[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?
Hi Al, Steve the reproducer nut here. This is the last type of the M, it was made into a trowel like the model O to reduce wear on the wax four minute records. There are at least four types of the M I know of. The first M has a flattened K type weight, I know of one that used to belong to Aaron Cramer. The second has the short turn over rod that is unique to the M with the M stamped on top of the round weight. The next type has the M stamped underneath with the short stem. The next has the long stem that is the same as the model O. The final version of the M has the trowel like the final version of the O. I will send you a photo of the early L and the info I have on the early L and M if you are interested. All I have are photos. Steve > From: cen...@comcast.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:16:27 -0800 > Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > > I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an > Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial > plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much > darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved > like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From cen...@comcast.net Mon Mar 2 15:16:13 2009 From: cen...@comcast.net (Albert) Date: Mon Mar 2 15:24:03 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? References: <176860.26718...@web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com><49abf186.3030...@mediaguide.com><49abf58e.2010...@cox.net><49ac1b3b.2000...@comcast.net><49ac57ac.6000...@comcast.net> <000401c99b84$8897d510$7501a...@albert> Message-ID: <000401c99b8c$e1bc98d0$7501a...@albert> Steve: I have seen model M's with nickel plated weights and also in the copper gun-metal finish. Can you tell by serial numbers when they were produced? - Original Message - From: "Steven Medved" To: "Phono-l" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? Hi Al, Steve the reproducer nut here. This is the last type of the M, it was made into a trowel like the model O to reduce wear on the wax four minute records. There are at least four types of the M I know of. The first M has a flattened K type weight, I know of one that used to belong to Aaron Cramer. The second has the short turn over rod that is unique to the M with the M stamped on top of the round weight. The next type has the M stamped underneath with the short stem. The next has the long stem that is the same as the model O. The final version of the M has the trowel like the final version of the O. I will send you a photo of the early L and the info I have on the early L and M if you are interested. All I have are photos. Steve > From: cen...@comcast.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:16:27 -0800 > Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > > I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an > Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial > plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much > darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved > like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?
Hi Al, The only M I have ever seen with the copper oxidized weight was the early one with the flattened K type weight. The highest serial number I have seen is 5595. Unfortunately I am just beginning my research on these, but if you know of any with the copper oxidized weight I am most interested in photos. The L had the oxidized weight, but I have never seen an M like that. Steve > From: cen...@comcast.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:16:13 -0800 > > Steve: I have seen model M's with nickel plated weights and also in the > copper gun-metal finish. Can you tell by serial numbers when they were > produced? > - Original Message - > From: "Steven Medved" > To: "Phono-l" > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:08 PM > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > > > > Hi Al, > > Steve the reproducer nut here. > > This is the last type of the M, it was made into a trowel like the model O > to reduce wear on the wax four minute records. > > There are at least four types of the M I know of. > > The first M has a flattened K type weight, I know of one that used to belong > to Aaron Cramer. > > The second has the short turn over rod that is unique to the M with the M > stamped on top of the round weight. > > The next type has the M stamped underneath with the short stem. > > The next has the long stem that is the same as the model O. > > The final version of the M has the trowel like the final version of the O. > > I will send you a photo of the early L and the info I have on the early L > and M if you are interested. All I have are photos. > > Steve > > > From: cen...@comcast.net > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:16:27 -0800 > > Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > > > > I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an > > Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial > > plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much > > darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved > > like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From allena...@aol.com Mon Mar 2 15:15:21 2009 From: allena...@aol.com (allena...@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 2 15:38:20 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/2/2009 6:09:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com cites: > I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an > Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? --- The Edison Amberola IA motor/chassis will not fit into a standard Edison Opera cabinet, since the mainspring barrels are too large and will hit the bottom of the case. So this cabinet must be a later re-make and the unusual side handles bear that out. Allen _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) **Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp0005) From thatc...@mediaguide.com Mon Mar 2 15:39:53 2009 From: thatc...@mediaguide.com (Thatcher Graham) Date: Mon Mar 2 15:40:55 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] main spring repacement In-Reply-To: References: <2009030224.86fb519c...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com> <49ac5eb0.3070...@mediaguide.com> Message-ID: <49ac6e49.3020...@mediaguide.com> I did, but that unit is too different from my Grafanola for me to really use it. My point was a little broader, that for all the brainpower here we seem to have little in the way of how-to documentation. Steven Medved wrote: > Did you see the one on youtube? > > >> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0500 >> From: thatc...@mediaguide.com >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] main spring repacement >> >> Has anyone on this list videotaped what they consider a standard >> mainspring replacement? Seems with the knowledge base in this group >> we'd have a whole how-to section on youtube and have pdfs with >> step-by-step instructions. >> >> -- Thatcher >> >> >> >> >> Thomas Edison wrote: >> >>> I have installed hundreds of mainsprings. I always wear gloves and safety >>&g
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?
Yes, it appears that the 1A motor will fit into the Opera or 1B or III cabinet. The 1A motor deck is about 1/2 inch longer and about 1/8 inch deeper, but the three mounting points seems to be in the proper location for either to mount in the same cabinets. I don't know about the Opera cabinet, but the console cabinets have spaces large enough around the motor deck to allow either motor to fit. And the crank locations also seem to be about the same. To exchange a 1A for an Opera, you would also have to exchange the horn connector stanchion to change from an inside to outside horn configuration. The late production of M and O reproducers were made with the trowel shaped weights. I think the factory actually re-worked some of the round weights into the trowel shape. I am working on an M now that clearly has had the weight cut down - the nickel plating is missing from the cut edges. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: "Albert" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? >I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an >Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial >plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much >darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved >like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?
Well I'm curious. Please, what is the story? -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Albert Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:42 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? No I dont remember, whats the story? - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > The 1-A will fit. Is this the one that caused all of the uproar several > years ago? Remember luvmyedisons? > > Albert wrote: >> I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an >> Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial >> plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much >> darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved >> like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 3/1/2009 5:46 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 3/1/2009 5:46 PM
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?
look at the case on this thing. Now compare it to a real opera case. See the difference? The handles have already been mentioned. This looks remarkably like the one that was sold or did not meet the reserve several years ago. The seller was luvmyedisons and that spelling may not be spot on either. the guy bought everything that hit the block and then turned around and tried to sell them at a profit. Rich Albert wrote: > I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an > Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial > plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much > darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been > shaved like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From glast...@comcast.net Tue Mar 3 02:49:28 2009 From: glast...@comcast.net (George Glastris) Date: Tue Mar 3 02:49:48 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? In-Reply-To: <49acc760.2030...@octoxol.com> References: <176860.26718...@web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <49abf186.3030...@mediaguide.com> <49abf58e.2010...@cox.net><49ac1b3b.2000...@comcast.net> <49ac57ac.6000...@comcast.net><000401c99b84$8897d510$7501a...@albert> <49acc760.2030...@octoxol.com> Message-ID: <11365169e953474cae11b314b5499...@glastrispc> The Looney Tune known as luvmyedisons was on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, so I don't believe this was the same one. - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > look at the case on this thing. Now compare it to a real opera case. See > the difference? The handles have already been mentioned. This looks > remarkably like the one that was sold or did not meet the reserve several > years ago. The seller was luvmyedisons and that spelling may not be spot > on either. the guy bought everything that hit the block and then turned > around and tried to sell them at a profit. > > Rich > > Albert wrote: >> I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an >> Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial >> plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much >> darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved >> like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?
often result in permanent losses of dexterities (I know firsthand - pun intended). >> >> I think Shane's video pretty much shows the gore and inevitable goo that one >> must contend with when confronting spring service and I am glad he posted it. >> >> Regards, >> Walt >> >> >> >> >> Chris Kocsis wrote: >>? ? >>> Hi all, I think this is it: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbPa-VWAzSY >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> Thatcher Graham wrote: >>>? ? ? >>>> Shane, >>>> >>>> If there's a youtube video that shows how to replace the mainspring that'd >>>> help me out. >>>> got a link? >>>> >>>> -- Thatcher >>>> >>>> shane nolan wrote: >>>>? ? ? ? >>>>> I know him well, because I am gramophoneshane! >>>>> I have NOT harrassed you. I have NOT spread rumours or lies about you, >>>>> and quite frankly, I am getting fed up with this kind of nonsense on >>>>> these forums. >>>>> I am the one being harrassed by a couple people from Boston, and it all >>>>> seems to come down to a youtube video I posted, showing the removal & >>>>> installation of a main spring. >>>>> I've obviously upset these "repairmen" by showing how easy spring removal >>>>> is. >>>>> >>>>> Now Bill, you have my email address. Please use it with proof of these >>>>> accusations you are making. >>>>> I am on a carers pension because I look after my elderly mother, who is >>>>> close to disabled herself, so why would I harrass anyone because they are >>>>> in a wheel chair? >>>>> Your claims are complete nonsense, and posting this sort of rubbish on >>>>> this & other boards is childish behaviour from someone who should know >>>>> better. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>? ? ? Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. >>>>>Take a look ___ >>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>>>? ? ? ? ? ? >>>> ___ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>> >>>>? ? ? ? >>> ___ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >>>? ? ? >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>? ? > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > -------- > > >? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From rich-m...@octoxol.com Tue Mar 3 10:19:33 2009 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com (Rich) Date: Tue Mar 3 10:19:38 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? In-Reply-To: <11365169e953474cae11b314b5499...@glastrispc> References: <176860.26718...@web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <49abf186.3030...@mediaguide.com> <49abf58e.2010...@cox.net><49ac1b3b.2000...@comcast.net> <49ac57ac.6000...@comcast.net><000401c99b84$8897d510$7501a...@albert> <49acc760.2030...@octoxol.com> <11365169e953474cae11b314b5499...@glastrispc> Message-ID: <49ad74b5.7040...@octoxol.com> He sold that machine after several attempts. I find it hard to believe there would be 2 of them with the same case and horrid handles. George Glastris wrote: > The Looney Tune known as luvmyedisons was on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, so > I don't believe this was the same one. > > - Original Message - From: "Rich" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > > >> look at the case on this thing. Now compare it to a real opera case. >> See the difference? The handles have already been mentioned. This >> looks remarkably like the one that was sold or did not meet the >> reserve several years ago. The seller was luvmyedisons and that >> spelling may not be spot on either. the guy bought everything that >> hit the block and then turned around and tried to
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison )
The person that is being called a Looney Tune:? ?His name was Steve Bovat and although?some may have had issues with him, I found my dealings with him were quite good. He always spent the time to drop me an email just to say hello and to wish me well.??I bought several items from him which are valuable to my collection. He always helped out when I needed a part that I had difficulty finding elsewhere. Apparently he had health issues which may contribute to the perception that some people had of him. I have never met Steve but I did not pass judgement. I know he was aware that negative comments were made on the forums about him and he expressed that he was very hurt from the comments as in his mind he was doing good for the phonograph community. My opinion that he did make some contribution to the hobby and meant well. I do not believe Steve is still with us anymore as I have not heard from him for a few years. Happy collecting. Herman Wedemire ? From: George Glastris To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:49:28 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? The Looney Tune known as luvmyedisons was on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, so I don't believe this was the same one. - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > look at the case on this thing.? Now compare it to a real opera case. See the > difference?? The handles have already been mentioned.? This looks remarkably > like the one that was sold or did not meet the reserve several years ago.? > The seller was luvmyedisons and that spelling may not be spot on either.? the > guy bought everything that? hit the block and then turned around and tried to > sell them at a profit. > > Rich > > Albert wrote: >> I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay.? Will an >> Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case?? of course the serial >> plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much >> darker.? Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved >> like a trowel, any comments?? AL Menashe >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From glast...@comcast.net Tue Mar 3 11:01:48 2009 From: glast...@comcast.net (George Glastris) Date: Tue Mar 3 11:02:11 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? In-Reply-To: <49ad74b5.7040...@octoxol.com> References: <176860.26718...@web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <49abf186.3030...@mediaguide.com> <49abf58e.2010...@cox.net><49ac1b3b.2000...@comcast.net> <49ac57ac.6000...@comcast.net><000401c99b84$8897d510$7501a...@albert> <49acc760.2030...@octoxol.com><11365169e953474cae11b314b5499...@glastrispc> <49ad74b5.7040...@octoxol.com> Message-ID: Oh, my mistake. I thought you meant he was offering it again. - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > He sold that machine after several attempts. I find it hard to believe > there would be 2 of them with the same case and horrid handles. > > George Glastris wrote: >> The Looney Tune known as luvmyedisons was on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, so >> I don't believe this was the same one. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Rich" >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? >> >> >>> look at the case on this thing. Now compare it to a real opera case. >>> See the difference? The handles have already been mentioned. This >>> looks remarkably like the one that was sold or did not meet the reserve >>> several years ago. The seller was luvmyedisons and that spelling may >>> not be spot on either. the guy bought everything that hit the block >>> and then turned around and tried to sell them at a profit. >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> Albert wrote: >>>> I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will >>>> an Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the >>>> serial plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A >>>> is much darker. Also I
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison )
Thank you. But won't somebody please tell the story of this mythical machine? I'm so very curious. Thanks, Jay -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Herman Wedemire Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:57 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison ) The person that is being called a Looney Tune:? ?His name was Steve Bovat and although?some may have had issues with him, I found my dealings with him were quite good. He always spent the time to drop me an email just to say hello and to wish me well.??I bought several items from him which are valuable to my collection. He always helped out when I needed a part that I had difficulty finding elsewhere. Apparently he had health issues which may contribute to the perception that some people had of him. I have never met Steve but I did not pass judgement. I know he was aware that negative comments were made on the forums about him and he expressed that he was very hurt from the comments as in his mind he was doing good for the phonograph community. My opinion that he did make some contribution to the hobby and meant well. I do not believe Steve is still with us anymore as I have not heard from him for a few years. Happy collecting. Herman Wedemire ? From: George Glastris To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:49:28 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? The Looney Tune known as luvmyedisons was on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, so I don't believe this was the same one. - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > look at the case on this thing.? Now compare it to a real opera case. See the difference?? The handles have already been mentioned.? This looks remarkably like the one that was sold or did not meet the reserve several years ago.? The seller was luvmyedisons and that spelling may not be spot on either.? the guy bought everything that? hit the block and then turned around and tried to sell them at a profit. > > Rich > > Albert wrote: >> I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay.? Will an Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case?? of course the serial plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much darker.? Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved like a trowel, any comments?? AL Menashe >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.6/1981 - Release Date: 3/3/2009 7:25 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.6/1981 - Release Date: 3/3/2009 7:25 AM
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison )
Hi Jay, This is Harvey Kravitz. Are you going to be at the OTAPS meeting on on 14 JAN 09? Are you bringing any good stuff? Take care, Harvey --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Jay Horenstein wrote: From: Jay Horenstein Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison ) To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 3:25 PM Thank you. But won't somebody please tell the story of this mythical machine? I'm so very curious. Thanks, Jay -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Herman Wedemire Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:57 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison ) The person that is being called a Looney Tune:? ?His name was Steve Bovat and although?some may have had issues with him, I found my dealings with him were quite good. He always spent the time to drop me an email just to say hello and to wish me well.??I bought several items from him which are valuable to my collection. He always helped out when I needed a part that I had difficulty finding elsewhere. Apparently he had health issues which may contribute to the perception that some people had of him. I have never met Steve but I did not pass judgement. I know he was aware that negative comments were made on the forums about him and he expressed that he was very hurt from the comments as in his mind he was doing good for the phonograph community. My opinion that he did make some contribution to the hobby and meant well. I do not believe Steve is still with us anymore as I have not heard from him for a few years. Happy collecting. Herman Wedemire ? From: George Glastris To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:49:28 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? The Looney Tune known as luvmyedisons was on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, so I don't believe this was the same one. - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > look at the case on this thing.? Now compare it to a real opera case. See the difference?? The handles have already been mentioned.? This looks remarkably like the one that was sold or did not meet the reserve several years ago.? The seller was luvmyedisons and that spelling may not be spot on either.? the guy bought everything that? hit the block and then turned around and tried to sell them at a profit. > > Rich > > Albert wrote: >> I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay.? Will an Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case?? of course the serial plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much darker.? Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved like a trowel, any comments?? AL Menashe >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.6/1981 - Release Date: 3/3/2009 7:25 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.6/1981 - Release Date: 3/3/2009 7:25 AM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From pjfra...@alamedanet.net Tue Mar 3 21:40:40 2009 From: pjfra...@alamedanet.net (Peter Fraser) Date: Tue Mar 3 22:02:32 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison ) In-Reply-To: <235812.11023...@web88301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <176860.26718...@web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <49abf186.3030...@mediaguide.com> <49abf58e.2010...@cox.net><49ac1b3b.2000...@comcast.net> <49ac57ac.6000...@comcast.net><000401c99b84$8897d510$7501a...@albert> <49acc760.2030...@octoxol.com> <11365169e953474cae11b314b5499...@glastrispc> <235812.11023...@web88301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: seems like he may still be alive, just not active. on the social security death index, it's interesting to note that almost every Bovat who had an SSN and has passed away, is in New England. extremely localized family. http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=BOVAT&start=1 but no steve or steven or stephen, or even first initial S. and there's a steve bovat who owns a flooring company in Sandwich M
[Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison )
Steve Bovat FLOORS UNLIMITED 185 FARMERSVILLE RD SANDWICH, MA? 02563 ? I just tried calling him. A child answered the phone but Steve was not at home. Left message for him to call me. ? ? ? From: "phonofo...@aol.com" To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 9:15:56 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison ) Does Steven live in Forestdale, MA? If it's the same Steven so he is 50 years old and still alive. -Original Message- From: Peter Fraser To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:40 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? ( Luv My Edison ) seems like he may still be alive, just not active.? ? on the social security death index, it's interesting to note that almost every Bovat who had an SSN and has passed away, is in New England. extremely localized family.? ? http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=BOVAT&start=1? ? but no steve or steven or stephen, or even first initial S.? ? and there's a steve bovat who owns a flooring company in Sandwich MA:? ? http://start.cortera.com/company/research/k2p7rzs6k/floors-unlimited/? ? ? On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Herman Wedemire wrote:? ? > The person that is being called a Looney Tune:? >? > His name was Steve Bovat and although some may have had issues with > him, I > found my dealings with him were quite good. He always spent > the time to > drop me an email just to say hello and to wish me well. > I bought several > items from him which are valuable to my collection. > He always helped out > when I needed a part that I had difficulty > finding elsewhere. Apparently he > had health issues which may > contribute to the perception that some people > had of him. I have > never met Steve but I did not pass judgement. I know he > was aware > that negative comments were made on the forums about him and he > > expressed that he was very hurt from the comments as in his mind he > was > doing good for the phonograph community. My opinion that he did > make some > contribution to the hobby and meant well.? > I do not believe Steve is still with us anymore as I have not heard > from > him for a few years.? >? > Happy collecting.? > Herman Wedemire? >? >? >? >? >? >? > ____________? > From: George Glastris ? > To: Antique Phonograph List ? > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:49:28 AM? > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?? >? > The Looney Tune known as luvmyedisons was on Cape Cod, > Massachusetts, so I > don't believe this was the same one.? >? > - Original Message - From: "Rich" ? > To: "Antique Phonograph List" ? > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:00 AM? > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph?? >? >? >> look at the case on this thing. Now compare it to a real opera >> case. See >> the difference? The handles have already been >> mentioned. This looks >> remarkably like the one that was sold or did >> not meet the reserve several >> years ago. The seller was >> luvmyedisons and that spelling may not be spot >> on either. the guy >> bought everything that hit the block and then turned >> around and >> tried to sell them at a profit.? >>? >> Rich? >>? >> Albert wrote:? >>> I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. >>> Will an >>> Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of >>> course the serial >>> plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera >>> correct, my 1-A is much >>> darker. Also I have never seen a model M >>> reproducer that has been >>> shaved like a trowel, any comments? AL >>> Menashe? >>> ___? >>> Phono-L mailing list? >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? >>>? >>>? >> ___? >> Phono-L mailing list? >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? >>? >? >? > ___? > Phono-L mailing list? > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? >? > ___? > Phono-L mailing list? > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? ? ? -- Peter? pjfra...@alamedanet.net? ? ___? Phono-L mailing list? http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From jay.horenst...@gmail.com Wed Mar 4 11:46:44 2009 From: jay.horenst...@gmail.com (Jay Horenstein) Date: Wed Mar 4 11:47:14 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia AH w/ Talk-o-
