[PHP] [php-general] gibberish output when using the loadHTMLFile() function.
Hi there!! When I'm trying to load an external html document with the loadHTMLFile() function and then I use the saveHTML() function to output its content, some text in the external html document which is written in hebrew is displayed in a gibberish format. is anyone here has an idea how to solve this problem? NOTE: the document itself is encoded in utf-8 character set. Thanks in advance!! atar. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net not working?
The bottom of my daily digest email says to unsubscribe, I should email php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net I've done this several times -- sometimes with various combinations of blank and unsubscribe in the subject line and body. I keep getting the emails though. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net not working?
On 4 November 2010 16:00, Marc Abramowitz ma...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: The bottom of my daily digest email says to unsubscribe, I should email php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net I've done this several times -- sometimes with various combinations of blank and unsubscribe in the subject line and body. I keep getting the emails though. That will unsubscribe you from the digest. Are you getting digest messages or individual messages? -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:00, Marc Abramowitz ma...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: The bottom of my daily digest email says to unsubscribe, I should email php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net I've done this several times -- sometimes with various combinations of blank and unsubscribe in the subject line and body. I keep getting the emails though. As Richard pointed out, that will only unsubscribe you from the digest version. To unsubscribe from the regular every-email version, you can either send an email to php-general-unsubscr...@lists.php.net or go to http://php.net/mailinglists, select the General list, select Normal and scroll to the bottom, enter the email address associated with the list, and click the Unsubscribe button. If you continue to have issues, let me know and I will remove you. -- /Daniel P. Brown Dedicated Servers, Cloud and Cloud Hybrid Solutions, VPS, Hosting (866-) 725-4321 http://www.parasane.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:33, Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net wrote: If you continue to have issues, let me know and I will remove you. From the list, that is, to be clear. Not the Earth. -- /Daniel P. Brown Dedicated Servers, Cloud and Cloud Hybrid Solutions, VPS, Hosting (866-) 725-4321 http://www.parasane.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 12:34 -0400, Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:33, Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net wrote: If you continue to have issues, let me know and I will remove you. From the list, that is, to be clear. Not the Earth. i lol'd. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 12:34:35PM -0400, Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:33, Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net wrote: If you continue to have issues, let me know and I will remove you. From the list, that is, to be clear. Not the Earth. Dang! I was just about to send you a list of people to remove! ;-} Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 12:34:35PM -0400, Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:33, Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net wrote: If you continue to have issues, let me know and I will remove you. From the list, that is, to be clear. Not the Earth. Dang! I was just about to send you a list of people to remove! ;-} Paul Lord-a-mercy, yes!!! Daniel, what license for this service? BSD? CC? GPL? :-D Kevin Kinsey -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[PHP] php-general mail server on blackhole list
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Re: [PHP] php-general mail server on blackhole list
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:52, The Doctordoc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote: 13 RCVD_IN_JMF_BL RBL: Sender listed in JMF-BLACK [216.92.131.4 listed in hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com] truns up in my spamc test. Please fix! I've processed the removal from their erroneous blacklist, but in the future, please report things such as this to webmas...@php.net, as the traffic on each individual list usually overshadows such reports. Thanks, Doc. -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ Check out our great hosting and dedicated server deals at http://twitter.com/pilotpig -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
Lenin wrote: Yeah gmail is a nice thing :) The best ever mailing system world has ever seen until now. Because now you can get new LeninMail from phpXperts - it works offline, it works in your fridge, you car, your bath, everywhere conventional mail doesn't work. LeninMail combines all the power of E with all the functionality of G to give you a new experience unparalleled by any other technology. Sheena from Cambridge: LeninMail is sooo good, all I need is one spoonful in my bath and I'm ready to communicate, stubborn limescale used to be a real headache, but now I just LeninMail it away. James Smith JNR from Ghana LeninMail is amazing - its handy SendAnythingAnywhere feature has allowed me to be lmailing my grade A spam from everywhere I go - and with LeninMails ForceItThrough technology I know my spam will be penetrating millions of peoples brains in seconds. LMail has made me rich and now I have 60 million that I need to transfer to you, all you need to do is send me a 1% security fee to.. L is over FIVE letters after G and even more than E - so much power - such bigger numbers. BANG and the mail is gone. Get LeninMail from all good phpXperts stockists NOW! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
Hahaha quite Hilarious. le...@phpxperts.net is also hosted by Google Apps :P Its the Largest active PHP group in South Asia (originated from Bangladesh). Participated by thousands from many other countries. Keep the humor on! :D
Re: [PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
That's how you help information-monster-privacy-killing-companies to gain more control... You use GMail? ever visited blogspot? search on Google? Visit half of the leading sites of the world (since they have Google Analytics) or visit the other half that have Google Adsense or both of them? Maybe you use Google Chrome? Google Earth? Google Desktop? Android? Google _? You think that it? now it aims for you, the programmers. Use the nice Google AJAX API? so comfortable, lightweight Yes, now Google can collect MORE information. Yes? thank you by helping Google. if you use Google softwares, please click CTRL+ALT+DELETE, go to proccess, look for GoogleUpdate.exe and wonder why is it there? oh, now you remember? use Google Earth/Desktop/ ? Thank you for helping Google in another step for becoming an information-monster. If anyone wants - I made a presentation about Privacy and how Google infiltrates your privacy. (I know someone will smile and say but hey - you use Gmail. I'll just smile back and say that using gmail isn't bad - but using Google all the time IS bad). Watch how many large organizations have protested about Google way (of tracking you, as individiual, for over 18 months). Now someone again will point that What do I mind if they are following me? I am not doing anything illegal. No, I am not saying the government will use this information - The FBI have asked all search engines to give him data about searches that might relate to criminal activities. they all gave. Except Google. What do they do with this information? Google Adsense, Analytics, News, Search, Images, API, Code. Blogspot, Adwords, should I continue this list of Google products that I am sure that each one of you was exposed to? On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Lenin le...@phpxperts.net wrote: Yeah gmail is a nice thing :) The best ever mailing system world has ever seen until now. -- Use ROT26 for best security
Re: [PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
LOL good points indeed! But I dont use other Google products that much. But yes I'm helping google in some way. One great satisfaction I have is I use Ubuntu with FireFox. :)
Re: [PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer th.he...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. Here's an invitation to create an account. if you send me mail on here it will probably be more secure than over the rest of the network. just let me know what the new address will be in case you change mail providers. --- Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a free Google Mail account. To accept this invitation and register for your account, visit http://mail.google.com/mail/a-f5f2afb0c7-9207f3d89b-bd8bac4aaf494e87 Once you create your account, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer will be notified with your new email address so you can stay in touch with Google Mail! If you haven't already heard about Google Mail, it's a new search-based webmail service that offers: - Over 2,700 megabytes (two gigabytes) of free storage - Built-in Google search that instantly finds any message you want - Automatic arrangement of messages and related replies into conversations - Powerful spam protection using innovative Google technology - No large, annoying ads--just small text ads and related pages that are relevant to the content of your messages To learn more about Google Mail before registering, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en_GB/benefits.html We're still working every day to improve Google Mail, so we might ask for your comments and suggestions periodically. We hope you'll like Google Mail. We do. And, it's only going to get better. Thanks, The Google Mail Team (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste them into the address bar of your browser). -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Lol, I don't think the mailing list can sign up for gmail. -- --Zootboy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
Yeah gmail is a nice thing :) The best ever mailing system world has ever seen until now.
Re: [PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Lenin le...@phpxperts.net wrote: Yeah gmail is a nice thing :) The best ever mailing system world has ever seen until now. Agreed. -- --Zootboy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php-general@lists.php.net, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a Google mail account
I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. Here's an invitation to create an account. if you send me mail on here it will probably be more secure than over the rest of the network. just let me know what the new address will be in case you change mail providers. --- Tim-Hinnerk Heuer has invited you to open a free Google Mail account. To accept this invitation and register for your account, visit http://mail.google.com/mail/a-f5f2afb0c7-9207f3d89b-bd8bac4aaf494e87 Once you create your account, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer will be notified with your new email address so you can stay in touch with Google Mail! If you haven't already heard about Google Mail, it's a new search-based webmail service that offers: - Over 2,700 megabytes (two gigabytes) of free storage - Built-in Google search that instantly finds any message you want - Automatic arrangement of messages and related replies into conversations - Powerful spam protection using innovative Google technology - No large, annoying ads--just small text ads and related pages that are relevant to the content of your messages To learn more about Google Mail before registering, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en_GB/benefits.html We're still working every day to improve Google Mail, so we might ask for your comments and suggestions periodically. We hope you'll like Google Mail. We do. And, it's only going to get better. Thanks, The Google Mail Team (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste them into the address bar of your browser). -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general-sc.1237291233.npmhceaklghpccnefjed-born2victory=gmail....@lists.php.net
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[PHP] PHP General
Did this list get a new server? Just wondering because lately my posts have been showing up within 1 or 2 minutes and they haven't done that in years. So either PHP General got a new zippy server or the mail system was quarantining my mails before I fixed my DNS (which had some issues I didn't notice until a few days ago :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 18:55 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: Did this list get a new server? Just wondering because lately my posts have been showing up within 1 or 2 minutes and they haven't done that in years. So either PHP General got a new zippy server or the mail system was quarantining my mails before I fixed my DNS (which had some issues I didn't notice until a few days ago :) 1 minute 10 seconds for that post to show up... wh! :B Rob, -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php-general mailing list active?
Would someone kindly let me know if there is activity on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have not gotten posts for a few days now, and I'm having no luck connecting to the help, owner or admin addresses. Thanks, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general mailing list active?
maybe you should resubscribe :) on Tuesday 22 August 2006 16:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone kindly let me know if there is activity on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have not gotten posts for a few days now, and I'm having no luck connecting to the help, owner or admin addresses. Thanks, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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RE: [PHP] php-general mailing list active?
Would someone kindly let me know if there is activity on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have not gotten posts for a few days now, and I'm having no luck connecting to the help, owner or admin addresses. Thanks Jochem, Thomas, and Jay. Anybody know Wez Furlong's email address? I had this problem once before, and I recall he was the guy who finally figured out what went awry. David -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Check out lists.php.net On 8/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone kindly let me know if there is activity on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have not gotten posts for a few days now, and I'm having no luck connecting to the help, owner or admin addresses. Thanks Jochem, Thomas, and Jay. Anybody know Wez Furlong's email address? I had this problem once before, and I recall he was the guy who finally figured out what went awry. David -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general mailing list active?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone kindly let me know if there is activity on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have not gotten posts for a few days now, and I'm having no luck connecting to the help, owner or admin addresses. Thanks Jochem, Thomas, and Jay. Anybody know Wez Furlong's email address? I had this problem once before, and I recall he was the guy who finally figured out what went awry. getting his email addr is easy - but I doubt he is looking forward to your mail asking him to 'fix' the generals mailing list ... would just resubscribe. David -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general mailing list active?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone kindly let me know if there is activity on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have not gotten posts for a few days now, and I'm having no luck connecting to the help, owner or admin addresses. Thanks Jochem, Thomas, and Jay. Anybody know Wez Furlong's email address? I had this problem once before, and I recall he was the guy who finally figured out what went awry. getting his email addr is easy - but I doubt he is looking forward to your mail asking him to 'fix' the generals mailing list ... would just resubscribe. David Thanks, guys. Problem is I have resubscribed from this address 2 times, and I also tried to subscribe from my gmail account. From this address, I get no response whatsoever. I got a confirmation from my gmail account several hours ago, but have not gotten any list email. I know our admins here at the hospital do something funky with routing between the primary and secondary email servers. That was the problem the last time, and because of bounced emails, this address got placed on a 'bad address' list. I don't have a clue why my gmail account hasn't started to get traffic. But it's funny how we get accustomed to the exchange of ideas and cyber-contact with others. I guess I 'm having some withdrawal. ;-) David -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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- Original Message - From: yangshiqi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tom Whitbread' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'php-general lists' php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:36 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Setting cookie on first visit When the user first visits your site, there is no skin in your cookie. Then you can give a default value. And after the user modifies his/her profile, you can set it to the cookie. So I don't think it is a problem of setting cookie. Best regards, Yang Shiqi -Original Message- From: Tom Whitbread [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:18 PM To: php-general lists Subject: [PHP] Setting cookie on first visit I am using a cookie to detect what skin a user wants to display. The problem is if a user visits the site for the first time the cookie is not being set. I am detecting if its being set or not with if(!isset($_COOKIE['skin'])){ ... } It's not setting the cookie untill a user refreshes the page once. How can I ensure it's set when it hasnt been set before? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] [PHP-General List] - Cron or script like Cron -
Hi all, I have a script that generate a benchmark report, in *.csv, every day. I want to have the possibility to send me this report every day at the same time, during night, i.e. at the 03.00 am. I know that there is Cron that give me the possibility to do this, but I'm not the server manager and I cannot use Cron. I find a good alternative script, called Pseudo-Cron, but it runs only when the page that contains script is called. There is a script that have the same function of Cron but is only php, or there is another way to call Cron or anyother way to use Cron? All helps are very appreciated. Thank's all. Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] [PHP-General List] - Cron or script like Cron -
Add the functionality to the script that runs the benchmark. Watty -Original Message- From: francesco[AT]automationsoft[DOT]biz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 August 2004 17:34 To: PHP General List Subject: [PHP] [PHP-General List] - Cron or script like Cron - Hi all, I have a script that generate a benchmark report, in *.csv, every day. I want to have the possibility to send me this report every day at the same time, during night, i.e. at the 03.00 am. I know that there is Cron that give me the possibility to do this, but I'm not the server manager and I cannot use Cron. I find a good alternative script, called Pseudo- Cron, but it runs only when the page that contains script is called. There is a script that have the same function of Cron but is only php, or there is another way to call Cron or anyother way to use Cron? All helps are very appreciated. Thank's all. Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] [PHP-General] - LOC/FP for PHP.
Hi all, I have a question about PHP in relation with software engineering, and in particular, in order to apply COCOMO metod in a web-oriented software. I want to do a cost estimation of a software write in PHP-MySQL (and Linux-Apache) for a LAN. I know the teory about the software enginnering and especially of the model for estimation cost. I have many books and online materials about this, but in all I haven't table that show the coefficient of LOC/FP or SLOC/UFP (for COCOMOII) of PHP (in these tables there are coefficient for C, C++, Java, Lisp, Basic, ADA, Assembly, but not about PHP or scripting languages). Anyone know anything about this arguments? Thanks in advance and regards to all folks. Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] [PHP-General] - LOC/FP for PHP.
Hi all, I have a question about PHP in relation with software engineering, and in particular, in order to apply COCOMO metod in a web-oriented software. I want to do a cost estimation of a software write in PHP-MySQL (and Linux-Apache) for a LAN. I know the teory about the software enginnering and especially of the model for estimation cost. I have many books and online materials about this, but in all I haven't table that show the coefficient of LOC/FP or SLOC/UFP (for COCOMOII) of PHP (in these tables there are coefficient for C, C++, Java, Lisp, Basic, ADA, Assembly, but not about PHP or scripting languages). Anyone know anything about this arguments? Thanks in advance and regards to all folks. Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php-general list question - [Fwd: Delivery Report (failure) forphp-general@lists.php.net]
Exactly the same thing's happening to me! Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Me too, and im using the newsgroup, not even the mailing list!! :/ -- Luke Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I get one of these for almost every message I send, usually with a delay of a few days and always the same error. I see my posts come from the list to me and I see people replying to my messages so the list seems to be processing my posts. It's annoying however to keep getting these. Anybody else getting this? Yeah, I am getting bundles of these as well... -Craig -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Eric Bolikowski wrote: Exactly the same thing's happening to me! Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Me too, and im using the newsgroup, not even the mailing list!! :/ -- Rolf Brusletto rolf[at]emailfeeds[dot]com http://www.emailfeeds.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php-general list question - [Fwd: Delivery Report (failure) for php-general@lists.php.net]
I get one of these for almost every message I send, usually with a delay of a few days and always the same error. I see my posts come from the list to me and I see people replying to my messages so the list seems to be processing my posts. It's annoying however to keep getting these. Anybody else getting this? -Forwarded Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Delivery Report (failure) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:39:26 + This report relates to your message: Subject: [PHP] Retrieving class names in a static method, Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:39:20 + Your message was not delivered to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the following reason: Diagnostic was Unable to transfer, Message timed out Information Message timed out The Original Message follows: __ Reporting-MTA: x400; mta dswu232-hme1 in /ADMD= /C=WW/ Arrival-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:37:36 + DSN-Gateway: dns; dswu232.btconnect.com X400-Conversion-Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:39:26 + X400-Content-Correlator: Subject: [PHP] Retrieving class names in a static method, Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original-Envelope-Id: [/ADMD= /C=WW/;[EMAIL PROTECTED] X400-Content-Identifier: (091)PHP(093)... X400-Encoded-Info: ia5-text Original-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Final-Recipient: x400; /RFC-822=php-general(a)lists.php.net/ADMD= /C=WW/ Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Diagnostic-Code: Reason 1 (Unable-To-Transfer); Diagnostic 5 (Maximum-Time-Expired) X400-Supplementary-Info: Message timed out X400-Originally-Specified-Recipient-Number: 1 X400-Last-Trace: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:37:36 + __ Received: from gateway.btopenworld.com (actually host 185.136.40.217.in-addr.arpa) by dswu232 with SMTP-CUST (XT-PP) with ESMTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:37:36 + Received: from gateway (127.0.0.1) by gateway.btopenworld.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 2 Feb 2004 20:47:18 + Delivery-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:35:21 + Received: from pb1.pair.com (actually host 4.131.92.216.in-addr.arpa) by dswu194 with SMTP (XT-PP); Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:35:17 + Received: (qmail 67282 invoked by uid 1010); 2 Feb 2004 20:34:44 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 67259 invoked by uid 1010); 2 Feb 2004 20:34:44 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Adam Bregenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:32:56 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PHP] Retrieving class names in a static method -- Adam Bregenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://adam.bregenzer.net/ Reporting-MTA: x400; mta dswu232-hme1 in /ADMD= /C=WW/ Arrival-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:37:36 + DSN-Gateway: dns; dswu232.btconnect.com X400-Conversion-Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:39:26 + X400-Content-Correlator: Subject: [PHP] Retrieving class names in a static method, Message-ID: 1075753976.29947.43.camel@arcon, To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original-Envelope-Id: [/ADMD= /C=WW/;1075753976.29947.43.camel@arcon] X400-Content-Identifier: (091)PHP(093)... X400-Encoded-Info: ia5-text Original-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Final-Recipient: x400; /RFC-822=php-general(a)lists.php.net/ADMD= /C=WW/ Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Diagnostic-Code: Reason 1 (Unable-To-Transfer); Diagnostic 5 (Maximum-Time-Expired) X400-Supplementary-Info: Message timed out X400-Originally-Specified-Recipient-Number: 1 X400-Last-Trace: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:37:36 + -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php-general list question - [Fwd: Delivery Report (failure) forphp-general@lists.php.net]
I get one of these for almost every message I send, usually with a delay of a few days and always the same error. I see my posts come from the list to me and I see people replying to my messages so the list seems to be processing my posts. It's annoying however to keep getting these. Anybody else getting this? Yeah, I am getting bundles of these as well... -Craig -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Me too, and im using the newsgroup, not even the mailing list!! :/ -- Luke Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I get one of these for almost every message I send, usually with a delay of a few days and always the same error. I see my posts come from the list to me and I see people replying to my messages so the list seems to be processing my posts. It's annoying however to keep getting these. Anybody else getting this? Yeah, I am getting bundles of these as well... -Craig
Re: [PHP] php-general list question - [Fwd: Delivery Report (failure) forphp-general@lists.php.net]
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 17:50, Luke wrote: Me too, and im using the newsgroup, not even the mailing list!! :/ Hmm, that leads me to think this is a problem not related to php's mail server at all. (/me stops filling out a bug report) I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I find a solution I'll update this thread. -- Adam Bregenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://adam.bregenzer.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php-general list question - [Fwd: Delivery Report (failure) forphp-general@lists.php.net]
Adam Bregenzer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:45 PM said: I get one of these for almost every message I send, usually with a delay of a few days and always the same error. I see my posts come from the list to me and I see people replying to my messages so the list seems to be processing my posts. It's annoying however to keep getting these. Anybody else getting this? Yeah this list seems to be the worst when it comes to messages of this sort. I suggest you just get used to it. :) Also understand that EVERYONE else gets the same stuff. (At least I think everyone else gets them...) Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 18:57, Chris W. Parker wrote: Yeah this list seems to be the worst when it comes to messages of this sort. I suggest you just get used to it. :) Also understand that EVERYONE else gets the same stuff. (At least I think everyone else gets them...) What makes these messages unique is that they claim the list's posting address was what failed. I don't know why the list forwards e-mails so that bounces come back to me instead of the list itself. Anyways, this list is not for discussion of list behaviorl /me stretches tape across his mou..*grunt* -- Adam Bregenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://adam.bregenzer.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
Beginner to PHP so I guess this could be a really simple answer. I have a page linking to a ms word doc however the doc doesn't open up in word within the sectioned part of the browser but displays a load of gobble e.g.. ÐÏࡱá þ L N þÿÿÿK ÿÿÿì¥Á 7 ` ` ` ~ « « « I can open a word doc in the browser from a html page just not a PHP file. I 've checked the Apache httpd conf file and the mine types which are fine But I think I missing something in the PHP conf files. Thanks for any help. Alex James -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
Alex James wrote: Beginner to PHP so I guess this could be a really simple answer. I have a page linking to a ms word doc however the doc doesn't open up in word within the sectioned part of the browser but displays a load of gobble e.g.. L N K7 ` ` ` ~ ? ? ? ? ? ? I can open a word doc in the browser from a html page just not a PHP file. I 've checked the Apache httpd conf file and the mine types which are fine But I think I missing something in the PHP conf files. Thanks for any help. Alex James Your php page has a link to the word document like this a href=word.docMy Document/a? Show some code. -- By-Tor.com It's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
You probably want to add the mime type with 'header(Content-type: application/x-ms-word);'. Regards. -Gregory -Original Message- From: Alex James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 7:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP Beginner to PHP so I guess this could be a really simple answer. I have a page linking to a ms word doc however the doc doesn't open up in word within the sectioned part of the browser but displays a load of gobble e.g.. ÐÏࡱá þ L N þÿÿÿK ÿÿÿì¥Á 7 ` ` ` ~ « « « I can open a word doc in the browser from a html page just not a PHP file. I 've checked the Apache httpd conf file and the mine types which are fine But I think I missing something in the PHP conf files. Thanks for any help. Alex James -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
John Nichel wrote: Your php page has a link to the word document like this a href=word.docMy Document/a? Show some code. Sorry Here is the link in menu6.php h3a href=index.php?m=6PK PATTERNS/a/h3 a href=index.php?m=6c=pkPatterns/MicroModel.docMicro models/a a href=index.php?m=6c=pkPatterns/test.htmlTest/a and getting called in here in index.php ?php $c = $_GET[c]; if ($c != ) { include($c); } else { include(content1.php); } ? Thanks Alex James -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
Alex James wrote: ?php $c = $_GET[c]; if ($c != ) { include($c); } else { include(content1.php); } ? The code is very unsafe, you include and execute any file, even remote if enabled in php.ini. You should use realpath() and substr() to check if the variable realy points to pkPatterns/ directory. Then check the file extension using pathinfo() and return apropriate Content-type header. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
Alex James wrote: John Nichel wrote: Your php page has a link to the word document like this a href=word.docMy Document/a? Show some code. Sorry Here is the link in menu6.php h3a href=index.php?m=6PK PATTERNS/a/h3 a href=index.php?m=6c=pkPatterns/MicroModel.docMicro models/a a href=index.php?m=6c=pkPatterns/test.htmlTest/a and getting called in here in index.php ?php $c = $_GET[c]; if ($c != ) { include($c); } else { include(content1.php); } ? Thanks Alex James On the page that you're trying to serve the Micro$oft Document (index.php), you're going to have to include the content type in the header, something like... header ( Content-type: application/msword ); See here... http://us4.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php -- By-Tor.com It's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
John Nichel wrote: On the page that you're trying to serve the Micro$oft Document (index.php), you're going to have to include the content type in the header, something like... header ( Content-type: application/msword ); See here... http://us4.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php Thanks John for your reply. I have tried putting a header before the html tag unfortunately all this does is output index.php in ms word format within the browser. As you've seen with some of the code supplied I want to simulate how a frameset works. So the sidebar (or menu=m) stays the same with the area defined for content changing upon menu options. However how can I open a word doc from a normal HTML file on apache and I can't with a PHP file ? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
Alex James wrote: John Nichel wrote: On the page that you're trying to serve the Micro$oft Document (index.php), you're going to have to include the content type in the header, something like... header ( Content-type: application/msword ); See here... http://us4.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php Thanks John for your reply. I have tried putting a header before the html tag unfortunately all this does is output index.php in ms word format within the browser. As you've seen with some of the code supplied I want to simulate how a frameset works. So the sidebar (or menu=m) stays the same with the area defined for content changing upon menu options. However how can I open a word doc from a normal HTML file on apache and I can't with a PHP file ? Okay, if you're going to include a MSWord document in a normal HTML file, how do you do thatwhat's your code to do it? -- By-Tor.com It's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
Okay, if you're going to include a MSWord document in a normal HTML file, how do you do thatwhat's your code to do it? Ah...good point. Thought It would work like a frame. But now thinking about it I'm trying to embed a word doc in the html and guess because I not using some object or activeX control it won't work. Right I'm going to save the word docs as txt files and include ? Thanks Alex James -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [PHP-GENERAL] Serving docs from PHP
Alex James wrote: Okay, if you're going to include a MSWord document in a normal HTML file, how do you do thatwhat's your code to do it? Ah...good point. Thought It would work like a frame. But now thinking about it I'm trying to embed a word doc in the html and guess because I not using some object or activeX control it won't work. Right I'm going to save the word docs as txt files and include ? Thanks Alex James So you were previously doing this from a Windows server? If not, instead of trying to include the document with php's 'include', have php output the html code that works. When you call it as an include, Apache is going to treat it as the mime type of the document that called it (in this case, php). -- By-Tor.com It's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP-General List post bounces???
Why do I keep getting this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ERR] RE: [PHP] How to access a program outside of PHP? Transmit Report: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 402 Local User Inbox Full ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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* Thus wrote Adam Douglas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Why do I keep getting this? woah.. this is still happening? I don't seem to be getting these anymore. Send an email to the list admin's letting them know this is happening, including all the headers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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-Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 June 2003 22:47 On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) Cheers! Mike - Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Beckett Park, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tuesday 01 July 2003 18:08, Ford, Mike [LSS] wrote: You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) If your organisation see fit to use to such broken rubbish when there are much better alternatives available (eg The Bat!) then you just have to put up -- or you can choose to work in a better environment ;-) M$ has already done enough harm to standards, netiquette best practices, with all the crap settings that they put into Outlook [Express] (like having Word/HTML as the default message format, top posting, their tnef format for attachments etc.) -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... once. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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-Original Message- From: Jason Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2003 12:55 On Tuesday 01 July 2003 18:08, Ford, Mike [LSS] wrote: Watch your quoting attributions -- I didn't say this first bit, Derick did: You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) If your organisation see fit to use to such broken rubbish when there are much better alternatives available (eg The Bat!) then you just have to put up -- or you can choose to work in a better environment ;-) M$ has already done enough harm to standards, netiquette best practices, with all the crap settings that they put into Outlook [Express] (like having Word/HTML as the default message format, top posting, their tnef format for attachments etc.) Oh, I wouldn't argue with you -- and I do what I can to overcome those limitations (no top posting here!) -- but, in my current position, I have no choice about what I use as an email client in the first place. I just thought Derick's response was a bit cavalier, which prompted me to want to make the point that not everyone actually *does* have the choice. Cheers! Mike - Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Beckett Park, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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You could signup with a company like yahoo.com or hotmail or bend.com and you could then have a web based email service. You ALWAYS have choices... :) Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Ford, Mike [LSS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Derick Rethans' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:08 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] php-general as REPLY TO -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 June 2003 22:47 On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) Cheers! Mike - Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Beckett Park, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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But that would not solve the problem being discussed. None of the webmail services that I've tried have a reply-to-list feature. --- Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could signup with a company like yahoo.com or hotmail or bend.com and you could then have a web based email service. You ALWAYS have choices... :) Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Ford, Mike [LSS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Derick Rethans' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:08 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] php-general as REPLY TO -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 June 2003 22:47 On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) Cheers! Mike - Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Beckett Park, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php = Mark Weinstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** You can't demand something as a right unless you are willing to fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. *** __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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oops - maybe i should have kept my big mouth shut! ha. anyway, it doesn't look like it's going to change. php_thread --end php-general as REPLY TO Mark wrote: But that would not solve the problem being discussed. None of the webmail services that I've tried have a reply-to-list feature. --- Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could signup with a company like yahoo.com or hotmail or bend.com and you could then have a web based email service. You ALWAYS have choices... :) Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Ford, Mike [LSS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Derick Rethans' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:08 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] php-general as REPLY TO -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 June 2003 22:47 On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) Cheers! Mike - Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Beckett Park, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php = Mark Weinstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** You can't demand something as a right unless you are willing to fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. *** __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) There is a setting in MSOutlook/MSOE to wrap your lines, say, at 62 or 70. I don't remember my experiences with MSOE on Mac very well, but MSOE on MSW2k had little triangles on buttons in various places. If you hit the button, you got the standard function. If you hit the triangle, you got a pop-up menu. Pop-up menu for replies included basically all the potential reply addresses (according to MS judgement of potential reply addresses). Look around, maybe you can find something like that on MSOutlook 98. rambling We had some virus problems here last year, and now MS mail clients are banned. The company standardized on Becky for the MSWxx boxes, which is a really nice client, all sorts of features for mailing lists, newsgroups, etc. The filter setup is a little weird, but it works great. So I am beginning to forget the conveniences of MSOE on MSW2k, as well, which is not something I mind forgetting. But I have to admit, I find it puzzling why copy/pasting a mail address should be considered such an inconvenience. I admit, copy/paste on MSWxx feels clumsier than on a Mac, but the operations are fundamental to GUI. I also find it a puzzle why so many companies seem to think that MSOutlook's advantages outweigh the problems of having to bolt antivirus on everything (and the occasional slip-through that then proceeds to dirty entire subnets), but that is a separate topic. /rambling -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php-general as REPLY TO
Hello, I'm wondering why the listed Reply To address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thing would be so much easier to just reply than cut-n-paste when reply to the entire list on a subject (which is the norm). Can the maintainer set this up? John -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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John Manko [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/03 02:08PM Hello, I'm wondering why the listed Reply To address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thing would be so much easier to just reply than cut-n-paste when reply to the entire list on a subject (which is the norm). Can the maintainer set this up? John -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, John Manko wrote: I'm wondering why the listed Reply To address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thing would be so much easier to just reply than cut-n-paste when reply to the entire list on a subject (which is the norm). That's an evil thing, and misusing e-mail. E-mail clients have the reply-all function for this. Derick -- Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails. - Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 30 Jun 2003 at 21:23, Derick Rethans wrote: I'm wondering why the listed Reply To address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thing would be so much easier to just reply than cut-n-paste when reply to the entire list on a subject (which is the norm). That's an evil thing, and misusing e-mail. E-mail clients have the reply-all function for this. I disagree with you Derick. In many (most? all?) programs, the reply- all function will send an email back to the list **and** one to the author. This wastes bandwidth needlessly, in my opinion. I receive the messages to the list and do not need to receive a message sent directly to me. I am the owner and one of four admins of a mailing list, and we have set the default such that the reply is to the list. I have always thought that any other default setting is antithetical to the idea of a mailing list. A mailing list is a vehicle where conversations about the particular topic are shared with everyone on the list, even those who are not actively engaged in that particular thread of conversation. To set the default reply to go to the author of a particular post is to have the default to break the public nature of the conversation and shift it to a private conversation. Of course, this default can be overridden by an action of the replier. But if the default model is public conversation, why should the default be private reply? Doug -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: On 30 Jun 2003 at 21:23, Derick Rethans wrote: I'm wondering why the listed Reply To address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thing would be so much easier to just reply than cut-n-paste when reply to the entire list on a subject (which is the norm). That's an evil thing, and misusing e-mail. E-mail clients have the reply-all function for this. I disagree with you Derick. In many (most? all?) programs, the reply- all function will send an email back to the list **and** one to the author. This wastes bandwidth needlessly, in my opinion. I receive the messages to the list and do not need to receive a message sent directly to me. You have procmail for that. There is some very good explanation for this, see http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/faq/maillist.html#munge_reply-to Derick -- Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails. - Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I just read this FAQ, and I still don't see a good reason why not to change the REPLY-TO. The primary reason offered is that it will prevent people from sending messages in private, but that is not really the case (the FROM field will still contain the sender's address and it can simply be cut paste). I just don't see anything evil. I am with Doug -- it is better to have something set up to where people don't have to think about performing the normal operation, and and it is acceptable that the exception (when you want to write someone privately) might require a little more work (cut paste). I wonder how often the answers to questions don't make it on the list because somebody forgot to press reply-all. My two cents. Jeremy --- Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: On 30 Jun 2003 at 21:23, Derick Rethans wrote: I'm wondering why the listed Reply To address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thing would be so much easier to just reply than cut-n-paste when reply to the entire list on a subject (which is the norm). That's an evil thing, and misusing e-mail. E-mail clients have the reply-all function for this. I disagree with you Derick. In many (most? all?) programs, the reply- all function will send an email back to the list **and** one to the author. This wastes bandwidth needlessly, in my opinion. I receive the messages to the list and do not need to receive a message sent directly to me. You have procmail for that. There is some very good explanation for this, see http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/faq/maillist.html#munge_reply-to Derick -- Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails. - Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I just read this FAQ, and I still don't see a good reason why not to change the REPLY-TO. The primary reason offered is that it will prevent people from sending messages in private, but that is not really the case (the FROM field will still contain the sender's address and it can simply be cut paste). I just don't see anything evil. Nothing evil, it's just a pain in the ass to have to cut and paste to send a private mail, vs. the significantly lower PITA-level associated with hitting 'reply-all' to send a public one. For those of use who use nice context-sensitive mailers like Pine or Mutt, the default reply behavior to a list is reply-all, anyway. I am with Doug -- it is better to have something set up to where people don't have to think about performing the normal operation, Also, not munging the reply-to tends to cut down on the oops, that scathing flame / innappropriate proposition / disclosure of company secrets was not meant to go to the list factor. - michal migurski- contact info and pgp key: sf/cahttp://mike.teczno.com/contact.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 30 Jun 2003 at 22:34, Derick Rethans wrote: I disagree with you Derick. In many (most? all?) programs, the reply- all function will send an email back to the list **and** one to the author. This wastes bandwidth needlessly, in my opinion. I receive the messages to the list and do not need to receive a message sent directly to me. You have procmail for that. There is some very good explanation for this, see http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/faq/maillist.html#munge_reply-to First, Derick, not everyone has access to procmail. In fact, most folk **do not** have access to procmail. Second, I still think it antithetical to the whole idea of a public mailing list to set the reply-to default to anything other than the mailing list. Since I see no evil coming out of this, nor any misuse, I fail to see the problem. As the owner of a mailing list, I am quite familiar with the webpage you referenced; to my mind, it doesn't make any valid arguments. Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. Doug -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Derick -- Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails. - Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Guys, this will not change. Look back through the archives. It has been discussed a couple of times. If you don't like it, unsubscribe. Sorry to be blunt, but this is a waste of bandwidth. Keep in mind that many people post without being subscribed to the list, so only sending a reply to the list doesn't get them the answer they were looking for. Also, often the list can get slow and getting a private copy of the answer to your question means you don't have to wait an hour or more for it. If you don't know how to configure your mail system to get rid of duplicates, then you will have to suffer through hitting the delete key an extra time. And finally, defaulting to a public post when replying to an individual is simply wrong. -Rasmus On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: On 30 Jun 2003 at 22:34, Derick Rethans wrote: I disagree with you Derick. In many (most? all?) programs, the reply- all function will send an email back to the list **and** one to the author. This wastes bandwidth needlessly, in my opinion. I receive the messages to the list and do not need to receive a message sent directly to me. You have procmail for that. There is some very good explanation for this, see http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/faq/maillist.html#munge_reply-to First, Derick, not everyone has access to procmail. In fact, most folk **do not** have access to procmail. Second, I still think it antithetical to the whole idea of a public mailing list to set the reply-to default to anything other than the mailing list. Since I see no evil coming out of this, nor any misuse, I fail to see the problem. As the owner of a mailing list, I am quite familiar with the webpage you referenced; to my mind, it doesn't make any valid arguments. Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. Doug -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Well, what we have here is a classic business example. If PHP (and this list) were operated commercially then it would behove them to consider examining what their customers percieve as an inconvenience and remove that situation from the relationship to the satisfaction of the majority of their major customers. I am not so sure that the same basic customer service advise does not hold true here as it is the fact that people use PHP and this list that makes them living entities. Now, some questions: 1. I think the archives would better serve the PHP community as a whole if they were more complete (default to list). 2. If this were a business it would usually be unwise to suggest your customers get good equipment (a better mail system). Would you agree? 3. Is it more important to serve those people who do not subscribe (read contribute) and only use the list for their own purposes, to serve one person quickly, or to serve the entire community to the best of your ability. Personally I don't really care but, I think I would make the default reply-all for the betterment of the entire community. Daryl -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:47 PM To: Doug Essinger-Hileman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] php-general as REPLY TO On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Derick -- Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails. - Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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If snipping everything is v. rude, then I apologize. Please, everyone, get a grip -- how difficult is it to right click and select Reply to All? And if one has to cut and paste the php-general ... form cc: to to:, does it take that much time? More likely, if you start typing php- it autocompletes. Sorry for jumping in, and wasting bandwidth, but this is a petty matter. More importantly, this is a pretty high quality list, with good questions, solid answers, and, most of the time, consideration shown for others. Regards - Miles Thompson At 05:59 PM 6/30/2003 -0500, Daryl Meese wrote: snip -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Keep in mind that many people post without being subscribed to the list, This is false. In fact, I tried sending a message to the list from another account that wasn't subscribed, and I got a reply stating the following: Because you are not subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED], your message has been held until you can confirm that you are a real person sending mail. Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Guys, this will not change. Look back through the archives. It has been discussed a couple of times. If you don't like it, unsubscribe. Sorry to be blunt, but this is a waste of bandwidth. Keep in mind that many people post without being subscribed to the list, so only sending a reply to the list doesn't get them the answer they were looking for. Also, often the list can get slow and getting a private copy of the answer to your question means you don't have to wait an hour or more for it. If you don't know how to configure your mail system to get rid of duplicates, then you will have to suffer through hitting the delete key an extra time. And finally, defaulting to a public post when replying to an individual is simply wrong. -Rasmus On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: On 30 Jun 2003 at 22:34, Derick Rethans wrote: I disagree with you Derick. In many (most? all?) programs, the reply- all function will send an email back to the list **and** one to the author. This wastes bandwidth needlessly, in my opinion. I receive the messages to the list and do not need to receive a message sent directly to me. You have procmail for that. There is some very good explanation for this, see http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/faq/maillist.html#munge_reply-to First, Derick, not everyone has access to procmail. In fact, most folk **do not** have access to procmail. Second, I still think it antithetical to the whole idea of a public mailing list to set the reply-to default to anything other than the mailing list. Since I see no evil coming out of this, nor any misuse, I fail to see the problem. As the owner of a mailing list, I am quite familiar with the webpage you referenced; to my mind, it doesn't make any valid arguments. Having said this, I suspect that you and I will continue to disagree, which is perfectly okay. If this list changes the default I will be happy. If it doesn't, I will learn to adjust. One request I make is that folk, including you, Derick, refrain from sending replies to my email to both the list *and* my personal inbox. There's no need to waste the bandwidth. Doug -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, John Manko wrote: Keep in mind that many people post without being subscribed to the list, This is false. In fact, I tried sending a message to the list from another account that wasn't subscribed, and I got a reply stating the following: Because you are not subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED], your message has been held until you can confirm that you are a real person sending mail. Correct, and once you confirm your email goes through whether you are subscribed or not. Sheez. -Rasmus -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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- Original Message - From: Quentin Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PHP GENERAL LIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Problem with sessions. Hi, Is your 'other server' identical (Web Server, PHP Version, register_globals setting)? Quentin -Original Message- From: Mike Hillyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 20 December 2002 12:43 p.m. To: PHP GENERAL LIST Subject: [PHP] Problem with sessions. Hello All; Please forgive me if I am repeating an often asked question, but I am having a problem with sessions. I simply cannot get them to work. The sample code I provide works on another server perfectly, this is the first page: ?PHP session_start(); session_register(name,pass); $name = hilde; $pass = mypassword; echo h1Session variables set!/h1; echo a href=\page2.php\go to next page/a; ? When called, the following file arrives in /tmp: sess_f9c5e87b35ae66eac64a9a346321b269 name|s:5:hilde;pass|s:10:mypassword; So obviously the session file is being created. However, when I go to page2.php?PHPSESSID=f9c5e87b35ae66eac64a9a346321b269 Which has this code: ?PHP session_start(); echo h1The password of $name is $pass /h1; ? I get The Password of is As a response. Both pages work perfectly on another server, so I am having trouble finding the problem, especially since the session file is actually created in /tmp My PHP.ini file is standard to a RedHat RPM install, but I will include it as an attachment. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Mike Hillyer The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Is it just me or does anyone else get a lot of messages on this list with dates in the future ( note the date below ) that then end up pinned to the bottom ( or top ) of the email listing. Is there some way to set the listserv to normalize the dates or is the just a Eudora4+ problem? Actually, since the lists have gone back up I've noticed a time-warp effect, I'm getting replies to mails before I get the originals. Maybe Rasmus needs to tweak it a bit when he goes into his spare room next :) Jason (who wonders if Rasmus' spare room is for rent) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]