thought was kind of >> cool looking. Someone from this list or the Phonolist said that they would >> order a bunch of them and the price was reasonable, as I recall. >> >> So I bought one. It had the usual portable motor and turntable, petaled >> brass horn and the usual cobbled tone arm and reproducer. Not a bad sounding >> reproducer, either. I still have it and I point out to visitors that these >> things are still being made, albeit poorly. >> >> Anyone else ever buy one and if so, why? >> >> Dennis >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> >> >> >> This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. >> If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the >> information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, >> forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this >> email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it >> from your email system. Thank you. >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone???
Yes, I bought one years ago. It had a very attractive case and just looked cool. I paid about $50.00 for it. Mine, too, sounds halfway decent. I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for this, but I consider them to be a part of the history of phonographs. Harvey Kravitz From: Dennis Back To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:30 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone??? Anyone on the list ever knowingly buy a Crap-O-Phone? As in...on purpose? Fess up. :-) Ok. I'll be first. Years ago, I saw an octagonal cased crap-o-phone that I thought was kind of cool looking. Someone from this list or the Phonolist said that they would order a bunch of them and the price was reasonable, as I recall. So I bought one. It had the usual portable motor and turntable, petaled brass horn and the usual cobbled tone arm and reproducer. Not a bad sounding reproducer, either. I still have it and I point out to visitors that these things are still being made, albeit poorly. Anyone else ever buy one and if so, why? Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Rear Mount Talkophone
I have a rear mount Talkophone Arm that I recently purchased and I would like to see how it is mounted to the rear of the machine. This is for a Clarke Model. I don't want to drill holes in the case. If somebody can provide pictures of the mounted bracket along with the inside of the case. I want to see if the bracket is held on by nuts or a plate like a Victor. Thanks in advance for any help. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Berliner crank???
Curt, This is a crank for a VV IV or a VV VI, like it says in the description. It is a tough crank to find and the price isn't so bad. I wonder about her other auctions. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner crank??? http://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-EARLY-ORIGINAL-VICTOR-VICTROLA-VV-IV-OR-VV-VI-CRANK-/300770746597?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46075560e5 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Gem Model E
Hi Steve, I have a Model N reproducer with a trowel weight that is S/N 22689. Good luck with your data. Harvey From: Steven Medved To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Gem Model E I am trying to narrow down Model N serial numbers, if anone has a Gem E I would be interested in the serial number of the N reproducer and the machine. You can reply off list if you like. Hit reply and copy and paste my e-mail address. Thanks, Steve The N was made for the Standard E and appeared around serial number 22,000 with a flat top and round weight. The N was used for the Gem E and left over Gem D machines. It was made for the later Amberolas to play the wax amberols. The N-56 was made for the amberola 5 and 6, the regular N was made for the amberola 8 and 10. 1 The first N was the round weight; it came out around serial number 22,000. This had the pot metal flat top. The first one said Nat’l Phono around 25614 they have TAE Inc on them. 2. The second N was the trowel, not to be mistaken with the N-56. The trowel N does not have a pillar for the Amberola lift. This likely came out the same time as the trowel O around 42,000. These have the early dome top. 3. Then come the bent weight N’s. I have observed the start around 46,000 and they normally have the good or last style of large top. The bent weight N has six varieties. 1. Extended H weight stamped Model N over H 4 Minute. 2. Extended H weight stamped Model N 4 Minute. 3. Extended H weight stamped Model-N in slightly larger letters 4 Extended H weight stamped N. 5. N weight stamped N 6. N weight stamped N with pin holding stylus bar in place. The Frow book has four of these and does not mention the trowel weight N. 7. Then the N-56 which has three serial number varieties. First the regular O and N serial number, I have seen one in the 70,000 range. Then more commonly I have seen four in the R and S serial number range of 31,000. Finally the A series, I know of an N-56 with an A287 serial number. I believe the A series were made after the fire but I could be mistaken. I do know for certain that C, H and K’s were made after the fire along with 2 and 4 minute recorders. In 1911, Edison's companies were re-organized into Thomas A. Edison, Inc. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] How it Started
Here is my story: I was stationed in San Diego, CA 1n 1988, aboard the USS Cape Cod (AD-43). I was in supply, so I had plenty of room. I was at an antique store in San Diego and saw a Victrola VI from 1918. I always wanted a Victrola and this small one was perfect to bring aboard ship. It included 10 records and needles and was good to go. During trips out to sea, I would play that Victrola.. She sure sounded good.When I was due to transfer to Bremerton, WA, I had it shipped to the barracks. Once I was settled in the barracks, I played the heck out of the Victrola. I was bit by the bug.Later on I got an Edison Fireside, and a Columbia Q. I had three phonographs in my barracks room. Thank goodness my room mate was always out.I would play all of my machines while my household goods were still in storage.I got Eric Reiss's book and learned about repairs and restoration. These machines were my source of entertainment. In the meantime I was buying a home, in Bremerton. While I was living in the barracks, my neighbor would play rap records. I asked him many times to to turn down the music.He would not comply. I took my Edison Fireside with the big horn and crane added to it and placed the horn on the wall. I played the most obnoxious cylinders over and over again. There was a knock on my door and my neighbor was pleading for me to stop. He wanted to know what was making all of this noise, so I showed him the Fireside with the big horn against the wall. He was fascinated with my mini collection. A month later, I moved into the house and these phonographs breed like rabbits!!! I have been collecting for close to 25 years. Harvey Kravitz From: Andrew Baron To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] How it Started Glad you enjoyed it. Taking the time to type out these remembrances brought out some old memories. The only thing of real importance that I omitted, was that the waitresses at Flynns would now and then offer me a tall, icy Coca Cola for free while I worked on reviving the machines; a tremendous and always unexpected perk. I got to work on phonographs AND got free soft drinks. So, to the list of those who've been generous and supportive must be added the waitresses of Flynn's Dixie Ribs of the mid 1970s. Andrew On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:50 AM, john robles wrote: > Great story, Andrew! I am loving reading all these histories! > John Robles > > > > > > From: Andrew Baron > To: Antique Phonograph List > Sent: Wed, August 1, 2012 9:09:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] How it Started > > Great to hear everyone's stories. Here's mine. > > I've had an affinity for history, machines and the phonograph for as long as > I > can remember, and recall creating a paper model of an upright phonograph > before > I ever had a real one. I also remember standing in utter awe, in the Edison > Winter Home and Museum in Fort Myers (now the Edison-Ford estates), gazing at > the wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling display of cylinder players sprouting > morning > glory horns in such profusion that it looked like a massive, enchanted > garden. > I have to admit reaching out to touch some of the uprights and consoles > there, > lined up behind velvet barrier rails, just so I could feel the history. > > In 1974 when I was 12 my family moved, and within bike-riding distance of our > new home was a restaurant called "Flynn's Dixie Ribs". For ambience, it was > decorated with old relics, including Singer sewing machines and several > mostly > 1920s phonographs. I don't recall if they were for sale, but my first > phonograph, a "Berg-Artone" portable, was procured from there. The > management > was very kind, letting me tinker with the machines in the off hours, and it > was > there that I got my first hands-on phonograph mechanism education. I recall > that I paid for the Berg-Artone with a fine Morgan silver dollar and $5.00 > hard-earned from mowing ten lawns in the Florida heat. That portable had a > broken mainspring, a punctured, wrinkled aluminum diaphragm and a dangling > needle chuck. You might say that the management got the better end of the > deal, > but for me it was a major coup to get the solid makings of a viable machine. > I > got two records with it; a tired copy of Jimmie Lunceford's "R > hythm is Our Business" on Decca, and "Till We Meet Again" (paired with "Have > a > Smile") on Victor. > > > First I sorted out the reproducer and for a time I just spun the records by > finger-on-the-label, enthralled at how so much sound could come out of a > purely > mechanical de
Re: [Phono-L] Question about a Columbia Graphophone model I have never seen or heard of....
Hi Ken, When the economy was good, they were worth about $1000.00 - $1200.00. With the bad economy, It shouldn't sell for more than $700.00. If you can get it for less than $700.00, then go for it. It would be worth more depending on the condition. Good luck with it. Harvey Kravitz From: Ken aka: OnATorrent To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Question about a Columbia Graphophone model I have never seen or heard of Harvey, I have never seen a machine like this from Columbia and I am interested in getting it but I sure do not want to over pay for it and I have no idea what the valuse on something like this would be. If you could provide some insight in the value of something like that. Any insight in the value you could help me with would be just great. I will wait on your reply. Take care until I hear from you about the BWT Disc Graphophone. Thanks, Ken From: Ken aka: OnATorrent To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:46 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Question about a Columbia Graphophone model I have never seen or heard of Hello all, Can any one give me some insight into the Columbia Disc Graphophone BWT? I have not been able to find any info on this model and if it is a correct model to even beging with. I know that Columbia parted some machines together but this I have never heard of before. Any help would be most welcomed, Kenneth Keeton ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK....
The screw in question is an ordinary set screw with a slotted head. You can get this screw at any well stocked hardware store. I had the same problem with my Edison Standard Model B. It was missing the set screw that held the 2/4 min. attachment to it. A 5-40 thread is very common in a well stocked store. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK George Vollema - email: victrola(at)triton(dot)net > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:21:17 -0700 > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK > > Ron, > I don't know George Vollema that I know of. Is he here in the Phono-L list ? > If not how do I contact him? > Ken > > > > From: Ron L'Herault > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK > > I think you are looking for a set screw, or grub screw, probably slotted. > Try searching for that. have you asked George Vollema? > > Ron L > > -Original Message- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Ken aka: OnATorrent > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:18 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK > > Hello all, > > I am looking now for a headless screw for a Columba BK. It is the size 5-40 > and holds the rod that he caraige slides across above the feed screw and > gear. It's for the rod that is in front of the mandrel. There is only one > screw and it goes on the left side of the rod. This is the BK with the > black bedplate. I am hoping I can find some one with an original one that I > do not have to alter. I called Dwyane Wyatt and he only has one that I > would have to screw in and then cut off. That is not the way I want to go > about it if I can help it. If any one has one I would be very happy to > purchase it. > I would also like to thank EVERYONE for all the help I have been given > here. I live in a very rural mile square town with it being over 100 miles > to the nearest city. It is so nice to be able to be in contact with other > collectors even though I do not get to meet anyone face to face. Maybe I > will be able to make it to the next Orlando, Florida show and get to see > some old friends and make some new ones. > Kenneth > > > > From: Vinyl Visions > To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > Hi Ken,Please explain what you meant by the right hand side of the > attachment was missing... If it is just the bearing on the right side, you > already have one in your machine. He couldn't be referring to the feedscrew, > since that is permanently attached to the 2/4 gearing. The only other thing > would be the feedscrew tube, which you also already have. So, if he has the > feedscrew with the round gear case assembly attached and he has the BE plate > that has the locking post on it, you should be good. You might also need the > screws to attach the plate and the tube. Send a pic if you have one. Also, > let me know what he is asking, if you don't mind. My email is: > vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)comCurt > > > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:45:35 -0700 > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > > I have a large collection of Edison 2 minute cylinders and was just in > fear that he diamond stylus in the H stylus would carve out or damage the > grooves in the was cylinders. I know what you mean about wax breaking. I > just broke my copy of Bake Dat Chicken Pie and I was almost in tears over > it. Lucky for me I found someone willing to sell thiers and it is in better > condition than mine was. So I guess it all worke out for the good. But > thanks for your input. I think I have found a 2/4 minute attachment for my > Sears Oxford that was made after the BKT so the BK conversion attachment > will work on it. How cool is that? Still no luck on a complete Colubia BE > 2/4 minute attachment. I found someone that has most of one but missing the > right hand side of it. I told him if he can find the other part I would be > more than happy to buy it. > > Again, thanks for all your help, > > Ken > > > > > > > &
Re: [Phono-L] Question about a Columbia Graphophone model I have never seen or heard of....
The Columbia BWT is a disc machine that uses a Talkophone Brooke case. After the lawsuits between Columbia and Talkophone, Columbia bought out Talkophone as a settlement. As a result, you'll see Talkophone cases with Columbia mechanical parts. The BWT is one of them. Hope this helps. Harvey Kravitz From: Ken aka: OnATorrent To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:46 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Question about a Columbia Graphophone model I have never seen or heard of Hello all, Can any one give me some insight into the Columbia Disc Graphophone BWT? I have not been able to find any info on this model and if it is a correct model to even beging with. I know that Columbia parted some machines together but this I have never heard of before. Any help would be most welcomed, Kenneth Keeton ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison square box standard crank needed
Hi John, I have one. Contact me off list for price and address. Harvey Kravitz From: john robles To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 1:39 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison square box standard crank needed Hi Has anyone got a crank for a square box Edison Standard model A? A friend needs one. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union wishlist
If any one has a Columbia late model Q reproducer, contact Jerry Blais or myself. It's the one with the large housing with the big mica diaphragm. Thanks, Harvey Kravitz From: Brice Paris To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Union wishlist Bill see brice Paris he brought a Very nice original one with receipt and instructions book On Jun 7, 2012, at 11:03 AM, William Taney wrote: > I have a friend looking for a nice oak Amberola 75 > Bill > > > On 6/7/12 10:35 AM, "Ken and Brenda Brekke" wrote: > >> If anyone has a "Remove this Tag to attach Tapered Arm" metal tag for a >> Victor, please contact me at the Union Phonograph show. I set up in the >> back room in the Northeast corner. I am also on the hunt for Victor >> volume >> controls and wooden Victor reproducer boxes. I plan on bringing a large >> amount of horns, reproducers and other miscellaneous parts for sale along >> with a project Victor III and some Edison Homes. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ken Brekke >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Fw: We've Taken An Electronic Hit
Hi gang, I really don't know what to say of this. I had no idea that this happened. I'm doing a virus check and hope everything will be OK. Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message - From: "keeper...@aol.com" To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 2:18 PM Subject: [Phono-L] We've Taken An Electronic Hit Either spammers or hackers have gotten into Harvey's, and now Bobby Carver's mailing list. Don't open the attachment, folks! The subject, "Re:" is a dead give-away that it's not a message from Harvey or Bob. : ) Edwary In a message dated 6/3/2012 6:18:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: dish soap diluted in water and a soft toothbrush and brush in the direction of the grooves all around the surface,rinse with tap water and dry with a terry face cloth.It may take 2-3 attempts but should work.Never use a pin! From: Dennis Back ; To: Antique Phonograph List ; Subject: [Phono-L] Paint flecks on a Blue Amberol Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 9:49:35 PM A friend just called me and asked if I knew of a way to get paint flecks off a Blue Amberol cylinder, without damaging it. I was thinking a pin or needle using a magnifying glass to gently dig the flecks out? Playing the cylinder the correct Diamond B reproducer might dislodge some of the flecks, but might not be good for the stylus. I asked if the paint was oil based, and he said he did NOT think it was and thought it was plain "house paint." Any ideas? Thanks, Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Triumph D with repeater parts
Steve, I'm so sorry to here about your busted machine. UPS is notorious for damaging items with their careless handling. I would never ship UPS. If I buy a machine or something along those lines, FEDEX is the best way to go. Sometimes, they are cheaper than UPS. USPS priority mail is another way to go, It may be a little more expensive than UPS or FEDEX, but the item gets special treatment and guaranteed 3 day delivery. All the best, Harvey Kravitz From: Steven Medved To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 1:37 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph D with repeater parts Hello, I have a Triumph D that came with a repeater, the repeater is missing. It has the extra gearing on the pulley and the screws to hold the repeater to the upper bed plate. UPS dropped it and broke the lower bed plate. I got another bed plate for it, the striping is poor. The pot metal bearing is removed. The large carriage was broken in two. One spring in the motor is cracked in pieces, I removed it. The mandrel will likely have to be replaced. The feed screw might work, I do not know. UPS messed it up, but it is not deep. The adjusting screw that holds the front of the motor in place that you adjust pulley belt tension is bent. The motor looks good, the small brass gears are worn. It has no case, but came with a home made bottom case. The mandrel inner rod should be good. I would like to get $300 for the parts including shipping. Croaking frog was selling just the repeater pulley with the extra gear for $125, a motor frame alone for $60, speed control scre w for $50, governor switch for $45, and I have seen spring barrels sell for around $100 and a whole motor go for $225. The spring barrel assembly, the motor, the upper and lower bed plate will be shipped in on box in separate pieces so nothing gets broken. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Roller Wheel and Screw for Suitcase Standard or Home
I am looking for the small roller wheel and screw for my 2 clip Suitcase Standard. This fits onto the carriage. If available, let know the price and shipping. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question
Steve, I would like 2 of the 1-56 taps. What size drill should be used in case you have to drill out a broken screw? Harvey Kravitz From: Bob Maffit To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question Steve: I sure would like 2 of the 1-56. In the event you have them for the other Victor reproducers,( if different than 1-56, 2 of each as well. . Please let me know Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:17 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question 1-56 for the Exhibition. I am almost positive 1-72 on the 2, 4 and 5 Victor reproducers, I will double check unless someone else confirms. Do you need a 1-56 tap? I have some NOS ones. If a number of people want them I can put an order together as the cost will be under $2.50 for each one if they are still available. I like two, one I keep the point on and one I grind flat. I believe they are from the 1950's as they are deeply stamped. Steve > From: maff...@bresnan.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:36:35 -0700 > Subject: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question > > Phono listers: > > > > What are the thread sizes for the thumb screw on: Victor: > > exhibition, n. 2, and 4a reproducers? > > > > again thanks > > > > Bob > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Q cylinder parts needed
Hi Steve, Crokingfrog on ebay has on for sale. It's expensive, I believe that it is $45.00 Harvey Kravitz From: Steven Medved To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:18 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Q cylinder parts needed Hello, The floating reproducers have the knurled knob that screws in the end of the sound tube, on the tube that goes on the machine there is a ring with a tab ring that sits behind the reproducer and lifts it up when you stop playing a cylinder. Does anyone have these parts? Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Merry Christmas
Hi Gang, I want to wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy , Prosperous New Year. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Why so high?
Actually Steve, I've seen these postcards go for big bucks. In some cases, even more than some machines. Merry Christmas, Harvey Kravitz From: Steven Medved To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Why so high? http://www.ebay.com/itm/320817299306 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] (no subject)
Hi gang, I am looking for the following records at a reasonable price. 1. Decca label, Rum & Coca Cola, Andrews Sisters 2. Bluebird label In the mood/I want to be happy, Glenn Miller & Orchestra Thanks, Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor II ?
Hi Melissa, The arm appears to be from a Vic III, IV, V, M, MS, or D. I can't tell by the bracket, though.The total length for a Victor II arm is 7" long. Good luck, Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:59 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Victor II ? Hi Everyone, We are in need of the entire back bracket and tone arm for our "new" Victor II. Below is the link to an Ebay auction for what looks like a II tone arm and bracket. We were told by Ron Sitko that the Victor II had a specific back bracket and tone arm. Only a part from a II will fit another II. Can anyone tell me if the part in the Ebay auction is from a II. The seller doesn't seem to know. Thanks!Melissa http://www.ebay.com/itm/220877076235 --- On Wed, 10/19/11, srsel...@aol.com wrote: From: srsel...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Modern Cylinder Boxes - ARSC Project To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 9:50 AM Actually The Library of Congress funded an "affordable archival cylinder box" project for ARSC which just ended last year. Check out info on Page 10 and 11 here: _http://www.arsc-audio.org/newsletter/nslr124.pdf_ (http://www.arsc-audio.org/newsletter/nslr124.pdf) They are not commercially available yet though. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Opera Horn Elbow?
Hi Melissa, The elbow is off of a radio. Music Master made wood horns for radios after they made phonograph horns. I have a Music Master mahogany horn that uses the same fitting of the Edison cygnet horn. The bell is 14" in diameter. Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera Horn Elbow? Hi All, Last week we won a box of phonograph parts along with our Victor II. Most of them do not look very interesting. However, in the box was included a horn elbow. I immediately thought it was just the elbow from a radio horn but now we are wondering if it belongs to an Edison Opera. The paint appears original and is black. It fits onto the bell of our Edison cygnet horn and looks like the opera elbows we have found pictured online. It has been suggested to us that it may actually be from a school opera due to the black color. Sadly, we do not own, nor can we currently afford our own Opera so we are considering selling the elbow to allow someone else to complete an Opera. Can anyone confirm or deny what type of elbow it is? There are other items in the box that we know nothing about and would love any info. Here is a link to a video of the items. If you would like close up pics of any of them, please send me your email. Thanks!Melissa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRtpWICAmqk --- On Tue, 10/11/11, Mike Stitt wrote: From: Mike Stitt Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 1920's-30's Music Source To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 4:30 PM I forgot, on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4F1sd5rK4A&feature=player_embedded Mike On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Mike Stitt wrote: > Here ya go. > http://dust-digital.com/index.htm > > http://dust-digital.com/wind > OC > (Mike) > > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > >> >> For some unknown reason, my browser ran the link together with the next >> line. >> http://www.ludustonalis.net/Early-Sound--20s-30s-DanceBand.html >> >> > From: vinyl.visi...@live.com >> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:45:57 -0400 >> > Subject: [Phono-L] 1920's-30's Music Source >> > >> > >> > This is Ballard Doggett's website, where he sells a lot of unusual >> records of the time - particularly "race" records: >> http://www.ludustonalis.net/Early-Sound--20s-30s-DanceBand.htmlThere are >> some interesting period videos on his website, as well, which makes it >> worthwhile just for that reason. >> > I have bought a number of records from him and never had any problems - >> reasonable shipping costs and verywell packed. He's located in San >> Francisco, in case you need that info. >> > Ballard Doggett's uncle - Ballard "Bill" Doggett was a black performer >> back in the day and wrote the song"Honky Tonk"... check his website out - >> you might find something you can't live without. >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Phono-L mailing list >> > http://phono-l.org >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> > > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you!
Melissa, I really like the video's of your Vic III and Home D. I liked the song on the Vic III. I collect pre 1930 music. I like bands, marches, ballads, and pop of the period. I just recently got into big band & swing. I really like the wood grained horn on the Edison Home. I have one purple amberol cylinder. They are expensive and the music puts me to sleep(That's my opinion). If they come my way cheap, I'll get them. The Victor II should be restored. The cabinet and parts look really good. To me, it's worth the restoration. Thanks for sharing. Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you! Please don't worry, no offense taken at all. I just enjoy talking about music...music teacher syndrome I guess :) Yes, I agree about the conflict surrounding war music. Especially WWII music with all the extreme propaganda. It is interesting but a little strange. Truly a sign of the times in which they were written. I think they were trying desperately to keep the country upbeat in those terrible times. I do love jazz. I try to introduce my kids to early jazz as much as possible. The music is complex, original and so much fun to listen to and play! Thanks again! Melissa --- On Tue, 10/11/11, Vinyl Visions wrote: From: Vinyl Visions Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 10:15 AM I love the historical aspect of the music, as well. I guess that I'm stuck in an era (the 20''s), which seems similar to the 1990's with the stock market craze leading to the depression. That era produced some very good jazz. WWI is an interesting historical era, but I find it to be somewhat conflicting - like all wars. Playing catchy tunes at home, while people are being gassed in the trenches -- all for what reason? Same with WWII swing music... goofy lyrics apparently to escape reality. I hope you know that I wasn't making a critical statement regarding your taste in music... > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:49:33 -0700 > From: riccib...@yahoo.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you! > > Hi, > Thanks for the comment. We actually listen to a lot of jazz. I am a band > teacher and have a jazz band at school. We play music from the 1920's on. We > have a 1940's jukebox at home full of jazz. > However, at the moment, I am really enjoying these quirky songs from the WW1 > era. it is something different and it really shows what the mentality was > back in the early 1900's. Being a history person, I just love the lyrics. I > love how they sing about sending soldiers cigarettes and candy. I find these > songs interesting, cute and catchy. > Melissa > > > --- On Mon, 10/10/11, Vinyl Visions wrote: > > > From: Vinyl Visions > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you! > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 11:22 PM > > > > The machine is great... but the music leaves a little to be desired. Try some > 20's Jazz or Blues. Coon Sanders or Irving Aaronson and his Commanders would > be great or even some Helen Kane (Betty Boop) to liven things up. Check out > RedHotJazz.com for some ideas... Just a suggestion - everyone has different > tastes. > > > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:06:37 -0700 > > From: riccib...@yahoo.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you! > > > > Hello Everyone, > > Thank you again for helping us to solve our motor issue and for all the > > comments about whether or not to restore our Victor II. It looks like we > > will take our time searching for parts and restore the II. We will let you > > all know how it comes out. The Victor III was our first outside horn > > Victor machine so we are so happy to have it working. There is an old > > repair to the spear tip oak horn that we will need to deal with and we > > would like to have the tone arm re-plated but for now we are just happy to > > hear it play! :) > > Below are links to a video of our now working Victor III and our Home Model > > D with wood grained metal cygnet playing our first ever royal purple > > cylinder. Thank you again for all of your help! > > Melissa > > Victor III > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjh_Xfw1n0 > > Home Model D > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lADxtbyrJY > > > > > > --- On Sun, 10/9/11, Vinyl Visions wrote: > > > > From: Vinyl Visions > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Wo
Re: [Phono-L] Regal Phono
It's hard to tell from the head on shot. My guess is that's an imported machine with an American label. I could be wrong. The horn looks European to me. It's really hard to put a value on the machine.From what I've seen, I'd say it's worth $4-5 hundred. For some reason, European machines don't command the prices like Victor, Columbia, etc. I personally like the European machines. They have so much class to them. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Regal Phono Harvey, Take a look at Jeff's picture that he posted on the Carolina Antique Music and Phonograph Society Facebook page, as it is an outside horn machine, not the Victrola clone that is pictured in the CAPS link. I haven't seen one exactly like it... http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carolina-Antique-Music-Phonograph-Society/130658956974008 > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:12:43 -0700 > From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Regal Phono > > Jeff, > This is a very interesting machine. Because it's an off-brand, they are not > worth as much like a Victor, columbia or Edison. I would say $200.00 tops for > it. > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > From: Jeff Walton > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:46 AM > Subject: [Phono-L] Regal Phono > > Greetings: > > I picked this Regal Phonograph up at auction over the weekend. I usually > dabble in mostly columbia machines, but picked this one instead. Can anyone > tell me the value of the machine? I cant find much about the Regal Company on > the web other than they were produced between 1915 and 1923. I did find one > website that offered a lot of history: > > http://www.capsnews.org/apn2006-1.htm > > Does anyone know what this goes for these days. > > > Jeff Walton > Wilmington NC 28403 > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Regal Phono 9-17-11.jpg > Type: image/pjpeg > Size: 37235 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20110919/ed99515c/attachment.bin> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Regal Phono
Jeff, This is a very interesting machine. Because it's an off-brand, they are not worth as much like a Victor, columbia or Edison. I would say $200.00 tops for it. Harvey Kravitz From: Jeff Walton To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:46 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Regal Phono Greetings: I picked this Regal Phonograph up at auction over the weekend. I usually dabble in mostly columbia machines, but picked this one instead. Can anyone tell me the value of the machine? I cant find much about the Regal Company on the web other than they were produced between 1915 and 1923. I did find one website that offered a lot of history: http://www.capsnews.org/apn2006-1.htm Does anyone know what this goes for these days. Jeff Walton Wilmington NC 28403 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Regal Phono 9-17-11.jpg Type: image/pjpeg Size: 37235 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20110919/ed99515c/attachment.bin> ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Bargain Victrola
It's cheaper than a Victor VI, LOL!! Harvey Kravitz From: Andrew Baron To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Bargain Victrola Anyone catch this? It's also 100 years old, and plays 45's as well! http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200653017746&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 Andy ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Now, this is what I call a very interesting... Phonograph...
I love it. It's very tasteful. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:12 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Now, this is what I call a very interesting... Phonograph... http://www.fotoblur.com/images/41694 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison Suitcase Standard
Hi Gang, I have an 4 clip Edison Suitcase Standard. The S/N is 21XXX. It has the smaller motor and spring barrel. It came with an S shaped crank. I have seen these Standards with a cast iron flat crank that fits close to the machine. I bought a flat crank for my Standard. The crank does not fit. The winding shaft is too big for the crank hole. Does anyone know when Edison switched to the S shaped crank? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] My phonograph room
Nice display John. Your pictures are my inspiration. My son is going away to college and guess what I'll be doing in his room? Harvey Kravitz From: john robles To: phonolist Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2011 12:21 AM Subject: [Phono-L] My phonograph room Here is a link to pics of my phonograph room and machines. I don't have much room so I don't have many machines, but I enjoy what I have. Double click on the pics to enlarge them and read the comments. If you have a photobucket account I'd like to see some of your collections! http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/My%20Phono%20Room/ John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making
I use Walther's Goo cement. It is a very flexible contact cement great for belts and record album repair. It can be purchased at any hobby shop that deals with model railroad supplies. Harvey Kravitz From: Steven Medved To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making Hello Al, Where do you get your leather for the belts? Here is Barge Cement for those who like me had never heard of it: http://www.amazon.com/BARGE-DA081-Barge-Cement/dp/B002JL2ZHE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314492925&sr=8-1 Steve > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: clockworkh...@aol.com > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:12:18 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making > > > > > Neoprene, which is the generic brand name for chloroprene, has a life of 15 > years according to NASA specs. But, those specs are for non-flexing O rings > under compression and not exposed to air. I suspect a neoprene belt would do > a great job and not have the problem a leather belt with a bad bulging joint > to cause record 'wow' would have. That being said, I have leather belts of > 100+ years still going strong with original stitching. For a machine just to > play a record well the neoprene is likely a good choice. For originality, a > leather belt with stitching is my choice. You can skive the ends of the > leather belt. Join them with Barge Cement. Then use one of those toy sewing > machines they sell As Seen On TV, with a home made guide fence, to put on the > twin parallel stitches. A light touch of Barge Cement at the thread ends > will keep them from unraveling while playing. The belt can be dressed with > leather protectant and will last indefinitely. > > That's my 2 cents worth... > > Al > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making
I've been reading all of the comments.I'll stick to using leather belts for my machines. They are easy to make and use. Harvey Kravitz From: Ron L'Herault To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making The fellow selling them probably found Audio Visual equipment belts such as would be used on projectors or VCRs that were the right size. They cost a couple of dollars each if you know what you are looking for. It's getting the right one yourself that is the problem. He's already done the hard work. Ron -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob Maffit Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:14 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making John: Thanks for the comments. I went out to EBay and found the belts and read the comments. Seems like a practical item to try. I think I might give them a go. I noticed belts were listed for various machines. So, I assume a belt is for a specific machine. And not "universal". Again, thanks to all who commented. Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:30 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making I did write an article on it. These belts are not rubber but are neoprene. I bought one for my Gem, liked it, and then bought one for my Fireside and Home. They work very well. I tested the speed of the machine with the tachometer and the speed is stable, not like it would be with a rubber belt. John Robles From: Bob Maffit To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:25 PM Subject: [Phono-L] phonograph belt making Phono Listers: I am working on a Edison Standard and at the point I need to make a belt. While doing such, I recall an offering, I think on EBay, of a "rubber" like belt. Now, don't get offended, I know the "organic" phono folk may not appreciate this thread. .. I think it was about $13! A little pricy. I suspect someone has found a "rubber belt" manufactured for something which works well. Does anyone have comments, thoughts and or information like: substance, source, other important info & specifics etc, regarding this "belt" topic? Are there any rules of thumb as to making leather belts such as length of leather: length of the loop: shaping the ends: how much overlap: glue or adhesive: Anything one has to offer would be appreciated.. *smile* Later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Odd pairing
Hi Gang, It's definitely a frankenphone. I must admit that it is very well made and thought out. It's not something I want in my collection, but it is very interesting. Harvey Kravitz From: Andrew Baron To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Odd pairing I think half the time the seller is a clueless as the buyer. The other half, someone alerts the seller that it's junk (on eBay, especially, there's no shortage of available wisdom to point this out), and in that case, unfortunately, the seller usually doesn't say a word. It's always refreshing to see when a seller is up front and edits their ad to let prospective buyers know what they've learned from any number of experts emailing them the facts. Even more so when the seller invites prior bidders to withdraw. Andy On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:32 AM, john robles wrote: > I hate to see people get taken in by this type of shenanigan. Possibly the > seller doesn't know what it is, but it is still sad. > John Robles > > > > > From: Andrew Baron > To: Antique Phonograph List > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:26 AM > Subject: [Phono-L] Odd pairing > > This is at least two machines. The one clearly is Victor, the other is a > cabinet from? The cabinet may be truncated. > > Anyone know what it's made from? > > eBay Item number:250872404619 > > Andy Baron > Santa Fe > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Cracked Record Repair/Preservation
Hi Curt I do something similar. I use ACC(crazy glue) and run a drop on the edge of the crack. I carefully move the cracked part up and until the glue flows into the whole length of the crack using a capillary action. Then I carefully use the pointy end of a paper towel to remove the excess of the glue. I have used this method for over 20 years since I started collecting. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:54 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Cracked Record Repair/Preservation I recently decided to try a repair/restoration on a cracked early Zonophone record. The crack was a hairline from the edge to the label, with a slight gap near the edge. Normally I throw these away, since they usually get worse and break anyway. I decided to try a method that I thought might work using Weldbond white glue. Weldbond is a very versatile glue that works well on a number of types of materials and is easy to use since it cleans up with water and is key to this process. I placed a line of glue along the entire crack, then worked it in with my finger while gently flexing the crack to make sure the glue penetrated into the crack. I did both sides of the crack the same way. Then using a damp - not wet - paper towel and rubbing in the direction of the grooves, I wiped out any excess and made sure the grooves were not filled in. After 24 hours, the record sounds as solid as new when tapped and plays well. You can still see the hairline crack, but it filled in solid and is now stabilized and plays well considering. I have done this on several other records that I could not stand to throw away and they turned out well. Try it on one of your damaged records for posterity's sake - what do you have to lose? Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison Spring Motor Lid
Hi gang, I have a potential lead on an Edison Spring motor phonograph. It is missing the lid. I know that they are super rare. I head that a few years ago, somebody was reproducing them. Does anyone know who and if they still available? Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video
Thank you for sharing the video. That was a great restoration on the machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop Video Hello Everyone, We are still completely stumped with our apparent auto-stop attachment. We have taken a video of the machine playing so you can see where it sits as the machine functions. There are two close up pictures a the end of the video. Please let us know if the link does not work or if you know what this attachment is. Thanks so much! Melissa and Nick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlmYvCWqXI From: Rich To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard Auto Stop? I was going to suggest just attaching them and Loran will send them on. Probably were a bit on the large size so he has to shrink them first. On 08/06/2011 09:54 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote: > Hi Rich, > Sorry about that. The link only seems to work on Yahoo's phonolist group. I > tried to send the pics as attachments directly to Phono-l but I got a message > that they are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Hopefully, the pics > and message will be sent through when the moderator gets them. > Thanks for letting me know there was a problem! > Melissa > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B
Hi Mike, I won't be at CAPS this year. If you find one, let me know if it is for direct sale or trade. All the best, Harvey Kravitz From: "mdsor...@aol.com" To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B will you be at caps? I am sure I could dig one up. Mike Sorter -Original Message- From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Sun, Aug 7, 2011 5:17 am Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B Hi Gang, I am looking to trade a large reproducer carriage from a Standard Model A or B for a small sized carriage for the same. Even trade. If there is a small sized carriage for direct sale, I'd be interested. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison Standard carriage for model A or B
Hi Gang, I am looking to trade a large reproducer carriage from a Standard Model A or B for a small sized carriage for the same. Even trade. If there is a small sized carriage for direct sale, I'd be interested. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820
Hi Gang I tried to forward the message, but the link won't show up on the email. If you go to Yahoo video and type in Singing bird pistols of 1820, It should come up. It's very interesting to see this. The craftsmanship in amazing. This is the ultimate Automaton or singing bird. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols
Dear Melissa, I resent it out to Phono-l. I hope it works this time. Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 2:56:47 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols Hi Harvey,There is no link on our end and now we really want to see this video. :)Nick and MelissaNew To Phono-L --- On Mon, 7/18/11, harvey kravitz wrote: From: harvey kravitz Subject: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 5:31 PM Hi Gang, I got this video from one of my buddies. If you want to see the ultimate Automaton or singing birds, this is it! Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: Jerry OConnor To: Dave Kushner Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 7:19:34 PM Subject: Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols These singing bird pistols (circa 1820) were sold at Christie's International in Hong Kong on May 20 for $5.8 million.You won't believe the beauty of them until you view the video below. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols
I hope the link shows up on this one. Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: Jerry OConnor To: Dave Kushner Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 7:19:34 PM Subject: Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols These singing bird pistols (circa 1820) were sold at Christie's International in Hong Kong on May 20 for $5.8 million.You won't believe the beauty of them until you view the video below. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols
Hi Gang, I got this video from one of my buddies. If you want to see the ultimate Automaton or singing birds, this is it! Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: Jerry OConnor To: Dave Kushner Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 7:19:34 PM Subject: Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols These singing bird pistols (circa 1820) were sold at Christie's International in Hong Kong on May 20 for $5.8 million.You won't believe the beauty of them until you view the video below. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] opera plugs?
Were these used on Diamond disk also? They have oil holes, too. Harvey Kravitz From: Rich To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Mon, July 11, 2011 5:10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] opera plugs? Stoppers for the oil holes to keep dirt out. On 07/11/2011 06:25 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but what are Opera plugs and what are they used for? > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > > > From: Rich > To: Antique Phonograph List > Sent: Mon, July 11, 2011 2:19:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] opera plugs? > > Not that I know of and I don't think there has been anybody making them > for quite a while. I would also be interested if any are available. > > On 07/11/2011 02:31 PM, allena...@aol.com wrote: >> Hi >> >> Is someone still making those little brass plugs for Edison Opera oil >> holes, and about how much are they going for these days (set of 4)? >> >> Thx. >> >> Allen >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] opera plugs?
Pardon my ignorance, but what are Opera plugs and what are they used for? Harvey Kravitz From: Rich To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Mon, July 11, 2011 2:19:27 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] opera plugs? Not that I know of and I don't think there has been anybody making them for quite a while. I would also be interested if any are available. On 07/11/2011 02:31 PM, allena...@aol.com wrote: > Hi > >Is someone still making those little brass plugs for Edison Opera oil > holes, and about how much are they going for these days (set of 4)? > > Thx. > > Allen > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Beware of this seller on Ebay
Al, Even if I did the BIN, whose to say that this seller will honor it? What galled me was her raising the price while waiting on my offer. Anyway, it's no big loss. I'll eventually find a nice set of these books.Like I said before, It's only a hobby, and not worth getting mad over it. Harvey Kravitz From: Albert Menashe To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 9:50:51 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Beware of this seller on Ebay Harvey, you screwed up. Why would you dicker over $5.00. You should use the buy it now, on something your really want. Now you are going to stew over not getting the item forever. If you had paid $5.00 too much the ejoyment of the item will make you forget what you paid almost immediatly. See you at Expo over the weekend. Al On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:11 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: > I don't know if this is appropriate, but I will post it anyway. I have a > Language phone disc machine made by Columbia. I was looking on ebay and > found > #260383447532. It was a set of books for a Language phone in Spanish dated > 1917. > I thought this would be a welcome addition to my Language phone machine. > The > seller's name is blue.moonbooks.and.antiques. I asked the usual questions > before I bid. It was a buy it now for $24.95 or obo.. I put in a offer of > $20.00 > and got a notice that the price jumped up to $55.00 and my offer was > declined. I > contacted the seller and asked what was going on about the sudden change in > price. She told me that she is a business woman and found out before I put > in my > offer, she reappraised the the value of the books. Needless to say I was > pretty > pissed off and let her know how angry I was. I haven't heard back from her > and I > doubt if I ever will. I know I will get a lot of flak saying that it's > still her > item and she can do what ever they want with it. I guess i'm trying to > say,a > person's word is thier most valuable asset. To me it is worth more than all > the > phonographs and riches in the world. The lesson I learned from this is > phonographs are only a hobby, it's not worth getting mad at, and to move > on. > Also, I know to stay away from this seller. Thank you all for hearing me > out. > Before I forget, I checked the listing again and it was pulled. > Harvey Kravitz > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Beware of this seller on Ebay
I don't know if this is appropriate, but I will post it anyway. I have a Language phone disc machine made by Columbia. I was looking on ebay and found #260383447532. It was a set of books for a Language phone in Spanish dated 1917. I thought this would be a welcome addition to my Language phone machine. The seller's name is blue.moonbooks.and.antiques. I asked the usual questions before I bid. It was a buy it now for $24.95 or obo.. I put in a offer of $20.00 and got a notice that the price jumped up to $55.00 and my offer was declined. I contacted the seller and asked what was going on about the sudden change in price. She told me that she is a business woman and found out before I put in my offer, she reappraised the the value of the books. Needless to say I was pretty pissed off and let her know how angry I was. I haven't heard back from her and I doubt if I ever will. I know I will get a lot of flak saying that it's still her item and she can do what ever they want with it. I guess i'm trying to say,a person's word is thier most valuable asset. To me it is worth more than all the phonographs and riches in the world. The lesson I learned from this is phonographs are only a hobby, it's not worth getting mad at, and to move on. Also, I know to stay away from this seller. Thank you all for hearing me out. Before I forget, I checked the listing again and it was pulled. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Robles' Edison-Clarence Ferguson transcript
I got my copy and it was well done and very professional. I was well worth the
price and enjoyable to read.
Harvey Kravitz
From: Andrew Baron
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Subject: [Phono-L] Robles' Edison-Clarence Ferguson transcript
I just want to take a moment to let the group know my impressions of John
Robles' effort in printing and re-issuing the booklet that was transcribed from
the rare original Clarence Ferguson interview ("The Last Edison Dealer"),
originally issued by Leo Kimmett in 1972:
I just finished reading this compilation of Kimmett's questions and Ferguson's
reminiscences, and really enjoyed it immensely. It's nice how Ferguson's
personality comes through, in addition to the information and insights. I
especially found it interesting to read about having to shout into the
recording
horn for the disc, in contrast to using natural voice (such that it would be
with some projection, I imagine) into the cylinder recording horn.
Delightful picture also of the inebriated musicians at the Columbia studio.
Glimpses of Ferguson's recollections of Cal Stewart and other notable early
recording artists shed a more vibrant light on the personalities than you would
find in the conventional biographies. And of course always interesting to read
anything about Edison himself, and some of this also comes through in the
writing.
I was amazed that Ferguson's recall extended from the living memory of these
artists and events to the technical, even recalling the lengths, widths,
thicknesses and termination details of the mainsprings for all the popular
model
Edison phonographs.
What I've mentioned here just covers a small part of the broad range of answers
to Kimmett's questions.
Although a slender volume of approximately 25 pages, at $12.50 postpaid it's
well worth every penny. Where else are you going to get information like that?
The time and print cost alone on a small private printing like this makes the
price more than fair. The effort to re-transcribe Kimmett's nearly 40-year-old
original, in clean, readable type is a nice plus as well. It's all very
welcome
information.
Thanks for taking the time to re-publish this irreplaceable history. Would
that
it were ten times as long!
Andy Baron
Santa Fe
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Re: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available
Hi John, Got your address. Here is mine, 2138 11th street, Bremerton, WA 98312. All the best, Harvey From: john robles To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 9:03:52 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available Hi Harvey Did I send yo my address? If not it is John Robles 290 Frances St Ventura, CA 93003. Thanks! I will need your address too. John --- On Tue, 6/14/11, harvey kravitz wrote: From: harvey kravitz Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 1:55 PM Hi John, Hold a book and label for me. I'll need your mailing address. I'll get a check out to you ASAP. Harvey Kravitz From: John Maeder To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 4:09:58 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available John, Please hold a book with a label for me. I'll send you a check tomorrow. Please send your mailing address. Thanks, John appywan...@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:35:54 -0700 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available > > Hello All > Due to the importance of sharing this information with the collecting > community > >(and after a search of the United States Copyright Office!), I am happy to >announce that I am offering, in a new and very readable format, the Clarence >Ferguson interview taped and transcribed y Leo Kimmet in 1968, where he >conducts > >a lengthy conversation Ferguson that is full of vital and fascinating inside >information. Ferguson was employed in the Edison phonograph factory since >1907 >and eventually became an Edison Phonograph dealer, who had new old stock to >sell > >in both parts and records up until the 1950s/60s. He was known as the 'last >Edison dealer', > > Some of you may remember the booklet, entitled "The Edison Phonograph Company >and Related Opinions of Clarence Ferguson'. It was published in a limited >number in 1972. Chapters include 'Records and Recording', 'Phonograph >Repairing', 'The Edison Plant', 'Phonograph Parts', 'Recording Artists' and >'Miscellaneous Information'. You won't believe what happened to a lot of new >phonographs and record moulds when the plant was closed...And what happened to >all the master cylinder moulds in the early 1930s at Babson Brothers... > > > > > > > The new edition is printed in 8-1/2" x 11" format, with glossy cover, with > the >addition of a photo of Clarence, a photo Leo Kimmet, and the reproduction of >Clarence's stamp with picture of an Edison phonograph with Edison's face >inside >the horn and Clarence's address above. As a special bonus, I have acquired a >number of the original cylinder box labels that Clarence had printed up and >which he would apply to original Edison Blue Amberol boxes. One of Clarence's >original labels will be included with each book sold. There are a limited >number > >of 100 labels available, so if you are interested please order soon. > The price is $12.50 including Media Mail shipping in the US. International >rates will be higher. Pament can be made by Paypal or by check. Please feel >free to ask questions. > Thanks > John Robles > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available
Hi John, Hold a book and label for me. I'll need your mailing address. I'll get a check out to you ASAP. Harvey Kravitz From: John Maeder To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 4:09:58 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available John, Please hold a book with a label for me. I'll send you a check tomorrow. Please send your mailing address. Thanks, John appywan...@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:35:54 -0700 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] New Clarence Ferguson book edition available > > Hello All > Due to the importance of sharing this information with the collecting > community >(and after a search of the United States Copyright Office!), I am happy to >announce that I am offering, in a new and very readable format, the Clarence >Ferguson interview taped and transcribed y Leo Kimmet in 1968, where he >conducts >a lengthy conversation Ferguson that is full of vital and fascinating inside >information. Ferguson was employed in the Edison phonograph factory since >1907 >and eventually became an Edison Phonograph dealer, who had new old stock to >sell >in both parts and records up until the 1950s/60s. He was known as the 'last >Edison dealer', > > Some of you may remember the booklet, entitled "The Edison Phonograph Company >and Related Opinions of Clarence Ferguson'. It was published in a limited >number in 1972. Chapters include 'Records and Recording', 'Phonograph >Repairing', 'The Edison Plant', 'Phonograph Parts', 'Recording Artists' and >'Miscellaneous Information'. You won't believe what happened to a lot of new >phonographs and record moulds when the plant was closed...And what happened to >all the master cylinder moulds in the early 1930s at Babson Brothers... > > > > > > The new edition is printed in 8-1/2" x 11" format, with glossy cover, with > the >addition of a photo of Clarence, a photo Leo Kimmet, and the reproduction of >Clarence's stamp with picture of an Edison phonograph with Edison's face >inside >the horn and Clarence's address above. As a special bonus, I have acquired a >number of the original cylinder box labels that Clarence had printed up and >which he would apply to original Edison Blue Amberol boxes. One of Clarence's >original labels will be included with each book sold. There are a limited >number >of 100 labels available, so if you are interested please order soon. > The price is $12.50 including Media Mail shipping in the US. International >rates will be higher. Pament can be made by Paypal or by check. Please feel >free to ask questions. > Thanks > John Robles > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Help me cut a diaphragm!
Hi John, I use very sharp cuticle scissors. Harvey Kravitz From: john robles To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 6:40:06 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Help me cut a diaphragm! Hello all Can anyone suggest the best way to cut down a mica diaphragm with a minimum of splitting of the layers of mica? Every time I've cut mica in the past it seems to split. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola D-X flutter troubleshooting
Bill, I ran into a problem like that with my Edison Home. It turned out the governor had too much play. Also, lubricate the tensioner. That seems to be a part that gets neglected. Good luck, Harvey Kravitz From: William Taney To: Antique Phonograph List ; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 9:21:10 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola D-X flutter troubleshooting Got a question. I have a Amberola D-X that has a flutter or water sound when playing. I have made it a new belt, it is clean lubricated and the motor runs strong. The only thing I have to suspect is the mandrel pulley. Do those swell or become deformed. The mandrel pulley is pot metal and appears to have flakes, I cleaned it but am wondering if it is out of round? If you watch the motor run the tensioner moves in and out more than I would expect leading me to believe something is out of round or a shaft is bent... Any advice? Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union Want List
Hi Jerry, I have that Standard machine that you sold me. He can have it the same price I bought from you, $750.00 plus shipping. Thanks, Harvey From: DeeDee Blais To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 7:52:22 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Union Want List Does anyone have a nice little open works Standard disk machine for sale? I have a friend looking for one. Thanks, Jerry Blais ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Is this legit ?
I think this is a crapo-franken. I can't believe that this went for nearly $1100?!! all it takes are two idiots who want this thing bad enough. Harvey Kravitz From: "bruce78...@comcast.net" To: Phono-L Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 6:28:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Fwd: Is this legit ? http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-MagnavoxTable-Top-Victrola-4-A_W0QQitemZ150577724918QQcategoryZ38030QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8041154857892306133 I would have to say, I have really never seen anthing like this before. Is this really legit ? or is it some kind of Frankenphone? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disk stylus repair
Another way to test is to run your finger nail over the point. If the point scratched the finger nail, the point is bad. Use light pressure. Harvey Kravitz From: Rich To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 8:17:47 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disk stylus repair For those that have not noticed it being done. The standard dealer test of the condition of the DD diamond stylus is to run their dirty thumb over it and if it feels like there is a point on it they pronounce it "good". So, plan on buying a replacement bar or trashing the records. If you happen to have a good microscope you can inspect the point yourself for condition as it is a rounded end conical shape and is symmetric with no flat spots. On 03/19/2011 09:10 PM, Steven Medved wrote: > > If you buy a reproducer you can count on the diamond being bad, 2 and only 2 > of >the Diamond ABC reproducers I have rebuilt have had good diamonds, the rest >were >worn or damaged. I purchased an Edisonic on eBay with a good diamond and >recently I did a Dance and and Edisonic for a man and both diamonds were good. > >This is the exception rather than the rule. > > People think diamonds are indestructible but I NEVER play any DD record with >surface damage and I lower my stylus in the starting groove then I spin up the >record, and I stop the record before I raise the reproducer. > > When used as a stylus diamonds in DD reproducers are weak and must be > carefully >shielded from damage: > Toughness > Toughness relates to a material's ability to resist breakage from forceful >impact. The toughness of natural diamond has been measured as 3.4 MN >m-3/2,[10] >which is good compared to other gemstones, but poor compared to most >engineering >materials. As with any material, the macroscopic geometry of a diamond >contributes to its resistance to breakage. Diamond is therefore more fragile >in >some orientations than others. > > According to Edison Diamond Disc Re-Creations records& artists 1910-1929 > page >107: > > In this process the diamonds were first silver plated, then mounted on rods >with paraffin, plated for 72 hours with nickel layers electro deposited under >tension. The styli were thus held under layers of nickel at thousands of >pounds >of pressure. The nickel-encased diamonds were then polished to conical shape, >the nickel at the stylus point being found away as the diamond was polished. >The finished stylus was then soldered into its stylus bar. In the early days, >bare diamonds were just soldered into bars and were prone to breakage when >carelessly lowered onto the record. > > The original DD styli were soldered in, Edison stopped this practice when it >was noted that such diamonds were prone to damage when carelessly lowered onto >records. The earliest bars have the bare diamond soldered in; the later ones >were first plated with nickel and then soldered in. To understand this think >of >a wooden pencil the diamond is the lead. When the pencil is sharpened the >wood >is removed and the lead is shaped, the wood is the nickel and the lead is the >diamond. > > > > >> From: vinyl.visi...@live.com >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:18:09 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disk stylus repair >> >> >> I went through that whole thing with a DD player I had. I actually thought >> it >>would be better to buy an entire reproducer, because of the cost... but I >>bought >>it on eBay - it had a diamond, but it was bad - it played, but tore up >>records. >>It took buying three to get one decent one. There is no way to determine if >>an >>eBay seller actually knows if they are good or bad - some might, but more >>than >>likely, you will get one that someone else had trouble with. >> >> >> Buy one from a reputable phono guy like George Vollema in Michigan or Ron >>Sitko, its worth it. Even if you buy the stylus mounted on a needle bar - >>those >>reproducers are a pain to rebuild, especially removing and replacing the >>needle >>bar and trying not to break the little string that connects it... It takes a >>punch the size of a blunt needle to remove the pin, which is also rounded on >>the >>end and since they have been in there almost 100 yrs., they can be very >>aggravating. All in all, if you don't need more stress in your life, buy a >>rebuilt one from someone who knows how to do it - a jeweler most likely will >>not. >> >> >> Curt >> >> >> >>> From: kb...@charter.net >
Re: [Phono-L] Tonight on Turner Classic Movies
Thanks for the tip. I just bought it from Amazon.com Harvey Kravitz From: George Glastris To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 2:50:44 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Tonight on Turner Classic Movies The movie The Emperor Waltz is on tonight at 7 central on TCM. Bing Crosby plays a Victor salesman at the Court of Franz Joseph of Austria. Not the best of movies but worth catching if you can. http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index/?cid=377181 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040317/ - Original Message - From: "Tim McCormick" To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army-Navy DD > Darrell, > > I saw a rather distressed collection years ago where someone sawed > off the legs of an A-100 - came close to the correct size and all. :-) > > Talk to Stu Marsh ( durium...@aol.com ), he has a very nice > Army-Navy in his collection. Maybe he can help you with any questions you > have. > > Thanks, > > Tim > > Tim McCormick, President > Michigan Antique Phonograph Society > www.MAPS-ITG.org > presid...@maps-itg.org > > > -Original Message- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > On > Behalf Of Darrell Lehman > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:36 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Army-Navy DD > > Anybody got parts/pieces for an Edison Army-Navy DD? I know Stitt - > that's all there is to one - or anybody got a complete one for sale? > > thanks, Darrell > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
