Re: [PHP] IE Issues
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 00:03, Curt Zirzow wrote: [snip] And it *was* a hack in the early HTML specifications, the new specifications discourge its use. Didn't you say you installed a speling chekker? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Only that in you which is me can hear what I'm saying. -- Baba Ram Dass */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE Issues
* Thus wrote Jason Wong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Wednesday 23 July 2003 00:03, Curt Zirzow wrote: [snip] And it *was* a hack in the early HTML specifications, the new specifications discourge its use. Didn't you say you installed a speling chekker? hehe.. yea, but in order for the spell checker to work I actually have to use it :) Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Curt Zirzow wrote: Dont use the font tag.. they are evil... and besides depricated. And they're deprecated too. :) Steve -- Steve Magruder Consulting - http://consulting.stevemagruder.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE Issues
Why is the font tag evil and depreciated ??? confused pete Steve Magruder wrote: Curt Zirzow wrote: Dont use the font tag.. they are evil... and besides depricated. And they're deprecated too. :) Steve -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi Pete, Why is the font tag evil and depreciated ??? confused pete Because it is a presentational element and HTML is headed to structural content instead of visual formating. Structure is for HTML, presentation is for CSS. regards, Nelson Rodriguez-Pena A. Diseno y Desarrollo Web y Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE Issues
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Why is the font tag evil and depreciated ???
[/snip]
This topic is better suited to an HTML or web-dev list, but the bottom
line here is that CSS has been put into use as further effort to
seperate design from content. The CSS recommedation being in place
deprecates a lot of the old in-line style attributes, it is more robust.
As far as evil? It is because M$ introduced the tag as part of the
browser wars...which is still going on.
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Re: [PHP] IE Issues
so which tag should i use .. div span ??? tia pete Nelson rodriguez-Pena wrote: Hi Pete, Why is the font tag evil and depreciated ??? confused pete Because it is a presentational element and HTML is headed to structural content instead of visual formating. Structure is for HTML, presentation is for CSS. regards, Nelson Rodriguez-Pena A. Diseno y Desarrollo Web y Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE Issues
* Thus wrote Steve Magruder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Curt Zirzow wrote: Dont use the font tag.. they are evil... and besides depricated. And they're deprecated too. :) I installed my spellchecker after this email :) Thanks, Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE Issues
* Thus wrote Nelson Rodriguez-Pena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi Pete, Why is the font tag evil and depreciated ??? confused pete Because it is a presentational element and HTML is headed to structural content instead of visual formating. Structure is for HTML, presentation is for CSS. And it *was* a hack in the early HTML specifications, the new specifications discourge its use. Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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* Thus wrote Pete Morganic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): so which tag should i use .. div span ??? Yes, you can use the div and span tags. I would suggest using CSS so you can define a class for an item and use it where necessary. For example: p class=myclassText/p td class=myclassMore Text/p body class=myclass Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE Issues
Pete Morganic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:39 AM said:
so which tag should i use .. div span ???
You should use proper mark up is what you should use. Or I think some
people call it the semantic web. Not exactly sure. But here is an
example.
You might normally have:
font size=1 face=verdanaHi this is bmy/b text/font
Instead you should have this:
pHi this is strongmy/strong text/p
You will also need a CSS file to define how the p tag should look.
p {
font-family: verdana;
size: 100%;
}
rule of thumbIf you need something special that is not a block element
use span. If you need to group sections together use div./rule of
thumb
hthaihinw*,
chris.
* hope that helps and i hope i'm not wrong
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Re: [PHP] IE Issues
Thank you so much! I now have to wonder how it got set to that. Probably my brothers or that power surge a while back. Anyway, thanks again! Thank you, Stephen Craton Senior Executive Web Developer Mophus.com, Inc. Lead Programmer/Webmaster WiredPHP (http://php.melchior.us) - Original Message - From: Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] IE Issues Stephen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, July 21, 2003 11:11 AM said: If I make a webpage that has font size=1 then IE will display the font at size 3 or 4. I have no idea why either. I have put a default style sheet on IE to make all the fonts a certain size but this is getting annoying since only some are getting resized. Is your text scaled? That's the only reason I think of. View Text Size Medium (default) You might be on Larger or Largest. c. p.s. FIRST POST!! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] IE Issues
Ctrl-MouseWheel will increase or decrease the text size in an IE browser window. I've found that I've accidentally increased the font size since I use the Mouse Wheel quite a bit. (As well as CTRL-W to close an IE window if one pops up) Jaime Bozza -Original Message- From: Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:21 PM To: Chris W. Parker Cc: PHP List Subject: Re: [PHP] IE Issues Thank you so much! I now have to wonder how it got set to that. Probably my brothers or that power surge a while back. Anyway, thanks again! Thank you, Stephen Craton Senior Executive Web Developer Mophus.com, Inc. Lead Programmer/Webmaster WiredPHP (http://php.melchior.us) - Original Message - From: Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] IE Issues Stephen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, July 21, 2003 11:11 AM said: If I make a webpage that has font size=1 then IE will display the font at size 3 or 4. I have no idea why either. I have put a default style sheet on IE to make all the fonts a certain size but this is getting annoying since only some are getting resized. Is your text scaled? That's the only reason I think of. View Text Size Medium (default) You might be on Larger or Largest. c. p.s. FIRST POST!! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hmm, yeah, you're probably right. I probably did push CTRL+MouseWheel since I use it a lot and CTRL+C. Thanks for the info. The power surge did do a lot of funky stuff to my files. I found bits of messed up code here and there and my date was set to 2069. Thank goodness for System Restore. ^_^ Thanks again! Thank you, Stephen Craton Senior Executive Web Developer Mophus.com, Inc. Lead Programmer/Webmaster WiredPHP (http://php.melchior.us) - Original Message - From: Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] IE Issues Stephen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, July 21, 2003 11:21 AM said: Thank you so much! I now have to wonder how it got set to that. Probably my brothers or that power surge a while back. Anyway, thanks again! Maybe it was your brothers but definitely not a power surge. If a power surge were to interfere with your computer in a negative way it wouldn't change the size of your font in IE. Do you have a scroll wheel on your mouse? Is it possible you pressed Ctrl-Scroll up/down at the same time at any point? Probably. That's the most likely situation. It's really a handy tool, try it out. c. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] IE Issues
* Thus wrote Stephen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, This is a little off topic but I do need some help. I have had IE 6 for about a month now (just got a new computer in June and have been using IE6 since). When I first started running it, it was fine. A few weeks ago, though, all my fonts have greatly increased and I have done nothing that would cause this. If I make a webpage that has font size=1 then IE will display the font Dont use the font tag.. they are evil... and besides depricated. Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
