[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
Hi, I received the below e-mail directly to my e-mail address, does eBay give out e-mails if you are not involved in a transaction with a person? I like how he lives in Chicago, but is Europe on business so I can wire him cash there. Steve Hello Miss / Mr. I`m disturbing you with the best offer you can get regarding EDISON TRYIMPH MODEL E CYLINDER MACHINE (Item#2218033782) All i`m asking is a few minutes to listen about what i have to say. I wish to let you know that i have the same item like the one you`re looking for at a lower price. For mass purchase i can give you a very good disccount, 15% up to 30%. I live in Chicago,but for the moment i am in Europe with some business.If we`re going to make a transaction i think you must know from the start my propose for our deal: 1.SHIPPMENT : There are 3 options of delivery services that are very fast : - UPS 2 days air insured - FedEx 2 days air insured - DHL air Any of those services are good, but I personaly prefere UPS 2 days air, if you have other preference, there is no problem. 2. PAYMENT : For payment, the fastest way to send money worldwide is Western Union wire transfer. To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to an Western Union or you can make it online , at www.westernunion.com. >From Western Union , you will receive a number (MTCN Money Transfer Control >Number), you must send me that number as soon as you have arranged the payment so I can go to www.westernunion.com to see if the transaction is arranged. As soon as I have verifyed the transaction, I will ship you the package with all the accesories with the delivery service selected by you. For the reason that you will pay some money for the Western Union wire transfer fee, I will cover shipping and insurance. 3. INSURANCE The package will be insured at the delivery service for the amount of the value of the package. If somethig happens on the road , you will receive the insurance from the delivery service. 4. RETURN POLICY As soon as the package arrives, you will test the products and if it does not matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 5 days sience the arrival date. In this case I will send you the full amount back and you will send me the products in the original box.The shipping will be made via UPS 2 days air or FedEx 2 days air and I will pay the taxesand insurance charges. If you`re interested please email me back with your concerns or questions and i will make my best to give you the clearest answers as soon as possible. Sorry if i have made you trouble and have a nice day! Thank You in advance for your patience! Best Regards! === This request is related to item # 2218033782 . === Note: Immediately contact Rules & Safety http://www.ebay.com.sg/help?page=helpPolicies if one of eBay's rules were violated, such as: - Your contact information was used for purposes unrelated to eBay business, published online or offline, or was used for the purposes of harassment. - You received contact information which you believe to be erroneous. Thank you for using eBay! http://www.ebay.com.sg/
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
Hello Steve Your solicitor should not have been able to get your email address from Ebay without a transaction being involved. Ebay has forced people from using their email address as their usernames to minimize the unsolitced emails especially the ones asking for you to log in to Ebay using your PW. I changes mine in the fall at the request of Ebay and ahead of their forced deadline. Were you were soliticed previously about an auction where they could have obtained your email address and then solicit as a different person. BTW, haven't spoken to you in a while and hope everything is fine. Happy collecting, Eric Steven Medved wrote: >Hi, > >I received the below e-mail directly to my e-mail address, does eBay give out >e-mails if you are not involved in a transaction with a person? I like how he >lives in Chicago, but is Europe on business so I can wire him cash there. > >Steve > > >Hello Miss / Mr. >I`m disturbing you with the best offer you can get regarding EDISON TRYIMPH >MODEL E CYLINDER MACHINE (Item#2218033782) >All i`m asking is a few minutes to listen about what i have to say. >I wish to let you know that i have the same item like the one you`re looking >for at a lower price. >For mass purchase i can give you a very good disccount, 15% up to 30%. >I live in Chicago,but for the moment i am in Europe with some business.If >we`re going to make a transaction i think you must know from the start my >propose for our deal: >1.SHIPPMENT : >There are 3 options of delivery services that are very fast : >- UPS 2 days air insured >- FedEx 2 days air insured >- DHL air >Any of those services are good, but I personaly prefere UPS 2 days air, if you >have other preference, there is no problem. >2. PAYMENT : >For payment, the fastest way to send money worldwide is Western Union wire >transfer. To arrange the transfer, you must go in >person to an Western Union or you can make it online , at >www.westernunion.com. >>From Western Union , you will receive a number (MTCN Money Transfer Control >>Number), you must send me that >number as soon as you have arranged the payment so I >can go to www.westernunion.com to see if the transaction is >arranged. As soon as I have verifyed the transaction, I will ship you the >package with all the accesories with the delivery service selected by you. For >the reason that you will pay some money for the >Western Union wire transfer fee, I will cover shipping and insurance. >3. INSURANCE >The package will be insured at the delivery service for the amount of the >value of the package. If somethig happens on the road , you will receive the >insurance from the delivery service. >4. RETURN POLICY >As soon as the package arrives, you will test the products and if it does not >matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 5 days sience >the arrival date. In this case I will send you >the full amount back and you will send me the products in the original box.The >shipping will be made via UPS 2 days air or FedEx 2 days air and I will pay >the taxesand insurance charges. >If you`re interested please email me back with your concerns or questions and >i will make my best to give you the clearest answers as soon as possible. >Sorry if i have made you trouble and have a nice day! >Thank You in advance for your patience! >Best Regards! > > >=== >This request is related to item # 2218033782 . >=== > >Note: Immediately contact Rules & Safety >http://www.ebay.com.sg/help?page=helpPolicies if one of eBay's >rules were violated, such as: >- Your contact information was used for purposes unrelated to eBay business, >published online or offline, or was used for the purposes of harassment. >- You received contact information which you believe to be erroneous. > >Thank you for using eBay! >http://www.ebay.com.sg/ > >___ >Phono-l mailing list >phon...@oldcrank.com >http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > > >
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
I've heard of this scam. It reads like a boilerplate. Notice the part about discounts for "mass purchase?" Like he has several Triumph Model E's lying around ;) In general, be suspicious of any unsolicited offers! Loran Steven Medved wrote: >Hi, > >I received the below e-mail directly to my e-mail address, does eBay give out >e-mails if you are not involved in a transaction with a person? I like how he >lives in Chicago, but is Europe on business so I can wire him cash there. > >Steve > > >Hello Miss / Mr. >I`m disturbing you with the best offer you can get regarding EDISON TRYIMPH >MODEL E CYLINDER MACHINE (Item#2218033782) >All i`m asking is a few minutes to listen about what i have to say. >I wish to let you know that i have the same item like the one you`re looking >for at a lower price. >For mass purchase i can give you a very good disccount, 15% up to 30%. >I live in Chicago,but for the moment i am in Europe with some business.If >we`re going to make a transaction i think you must know from the start my >propose for our deal: >1.SHIPPMENT : >There are 3 options of delivery services that are very fast : >- UPS 2 days air insured >- FedEx 2 days air insured >- DHL air >Any of those services are good, but I personaly prefere UPS 2 days air, if you >have other preference, there is no problem. >2. PAYMENT : >For payment, the fastest way to send money worldwide is Western Union wire >transfer. To arrange the transfer, you must go in >person to an Western Union or you can make it online , at >www.westernunion.com. >>From Western Union , you will receive a number (MTCN Money Transfer Control >>Number), you must send me that >number as soon as you have arranged the payment so I >can go to www.westernunion.com to see if the transaction is >arranged. As soon as I have verifyed the transaction, I will ship you the >package with all the accesories with the delivery service selected by you. For >the reason that you will pay some money for the >Western Union wire transfer fee, I will cover shipping and insurance. >3. INSURANCE >The package will be insured at the delivery service for the amount of the >value of the package. If somethig happens on the road , you will receive the >insurance from the delivery service. >4. RETURN POLICY >As soon as the package arrives, you will test the products and if it does not >matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 5 days sience >the arrival date. In this case I will send you >the full amount back and you will send me the products in the original box.The >shipping will be made via UPS 2 days air or FedEx 2 days air and I will pay >the taxesand insurance charges. >If you`re interested please email me back with your concerns or questions and >i will make my best to give you the clearest answers as soon as possible. >Sorry if i have made you trouble and have a nice day! >Thank You in advance for your patience! >Best Regards! > > >=== >This request is related to item # 2218033782 . >=== > >Note: Immediately contact Rules & Safety >http://www.ebay.com.sg/help?page=helpPolicies if one of eBay's >rules were violated, such as: >- Your contact information was used for purposes unrelated to eBay business, >published online or offline, or was used for the purposes of harassment. >- You received contact information which you believe to be erroneous. > >Thank you for using eBay! >http://www.ebay.com.sg/ > > > > >
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
stefve I would be careful of this deal - Original Message - From: "Steven Medved" To: "Phono-l" ; "phonolist" Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer > Hi, > > I received the below e-mail directly to my e-mail address, does eBay give out e-mails if you are not involved in a transaction with a person? I like how he lives in Chicago, but is Europe on business so I can wire him cash there. > > Steve > > > Hello Miss / Mr. > I`m disturbing you with the best offer you can get regarding EDISON TRYIMPH MODEL E CYLINDER MACHINE (Item#2218033782) > All i`m asking is a few minutes to listen about what i have to say. > I wish to let you know that i have the same item like the one you`re looking for at a lower price. > For mass purchase i can give you a very good disccount, 15% up to 30%. > I live in Chicago,but for the moment i am in Europe with some business.If we`re going to make a transaction i think you must know from the start my propose for our deal: > 1.SHIPPMENT : > There are 3 options of delivery services that are very fast : > - UPS 2 days air insured > - FedEx 2 days air insured > - DHL air > Any of those services are good, but I personaly prefere UPS 2 days air, if you have other preference, there is no problem. > 2. PAYMENT : > For payment, the fastest way to send money worldwide is Western Union wire transfer. To arrange the transfer, you must go in > person to an Western Union or you can make it online , at www.westernunion.com. > >From Western Union , you will receive a number (MTCN Money Transfer Control Number), you must send me that > number as soon as you have arranged the payment so I > can go to www.westernunion.com to see if the transaction is arranged. As soon as I have verifyed the transaction, I will ship you the package with all the accesories with the delivery service selected by you. F or the reason that you will pay some money for the > Western Union wire transfer fee, I will cover shipping and insurance. > 3. INSURANCE > The package will be insured at the delivery service for the amount of the value of the package. If somethig happens on the road , you will receive the insurance from the delivery service. > 4. RETURN POLICY > As soon as the package arrives, you will test the products and if it does not matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 5 days sience the arrival date. In this case I will send you > the full amount back and you will send me the products in the original box.The shipping will be made via UPS 2 days air or FedEx 2 days air and I will pay the taxesand insurance charges. > If you`re interested please email me back with your concerns or questions and i will make my best to give you the clearest answers as soon as possible. Sorry if i have made you trouble and have a nice day! > Thank You in advance for your patience! > Best Regards! > > > === > This request is related to item # 2218033782 . > === > > Note: Immediately contact Rules & Safety http://www.ebay.com.sg/help?page=helpPolicies if one of eBay's rules were violated, such as: > - Your contact information was used for purposes unrelated to eBay business, published online or offline, or was used for the purposes of harassment. > - You received contact information which you believe to be erroneous. > > Thank you for using eBay! > http://www.ebay.com.sg/ > > ___ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
> I've heard of this scam. It reads like a boilerplate. Notice the part > about discounts for "mass purchase?" Like he has several Triumph Model > E's lying around ;) > > In general, be suspicious of any unsolicited offers! > > Loran I'd say in general be wary of offers that give you such detailed shipping and payment instructions before you've even said you're interested.I think even a blind Grandmother would have trouble believing this one. Eric Stott
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
I get at least 2 of these offers a week from people stating they have the same phonograph that I bid on and they can sell it to me cheaper. Always overseas. I email them back telling them to ship me the item and then I would pay upon delivery. Of course I never hear back from them. Most of these EBAY scams are extremely transparent. I am not sure who would fall for them.
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
eBay let's you send a note to anyone (those you have had a transaction with and those you have not). eBay sends the email to the person through their system, and the receiver gets the sender's direct email with the email, but the sender does not get the receiver's until that person chooses to write back to you. On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:46:36 -0500 (EST) writes: > > I've heard of this scam. It reads like a boilerplate. Notice the > part > > about discounts for "mass purchase?" Like he has several Triumph > Model > > E's lying around ;) > > > > In general, be suspicious of any unsolicited offers! > > > > Loran > I'd say in general be wary of offers that give you such detailed > shipping > and payment instructions before you've even said you're interested.I > think even a blind Grandmother would have trouble believing this > one. > > Eric Stott > > > > ___ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > >
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
In a message dated 1/17/2004 1:42:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, lo...@oldcrank.com writes: I've heard of this scam. It reads like a boilerplate. Notice the part about discounts for "mass purchase?" Like he has several Triumph Model E's lying around ;) I picked up on this too. I wish someone did have a stash of those. Randy From steve_noreen Sat Jan 17 22:58:55 2004 From: steve_noreen (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:30 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer References: <40098045.2090...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: Loran, Perhaps he has consecutively serial numbered E's offered as part of his mass purchase plan. A friend in Canada that bids on music boxes has gotten offers from the same person, except his discount was only 10% while mine was 15 to 30%. I cannot believe the thief would think people are so foolish. Steve I've heard of this scam. It reads like a boilerplate. Notice the part about discounts for "mass purchase?" Like he has several Triumph Model E's lying around ;) In general, be suspicious of any unsolicited offers! Loran
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
Steve: This kind of reminds me of those Nigerian scams that establish bank accounts in Europe. The odd twist is, the sentence structure of the seller is much like those fellows that sell crap-o-phones out of Shanghai. -Phil
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
I notice that many of the Chinese machines are from the Qing Dynasty. What are the dates of the Qing Dynasty? And why do so many have multiple horns? :) Ray - Original Message - From: "Phil O'Keefe" To: "Antique phonograph discussion list for pre-1930 phonographs" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer > Steve: > > This kind of reminds me of those Nigerian scams that establish bank accounts > in Europe. The odd twist is, the sentence structure of the seller is much > like those fellows that sell crap-o-phones out of Shanghai. > > -Phil > > > ___ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com >
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
Ray Wilenzick wrote: >I notice that many of the Chinese machines are from the Qing Dynasty. What >are the dates of the Qing Dynasty? >And why do so many have multiple horns? :) >Ray > > Qing Dynasty = 1644-1911. The reason for multiple horns is that they invented stereophonic phonographs while Victor was putzing around with the Victrola ;) Loran
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
In a message dated 1/18/2004 10:10:39 AM Mountain Standard Time, lo...@oldcrank.com writes: >I notice that many of the Chinese machines are from the Qing Dynasty. What >are the dates of the Qing Dynasty? >And why do so many have multiple horns? :) >Ray > > Qing Dynasty = 1644-1911. The reason for multiple horns is that they invented stereophonic phonographs while Victor was putzing around with the Victrola ;) Loran Loran, You are always coming up with childish answers. The REAL reason is that when you ate the horns they had an aphrodesiac effect and that's why there are so many people in China. Art Heller From loran Sun Jan 18 11:34:12 2004 From: loran (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:30 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer In-Reply-To: <8a.179b2ea.2d3c1...@aol.com> References: <8a.179b2ea.2d3c1...@aol.com> Message-ID: <400ac2e7.3010...@oldcrank.com> aph4...@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 1/18/2004 10:10:39 AM Mountain Standard Time, >lo...@oldcrank.com writes: > > >>I notice that many of the Chinese machines are from the Qing Dynasty. What >>are the dates of the Qing Dynasty? >>And why do so many have multiple horns? :) >>Ray >> >> >> >> >Qing Dynasty = 1644-1911. The reason for multiple horns is that they >invented stereophonic phonographs while Victor was putzing around with >the Victrola ;) > >Loran >Loran, >You are always coming up with childish answers. The REAL reason is that when >you ate the horns they had an aphrodesiac effect and that's why there are so >many people in China. > >Art Heller > > Ha! A lot you know about oriental culture, Art! Everyone knows the aphrodesiac effects are in the reproducer ;) Loran
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
In a message dated 1/18/2004 10:34:43 AM Mountain Standard Time, lo...@oldcrank.com writes: Ha! A lot you know about oriental culture, Art! Everyone knows the aphrodesiac effects are in the reproducer ;) Not if there is a diaphragm in the reproducer Art From loran Sun Jan 18 11:39:59 2004 From: loran (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:30 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer In-Reply-To: <1e1.17a24afe.2d3c1...@aol.com> References: <1e1.17a24afe.2d3c1...@aol.com> Message-ID: <400ac499.6020...@oldcrank.com> aph4...@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 1/18/2004 10:34:43 AM Mountain Standard Time, >lo...@oldcrank.com writes: >Ha! A lot you know about oriental culture, Art! Everyone knows the >aphrodesiac effects are in the reproducer ;) >Not if there is a diaphragm in the reproducer > >Art > > You got me there, Doc! Loran
[Phono-L] Person trying to cheat me with triumph offer
Steve: They are like sharks swimming in the waters! -Phil On 1/18/04 11:14 PM, "Steven Medved" wrote: > Hi Phil, > > I just got another offer: > > Hi, > I saw that you are interested to buy this EDISON TRYIMPH MODEL E CYLINDER > MACHINE and I have to tell you that I have the same item and I don't know how > to sell it faster.I am selling it for a low price (1500$) so please let me > know if you are interested. > thanks, > > I have MSN so I junked the e-mail. > > Steve > Steve: > > This kind of reminds me of those Nigerian scams that establish bank accounts > in Europe. The odd twist is, the sentence structure of the seller is much > like those fellows that sell crap-o-phones out of Shanghai. > > -Phil > > ___ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
