[PHP] Multiple Emails
Is anyone else getting multiple emails from this list? I'm about to jump on people for asking the same question 3 or 4 times, but maybe it's just me getting copies of the same message. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Multiple Emails
are all your email duplicated? if people are replying to a message you sent you are probably getting one copy from them and one from the list. -Original Message- From: 1LT John W. Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Multiple Emails Is anyone else getting multiple emails from this list? I'm about to jump on people for asking the same question 3 or 4 times, but maybe it's just me getting copies of the same message. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Multiple Emails
are all your email duplicated? if people are replying to a message you sent you are probably getting one copy from them and one from the list. No, it's not that. I'm talking about just regular questions that are send only to the list. Hours later I will receive another copy of the message for some reason. Maybe it's my ISP. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Multiple Emails
At 15:47 29.01.2003, 1LT John W. Holmes spoke out and said: [snip] are all your email duplicated? if people are replying to a message you sent you are probably getting one copy from them and one from the list. No, it's not that. I'm talking about just regular questions that are send only to the list. Hours later I will receive another copy of the message for some reason. Maybe it's my ISP. [snip] You should be able to tell by looking at the headers - if they have the same message-ID, they've been duplicated somewhere; if they are different, maybe they originate by a reply to all - in that case the message date should be identical. If the sender's date is defferent, then go ahead and jump on them ;-) You me also get some clue by parsing the Received headers. MTAs usually add something like received for, which corresponds to the SMTP envelope RCPT address, not to the message's MIME To or Cc entries. -- O Ernest E. Vogelsinger (\) ICQ #13394035 ^ http://www.vogelsinger.at/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Multiple Emails
Hi John, Same thing here, sometimes i think havent i read this before??.. Best regards, Davy Obdam 1LT John W. Holmes wrote: Is anyone else getting multiple emails from this list? I'm about to jump on people for asking the same question 3 or 4 times, but maybe it's just me getting copies of the same message. ---John Holmes... -- Davy Obdam - Obdam webdesign© mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.davyobdam.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Multiple Emails
John, et al -- ...and then 1LT John W. Holmes said... % % Is anyone else getting multiple emails from this list? I'm about to jump on % people for asking the same question 3 or 4 times, but maybe it's just me % getting copies of the same message. Check the Message-ID: to see if it's really the same; occasionally it is. Check the message length to see if it's the same as a previous one but freshly injected; often it is. Check the sender to see if it's the same message from two different accounts; sometimes it is. % % ---John Holmes... HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg94867/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [PHP] Multiple emails
The general concencus is that when you have to send one email to a whole lotta people, it's best to use a mail list handler like egroups, listgroup, major domo, etc. It's just more reliable and you can spend time on developing your code, not your emailing system. I never do that, but I figure I should reccommend it anyway ;) Now, if you're using Bcc or multiple functions the only spam blocker is from your system's sendmail. Some people set sendmail so that if a single user is sending a very large number of emails, some of the emails might get trashed because the system thinks the person is a spammer. This only happens with some webhosts and most of them don't do it, and not much you can do if they do it other than leave or use a mail list service, so there you have it. If I were you I'd stick about 40-50 addresses into Bcc, send it to mail, then get the next load of address and send them to mail, lather, rinse, and repeat till finished. Less of a chance for sendmail to eat an email and suddenly your whole list misses the email. The ideal way is to give the email and the addresses to some other program which will pass them to sendmail one at a time, waiting for each one to finish before sending another, but not holding up your PHP program and logging any errors to a log file. If I knew more about how sendmail worked I'd write something like that in java :) Plutarck Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 000f01c0e120$0616e260$0a00a8c0@bjorn">news:000f01c0e120$0616e260$0a00a8c0@bjorn... Hi all, I have a list of email addresses pulled from a database and I want to send out an email to all of them (they are the registered users of this particular site). For the first issue of the newsletter I expect to have about 4000 people, but that will probably go up significantly in future issues. I can do the sending email normally and extraction of addresses, but my question was really a more general one. Is there anything I should be doing different when sending to so many? Is it better to send a load of addresses altogether (in bcc for example) for each mail call? how many? or is it better to use a mail call for each address? I did a few quick speed test and mail seemed to be very fast. I guess this way would have the advantage of being able to personallise for each person. And is there a possibility that my mails would be blocked my some kind of spam filtering system? Its not I might add! Any advice and past experience would be very welcome. BTW, my system is apache on linux, php 4.0.4pl1 running on a cobalt raq. Thanks in advance Tom Carter Web Architect roundcorners ltd. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Multiple emails
Hi all, I have a list of email addresses pulled from a database and I want to send out an email to all of them (they are the registered users of this particular site). For the first issue of the newsletter I expect to have about 4000 people, but that will probably go up significantly in future issues. I can do the sending email normally and extraction of addresses, but my question was really a more general one. Is there anything I should be doing different when sending to so many? Is it better to send a load of addresses altogether (in bcc for example) for each mail call? how many? or is it better to use a mail call for each address? I did a few quick speed test and mail seemed to be very fast. I guess this way would have the advantage of being able to personallise for each person. And is there a possibility that my mails would be blocked my some kind of spam filtering system? Its not I might add! Any advice and past experience would be very welcome. BTW, my system is apache on linux, php 4.0.4pl1 running on a cobalt raq. Thanks in advance Tom Carter Web Architect roundcorners ltd. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
