RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server
side
PHP, is to use Javascript, it doesn't seem any more off-topic than
dealing
with database questions about MySQL.
[/snip]

Actually the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server
side PHP is http requests, JavaScript is a little more off topic. Just
picking nits, but we all know that I am an arse! ;) And many MySQL (or
plain old SQL) questions get flamed too.

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
I'm using at the time has demanded.

I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
condescending lists I've ever been on. 
[/snip]

Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s). 

Actually I would have to say that when it comes to lists (I myself and
many others here are on several) that this one and perhaps the MySQL
general list get more OT posts. Since PHP can be a entry point for first
time programmers it also ramps up the number of posts where the user has
not been familiarized with terms and actions such as RTFM, STFW or STFA.
Common and well established list courtesies established years ago are
expected to be suspended herewhy? 

Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and
condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere else,
which we have been asked to do several times. I was just here to learn
and to help where I could.

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Alex Hogan
 Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).

Point taken...

 Common and well established list courtesies established years 
 ago are expected to be suspended herewhy? 

Nope and that's wasn't my point.  My point was temperance.

 Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and 
 condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere 
 else, which we have been asked to do several times. I was 
 just here to learn and to help where I could.

And I will be the first to admit that you have been one of the people on
this list that has answered every one of my questions, no matter how
stupid they have been. (And there has been some real boners)

However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
they have been hacking code for a while?

This is a general list.


alex hogan
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread raditha dissanayake
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
I'm using at the time has demanded.
I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
condescending lists I've ever been on. 
[/snip]


Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and
condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere else,
which we have been asked to do several times. I was just here to learn
and to help where I could.
 

If all those who are curt and Curt and condensceding go away there will 
be a lot of questions but very few answers in this list.


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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread John Nichel
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:39, Jay Blanchard offered up the following 
tid-bit of information :
 [snip]
 I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
 I'm using at the time has demanded.

 I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
 condescending lists I've ever been on.
 [/snip]

 Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).

Or the qmail listsor usenet.

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread John Nichel
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following tid-bit 
of information :
 However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
 aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
 programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
 don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
 they have been hacking code for a while?

 This is a general list.

And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie 
Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how to 
find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use that 
advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's been 
asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help those who 
are not going to help themselves?

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Josh Close
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:30:20 -0400, John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following tid-bit
 of information :
  However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
  aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
  programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
  don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
  they have been hacking code for a while?
 
  This is a general list.
 
 And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie
 Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how to
 find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use that
 advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's been
 asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help those who
 are not going to help themselves?

Well, you shouldn't. But you did take the time to flame on and on and
on and on (not you specifically).

 
 
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread John Nichel
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 15:38, Josh Close offered up the following tid-bit 
of information :
 On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:30:20 -0400, John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following
  tid-bit
 
  of information :
   However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
   aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
   programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that
   they don't get the same consideration that those get who it is
   apparent that they have been hacking code for a while?
  
   This is a general list.
 
  And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie
  Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how
  to find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use
  that advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's
  been asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help
  those who are not going to help themselves?

 Well, you shouldn't. But you did take the time to flame on and on and
 on and on (not you specifically).

Oh, I like being knee deep in the fray.  We practice tough love on this 
list.  ;)

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Ed Lazor
The person starting this thread has been flogged.  The flogger has been
flogged.  The flogging floggers flogger has been flogged.

And now, back to the further adventures of PHP...


Hint:  please kill lame thread



 -Original Message-
 From: John Nichel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT
 
 On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following tid-
 bit
 of information :
  However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
  aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
  programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
  don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
  they have been hacking code for a while?
 
  This is a general list.
 
 And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie
 Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how to
 find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use that
 advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's been
 asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help those who
 are not going to help themselves?
 
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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
... flame on and on and on and on ...
[/snip]

It must be the heat :)

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Alex Hogan:
  Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).
 
 Point taken...
 
  Common and well established list courtesies established years 
  ago are expected to be suspended herewhy? 
 
 Nope and that's wasn't my point.  My point was temperance.
 
  Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and 
  condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere 
  else, which we have been asked to do several times. I was 
  just here to learn and to help where I could.
 
 And I will be the first to admit that you have been one of the people on
 this list that has answered every one of my questions, no matter how
 stupid they have been. (And there has been some real boners)

Perhaps we need a:

Subject: [Elite Guide] for the seasoned php poster.

Post everyweek :)

Curt
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Jim Grill
Was just wondering... Can you compile php with javascript support on a Game
Boy? lol

Is it ok to just filter out this subject to deleted items now???

Jim Grill


- Original Message - 
From: Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT


 * Thus wrote Alex Hogan:
   Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).
 
  Point taken...
 
   Common and well established list courtesies established years
   ago are expected to be suspended herewhy?
 
  Nope and that's wasn't my point.  My point was temperance.
 
   Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and
   condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere
   else, which we have been asked to do several times. I was
   just here to learn and to help where I could.
 
  And I will be the first to admit that you have been one of the people on
  this list that has answered every one of my questions, no matter how
  stupid they have been. (And there has been some real boners)

 Perhaps we need a:

 Subject: [Elite Guide] for the seasoned php poster.

 Post everyweek :)

 Curt
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 First, let me assure you that this is not one of those shady pyramid
schemes
 you've been hearing about.  No, sir.  Our model is the trapezoid!

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Alex Hogan
[snip]
Perhaps we need a:

Subject: [Elite Guide] for the seasoned php poster.

Post everyweek :)

Curt
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First, let me assure you that this is not one of those shady pyramid schemes
you've been hearing about.  No, sir.  Our model is the trapezoid!
[/snip]
 
I don't care who you are that's funny right there - ;-)
 
 
alex

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

2004-08-03 Thread Ed Lazor
 -Original Message-
 Was just wondering... Can you compile php with javascript support on a
 Game Boy? Lol

Nope, javascript is client-side and not part of PHP :P

-Ed

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