subject:"\[PHP\] IDE"

Re: [PHP] IDE

2012-05-07 Thread Simon Schick

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Ethan Rosenberg eth...@earthlink.net wrote:

===
Simon -

Thanks.

I don't think you're talking about auto-form-fill and stuff like
that, are you?

No, I am not.

Please send me your xdebug-config file.

Thanks

Ethan

Hi, Ethan

I forgot to mention that the whole configuration of my test-webserver
is on github ;) There are my configuration-files for apache, mysql,
nginx, php, solr and so on.
But I have to say that my environment is a bit special as I am
developing on a windows-machine and this configuration is running on a
virtual linux machine. Don't hesitate to ask things about the
configuration :)
https://github.com/SimonSimCity/webserver-configuration
For each program I have an init.sh script which will install the
program exactly the way I use it.
Feel free to fork it and add your stuff.

If you're just looking for the xdebug-configuration:
https://github.com/SimonSimCity/webserver-configuration/blob/master/php/conf/conf.d/xdebug.ini
You might have to change it to use it on a windows-environment ... at
least you'd have to move it into your php.ini file instead of an
separate configuration-file as it is on Linux.

As I am the only one developing on this machine, I've configured
xdebug in that way, that anyone can open a xdebug-debug-session. This
is done by enabling xdebug.remote_connect_back. Please do not use this
on your live-server, but set an ip-limit using xdebug.remote_host!

Please read this part of the xdebug-configuration to get a better
understanding on how to set up a working environment (specially the
part Starting The Debugger):
http://xdebug.org/docs/remote

The only problem I can report so far is, that I can't debug
command-line scripts ... If someone else reading that post has an
answer, I'd be glad to hear it.

Bye
Simon

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[PHP] IDE

2012-05-06 Thread Ethan Rosenberg


Dear List -

Is there any IDE which will let me step thru my code AND give the 
opportunity to enter data; eg, when a form should be displayed allow 
me to enter data into the form and then proceed?  I realize the forms 
are either HTML and/or Javascript, but there must be a 
work-around.  I is exceedingly tedious to use echo print var_dump print_r.


Thanks.

Ethan



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Re: [PHP] IDE

2012-05-06 Thread Simon Schick

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Ethan Rosenberg eth...@earthlink.net wrote:

Dear List -

Is there any IDE which will let me step thru my code AND give the
opportunity to enter data; eg, when a form should be displayed allow me to
enter data into the form and then proceed? I realize the forms are either
HTML and/or Javascript, but there must be a work-around. I is exceedingly
tedious to use echo print var_dump print_r.

Thanks.

Ethan

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Hi, Ethan

The only thing I can come up with, that would really help you, since
you're just working with var_dump and print_r, is a php-debugger.

The common debugger for php are Zend Debugger and xdebug.

Nearly every IDE can be connected to them and if you set it up
correctly you can browse through your side (using your favourite
browser) and activate the debugger just by setting a cookie. For
several browsers there are plugins that set the cookie by clicking an
icon.
I'm talking about nearly every IDE because I saw a screenshot of
someone debugging a php-script using xdebug and vi :)

Just the first two links I found on google ...
* http://xdebug.org/docs/install
*
http://www.thierryb.net/pdtwiki/index.php?title=Using_PDT_:_Installation_:_Installing_the_Zend_Debugger

Is that what you need?

I'm personally using PhpStorm and a VM with Debian, PHP 5.3 and xdebug
to debug my scripts and am perfectly fine with that. I can send you my
whole xdebug-config if you want :)

The stuff with javascript sounds like something automated to me ...
But I don't think you're talking about auto-form-fill and stuff like
that, are you?

Bye
Simon

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2012-05-06 Thread Ethan Rosenberg

At 06:45 PM 5/6/2012, Simon Schick wrote:

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Ethan Rosenberg eth...@earthlink.net wrote:

Dear List -

Is there any IDE which will let me step thru my code AND give the
opportunity to enter data; eg, when a form should be displayed allow me to
enter data into the form and then proceed? Â I realize the forms are either
HTML and/or Javascript, but there must be a work-around. Â I is exceedingly
tedious to use echo print var_dump print_r.

Thanks.

Ethan

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Hi, Ethan

The only thing I can come up with, that would really help you, since
you're just working with var_dump and print_r, is a php-debugger.

The common debugger for php are Zend Debugger and xdebug.

Just the first two links I found on google ...
* http://xdebug.org/docs/install
*
http://www.thierryb.net/pdtwiki/index.php?title=Using_PDT_:_Installation_:_Installing_the_Zend_Debugger

Is that what you need?

I'm personally using PhpStorm and a VM with Debian, PHP 5.3 and xdebug
to debug my scripts and am perfectly fine with that. I can send you my
whole xdebug-config if you want :)

The stuff with javascript sounds like something automated to me ...
But I don't think you're talking about auto-form-fill and stuff like
that, are you?

Bye
Simon

===
Simon -

Thanks.

I don't think you're talking about auto-form-fill and stuff like
that, are you?

No, I am not.

Please send me your xdebug-config file.

Thanks

Ethan

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[PHP] IDE - SVN - dev server - live server

2010-01-14 Thread John Corry

I am working on designing an documenting a process for our team to use to
manage code updates/changes.

What we've been doing has been ghastly: a bunch of developers using
dreamweaver's 'check in/out' functions, all using the same FTP login, to FTP
files to the production server.

It turns out the site we're working on together is a bit too complex for
this, so it's on me to come up with a better way.

I'm a big fan of SVN and think we'll be light years ahead of where we are
presently by using SVN to manage code revisions.

So, I've set up an SVN repository on our dedicated server and imported all
of the live-site code. Then I set up a dev virtual host (dev.domain.com) and
exported all of the code in my repository to that vhost's DocRoot. So...that
gave me a copy. Next, I copied the MySQL db to a separate db that we'll use
for the dev server...so dev code doesn't query the live db. Then of course,
I had to edit the config files that have DSN information in them to make
sure my dev site actually uses my dev db.

Here's where the problems start to creep in...

If I export the whole repository from SVN to the dev DocRoot directory, I'm
going to overwrite the config files that have DSN info in them. Similarly,
there are some javascript files that declare variables like var base_url = '
http://mysite.com'...those variables need to be set once for the environment
(my local IDE? the dev server? the production server?) and then not messed
with afterward.

After an SVN commit, it's really easy to svn export svn://localhost/mysite
/path/to/my/dev_server

Simple, all of the code in the repository goes to the dev server.

The issue I'm having is that there are a number of files that I do NOT want
to be copied from the repository to the dev server, except on
rare occasions.

So, I can choose to add the files to my svn:ignore in my working copy so
they aren't committed/updated. But I can't ensure that all of the developers
take this step and it's not a reliable way to keep those select files in the
repository out of my dev server.

Or, I can write a shell script that does the SVN export, then overwrites the
selected config files with master versions that are stored somewhere else
and not edited by any of the team. One problem with that though, is that our
main javascript file tends to be edited/changed and it's one that can create
problems if that base_url var isn't appropriate to the server it's on.

Or, in all of my PHP files, I can write the config values into switch
statements:
switch($_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']) {
  case 'mysite.local':
 // local IDE config directives
  case 'dev.mysite.com':
 // dev server config directives
  // etc...
}

...but that leaves the production server DSN sitting around in development
code, which I'd like to avoid, and I don't have an analogous solution for my
javascript files.

JS question: is there a js way to do the same thing? Evaluate the js
equivalent of PHP's $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']? If there is, I think this
solution will work.

This has got to be a fairly typical workflow and problem.

What are some of the strategies you folks use for designing your flow of
code from local IDE to SVN to dev server to production server?

-- 
John Corry
PHP developer - 3by400, Inc
http://www.3by400.com

Re: [PHP] IDE - SVN - dev server - live server

2010-01-14 Thread vikash . iitb

I do not see the reason why you would need an absolute URL like var base_url
= '
http://mysite.com' in your javascript code.

If only this is giving you problems, use: *window.location.hostname* to get
the hostname in javascript.

---
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http://vika.sh


On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:40 PM, John Corry jcorry.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am working on designing an documenting a process for our team to use to
 manage code updates/changes.

 What we've been doing has been ghastly: a bunch of developers using
 dreamweaver's 'check in/out' functions, all using the same FTP login, to
 FTP
 files to the production server.

 It turns out the site we're working on together is a bit too complex for
 this, so it's on me to come up with a better way.

 I'm a big fan of SVN and think we'll be light years ahead of where we are
 presently by using SVN to manage code revisions.

 So, I've set up an SVN repository on our dedicated server and imported all
 of the live-site code. Then I set up a dev virtual host (dev.domain.com)
 and
 exported all of the code in my repository to that vhost's DocRoot.
 So...that
 gave me a copy. Next, I copied the MySQL db to a separate db that we'll use
 for the dev server...so dev code doesn't query the live db. Then of course,
 I had to edit the config files that have DSN information in them to make
 sure my dev site actually uses my dev db.

 Here's where the problems start to creep in...

 If I export the whole repository from SVN to the dev DocRoot directory, I'm
 going to overwrite the config files that have DSN info in them. Similarly,
 there are some javascript files that declare variables like var base_url =
 '
 http://mysite.com'...those variables need to be set once for the
 environment
 (my local IDE? the dev server? the production server?) and then not messed
 with afterward.

 After an SVN commit, it's really easy to svn export svn://localhost/mysite
 /path/to/my/dev_server

 Simple, all of the code in the repository goes to the dev server.

 The issue I'm having is that there are a number of files that I do NOT want
 to be copied from the repository to the dev server, except on
 rare occasions.

 So, I can choose to add the files to my svn:ignore in my working copy so
 they aren't committed/updated. But I can't ensure that all of the
 developers
 take this step and it's not a reliable way to keep those select files in
 the
 repository out of my dev server.

 Or, I can write a shell script that does the SVN export, then overwrites
 the
 selected config files with master versions that are stored somewhere else
 and not edited by any of the team. One problem with that though, is that
 our
 main javascript file tends to be edited/changed and it's one that can
 create
 problems if that base_url var isn't appropriate to the server it's on.

 Or, in all of my PHP files, I can write the config values into switch
 statements:
 switch($_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']) {
  case 'mysite.local':
 // local IDE config directives
  case 'dev.mysite.com':
 // dev server config directives
  // etc...
 }

 ...but that leaves the production server DSN sitting around in development
 code, which I'd like to avoid, and I don't have an analogous solution for
 my
 javascript files.

 JS question: is there a js way to do the same thing? Evaluate the js
 equivalent of PHP's $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']? If there is, I think this
 solution will work.

 This has got to be a fairly typical workflow and problem.

 What are some of the strategies you folks use for designing your flow of
 code from local IDE to SVN to dev server to production server?

 --
 John Corry
 PHP developer - 3by400, Inc
 http://www.3by400.com

[PHP] IDE with ftp and subversion?

2009-10-24 Thread Lars Nielsen

Hi there,

Can anyone recommend an IDE with both subversion and ftp integration?
I have played a little with eclipse but find the integrations a little
dificult to manage.
Idealy I want a local development server with LAMP+svn and then an easy
opportunity to publish a site to a production server.

Can anyone give me a hint?

Regards
Lars Nielsen


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Re: [PHP] IDE with ftp and subversion?

2009-10-24 Thread John Black


Lars Nielsen wrote:

Can anyone recommend an IDE with both subversion and ftp integration?
I have played a little with eclipse but find the integrations a little
dificult to manage.
Idealy I want a local development server with LAMP+svn and then an easy
opportunity to publish a site to a production server.



Have you tried Netbeans?
http://www.netbeans.org/downloads/index.html

It comes with svn support, can upload your project to your webserver 
over ftp, step by step debugger and a lot more.


Give it a try
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prove anything.

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Re: [PHP] IDE with ftp and subversion?

2009-10-24 Thread Lars Nielsen

Hi,
No I have not tryed that yet. Giving it a shot now! :-) 

Thanks

/Lars
lør, 24 10 2009 kl. 12:15 +0200, skrev John Black:
 Lars Nielsen wrote:
  Can anyone recommend an IDE with both subversion and ftp integration?
  I have played a little with eclipse but find the integrations a little
  dificult to manage.
  Idealy I want a local development server with LAMP+svn and then an easy
  opportunity to publish a site to a production server.
 
 
 Have you tried Netbeans?
   http://www.netbeans.org/downloads/index.html
 
 It comes with svn support, can upload your project to your webserver 
 over ftp, step by step debugger and a lot more.
 
 Give it a try
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 A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not 
 prove anything.
 [Friedrich Nietzsche]
 


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Re: [PHP] IDE with ftp and subversion?

2009-10-24 Thread Lars Nielsen

lør, 24 10 2009 kl. 12:15 +0200, skrev John Black:
 Lars Nielsen wrote:
  Can anyone recommend an IDE with both subversion and ftp integration?
  I have played a little with eclipse but find the integrations a little
  dificult to manage.
  Idealy I want a local development server with LAMP+svn and then an easy
  opportunity to publish a site to a production server.
 
 
 Have you tried Netbeans?
   http://www.netbeans.org/downloads/index.html
 
 It comes with svn support, can upload your project to your webserver 
 over ftp, step by step debugger and a lot more.
 
 Give it a try
 -- 
 John
 A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not 
 prove anything.
 [Friedrich Nietzsche]
 
Thanks again! :-)
It works like a dream! 

/Lars


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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Shelley

Though vim is not a so-called IDE, actually it's quite handy.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Sascha Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi people,

 I have a webproject which is round about 3 GB in size. I was usually
 using eclipse to work with the software but over time eclipse became
 very instable regarding that project.

 As soon as I open classes with 2000 or more lines of code in it, an out
 of memory error occours.

 So I need a new IDE for linux.

 Please tell me which IDE might be a true alternative for projects at
 that size.

 Thank you friends,

 kind regards,

 Sascha

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Dotan Cohen

2008/8/28 Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Though vim is not a so-called IDE, actually it's quite handy.


And as PHP is not [generally] compiled, no IDE is needed. VIM is
great, and for a GUI text editor I use Kate. Note that there will soon
be a VIM mode in Kate! I cannot wait!

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Stut


On 28 Aug 2008, at 11:57, Dotan Cohen wrote:

2008/8/28 Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Though vim is not a so-called IDE, actually it's quite handy.



And as PHP is not [generally] compiled, no IDE is needed. VIM is
great, and for a GUI text editor I use Kate. Note that there will soon
be a VIM mode in Kate! I cannot wait!


What does compilation have to do with it? C/C++ are rarely interpreted  
but that certainly doesn't dictate a need for an IDE.


This question comes up so often it's painful, but I don't think I've  
ever actually answered it. I use TextMate most of the time, Coda for  
remote projects and occasionally Zend Studio when I need to step  
through code. I've also gone through phases of using vi, vim, pico,  
nano, emacs, epsilon, kate, notepad(!), notepad2, aptana, eclipse, and  
many more I can't remember. It's text, use what works for you.


I recently made the mistake of putting over 100k fairly small data  
files into the tree for my current project and it completely killed  
TextMate. Best option for lots of files or very large files is to  
disable any automatic scanning your editor does. You may lose some of  
the nice-to-have features like code completion but to me that's a  
small price to pay for being able to do anything at all.


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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Brice


 Please tell me which IDE might be a true alternative for projects at
 that size.


Don't know for sure, but you can try Netbeans for PHP  :

http://php.netbeans.org/

kind regards,
Brice Favre

Thank you friends,

 kind regards,

 Sascha

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Dotan Cohen

2008/8/28 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 And as PHP is not [generally] compiled, no IDE is needed. VIM is
 great, and for a GUI text editor I use Kate. Note that there will soon
 be a VIM mode in Kate! I cannot wait!

 What does compilation have to do with it? C/C++ are rarely interpreted but
 that certainly doesn't dictate a need for an IDE.

Non-compiled languages need only a text editor. Text editors have
features such as code completion, library reference, code
highlighting, code folding, multiple document interface, etc.

Compiled languages need a compiler. Cooperation between the compiler
and the text editor is done in an IDE. That's what the I in
_Integrated_ Development Environment means. If you don't need to
integrate with anything (specifically, a compiler) then you don't need
an integrated development environment.

 This question comes up so often it's painful, but I don't think I've ever
 actually answered it. I use TextMate most of the time, Coda for remote
 projects and occasionally Zend Studio when I need to step through code. I've
 also gone through phases of using vi, vim, pico, nano, emacs, epsilon, kate,
 notepad(!), notepad2, aptana, eclipse, and many more I can't remember. It's
 text, use what works for you.


I've also rarely answered this question, and I don't know why I spoke up today.

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Dan Joseph

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/8/28 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  And as PHP is not [generally] compiled, no IDE is needed. VIM is
  great, and for a GUI text editor I use Kate. Note that there will soon
  be a VIM mode in Kate! I cannot wait!
 
  What does compilation have to do with it? C/C++ are rarely interpreted
 but
  that certainly doesn't dictate a need for an IDE.

 Non-compiled languages need only a text editor. Text editors have
 features such as code completion, library reference, code
 highlighting, code folding, multiple document interface, etc.

 Compiled languages need a compiler. Cooperation between the compiler
 and the text editor is done in an IDE. That's what the I in
 _Integrated_ Development Environment means. If you don't need to
 integrate with anything (specifically, a compiler) then you don't need
 an integrated development environment.

  This question comes up so often it's painful, but I don't think I've ever
  actually answered it. I use TextMate most of the time, Coda for remote
  projects and occasionally Zend Studio when I need to step through code.
 I've
  also gone through phases of using vi, vim, pico, nano, emacs, epsilon,
 kate,
  notepad(!), notepad2, aptana, eclipse, and many more I can't remember.
 It's
  text, use what works for you.
 

 I've also rarely answered this question, and I don't know why I spoke up
 today.

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Well, while that is true about compiling, you're forgetting about other
things inside of an IDE, such as debugging.  Yes, you can just pull up a web
browser or run the script at command line, but the debugger also has the
stepping features and break points that can make debugging a whole lot
easier and quicker.

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Stut


On 28 Aug 2008, at 13:59, Dotan Cohen wrote:

2008/8/28 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

And as PHP is not [generally] compiled, no IDE is needed. VIM is
great, and for a GUI text editor I use Kate. Note that there will  
soon

be a VIM mode in Kate! I cannot wait!


What does compilation have to do with it? C/C++ are rarely  
interpreted but

that certainly doesn't dictate a need for an IDE.


Non-compiled languages need only a text editor. Text editors have
features such as code completion, library reference, code
highlighting, code folding, multiple document interface, etc.

Compiled languages need a compiler. Cooperation between the compiler
and the text editor is done in an IDE. That's what the I in
_Integrated_ Development Environment means. If you don't need to
integrate with anything (specifically, a compiler) then you don't need
an integrated development environment.


The point I was trying to make which I apparently didn't do very well  
was that the need for an IDE has nothing to do with whether the  
language you're using is compiled or interpreted, but instead with  
what you want from your development tools. You can develop with C++  
without an IDE in exactly the same way as you can with PHP. All you're  
doing is replacing the PHP interpreter with a C++ compiler. That extra  
tool is still needed, but integration with an editor is entirely  
optional.


And thanks for the tasty eggs!

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Dotan Cohen

2008/8/28 Dan Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well, while that is true about compiling, you're forgetting about other
 things inside of an IDE, such as debugging.  Yes, you can just pull up a web
 browser or run the script at command line, but the debugger also has the
 stepping features and break points that can make debugging a whole lot
 easier and quicker.


Dan, you are right. A debugger most certainly makes it an IDE. As I
don't use a debugger I never really paid attention to their existence.
I stand corrected.

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Dotan Cohen

2008/8/28 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 And thanks for the tasty eggs!


Eggs? I've obviously missed something.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Micah Gersten

That's an opinion that you state as fact.  I use an IDE for PHP for
function referencing is very PHP.  The open declaration feature is very
helpful in eclipse.   Also, subeclipse is great too.

Thank you,
Micah Gersten
onShore Networks
Internal Developer
http://www.onshore.com



Dotan Cohen wrote:
 Non-compiled languages need only a text editor. Text editors have
 features such as code completion, library reference, code
 highlighting, code folding, multiple document interface, etc.

 Compiled languages need a compiler. Cooperation between the compiler
 and the text editor is done in an IDE. That's what the I in
 _Integrated_ Development Environment means. If you don't need to
 integrate with anything (specifically, a compiler) then you don't need
 an integrated development environment.

   
 This question comes up so often it's painful, but I don't think I've ever
 actually answered it. I use TextMate most of the time, Coda for remote
 projects and occasionally Zend Studio when I need to step through code. I've
 also gone through phases of using vi, vim, pico, nano, emacs, epsilon, kate,
 notepad(!), notepad2, aptana, eclipse, and many more I can't remember. It's
 text, use what works for you.

 

 I've also rarely answered this question, and I don't know why I spoke up 
 today.

   

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Dotan Cohen

2008/8/28 Micah Gersten [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 That's an opinion that you state as fact.

You must be new here :)

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Micah Gersten

I've been on the list for over a month and I post quite a bit.  I do the
same thing apparently.  See 'Re: [PHP] Re: Variable name as a string'
thread.  :-)

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Dotan Cohen wrote:
 2008/8/28 Micah Gersten [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 That's an opinion that you state as fact.
 

 You must be new here :)

Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Dotan Cohen

2008/8/28 Micah Gersten [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 You must be new here :)

 I've been on the list for over a month and I post quite a bit.

It is an internet meme for those who express surprise at some old
internet habits. Probably most familiar to readers of /.. It was meant
as an in-joke, with absolutely no offense intended. Quite the
opposite, it is most often said to veterans.

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Lupus Michaelis


Shelley a écrit :

Though vim is not a so-called IDE, actually it's quite handy.


  Actually, it is. An IDE is a glue between a set of tools. Vim 
provides every services you need, and it is scriptable.


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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-28 Thread Brendon Van Heyzen

I really like zend studio for eclipse, debugger is slow at times on  
large projects. I hope, zend said they won't, is provide xdebug  
support for zend studio. I also really like working with mylyn.

--Brendon


On Aug 27, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Sascha Braun wrote:


Hi people,

I have a webproject which is round about 3 GB in size. I was usually
using eclipse to work with the software but over time eclipse became
very instable regarding that project.

As soon as I open classes with 2000 or more lines of code in it, an  
out

of memory error occours.

So I need a new IDE for linux.

Please tell me which IDE might be a true alternative for projects at
that size.

Thank you friends,

kind regards,

Sascha

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-27 Thread VamVan

use Aptana its awesome and free as well.

thanks



On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Micah Gersten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How much RAM do you have?  Eclipse is a great IDE.  Have you upgraded to
 3.4?

 Thank you,
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 Internal Developer
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 Sascha Braun wrote:
  Hi people,
 
  I have a webproject which is round about 3 GB in size. I was usually
  using eclipse to work with the software but over time eclipse became
  very instable regarding that project.
 
  As soon as I open classes with 2000 or more lines of code in it, an out
  of memory error occours.
 
  So I need a new IDE for linux.
 
  Please tell me which IDE might be a true alternative for projects at
  that size.
 
  Thank you friends,
 
  kind regards,
 
  Sascha
 

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[PHP] Re: PHP IDE needed

2008-08-27 Thread Carlos Medina


Sascha Braun schrieb:

Hi people,

I have a webproject which is round about 3 GB in size. I was usually
using eclipse to work with the software but over time eclipse became
very instable regarding that project.

As soon as I open classes with 2000 or more lines of code in it, an out
of memory error occours.

So I need a new IDE for linux.

Please tell me which IDE might be a true alternative for projects at
that size.

Thank you friends,

kind regards,

Sascha

Hi Sascha,
Try PHPed

Regards

Carlos

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP IDE needed

2008-08-27 Thread Sancar Saran

Whats wrong with

echo ?php echo Hello World; ?  index.php


is there anything to satisfy your needs...

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-27 Thread Shawn McKenzie


VamVan wrote:

use Aptana its awesome and free as well.

thanks




And it's Eclipse as well :-)

-Shawn

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[PHP] [OT|Troll] Re: [PHP] Re: PHP IDE needed

2008-08-27 Thread Lupus Michaelis


Sancar Saran a écrit :

Whats wrong with

echo ?php echo Hello World; ?  index.php


  Two syntacticals errors ? :p



is there anything to satisfy your needs...


  I prefer cat for that purpose, more flexible.

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[PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-26 Thread Sascha Braun


Hi people,

I have a webproject which is round about 3 GB in size. I was usually
using eclipse to work with the software but over time eclipse became
very instable regarding that project.

As soon as I open classes with 2000 or more lines of code in it, an out
of memory error occours.

So I need a new IDE for linux.

Please tell me which IDE might be a true alternative for projects at
that size.

Thank you friends,

kind regards,

Sascha

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Re: [PHP] PHP IDE needed

2008-08-26 Thread Micah Gersten

How much RAM do you have?  Eclipse is a great IDE.  Have you upgraded to
3.4?

Thank you,
Micah Gersten
onShore Networks
Internal Developer
http://www.onshore.com



Sascha Braun wrote:
 Hi people,

 I have a webproject which is round about 3 GB in size. I was usually
 using eclipse to work with the software but over time eclipse became
 very instable regarding that project.

 As soon as I open classes with 2000 or more lines of code in it, an out
 of memory error occours.

 So I need a new IDE for linux.

 Please tell me which IDE might be a true alternative for projects at
 that size.

 Thank you friends,

 kind regards,

 Sascha


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[PHP] Your Favourate PHP IDE?

2008-01-28 Thread skylark

Hi all,

We all know that PHP IDE is one of the most popular themes...

Maybe you are already a PHP professional, then could you
please spend a little time to cast your vote to tell the newbies what
you are using?

Maybe you are just starting using PHP, then it's highly recommended
that you look
at the vote results first instead of asking the questions directly to
the mailing list.

Maybe you are...

Come and vote! Share your ideas here: http://www.phparch.cn

Tell me which is your selection and get an opportunity to win Olympic gifts. :-)

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread tedd


At 11:30 PM + 11/15/07, Jammer wrote:


duh!

look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!


Only the newbies -- the rest of us are prefect.  :-)

I walked into a bank once and found everyone laying on the floor. I 
had not done anything wrong, but it was just a matter of bad timing.


Cheers,

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RE: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Arno Kuhl

-Original Message-
From: William Betts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2007 05:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: David Giragosian; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] IDE

Have you ever used Zend Studio? If so how does it compare to PhpED?

---

I've tried Zend Studio a few times, but I certainly can't say I'm familiar
with it enough to give any real comparison. I looked at the Zend tools
pretty closely 4 years ago, and quite superficially a couple of times since
then. I found ZS slow and cumbersome, and not very intuitive (probably due
to unfamiliarity more than anything else). I'm sure each has it's strengths
and weaknesses. I decided on PhpED because (a) it was fast and intuitive and
I felt comfortable with it straight away, coming from c dev background using
IBM dev tools, (b) it had everything I expected in an IDE and more, (c) the
response from NuSphere and the forums was quick, (d) it was much cheaper
than ZS. Since making the choice I find PhpED very stable, and the updates
are frequent with real useful new features and functionality. The latest
version has a feature I requested a few months ago  so the developers are
generally good at listening to feedback and requests. And the debugger is
excellent. PhpED is the single most important dev tool I have and well worth
the investment, and I'm not sure the extra cost for ZS would have given me
any extra value. But I'm sure there are many ZS users who would disagree.
Best advice is do what I did - download both trial versions and give them a
thorough test yourself. What you feel comfortable with is likely different
to what I feel comfortable with.

Arno

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Jammer


Børge Holen wrote:

On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:35:04 Jammer wrote:

Hi All,

This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but work
during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking to gen up
on my PHP.

Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free ones!

TIA,

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I LOVE this IDE quiz' 
the same answers everytime.


duh!

look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!

if this is a question that comes up as often as it appears from the 
responses this thread has generated maybe the FAQ needs to *really* 
address that?


http://uk3.php.net/FAQ.php

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Jammer


Arno Kuhl wrote:

I think jammer's idea is a good one. I've been lurking on this list for
years and seen many resurrections of the IDE thread. It's an important
thread, and the PHP IDE world is ever changing and new products come onto
the scene every now and then. I use my favourite commercial IDE but quite
frequently check out the other IDE's mentioned in those threads, mostly to
confirm the choice I made 4 years ago is still the right one. A
well-maintained list of free and commercial PHP IDE's on the php.net site
would be a great idea, especially if it also had links to reviews, and also
included the mix-n-match IDE's I see some people on the list use. And/or
maybe a forum on php.net dedicated to PHP IDE's, with user polls. Then
whenever the IDE thread pops up the response would be to look at the web
site (RTFWS). The only downside might be the resources to run it.


thanks.

I think the point being that most people will have done a simple google 
search in order to have found php.net ... if the IDE topic was obvious 
on that page most people would find it, and have this question answered, 
before finding this list and subscribing.


we as developers must know that if repeated 'users' are appearing here 
with the same questions something is up?  no?  ;)


its like good interface design if you get loads of questions about 
something regarding software you wrote there is a chance that a lot of 
those could be delt with by subtle changes to the way you present things 
to users.



BTW jammer, if you start using php for big projects I'd recommend NuSphere
PhpED, but it's overkill if you just want to dabble. There's a trial version
if you want to check it out, and a good tip is they drop the price every now
and then for promotions (wish I knew that 4 years ago).


well at the moment it is just dabbling to be honest but i'm currently 
redesigning my home site and am investigating the options before laying 
any code down.  one thing i'm considering if a tighter integration with 
my wordpress blog to replace a news type page.  that sort of thing, no 
full on web apps.


i'd propably turn to something like C# in visual web developer if i were 
to go that route simply from familiarity.


thanks for the headsup on the IDE.  off to check it out now.

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Jammer


tedd wrote:

At 11:30 PM + 11/15/07, Jammer wrote:


duh!

look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!


Only the newbies -- the rest of us are prefect.  :-)


haha! ;)

I walked into a bank once and found everyone laying on the floor. I had 
not done anything wrong, but it was just a matter of bad timing.


oooh dear ... that doesn't bode well!

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Daniel Brown

On Nov 16, 2007 6:37 AM, Arno Kuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: David Giragosian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 November 2007 05:21
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] IDE

 On 11/15/07, Jammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Børge Holen wrote:
   On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:35:04 Jammer wrote:
   Hi All,

   This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but
   work during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking
   to gen up on my PHP.

   Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free
  ones!

   TIA,

   --
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   www.jammer.biz

   I LOVE this IDE quiz'
   the same answers everytime.

  duh!

  look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!

  if this is a question that comes up as often as it appears from the
  responses this thread has generated maybe the FAQ needs to *really*
  address that?

  http://uk3.php.net/FAQ.php

  --
  jammer

 It's OK. I think there's been a long thread on the subject each of the last
 two weeks. The folks who are really passionate about their IDE's jump in
 first, then those less motivated or less interested add theirs, then it
 seems to die for a day or so before it rises from the ashes to sputter and
 hiccup a time or two. And then it starts all over, again.

 If you stick around long enough on this list, you'll be fussin' at the
 question, too.

 David
 --

 I think jammer's idea is a good one. I've been lurking on this list for
 years and seen many resurrections of the IDE thread. It's an important
 thread, and the PHP IDE world is ever changing and new products come onto
 the scene every now and then. I use my favourite commercial IDE but quite
 frequently check out the other IDE's mentioned in those threads, mostly to
 confirm the choice I made 4 years ago is still the right one. A
 well-maintained list of free and commercial PHP IDE's on the php.net site
 would be a great idea, especially if it also had links to reviews, and also
 included the mix-n-match IDE's I see some people on the list use. And/or
 maybe a forum on php.net dedicated to PHP IDE's, with user polls. Then
 whenever the IDE thread pops up the response would be to look at the web
 site (RTFWS). The only downside might be the resources to run it.

 BTW jammer, if you start using php for big projects I'd recommend NuSphere
 PhpED, but it's overkill if you just want to dabble. There's a trial version
 if you want to check it out, and a good tip is they drop the price every now
 and then for promotions (wish I knew that 4 years ago).

 Arno

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I can understand your concerns about the issue not being addressed
in the FAQs when it is such a prevalent discussion.  However, it
wouldn't make a suitable FAQ entry because the opinions of which IDE
is best are just that: opinions.  And to list just a few of the IDEs
available on the official site would insinuate that both the PHP
community and the project itself endorse them.

A great resource for something like that would be to check out a
PHP-oriented site.  Once again, http://www.phpbuilder.com/ comes to
mind.  I don't know statistics on that-versus-other sites, but I'd
hazard a guess that PHP Builder probably has one of - if not the -
busiest, most active forum communities.

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RE: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Arno Kuhl

-Original Message-
From: David Giragosian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2007 05:21
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] IDE

On 11/15/07, Jammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Børge Holen wrote:
  On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:35:04 Jammer wrote:
  Hi All,

  This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but 
  work during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking 
  to gen up on my PHP.

  Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free
 ones!

  TIA,

  --
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  www.jammer.biz

  I LOVE this IDE quiz'
  the same answers everytime.

 duh!

 look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!

 if this is a question that comes up as often as it appears from the 
 responses this thread has generated maybe the FAQ needs to *really* 
 address that?

 http://uk3.php.net/FAQ.php

 --
 jammer

It's OK. I think there's been a long thread on the subject each of the last
two weeks. The folks who are really passionate about their IDE's jump in
first, then those less motivated or less interested add theirs, then it
seems to die for a day or so before it rises from the ashes to sputter and
hiccup a time or two. And then it starts all over, again.

If you stick around long enough on this list, you'll be fussin' at the
question, too.

David
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I think jammer's idea is a good one. I've been lurking on this list for
years and seen many resurrections of the IDE thread. It's an important
thread, and the PHP IDE world is ever changing and new products come onto
the scene every now and then. I use my favourite commercial IDE but quite
frequently check out the other IDE's mentioned in those threads, mostly to
confirm the choice I made 4 years ago is still the right one. A
well-maintained list of free and commercial PHP IDE's on the php.net site
would be a great idea, especially if it also had links to reviews, and also
included the mix-n-match IDE's I see some people on the list use. And/or
maybe a forum on php.net dedicated to PHP IDE's, with user polls. Then
whenever the IDE thread pops up the response would be to look at the web
site (RTFWS). The only downside might be the resources to run it.

BTW jammer, if you start using php for big projects I'd recommend NuSphere
PhpED, but it's overkill if you just want to dabble. There's a trial version
if you want to check it out, and a good tip is they drop the price every now
and then for promotions (wish I knew that 4 years ago).

Arno

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread William Betts

Have you ever used Zend Studio? If so how does it compare to PhpED?

On Nov 16, 2007 5:37 AM, Arno Kuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: David Giragosian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 November 2007 05:21
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] IDE

 On 11/15/07, Jammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Børge Holen wrote:
   On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:35:04 Jammer wrote:
   Hi All,

   This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but
   work during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking
   to gen up on my PHP.

   Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free
  ones!

   TIA,

   --
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   www.jammer.biz

   I LOVE this IDE quiz'
   the same answers everytime.

  duh!

  look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!

  if this is a question that comes up as often as it appears from the
  responses this thread has generated maybe the FAQ needs to *really*
  address that?

  http://uk3.php.net/FAQ.php

  --
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 It's OK. I think there's been a long thread on the subject each of the last
 two weeks. The folks who are really passionate about their IDE's jump in
 first, then those less motivated or less interested add theirs, then it
 seems to die for a day or so before it rises from the ashes to sputter and
 hiccup a time or two. And then it starts all over, again.

 If you stick around long enough on this list, you'll be fussin' at the
 question, too.

 David
 --

 I think jammer's idea is a good one. I've been lurking on this list for
 years and seen many resurrections of the IDE thread. It's an important
 thread, and the PHP IDE world is ever changing and new products come onto
 the scene every now and then. I use my favourite commercial IDE but quite
 frequently check out the other IDE's mentioned in those threads, mostly to
 confirm the choice I made 4 years ago is still the right one. A
 well-maintained list of free and commercial PHP IDE's on the php.net site
 would be a great idea, especially if it also had links to reviews, and also
 included the mix-n-match IDE's I see some people on the list use. And/or
 maybe a forum on php.net dedicated to PHP IDE's, with user polls. Then
 whenever the IDE thread pops up the response would be to look at the web
 site (RTFWS). The only downside might be the resources to run it.

 BTW jammer, if you start using php for big projects I'd recommend NuSphere
 PhpED, but it's overkill if you just want to dabble. There's a trial version
 if you want to check it out, and a good tip is they drop the price every now
 and then for promotions (wish I knew that 4 years ago).

 Arno

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-16 Thread Larry Garfield

I haven't used PhpED, but I use Zend Studio Pro at work.  It is hands-down the 
best PHP IDE I've used.  (As I said, I cannot compare it to PhpED 
specifically.)  Little things like project management and code completion and 
such just work better than any other tool I've found, and it's debugger and 
profiler are also first-rate.  Performance is good, too.

At home, I've been avoiding buying it because it's $300 flipping dollars, and 
I'm wary of their time-based licensing.  It's also, of course, very non-Free, 
and I try to stick to open source programs at home (and at work when I can).  
I've bounced around between a lot of different PHP editing tools.  At the 
moment I'm using Eclipse-PDT, which is finally not so slow as to be unsable 
as previous versions of Eclipse were.  It's nowhere near as nice as Zend 
Studio, but at least it's [F|f]ree and once you figure out the weirdness that 
is Eclipse it gets the job done.  Still need to get it talking to XDebug, 
though.

On Friday 16 November 2007, William Betts wrote:
 Have you ever used Zend Studio? If so how does it compare to PhpED?

 On Nov 16, 2007 5:37 AM, Arno Kuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: David Giragosian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 16 November 2007 05:21
  To: php-general@lists.php.net
  Subject: Re: [PHP] IDE
 
  On 11/15/07, Jammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Børge Holen wrote:
On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:35:04 Jammer wrote:
Hi All,
   
This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but
work during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking
to gen up on my PHP.
   
Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free
  
   ones!
  
TIA,
   
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www.jammer.biz
   
I LOVE this IDE quiz'
the same answers everytime.
  
   duh!
  
   look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!
  
   if this is a question that comes up as often as it appears from the
   responses this thread has generated maybe the FAQ needs to *really*
   address that?
  
   http://uk3.php.net/FAQ.php
  
   --
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  It's OK. I think there's been a long thread on the subject each of the
  last two weeks. The folks who are really passionate about their IDE's
  jump in first, then those less motivated or less interested add theirs,
  then it seems to die for a day or so before it rises from the ashes to
  sputter and hiccup a time or two. And then it starts all over, again.
 
  If you stick around long enough on this list, you'll be fussin' at the
  question, too.
 
  David
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  I think jammer's idea is a good one. I've been lurking on this list for
  years and seen many resurrections of the IDE thread. It's an important
  thread, and the PHP IDE world is ever changing and new products come onto
  the scene every now and then. I use my favourite commercial IDE but quite
  frequently check out the other IDE's mentioned in those threads, mostly
  to confirm the choice I made 4 years ago is still the right one. A
  well-maintained list of free and commercial PHP IDE's on the php.net site
  would be a great idea, especially if it also had links to reviews, and
  also included the mix-n-match IDE's I see some people on the list use.
  And/or maybe a forum on php.net dedicated to PHP IDE's, with user polls.
  Then whenever the IDE thread pops up the response would be to look at the
  web site (RTFWS). The only downside might be the resources to run it.
 
  BTW jammer, if you start using php for big projects I'd recommend
  NuSphere PhpED, but it's overkill if you just want to dabble. There's a
  trial version if you want to check it out, and a good tip is they drop
  the price every now and then for promotions (wish I knew that 4 years
  ago).
 
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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-15 Thread Daniel Brown

On Nov 15, 2007 3:35 PM, Jammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but work
 during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking to gen up
 on my PHP.

 Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free ones!

 TIA,

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Yes, and you can find them on Google and in the list archives.

This is one of the most frequently-asked questions it's a
shame the listserv can't filter those to point the user to an FAQ.

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-15 Thread Stut


Jammer wrote:

Hi All,

This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but work 
during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking to gen up 
on my PHP.


Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free ones!

TIA,


Will you please check the freakin' archives. This topic has been covered 
numerous times over the past week or so.


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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-15 Thread William Betts

I like Zend Studio. www.zend.com.

William Betts

On Nov 15, 2007 2:35 PM, Jammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but work
 during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking to gen up
 on my PHP.

 Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free ones!

 TIA,

 --
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[PHP] IDE

2007-11-15 Thread Jammer


Hi All,

This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but work 
during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking to gen up 
on my PHP.


Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free ones!

TIA,

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-15 Thread Børge Holen


On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:35:04 Jammer wrote:
 Hi All,

 This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but work
 during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking to gen up
 on my PHP.

 Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free ones!

 TIA,

 --
 jammer
 www.jammer.biz

I LOVE this IDE quiz' 
the same answers everytime.

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Re: [PHP] IDE

2007-11-15 Thread David Giragosian

On 11/15/07, Jammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Børge Holen wrote:
  On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:35:04 Jammer wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  This is my first post here ... I'm very much a newbie to php but work
  during the day using SQL Server, VS2005 and Foxpro.  Looking to gen up
  on my PHP.
 
  Are there any IDE's for PHP worth checking out.  Particularly free
 ones!
 
  TIA,
 
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  www.jammer.biz
 
  I LOVE this IDE quiz'
  the same answers everytime.

 duh!

 look, i'm really sorry everyone ... we all make mistakes!

 if this is a question that comes up as often as it appears from the
 responses this thread has generated maybe the FAQ needs to *really*
 address that?

 http://uk3.php.net/FAQ.php

 --
 jammer

It's OK. I think there's been a long thread on the subject each of the last
two weeks. The folks who are really passionate about their IDE's jump in
first, then those less motivated or less interested add theirs, then it
seems to die for a day or so before it rises from the ashes to sputter and
hiccup a time or two. And then it starts all over, again.

If you stick around long enough on this list, you'll be fussin' at the
question, too.

David

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