Re: Two questions

2016-05-08 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 12:08:42AM +0200, andr...@itship.ch wrote:
> 2. I don't know of anyone running pil on this vocore device or even
> under OpenWRT distro, so you might have to try out yourself. Post your
> experiences with it here and/or on the wiki for other users. :-)

I do run PicoLisp on an OpenWRT router, but I haven't updated the
OpenWRT pil packages in a while. However, it should be relatively easy
to apply the patches to new versions of PicoLisp:

http://aleph0.info/jp/software/lisp-forth-openwrt/

J.

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RE: Two questions

2016-05-08 Thread andreas
1. sudo apt-get install picolisp; pil -> (version) -> see for yourself

The version in the distribution package repositories are usually (naturally) a 
bit outdated.
To compile your own picolisp version during hand-install you require a usable 
picolisp version already installed (or java runtime as last resort), so you 
want to apt-get install picolisp anyway.

As changes in releases are usually tiny and almost never (just almost, but hey) 
breaking existing functionality/usage, even an a bit older version of picolisp 
is sufficient.
The introduction page of the new website is obviously directed at picolisp 
beginners, so this should be alright.

JUST DO IT dude, you are pondering too much...

2. I don't know of anyone running pil on this vocore device or even under 
OpenWRT distro, so you might have to try out yourself. Post your experiences 
with it here and/or on the wiki for other users. :-)

Picolisp is tiny both in storage size and memory footprint, so it does great on 
these tiny computers and is in fact used for embedded computing by a number of 
people.


- Original Message -
From: Lawrence Bottorff [mailto:borg...@gmail.com]
To: picolisp@software-lab.de
Sent: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:44:48 -0400
Subject: Two questions

1. The new spiffy (flotte?) Website says just go ahead, Ubuntu users, and
do an apt-get install picolisp. Good, but is that a nice, recent version --
or would it be better to hand-install?

2. Does picolisp run on this little guy: http://vocore.io/ . . . In
general, what's picolisp's track record on all these tiny computers?

LB




Re: Two questions

2016-05-08 Thread O.Hamann

Hey Lawrence,

if you are new to picolisp and want to get an impression of how it works 
an try some of the examples, I think "sudo apt-get install picolisp" is 
the perfect way to reach "picoLand" and start exploring it's 
beautifulness immediately.


If you then feel the need of the things, that changed since the (3.1.5 
?) release, that your ubuntu offers you, it's rather easy to install 
additional picolisp-releases side by side (no need for su permissions 
for these local userspace installs, as far as I know).


No need to bother long time which would be the best way - just tap sudo 
apt-get install und look around :-)

Decide later, which release to work with.


Answers to the second question might be found in the maillist archive, 
as there were questions concerning special hardware before.


Picolisp offers a number of flavors out-of-the-box (mini-picolisp, 
ersatz, 32bit, 64bit, (?) , pilOS)

which are different in the way of system ressources they need,
the way they are written in (some in C, 64bit in Assembler, ersatz in Java),
and the features the specific flavor offers
(- but I'm just reading that, I do not know anything real about that -)
so that I always get the impression of 'there should be one way to get 
picolisp run on my desired hardware'.


Hopefully there will be a more precise answer from the list concerning 
your question.


Wish you have much fun with picolisp,

O.



On 08.05.2016 17:44, Lawrence Bottorff wrote:
1. The new spiffy (flotte?) Website says just go ahead, Ubuntu users, 
and do an apt-get install picolisp. Good, but is that a nice, recent 
version -- or would it be better to hand-install?


2. Does picolisp run on this little guy: http://vocore.io/ . . . In 
general, what's picolisp's track record on all these tiny computers?


LB




Two questions

2016-05-08 Thread Lawrence Bottorff
1. The new spiffy (flotte?) Website says just go ahead, Ubuntu users, and
do an apt-get install picolisp. Good, but is that a nice, recent version --
or would it be better to hand-install?

2. Does picolisp run on this little guy: http://vocore.io/ . . . In
general, what's picolisp's track record on all these tiny computers?

LB