Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-19 Thread Dennis Gearon
I think that having the list settings set up to email everybody who is on single 
emails using the email address of the person writing this list is - WRONG. Most lists 
I am on don't do that.
quote 
Justin Patrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:32:15 +0100, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jason Wong wrote:

 Are you saying that you sent some message to this list and got back a message
 asking you to click on a link to confirm that you're not a spammer? If so
 then I misunderstood your problem. I originally thought that you got this as
 a result of trying to subscribe to the list so I tried subscribing just now
 and got the usual *reply* to confirm message.

Like Justin, I got an email in response to a previous post that
indicated that php.general is now protected by SpamCease and requested I
confirmed who I was if I wanted to continue posting.

 All I can say is !stop sending spam! If it happens every time and you're
 positive there's nothing in the contents of your mail that suggests spam then
 try sending your mail through a different mailserver.

Being a moderator on several lists and running several remote websites,
changing my mail facilities is not practical. The problem has been fixed
by running crappy IE to confirm the various emails and then striping it
off again - something which I have no wish to do again !

As I said, I could see it in FireFox just fine

So *IS* php.general now being routed through SpamCease, or is something
else going on - anybody?

No no, php-general isn't geing run through this service. One of the
subscribers is using it, so when an e-mail goes to them through the
list it wants you to confirm that you're not a spammer.
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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
Justin Patrin wrote:
So *IS* php.general now being routed through SpamCease, or is something
else going on - anybody?
No no, php-general isn't geing run through this service. One of the
subscribers is using it, so when an e-mail goes to them through the
list it wants you to confirm that you're not a spammer.
That is what I thought - but without confirmation .
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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
Dennis Gearon wrote:
I think that having the list settings set up to email everybody who is 
on single emails using the email address of the person writing this list 
is - WRONG. Most lists I am on don't do that.
Don't go there ;)
Which ever way a list is set up is right - as far as the owners of the 
list :)
Trying to get things changed just results in a new unending thread.

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-19 Thread Justin Patrin
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:33:25 +0100, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dennis Gearon wrote:
 
  I think that having the list settings set up to email everybody who is
  on single emails using the email address of the person writing this list
  is - WRONG. Most lists I am on don't do that.
 
 Don't go there ;)
 Which ever way a list is set up is right - as far as the owners of the
 list :)
 Trying to get things changed just results in a new unending thread.
 

May I say again that the list is absolutely not set up this way. This
is something that *one* subscriber has set up in order to cut down on
the spam from *all* sources, not just this list. If you're going to
complain, complain to that user (although I see no reason to).

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RE: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-19 Thread bruce
actually...

this might be a little more than a single user, using some form of anti spam
app... this might be whoever is behind the sapmcease app to snatch valid
emails... i've received the same spamcease email from a few different
responses this morning. one of which supposedly came from the mysql list.
i'm pretty certain the mysql email list isn't using spamcease!! (but i
could be wrong)..

-bruce


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From: Justin Patrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 7:47 AM
To: Lester Caine
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'


On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:33:25 +0100, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dennis Gearon wrote:

  I think that having the list settings set up to email everybody who is
  on single emails using the email address of the person writing this list
  is - WRONG. Most lists I am on don't do that.

 Don't go there ;)
 Which ever way a list is set up is right - as far as the owners of the
 list :)
 Trying to get things changed just results in a new unending thread.


May I say again that the list is absolutely not set up this way. This
is something that *one* subscriber has set up in order to cut down on
the spam from *all* sources, not just this list. If you're going to
complain, complain to that user (although I see no reason to).

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-18 Thread Jason Wong
On Sunday 18 July 2004 19:13, Lester Caine wrote:
 I have just had a message asking me to verify my eMail for this list.
 On clicking on the link it asks me to copy the numbers from the image
 into the text box, but the image is just a blank cyan grid.
 Can anybody responsible for starting this shead any light?

It's displayed in 'invisible' ink. Try viewing using ultraviolet light.

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-18 Thread Lester Caine
Jason Wong wrote:
On Sunday 18 July 2004 19:13, Lester Caine wrote:
I have just had a message asking me to verify my eMail for this list.
On clicking on the link it asks me to copy the numbers from the image
into the text box, but the image is just a blank cyan grid.
Can anybody responsible for starting this shead any light?
It's displayed in 'invisible' ink. Try viewing using ultraviolet light.
Any idea what frequency light I need ;)
Had TWO more requests now with exactly the same problem. Is anybody else 
having the same trouble with this ?

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-18 Thread Jason Wong
On Monday 19 July 2004 01:58, Lester Caine wrote:
 Jason Wong wrote:
  On Sunday 18 July 2004 19:13, Lester Caine wrote:
 I have just had a message asking me to verify my eMail for this list.
 On clicking on the link it asks me to copy the numbers from the image
 into the text box, but the image is just a blank cyan grid.
 Can anybody responsible for starting this shead any light?

Are you saying that you sent some message to this list and got back a message 
asking you to click on a link to confirm that you're not a spammer? If so 
then I misunderstood your problem. I originally thought that you got this as 
a result of trying to subscribe to the list so I tried subscribing just now 
and got the usual *reply* to confirm message.

All I can say is !stop sending spam! If it happens every time and you're 
positive there's nothing in the contents of your mail that suggests spam then 
try sending your mail through a different mailserver.

  It's displayed in 'invisible' ink. Try viewing using ultraviolet light.

 Any idea what frequency light I need ;)

You should use the lastest models which have auto frequency calibration.

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-18 Thread Justin Patrin
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:13:14 +0100, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have just had a message asking me to verify my eMail for this list.
 On clicking on the link it asks me to copy the numbers from the image
 into the text box, but the image is just a blank cyan grid.
 Can anybody responsible for starting this shead any light?
 

I got the same mail and the image worked fine in Firefox for me.
Perhaps you should try a different browser? If that doesn't help, try
turning off your firewall if you have one.

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-18 Thread Lester Caine
Justin Patrin wrote:
I have just had a message asking me to verify my eMail for this list.
On clicking on the link it asks me to copy the numbers from the image
into the text box, but the image is just a blank cyan grid.
Can anybody responsible for starting this shead any light?
I got the same mail and the image worked fine in Firefox for me.
Perhaps you should try a different browser? If that doesn't help, try
turning off your firewall if you have one.
I run the latest Mozilla, and the 'firewall' is my ADSL router so I 
can't change that.
Since you are not seeing a problem with Firefox there is obviously 
something else wrong which I can see no mention of on the SpamCease site.
I've asked the question direct to them, but obviously we have another 
chicken/egg situation, and they will not bother to read my eMail until I 
'confirm' the very page I am having trouble with ;)
I have re-enabled IE, copied the number(s) and killed IE again, but THAT 
is not something that should need to be done when using the latest 
version of Mozilla ?

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-18 Thread Lester Caine
Jason Wong wrote:
Are you saying that you sent some message to this list and got back a message 
asking you to click on a link to confirm that you're not a spammer? If so 
then I misunderstood your problem. I originally thought that you got this as 
a result of trying to subscribe to the list so I tried subscribing just now 
and got the usual *reply* to confirm message.
Like Justin, I got an email in response to a previous post that 
indicated that php.general is now protected by SpamCease and requested I 
confirmed who I was if I wanted to continue posting.

All I can say is !stop sending spam! If it happens every time and you're 
positive there's nothing in the contents of your mail that suggests spam then 
try sending your mail through a different mailserver.
Being a moderator on several lists and running several remote websites, 
changing my mail facilities is not practical. The problem has been fixed 
by running crappy IE to confirm the various emails and then striping it 
off again - something which I have no wish to do again !

So *IS* php.general now being routed through SpamCease, or is something 
else going on - anybody?

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Re: [PHP] SpanCease 'crap'

2004-07-18 Thread Justin Patrin
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:32:15 +0100, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jason Wong wrote:
 
  Are you saying that you sent some message to this list and got back a message
  asking you to click on a link to confirm that you're not a spammer? If so
  then I misunderstood your problem. I originally thought that you got this as
  a result of trying to subscribe to the list so I tried subscribing just now
  and got the usual *reply* to confirm message.
 
 Like Justin, I got an email in response to a previous post that
 indicated that php.general is now protected by SpamCease and requested I
 confirmed who I was if I wanted to continue posting.
 
  All I can say is !stop sending spam! If it happens every time and you're
  positive there's nothing in the contents of your mail that suggests spam then
  try sending your mail through a different mailserver.
 
 Being a moderator on several lists and running several remote websites,
 changing my mail facilities is not practical. The problem has been fixed
 by running crappy IE to confirm the various emails and then striping it
 off again - something which I have no wish to do again !

As I said, I could see it in FireFox just fine

 
 So *IS* php.general now being routed through SpamCease, or is something
 else going on - anybody?
 

No no, php-general isn't geing run through this service. One of the
subscribers is using it, so when an e-mail goes to them through the
list it wants you to confirm that you're not a spammer.

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