Re: [PHP] php books
A good tip, thank you. The php cookbook just arrived today, and this weekend I will be doing some cooking. On 4/10/2012 4:22 PM, Govinda wrote: Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get several people chiming in talking about the website. Now the website is the bomb indeed, BUT IT'S NOT A BOUND BOOK! So that's a terrific answer to a totally different question. Kirk I did not actually read "Head First PHP& MySQL" (because I was already too deep into PHP before this book even came out), but in general I have really enjoyed learning the beginnings of my experience with various languages from the "Head First" series. That series is generally really user friendly and makes it easy to dive in to the language covered by whichever book you choose. E.g.: http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfphp/ HTH -Govinda -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php books
> Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of > opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get > several people chiming in talking about the website. Now the website is the > bomb indeed, BUT IT'S NOT A BOUND BOOK! So that's a terrific answer to a > totally different question. Kirk I did not actually read "Head First PHP & MySQL" (because I was already too deep into PHP before this book even came out), but in general I have really enjoyed learning the beginnings of my experience with various languages from the "Head First" series. That series is generally really user friendly and makes it easy to dive in to the language covered by whichever book you choose. E.g.: http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfphp/ HTH -Govinda -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php books
On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Jason Pruim wrote: > > > On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Kirk Bailey wrote: > >> Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of >> opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get >> several people chiming in talking about the website. Now the website is the >> bomb indeed, BUT IT'S NOT A BOUND BOOK! So that's a terrific answer to a >> totally different question. >> >> It's interesting really; it suggests there is a wide range of perspectives >> and mindsets about wha is the best way to come to understand php. Possibly >> this suggests something about the general mindset of the php community- wide >> ranging individualism? > > By our nature as programmers we all have very different ways to look at > things. And if we don't like the way things are being done with the current > tools we change it... We "fix it " > > That being said I've been considering a project that would take sample code > and explain why it dos what it does... Make it reviewed by the big wigs here > and possibly go as far as printing it... But definitely an ebook type thing. > > Anyone interested in helping on a project like that? And I just realized I hijacked your thread... I apologize! My brain has not started up from the weekend yet If there is interest I'll start a specific thread for it! :) *slaps his own wrist* -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php books
On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Kirk Bailey wrote: > Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of > opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get > several people chiming in talking about the website. Now the website is the > bomb indeed, BUT IT'S NOT A BOUND BOOK! So that's a terrific answer to a > totally different question. > > It's interesting really; it suggests there is a wide range of perspectives > and mindsets about wha is the best way to come to understand php. Possibly > this suggests something about the general mindset of the php community- wide > ranging individualism? By our nature as programmers we all have very different ways to look at things. And if we don't like the way things are being done with the current tools we change it... We "fix it " That being said I've been considering a project that would take sample code and explain why it dos what it does... Make it reviewed by the big wigs here and possibly go as far as printing it... But definitely an ebook type thing. Anyone interested in helping on a project like that? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php books
Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get several people chiming in talking about the website. Now the website is the bomb indeed, BUT IT'S NOT A BOUND BOOK! So that's a terrific answer to a totally different question. It's interesting really; it suggests there is a wide range of perspectives and mindsets about wha is the best way to come to understand php. Possibly this suggests something about the general mindset of the php community- wide ranging individualism? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
On Sun, August 12, 2007 8:52 pm, Jay Blanchard wrote: > Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas) > > We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome > that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We > all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems > at > this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best > of > the best. > > I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I > am > talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations > or > the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP > with > databases. > > If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing > complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.) > Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to > derive > your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me. I personally would not buy it. But I suppose it might sell as well as any of the other zillion PHP books. But you'd have a heck of a time getting even a large minority of PHP developers to agree on "best practices" for an lot of stuff... -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
At 8:06 PM -0700 8/12/07, Janet Valade wrote: Jay Blanchard wrote: If there was a best practices book would you buy it? I would buy it. But, I buy tons of books. Janet Same here. In college, if I didn't have time to read something I Xeroxed it -- now I just buy the book. :-) Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
At 8:52 PM -0500 8/12/07, Jay Blanchard wrote: Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas) We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of the best. I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with databases. If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.) Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me. Thanks Jay Jay: That might be a good subject, but I find that "best practices" is a moving target. By the time you finish the book, some of your "best practices" will be "old practices". Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 20:52 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote: > If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing > complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.) > Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive > your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me. The team that delivers the Chisimba framework (http://avoir.uwc.ac.za), has also developed our own best practices, as well as documentation standards and coding standards. These standards are pretty much in line with most of the large projects out there (I have never needed to look at Drupal, so I cannot comment there), but I am willing to bet that there isn't much of a difference. We publish our coding and doc standards, as well as a bunch of HOWTO's etc to get started, under a CC BY-SA license, so that if people would like to adopt that, or build on it, they are free to do so. I would not mind seeing at least *some* homogeneity in PHP code, across projects, but I still don't think that *all* projects need stick to the same standards - this will ultimately stifle creativity, which is what PHP is all about anyway. Just my R0.02 --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
Jay Blanchard wrote: Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas) We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of the best. I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with databases. If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.) Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me. Thanks Jay I would buy it. But, I buy tons of books. Janet -- Janet Valade -- janet.valade.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
The vast majority of my work these days is done using the Drupal CMS, which has its own coding standards and best practices and conventions that are (IMO) pretty darned good. I've adopted most of it in my non-Drupal work, too, for simplicity. So um, maybe, but I probably wouldn't jump at it as I feel I'm already using "good enough practices". On Sunday 12 August 2007, Jay Blanchard wrote: > Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas) > > We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome > that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We > all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at > this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of > the best. > > I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am > talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or > the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with > databases. > > If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing > complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.) > Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive > your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me. > > Thanks > > Jay -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 20:52 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote: > Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas) > > We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome > that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We > all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at > this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of > the best. > > I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am > talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or > the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with > databases. > > If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing > complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.) > Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive > your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me. I don't buy books on tech. I search the web and read what people post *shrug*. All the knowledge is out there for free. I'm not the type to need it all bundled up fancy schmancy. Cheers, Rob. -- ... SwarmBuy.com - http://www.swarmbuy.com Leveraging the buying power of the masses! ... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts
Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas) We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of the best. I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with databases. If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.) Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me. Thanks Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php books with more extensive LDAP and FTP explenations
Hi Does any one have a good (fairly advanced) PHP book which has detailed explanations of LDAP and FTP? I allready have two o'rielly books (Programming PHP & PHP Cookbook) and these do cover the topics briefly, but if any one has read a book with more intensive explanations, please recommend... Also, I know the php.net website gives good examples,but a book would be nice... Thanks Steve -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHp Books
Rajani Anand Iyer wrote: Can someone recommend some good books on PHP Advanced topics. http://php.net/books -- Stuart -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHp Books
Hi All, Can someone recommend some good books on PHP Advanced topics. Regards Rai - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
Re: [PHP] PHP Books
I wasn't too impressed with the PHP Bible. I haven't looked at the other two, but if the Sam's book is like the others I've used, I would say that it isn't worth it. I have O'Reilly's Programming PHP book (written in part by Rasmus Lerdorf), and it's pretty good, but I find that the online manual is the best source of information. Chris Blake wrote: Greetings learned PHP(eople), Can anyone offer comment on the following books on PHP. I`m in the early stages of PHP and am looking for a suitable guide to begin with. = Sams Teach Yourself PHP MYSQL and Apache in 24 Hours Publisher: Sams Publishing ISBN: 067232489X Publishing Date: 2003 Format: Paperback = PHP BIBLE Author: Tim Converse Publisher: WILEY ISBN: 0764549553 Pages: 875 Format: Paperback == Beginner's Guides (Osborne): PHP 4: A Beginner's Guide Author: Bill McCarty and William McCarty Publisher: MCGRAW HILL ISBN: 0072133716 Publishing Date: 2001 Pages: 544 Format: Paperback If anyone has used these manuals I would appreciate your input as I don`t wanna spend a fortune on a manual and then find out it`s [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books
Thanks for the reply...I`ll be getting the one by Luke Flemming PHP & MySQL Late nights, here we come !! On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 14:25, Chris Hewitt wrote: > Petre Agenbag wrote: > > >There is also a new book by Rasmus Lerdorf and it's cheaper than the > >book I mention, unfortunately I don't have insight into that book, and > >what would the guy that wrote PHP know about it anyway heh? ;p > > > Its "Programming PHP" by Rasmus Lerdorf and Kevin Tatroe, O'Reilly, > March 2002, ISBN: 1-56592-610-2. Its the only PHP book I have so I can't > make a comparison, but I get on well with it and can recommend it. > > I also think the manual is good. It does take some searching through to > find things until you know what there is and where to find them. I > initially only used this, until I got Rasmus's book. > > I also learnt (am still learning) a lot by simply monitoring this list. > I have been able to avoid several pitfalls because of it so I recommend > continuing to stay on it. > > HTH > Chris > -- Chris Blake Office : (011) 782-0840 Cell : 083 985 0379 Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? [ OK ] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books
Petre Agenbag wrote: There is also a new book by Rasmus Lerdorf and it's cheaper than the book I mention, unfortunately I don't have insight into that book, and what would the guy that wrote PHP know about it anyway heh? ;p Its "Programming PHP" by Rasmus Lerdorf and Kevin Tatroe, O'Reilly, March 2002, ISBN: 1-56592-610-2. Its the only PHP book I have so I can't make a comparison, but I get on well with it and can recommend it. I also think the manual is good. It does take some searching through to find things until you know what there is and where to find them. I initially only used this, until I got Rasmus's book. I also learnt (am still learning) a lot by simply monitoring this list. I have been able to avoid several pitfalls because of it so I recommend continuing to stay on it. HTH Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books
Hi Chris The first book, Teach Yourself PHP and MySQL in 24 Hrs: I got that one myself, but it tends to gather dust nowadays... It was very useful in the beginning with learning the basix syntax etc, but I quickly outgrew it, and rarely use it at all, not even for reference. I got the book called PHP and MySQL web development by Luke Welling and Laura Thompson. This is a great book, I sleep with it under my pillow and use it regularly as a reference to examples. I'd say it's basic enough to start out with, yet advanced enough to keep you interested as you grow more adept. BUT, I must admit, at this point, the single resource I use the most wrt PHP is the manual that comes with PHP, great reference to functions etc, but of course, you need to know of these functions before you can just refer to them... So, I would still suggest getting the Luke Welling et al book. There's a new edition on Amazon for $35, plus shipping of about $25. The last time I ordered, the Rand was much weaker, and the VAT was about R55, bringing my total to about R800, but it's well worth it... There is also a new book by Rasmus Lerdorf and it's cheaper than the book I mention, unfortunately I don't have insight into that book, and what would the guy that wrote PHP know about it anyway heh? ;p On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 11:45, Chris Blake wrote: > Greetings learned PHP(eople), > > Can anyone offer comment on the following books on PHP. > I`m in the early stages of PHP and am looking for a suitable guide to > begin with. > = > Sams Teach Yourself PHP MYSQL and Apache in 24 Hours > Publisher: Sams Publishing > ISBN: 067232489X > Publishing Date: 2003 > Format: Paperback > = > PHP BIBLE > Author: Tim Converse > Publisher: WILEY > ISBN: 0764549553 > Pages: 875 > Format: Paperback > == > Beginner's Guides (Osborne): PHP 4: A Beginner's Guide > Author: Bill McCarty and William McCarty > Publisher: MCGRAW HILL > ISBN: 0072133716 > Publishing Date: 2001 > Pages: 544 > Format: Paperback > > > If anyone has used these manuals I would appreciate your input as I > don`t wanna spend a fortune on a manual and then find out it`s [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Chris Blake > Office : (011) 782-0840 > Cell : 083 985 0379 > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take > effect. Reboot now? [ OK ] > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Books
Greetings learned PHP(eople), Can anyone offer comment on the following books on PHP. I`m in the early stages of PHP and am looking for a suitable guide to begin with. = Sams Teach Yourself PHP MYSQL and Apache in 24 Hours Publisher: Sams Publishing ISBN: 067232489X Publishing Date: 2003 Format: Paperback = PHP BIBLE Author: Tim Converse Publisher: WILEY ISBN: 0764549553 Pages: 875 Format: Paperback == Beginner's Guides (Osborne): PHP 4: A Beginner's Guide Author: Bill McCarty and William McCarty Publisher: MCGRAW HILL ISBN: 0072133716 Publishing Date: 2001 Pages: 544 Format: Paperback If anyone has used these manuals I would appreciate your input as I don`t wanna spend a fortune on a manual and then find out it`s [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Chris Blake Office : (011) 782-0840 Cell : 083 985 0379 Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? [ OK ] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books
As well as books there are some great PHP/MYSQL tutorials that cover all aspects that the book do in a more visual way. http://www.vtc.com - there are mysql and php tutorials there - you can view the first few tutorials online to see if that is what you are looking for. On 1/19/03 11:31 PM, "Armoured" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > > i have been told that i should email you to help me > with my question, and the auestion is: > > Can you recommend an GREAT book for someone to learn > php off. The person will only have knowladge of html. > Is there a really good book out there that will teach > me php??? > > thanks > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Books
PHP Fast & Easy Web Development by Julie Meloni kicked things off for me (after knowing only HTML) basically walks you through the code of common things that you would want to do with PHP. (email a submitted html form - insert/retrieve and edit data in mysql database) Read through the examples and picture it in your mind. Lots of it is repetition but by the end you'll understand or at lest know where to look to find answers to solutions you want http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/002-6827406-7685618?tag=opera-20&index=blended&keyword=PHP+Fast+Easy+Web+Development Julie's site: www.thickbook.com Many tutorials available here as well. PHP Bible is another good reference book. There's also a lot of sample code in here if I remeber right http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/002-6827406-7685618?tag=opera-20&index=blended&keyword=PHP+bible The manual is really invaluable as well. It's very well organized and easy to find what you need if you know how to use it. A boring but helpful activity would be to read through the summaries of the functions. You won't remember all [or any :)] of them, but you will get an idea of what is possible and how powerful the language is. Sams Teach Yourself SQL in 10 Minutes Also ought to pick yourself up this cheapy while your at it. A great intro to SQL. It's great for a reference and an idea of what is possible (and how simple the majority of what you want to do really is) You'll probably be using MySQL at some point and this will help lots to understand how the database can help you out. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/002-6827406-7685618?tag=opera-20&index=blended&keyword=Sams+Teach+Yourself+SQL+10+Minutes olinux --- Armoured <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > > i have been told that i should email you to help me > with my question, and the auestion is: > > Can you recommend an GREAT book for someone to learn > php off. The person will only have knowladge of > html. > Is there a really good book out there that will > teach > me php??? > > thanks > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Books
hello, i have been told that i should email you to help me with my question, and the auestion is: Can you recommend an GREAT book for someone to learn php off. The person will only have knowladge of html. Is there a really good book out there that will teach me php??? thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP books
Ditto on that one Adam. "PHP And MySQL Web Development" comes highly recommended. Big book lots of content. Real world working examples. Very well written. You will break the binding on this book I guarantee it. ;) -Kevin -Original Message- From: Adam Alkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP books A great book I read is PHP and MySQL Web Development, authors Luke Welling and Laura Thomson. Its an excellent book to read if you are new to PHP and MySQL, and even if you have a good knowledge. I learnt a lot from it, and still am learning. :) Adam - Original Message - From: "Mikhail Avrekh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "cyberskydive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP books > "Professional PHP Programming" by Castagnetto et al. (from Wrox) is pretty > good IMHO. So is "Web application development with PHP", by > Ratschiller/Gerken. These are the ones I've used for my purposes, as well > as for a PHP class that I taught a while back. > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, cyberskydive wrote: > > > I have 2 PHP books > > > > the first is called PHP fast & easy web development -from primatech > > > > the second is called CORE PHP PROGRAMMING by Leon Atkinson > > > > I like them both, and I was glad I read fast & easy first, i like core php > > alot, havent read the whole thing yet, been kinda referencing around it, but > > still reading the whole thing. > > > > has anyone else used these books? > > > > what are your opinions and what are some other grest books out there? > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP books
A great book I read is PHP and MySQL Web Development, authors Luke Welling and Laura Thomson. Its an excellent book to read if you are new to PHP and MySQL, and even if you have a good knowledge. I learnt a lot from it, and still am learning. :) Adam - Original Message - From: "Mikhail Avrekh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "cyberskydive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP books > "Professional PHP Programming" by Castagnetto et al. (from Wrox) is pretty > good IMHO. So is "Web application development with PHP", by > Ratschiller/Gerken. These are the ones I've used for my purposes, as well > as for a PHP class that I taught a while back. > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, cyberskydive wrote: > > > I have 2 PHP books > > > > the first is called PHP fast & easy web development -from primatech > > > > the second is called CORE PHP PROGRAMMING by Leon Atkinson > > > > I like them both, and I was glad I read fast & easy first, i like core php > > alot, havent read the whole thing yet, been kinda referencing around it, but > > still reading the whole thing. > > > > has anyone else used these books? > > > > what are your opinions and what are some other grest books out there? > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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"Professional PHP Programming" by Castagnetto et al. (from Wrox) is pretty good IMHO. So is "Web application development with PHP", by Ratschiller/Gerken. These are the ones I've used for my purposes, as well as for a PHP class that I taught a while back. On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, cyberskydive wrote: > I have 2 PHP books > > the first is called PHP fast & easy web development -from primatech > > the second is called CORE PHP PROGRAMMING by Leon Atkinson > > I like them both, and I was glad I read fast & easy first, i like core php > alot, havent read the whole thing yet, been kinda referencing around it, but > still reading the whole thing. > > has anyone else used these books? > > what are your opinions and what are some other grest books out there? > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 12:12 PM, cyberskydive wrote: > what are your opinions and what are some other grest books out there? grest -- is that like "great" and "best" ? ;) I think that Visual QuickPro PHP Advanced, which just came out a month or two ago, is pretty good. I learned a lot of techniques like using templates and PHP's object oriented features, and some non-introductory coverage of things like databases and security. However, the book is more like a rough guide than an in-depth tutorial, so you really need to already know PHP to use it (which is why I liked it -- short and sweet). I'd recommend it to someone who knows PHP basics but might want to know how shopping carts are written, or how to use OO or some security and database advice. There's a chapter on XML too, but the XML stuff in PHP changes at times so I wouldn't rely on it. Rasmus Lerdorf wrote a book on PHP for O'Reilly, it apparently just came out a few days ago although I haven't read it. I believe it covers many advanced topics as well (not just a tutorial). Erik Erik Price Web Developer Temp Media Lab, H.H. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I have 2 PHP books the first is called PHP fast & easy web development -from primatech the second is called CORE PHP PROGRAMMING by Leon Atkinson I like them both, and I was glad I read fast & easy first, i like core php alot, havent read the whole thing yet, been kinda referencing around it, but still reading the whole thing. has anyone else used these books? what are your opinions and what are some other grest books out there? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hallo Bernie, Ek het begin met 'Teach yourself PHP in 24 hours' en to later 'PHP Developer's Cookbook' aangeskaf van Sterling Hughes. Eg. help met die basiese en lg. het meer gevorderde 'resepte' in. Dit het goeie resensies gekry en ek geniet dit. Groetnis Rudolf Visagie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bernie Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 July 2001 03:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP Books Hi, I know this may be a previously discussed topic, but I want to be sure I get the right books. I need a good book on intermediate PHP programming. I am looking to buy PHP 4 Bible, but is that the best I can get? I looked through the list on the PHP website, but it does not rate the books so I don't know which is best to start off with. Untill now I have used the manual, but I need more everyday examples. Tx Bernie -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Roger Ramirez wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Bernie Kruger wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I know this may be a previously discussed topic, but I want to be sure I get > > the right books. I need a good book on intermediate PHP programming. I am > > looking to buy PHP 4 Bible, but is that the best I can get? > > > > I looked through the list on the PHP website, but it does not rate the books > > so I don't know which is best to start off with. Untill now I have used the > > manual, but I need more everyday examples. > > I like Professional PHP Programming from WROX press. I've never read > through the PHP4 Bible but I usually hear good things about the bible > series books. I have both of these i have to say that the php bible tends to explain things a bit better and in more detail (mostly) than pro php but pro php has more examples/full applications and stuff. > > > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I strongly suggest this book. I bought it about a month or two ago and learned PHP with it. it is an EXCELLENT book. Jeff www.hyrum.net www.xnull.com > If database work is anywhere in your future, though, try "PHP and MySQL Web > Development" by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson. It is an EXCELLENT > reference on both PHP and MySQL, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I second the recommendation of the WROX Professional PHP Programming book. If database work is anywhere in your future, though, try "PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson. It is an EXCELLENT reference on both PHP and MySQL, and although I own several PHP books, I find myself referring to that book for almost everything. (I think one of the authors, Luke Welling, is on this list, but I'm not sure.) Kenn Murrah Baker GRFX 214-630-1700 -Original Message- From: Roger Ramirez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:01 AM To: Bernie Kruger Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Books On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Bernie Kruger wrote: > Hi, > > I know this may be a previously discussed topic, but I want to be sure I get > the right books. I need a good book on intermediate PHP programming. I am > looking to buy PHP 4 Bible, but is that the best I can get? > > I looked through the list on the PHP website, but it does not rate the books > so I don't know which is best to start off with. Untill now I have used the > manual, but I need more everyday examples. I like Professional PHP Programming from WROX press. I've never read through the PHP4 Bible but I usually hear good things about the bible series books. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Bernie Kruger wrote: > Hi, > > I know this may be a previously discussed topic, but I want to be sure I get > the right books. I need a good book on intermediate PHP programming. I am > looking to buy PHP 4 Bible, but is that the best I can get? > > I looked through the list on the PHP website, but it does not rate the books > so I don't know which is best to start off with. Untill now I have used the > manual, but I need more everyday examples. I like Professional PHP Programming from WROX press. I've never read through the PHP4 Bible but I usually hear good things about the bible series books. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I know this may be a previously discussed topic, but I want to be sure I get the right books. I need a good book on intermediate PHP programming. I am looking to buy PHP 4 Bible, but is that the best I can get? I looked through the list on the PHP website, but it does not rate the books so I don't know which is best to start off with. Untill now I have used the manual, but I need more everyday examples. Tx Bernie -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 07:58:55AM +0800, Daniel wrote: > I'm just starting PHP and am looking for some books that you'd all > recommend. I've used quite a few of the SAMS books before and have found > them to be really good, i also have access to The PHP Dictionary which i've > also found to be really good. But are there any books which you would > recommend?? I could recommend everything in the books page at the pht.net (www.php.net/books.php) books page. I havent read the new book by Luke Welling, but there are others. If you find nothing, so read the PHP manual. -Egon -- LinuxTag, Stuttgart, Germany: July 5-8 2001: http://www.linuxtag.de/ All known books about PHP and related books: http://php.net/books.php Concert Band of the University of Hohenheim: http://www.concert-band.de/ First and second bestselling book in German: http://www.php-buch.de/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.wrox.com/ I really found Beginning PHP from Wrox very helpful, had a hard time stopping reading it! Great useful "real life" examples! Lars -Original Message- From: Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 May 2001 00:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP Books Hi, I'm just starting PHP and am looking for some books that you'd all recommend. I've used quite a few of the SAMS books before and have found them to be really good, i also have access to The PHP Dictionary which i've also found to be really good. But are there any books which you would recommend?? Thanks in advance Daniel -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I'm just starting PHP and am looking for some books that you'd all recommend. I've used quite a few of the SAMS books before and have found them to be really good, i also have access to The PHP Dictionary which i've also found to be really good. But are there any books which you would recommend?? Thanks in advance Daniel -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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PHP4 - written by Chris Ullman (and some others. It has 5 pictures on the front...) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Here are some recommendations: http://www.webdesigns1.com/php/books.php Jeff Oien > Hello > Could I get a recommendation on some good starting PHP books? > Thanks > > -- > Later Days:) > Michael Clesceri > > ""Perfection (in design) is achieved not when there is nothing > more to add, but rather when there is nothing more to take away." > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Could I get a recommendation on some good starting PHP books? Thanks -- Later Days:) Michael Clesceri ""Perfection (in design) is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but rather when there is nothing more to take away."