RE: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-09 Thread John A DAVIS


Yeah, my Kerios firewall kept popping up asking me to Permit google something to go somewhere off my computer. Even when Chrome wasn't running. I sure like the skinnyness and the last visited webpage. What can you tell a 500 pound gorilla? probably nothing.

 "Boyd, Todd M." [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/4/2008 1:26:16 PM 
 -Original Message- From: Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:34 PM To: Boyd, Todd M. Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Google Chrome  !-- SNIP --  You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager  (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also noticed  that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This made  me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility for  modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw that  GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on  Windows startup.   I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat my  memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken away  from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, though  (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for _javascript_)...  startup monitor - sure it runs at startup, but that little bugger keeps an eye on my startup and asks me if I want to allow my startup to be modified.Yeah, I used to use a program that had similar functionality. Haven't really bothered putting much of my "familiar" software on my work PC, but maybe I should after this... it has been bogging down a bit lately, after all.Todd BoydWeb Programmer

Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-06 Thread Richard Heyes
 Under the Options and Under the Hood there's an option called:

Nope, no effect I'm afraid.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Ford

Shawn McKenzie wrote:

Per Jessen wrote:

Stut wrote:


On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

Now is the time ;)

Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

But only for Windows for now :(



I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ...


/Per Jessen, Zürich


Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono?

-Shawn


Tried on Wine (version 0.9.60 on OpenSuse) and I could even get the downloader 
to start.

To be fair, I've never really got anything to work on Wine...


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi,

 There's an option for pre-buffering things, I believe.

Where?

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-05 Thread Yeti
  I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was
  running crazy every time chrome was started.
  And I don't know how to do lsof | grep chrome on Windows to see what's
  going on.

LSOF for winblows:

http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessMonitor.zip

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-05 Thread Jochem Maas

Robert Cummings schreef:

On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 03:15 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:

Bastien Koert schreef:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bastien Koert schreef:


On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539



Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash


so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'?

I think your confused with DDoS



DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked
via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK

no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of Service'. DoS
is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose is denying
you the service it provides (viewing webpages).

rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied service.


I thought Chrome was set up so if your current page caused a crash other
loaded pages didn't crash also. In which case DoS doesn't apply if only
the requested page crashes since you're still getting service.


yes, and somebody already showed how to crash the whole damn app.
type 'evil:%', for example, into the addressbar IIRC

:-D



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RE: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-05 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 6:53 AM
 To: Robert Cummings
 Cc: Bastien Koert; Dan Shirah; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List_PHP_General
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
 
 Robert Cummings schreef:
  On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 03:15 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:
  Bastien Koert schreef:
  On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Bastien Koert schreef:
 
  On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?
  http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539
 
 
  Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash
 
  so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'?
 
  I think your confused with DDoS
 
 
  DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is
 attacked
  via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK
  no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of
 Service'. DoS
  is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose
 is denying
  you the service it provides (viewing webpages).
 
  rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get
 denied service.
 
  I thought Chrome was set up so if your current page caused a crash
 other
  loaded pages didn't crash also. In which case DoS doesn't apply if
 only
  the requested page crashes since you're still getting service.
 
 yes, and somebody already showed how to crash the whole damn app.
 type 'evil:%', for example, into the addressbar IIRC

Yep, that'll do it. As soon as you type the %, it crashes. Anything
followed by :% seems to do it.

Also FWIW, I've crashed it with 5 tabs open when I tried to close one of
the tabs. Clicking the option to restart Chrome brought it back up with
all 5 tabs. Again, when I tried to close one, it crashed and reinstated
all 5 upon restart... ad nauseum.

Maybe I'm picky... but if a newly-released beta program crashes in the
first minute or two that I'm playing with, it proobably wasn't ready
for beta in the first place. My 2c.


Todd Boyd
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-05 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied
 service.

Burn of the week! :)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-05 Thread TG
Under the Options and Under the Hood there's an option called:

Use DNS pre-fetching to improve page load performance

I think that's what I was thinking of.  That's probably not pre-fetching 
whole pages so much as just resolving DNS ahead of time.

There still could be some pre-caching going on that you just can't control.  
Not sure.

-TG

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Cc: Ovidiu Rosoiu [EMAIL PROTECTED],php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:12:13 +0100
Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

 Hi,
 
  There's an option for pre-buffering things, I believe.
 
 Where?
 
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi,

Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if
you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP
great? :-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Per Jessen
Richard Heyes wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if
 you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP
 great? :-)
 

I didn't even manage to download it - with FF+Linux there's no
downloadable version (ok, not yet ready), but then I tried downloading
from Windows, and I still got no link - which is when I spotted that
Chrome is only for XP and Vista - not W2K.  


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RE: [PHP] Google Chrome [0T]

2008-09-04 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-

 From: Andrew Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:53 PM

 To: PHP General list

 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

 

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Since gmail won't take exe files...

 

  http://lonewolf.homelinux.net/ChromeSetup.exe

 

  Andrew Ballard wrote:

  I tried to grab it, but it seems that my employer is protecting me 

  from it. Interesting.

 

  Andrew

 

 

 

 That wouldn't work here. I could grab the ChromeSetup.exe, but when I 

 ran it I kept getting an error message:

 

 Download error. The downloaded file failed verification. Error code =

 0x80040508

 

 

 It seems that ChromeSetup.exe is a downloader that tries to pull the 

 actual installer named chrome_installer.exe from another hidden URL, 

 and it's that other site that is blocked here.

 

 At any rate, I found it the installer somewhere else.

 

On another (somewhat unrelated) note, Chrome--and apparently WebKit as a
whole (Safari, etc.)--does not support the creation of XML DOM elements
using Javascript. I realize it has little or nothing to do with PHP, but
I thought it was worth bringing up. I'm working on a Google Maps mash-up
right now, and I figured I'd test it out in Chrome after I downloaded
the browser here at work. It breaks on document.implementation and (of
course) the ActiveX method.

 

 

Todd Boyd

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Ovidiu Rosoiu

Richard Heyes wrote:

Hi,

Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if
you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP
great? :-)

  
I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was 
running crazy every time chrome was started.
And I don't know how to do lsof | grep chrome on Windows to see what's 
going on.


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Ovidiu Rosoiu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Richard Heyes wrote:

 Hi,

 Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if
 you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP
 great? :-)



 I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was running
 crazy every time chrome was started.
 And I don't know how to do lsof | grep chrome on Windows to see what's
 going on.

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Strange, I am not seeing that behavior at all. I am currently running an
older Dell machine with 1.5Gb ram and have

Firefox 3  (5 tabs open including gmail and yahoo)
IE8  ( 1 tab open)
Chrome ( 1 tab open )

among a half dozen other apps open and I am not high in the disk or cpu
usage...

The biggest cpu hog for me right now is WMPlayer 11

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RE: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: Ovidiu Rosoiu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:56 PM
 To: Richard Heyes
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
 
 Richard Heyes wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing
 (if
  you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP
  great? :-)
 
 
 I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was
 running crazy every time chrome was started.
 And I don't know how to do lsof | grep chrome on Windows to see
 what's
 going on.

You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager
(Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also noticed
that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This made
me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility for
modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw that
GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on
Windows startup.

I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat my
memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken away
from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, though
(aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for Javascript)...


Todd Boyd
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread TG
There's an option for pre-buffering things, I believe.  It may be doing that. 
 Or it may be just indexing your whole HD and sending it's contents back to 
Google.  :)

-TG

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From: Ovidiu Rosoiu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:55:33 +0300
Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

 Richard Heyes wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if
  you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP
  great? :-)
 

 I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was 
 running crazy every time chrome was started.
 And I don't know how to do lsof | grep chrome on Windows to see what's 
 going on.
 
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Stephen Wong
Wow, didn't notice the GoogleUpdate.exe, thanks for the heads up on
that.  Agreed about programs adding items in our startup.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Boyd, Todd M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Ovidiu Rosoiu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:56 PM
 To: Richard Heyes
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

 Richard Heyes wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing
 (if
  you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP
  great? :-)
 
 
 I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was
 running crazy every time chrome was started.
 And I don't know how to do lsof | grep chrome on Windows to see
 what's
 going on.

 You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager
 (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also noticed
 that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This made
 me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility for
 modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw that
 GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on
 Windows startup.

 I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat my
 memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken away
 from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, though
 (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for Javascript)...


 Todd Boyd
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RE: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Wolf
!-- SNIP --
 You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager
 (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also noticed
 that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This made
 me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility for
 modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw that
 GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on
 Windows startup.
 
 I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat my
 memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken away
 from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, though
 (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for Javascript)...

startup monitor - sure it runs at startup, but that little bugger keeps an eye 
on my startup and asks me if I want to allow my startup to be modified.

:-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Eugene Mah
Shawn McKenzie wrote:

 Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono?
 
 -Shawn
 
already done by this guy
http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/09/install-google-chrome-on-linux-using-wine.html

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RE: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:34 PM
 To: Boyd, Todd M.
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: RE: [PHP] Google Chrome
 
 !-- SNIP --
  You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager
  (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also
 noticed
  that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This
 made
  me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility
 for
  modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw
 that
  GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on
  Windows startup.
 
  I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat
 my
  memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken
 away
  from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise,
 though
  (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for
 Javascript)...
 
 startup monitor - sure it runs at startup, but that little bugger
 keeps an eye on my startup and asks me if I want to allow my startup to
 be modified.

Yeah, I used to use a program that had similar functionality. Haven't really 
bothered putting much of my familiar software on my work PC, but maybe I 
should after this... it has been bogging down a bit lately, after all.


Todd Boyd
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Dan Shirah
Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539


Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?

 http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539


Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Jochem Maas

Bastien Koert schreef:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539



Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash


so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'?

I think your confused with DDoS






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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Jay Moore

Jochem Maas wrote:

Bastien Koert schreef:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539



Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash


so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'?

I think your confused with DDoS






It depends on what site he planned to visit.

Google - DoS
Zombo.com - Not DoS.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bastien Koert schreef:

 On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?

 http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539


 Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash


 so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'?

 I think your confused with DDoS




DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Jochem Maas

Bastien Koert schreef:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bastien Koert schreef:


On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539



Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash


so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'?

I think your confused with DDoS



DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked
via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK


no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of Service'. DoS
is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose is denying
you the service it provides (viewing webpages).

rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied service.






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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 03:15 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:
 Bastien Koert schreef:
  On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Bastien Koert schreef:
 
  On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks?
  http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847tag=nl.e539
 
 
  Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash
 
  so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'?
 
  I think your confused with DDoS
 
 
  DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked
  via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK
 
 no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of Service'. DoS
 is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose is denying
 you the service it provides (viewing webpages).
 
 rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied 
 service.

I thought Chrome was set up so if your current page caused a crash other
loaded pages didn't crash also. In which case DoS doesn't apply if only
the requested page crashes since you're still getting service.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Jochem Maas

Haig Dedeyan schreef:

On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:

Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their license 
agreement:


By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, 
irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, 
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and 
distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the 
services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, 
distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services 
as defined in the additional terms of those services.


scary ... but what's this context of this section (I'm on MacOS .. still waiting
for a beta ;-)) ... more precisely what's the definition of the content
and the services.

I can't imagine the browser can be considered a service by any means.



Haig



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From: Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome


Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...







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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Lester Caine

Jochem Maas wrote:

Haig Dedeyan schreef:

On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:

Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their 
license agreement:


By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a 
perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive 
license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly 
perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, 
post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the 
sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the 
services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the 
additional terms of those services.


scary ... but what's this context of this section (I'm on MacOS .. still 
waiting

for a beta ;-)) ... more precisely what's the definition of the content
and the services.

I can't imagine the browser can be considered a service by any means.


Some sections seems to imply that you HAVE to be connected to Google even to 
use the browser? And that they reserve the right to stop you browsing if they 
need to? Can anybody confirm that I will be able to use the browser off line 
on a closed network, since that would be the environment *I* would be testing 
anything new in :)

At present I don't feel able to accept their terms at all?

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Richard Heyes
 Tomorrow I think...

And now tomorrow has arrived and I've downloaded it, I think it looks
quite good. Perhaps unsurprisingly from Google, it's rather fast.
Thankfully, it appears to support my (HTML5) RGraph thang.  I do
wonder, when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...?

If anyone is interested I've already updated my browser detection thang for it.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Shawn McKenzie

Per Jessen wrote:

Stut wrote:


On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

Now is the time ;)

Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

But only for Windows for now :(



I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ...


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Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono?

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...?


i heard they programmed it in c++ :)

-nathan


Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Lupus Michaelis

Shawn McKenzie a écrit :


Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono?


  Google don't allow the downloading from Linux (I now, I can easily 
work around, but I don't workaround when the other site won't).


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Jim Lucas

Nathan Nobbe wrote:

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...?



i heard they programmed it in c++ :)

-nathan



I would think something that sophisticated should be written in LISP

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Jochem Maas

Jim Lucas schreef:

Nathan Nobbe wrote:

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...?



i heard they programmed it in c++ :)

-nathan



I would think something that sophisticated should be written in LISP



 I know I am ... written in LISP that is :-P

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[PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread n3or

Shawn McKenzie schrieb:


Per Jessen wrote:

Stut wrote:


On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

Now is the time ;)

Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

But only for Windows for now :(



I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ...


/Per Jessen, Zürich


Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono?

-Shawn



Hi,
I tried Wine with the chrome.exe of the 7-Zip packet/Google directory, 
but it failed both. The setup.exe failed too. But it was only a short test.


Error: fixme:ntdll:NtSetInformationProcess 
(0x,0x0022,0x33fbd0,0x0004) stub


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Andrew Ballard
I tried to grab it, but it seems that my employer is protecting me
from it. Interesting.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since gmail won't take exe files...

 http://lonewolf.homelinux.net/ChromeSetup.exe

 Andrew Ballard wrote:
 I tried to grab it, but it seems that my employer is protecting me
 from it. Interesting.

 Andrew



That wouldn't work here. I could grab the ChromeSetup.exe, but when I
ran it I kept getting an error message:

Download error. The downloaded file failed verification. Error code = 0x80040508


It seems that ChromeSetup.exe is a downloader that tries to pull the
actual installer named chrome_installer.exe from another hidden URL,
and it's that other site that is blocked here.

At any rate, I found it the installer somewhere else.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-03 Thread Haig Dedeyan
On September 2, 2008 09:36:42 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
 On September 2, 2008 09:33:30 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
  
   Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their
   license agreement:
  
   By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
   perpetual,
   irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to
   reproduce,
   adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display
   and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or
   through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling
   Google to display,
   distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain
   services as defined in the additional terms of those services.
 
  What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never
  agreed with this licence!

 I'm hoping that all this means is that they if you post something positive
 about chrome on some forum/blog, they can use it. Which begs the question,
 how would they know what I post.

 Haig

Looks like Google is changing their EULA:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/090308-google-amends-chrome-license-agreement.html

Haig


   Haig
  
Mouse wheel works fine for me.
   
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From: Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
   
 Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
 Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...
  
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[PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
war?

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Diogo Neves
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
 Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
 war?

 http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

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Hi,
I have nothing against browsers, but that discussion is (maybe) better on a
javascript/designer/whatever mailling...
And it's only rumors... why not wait by the real thing is out?

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Per Jessen
Richard Heyes wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
 Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
 war?
 

Can anyone say even more money  effort wasted on testing
webpages  :-(


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
 why not wait by the real thing is out?

By the looks of it, the release is imminent.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Stut

On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:

Richard Heyes wrote:

Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
war?



Can anyone say even more money  effort wasted on testing
webpages  :-(


Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Per Jessen
Stut wrote:

 On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:
 Richard Heyes wrote:
 Hi,

 Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
 Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
 war?


 Can anyone say even more money  effort wasted on testing
 webpages  :-(
 
 Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.
 

I can't help thinking that sounds just like when MS is telling us they
are compatible.  But it _is_ good that they're using Webkit, I'm just
not sure if it really means no extra testing effort.  FF3 wasn't and
isn't compatible with FF2. 


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Luke
isn't the webkit based on KHTML?

2008/9/2 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:

 Richard Heyes wrote:

 Hi,

 Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
 Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
 war?


 Can anyone say even more money  effort wasted on testing
 webpages  :-(


 Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread shiplu
Google Chrome is not released yet, is it?
Didn't get any download link. :-S

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Per Jessen
Luke wrote:

 isn't the webkit based on KHTML?
 

It's a fork of KHTML, yes.  


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Diogo Neves
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM, shiplu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Google Chrome is not released yet, is it?
 Didn't get any download link. :-S


Was what i said... it's a rumor... let da thing came out and u'll see your
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Jochem Maas

Richard Heyes schreef:

Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
war?

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/


to quote Han Solo :  I have a bad feeling about this






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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
 Can anyone say even more money  effort wasted on testing
 webpages  :-(

 Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.

Are you going to take the gamble? :-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
 Google Chrome is not released yet, is it?
 Didn't get any download link. :-S

Can't find any download link. It maybe a few hours away.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030025-2.html

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Jochem Maas

Richard Heyes schreef:

Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
war?

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/


I've been reading this ... very well done all in all, on page 37 they
say But Google lives on the internet. It's in our interest to make the
internet better and without competition we have stagnation

... funny that, make me think of the online ad market ;-)






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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Stut

On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:59, Richard Heyes wrote:

Can anyone say even more money  effort wasted on testing
webpages  :-(


Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.


Are you going to take the gamble? :-)


I'll decide when I can play with it and the official announcement  
spells out what they've modified.


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:36 +0100, Stut wrote:
 On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:
  Richard Heyes wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
  Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say browser
  war?
 
 
  Can anyone say even more money  effort wasted on testing
  webpages  :-(
 
 Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.

You must not remember IE 5.5 on IE and IE 5.5 on Mac. They were quite
different in annoying little places.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You must not remember IE 5.5 on IE and IE 5.5 on Mac. They were quite
 different in annoying little places.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
 If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)

Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Bastien Koert
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)

 Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 11:03 -0400, Bastien Koert wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)
 
  Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)
 
 
 Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards
 support

Call me a Doubting Thomas, but I wanna stick my fingers into IE8 before
I believe any of their claims.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread David Giragosian
On 9/2/08, Bastien Koert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)
 
  Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)
 
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 Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards
 support


The tech writer in our local newspaper reviewed IE8 this morning.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/silverman/5978053.html

Interesting read.

David


Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi,

And more about it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Diogo Neves
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 And more about it:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm

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 www.google.com/chrome

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Stut

On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

Now is the time ;)


Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

But only for Windows for now :(

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Thiago Melo de Paula
Yes, and the proxy configuration lauches the IE configuration window!


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

 Now is the time ;)


 Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

 But only for Windows for now :(

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

 Now is the time ;)

 Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

 But only for Windows for now :(

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I got the linux version coming soon message myself.  It will probably
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Joseph
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

 Now is the time ;)


 Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

 But only for Windows for now :(

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Well its not that exciting I guess.  All the hype, and its a browser. :)  It
is fast though, I'll give it that.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
 www.google.com/chrome

 Now is the time ;)

Sadly, my bedtime looms. Tomorrow I think...

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Heyes
 I got the linux version coming soon message myself.  It will probably
 be instructions on how to install wine, right? ;)

Or Windows... :-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 20:38 +0100, Stut wrote:
 On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:
  Now is the time ;)
 
 Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome
 
 But only for Windows for now :(

Oh well, guess I'll have to run it in vmware. Fortunately I have a
dedicate 1TB drive for vmware appliances :)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Douglas Temple
Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...


Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
 Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...


Ever use Safari?

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Douglas Temple
Once.

'Nuff said.


Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 21:10 +0100, Douglas Temple wrote:
 Once.

.. twice, three times a lady??

 'Nuff said.

Sorry, not enuff for me... not sure how it applies to the thread.

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Once.

 'Nuff said.


I used to hate it.  After using it for a while though I noticed that
it rendered pages faster than all the other browsers I use.  Too bad
the developer console isn't as nice as firebug though. :)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread TG
Mouse wheel works fine for me.

- Original Message -
From: Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

 Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
 Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...
 
 

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Haig Dedeyan
On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:

Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their license 
agreement:

By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, 
irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, 
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and 
distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the 
services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, 
distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services 
as defined in the additional terms of those services.

Haig


 Mouse wheel works fine for me.

 - Original Message -
 From: Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

  Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
  Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...



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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Diogo Neves
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:

 Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their license
 agreement:

 By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
 perpetual,
 irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to
 reproduce,
 adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
 distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the
 services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
 display,
 distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services
 as defined in the additional terms of those services.


What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never agreed
with this licence!



 Haig


  Mouse wheel works fine for me.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
  Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100
  Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
 
   Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
   Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...



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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Haig Dedeyan
On September 2, 2008 09:33:30 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
 
  Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their
  license agreement:
 
  By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
  perpetual,
  irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to
  reproduce,
  adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
  distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through,
  the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
  display,
  distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain
  services as defined in the additional terms of those services.

 What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never agreed
 with this licence!


I'm hoping that all this means is that they if you post something positive 
about chrome on some forum/blog, they can use it. Which begs the question, 
how would they know what I post.

Haig


  Haig
 
   Mouse wheel works fine for me.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
   Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100
   Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
  
Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...
 
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Diogo Neves
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Haig Dedeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On September 2, 2008 09:33:30 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
  
   Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their
   license agreement:
  
   By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
   perpetual,
   irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to
   reproduce,
   adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display
 and
   distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through,
   the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google
 to
   display,
   distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain
   services as defined in the additional terms of those services.
 
  What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never
 agreed
  with this licence!
 

 I'm hoping that all this means is that they if you post something positive
 about chrome on some forum/blog, they can use it. Which begs the question,
 how would they know what I post.

 Haig


That don't seem like All you say about this browser we can use, seams more
like All you spell out off by this browser is ours...
It think that every day they sounds more and more like Microsoft... A big
monopoly...
They deserve it, but still a monopoly and what it means




   Haig
  
Mouse wheel works fine for me.
   
- Original Message -
From: Douglas Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
   
 Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
 Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...
  
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Per Jessen
Stut wrote:

 On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:
 Now is the time ;)
 
 Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome
 
 But only for Windows for now :(
 

I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ...


/Per Jessen, Zürich


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