Re: Frozen Pilbox
The update did nothing, so I uninstalled then reinstalled, and, lo and behold, my main app was still there, with only two days worth of data missing. The hello app, which was installed, and the test app I was installing are nowhere to be seen. I don't understand how this is possible—I thought un/re-installing would delete everything—but I'll take it. Thanks for all your help. –Shaughan openpgp4fpr:c04203ea8983566aed3848a33e06c22a1841ba3c If I replace all the old parts in my PC with new ones, will it turn into a Greek ship? https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyaskscience/comments/4wni7d/if_i_replace_all_the_old_parts_in_my_pc_with_new/?ref=search_posts …if you're just gonna end up in Arizona, then being dead isn't that much of a downgrade. "Darlene, Mr. Robot, eps2.1k3rnel-pan1c.ksd, season 2, episode 3. "I do not pretend here to develop a theory which is _universally_ valid, but it may at least have some galactic relevance." Paul Krugman, "The theory of interstellar trade," 1978, p. 2. http://fermatslibrary.com/s/the-theory-of-interstellar-trade If war was arithmetic, mathematicians would rule the world. Littlefinger, _Game of Thrones, Season 2, Episode 4 Not everybody benefits from a misspent youth. Thomas Pynchon, _Bleeding Edge: A Novel_ (Penguin, New York, 2013) Chapter 28. Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 11:21 PM, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 10:07:12PM +, Shaughan Lavine wrote: > > > I'll most certainly wait till tomorrow and see if updating does the job
Re: Frozen Pilbox
A!ex– "termux-share test.zip" once again froze everything. "termux-share hello.zip" worked fine. I'm stumped by that, but I'm going back to what I was doing before—with better backups. –Shaughan openpgp4fpr:c04203ea8983566aed3848a33e06c22a1841ba3c If I replace all the old parts in my PC with new ones, will it turn into a Greek ship? https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyaskscience/comments/4wni7d/if_i_replace_all_the_old_parts_in_my_pc_with_new/?ref=search_posts …if you're just gonna end up in Arizona, then being dead isn't that much of a downgrade. "Darlene, Mr. Robot, eps2.1k3rnel-pan1c.ksd, season 2, episode 3. "I do not pretend here to develop a theory which is _universally_ valid, but it may at least have some galactic relevance." Paul Krugman, "The theory of interstellar trade," 1978, p. 2. http://fermatslibrary.com/s/the-theory-of-interstellar-trade If war was arithmetic, mathematicians would rule the world. Littlefinger, _Game of Thrones, Season 2, Episode 4 Not everybody benefits from a misspent youth. Thomas Pynchon, _Bleeding Edge: A Novel_ (Penguin, New York, 2013) Chapter 28. Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 11:21 PM, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 10:07:12PM +, Shaughan Lavine wrote: > > > I'll most certainly wait till tomorrow and see if updating does the job
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Hi Shaughan, > The update did nothing, so I uninstalled then reinstalled, and, lo and behold, > my main app was still there, with only two days worth of data missing. Great! I remember the opposite case. We could not get rid of old data, even over a re-install, unless we went to "Memory and Cache" in the Android settings for PilBox, and cleared memory and cache explicitly. ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
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On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 07:06:59PM +, Shaughan Lavine wrote: > "termux-share test.zip" once again froze everything. "termux-share hello.zip" > worked fine. I'm stumped by that, but I'm going back to what I was doing > before—with better backups. I'd really like to know the reason. Is the ZIP damaged? Or is it the name "test" which conflicts somehow? ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
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Yeah, I'm pretty curious too. The zip opens fine in at least one other App. I've attached it. Maybe you will see something. I used termux-share to load hello.zip and then edited that into the test app. The result works fine. –Shaughan openpgp4fpr:c04203ea8983566aed3848a33e06c22a1841ba3c If I replace all the old parts in my PC with new ones, will it turn into a Greek ship? https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyaskscience/comments/4wni7d/if_i_replace_all_the_old_parts_in_my_pc_with_new/?ref=search_posts …if you're just gonna end up in Arizona, then being dead isn't that much of a downgrade. "Darlene, Mr. Robot, eps2.1k3rnel-pan1c.ksd, season 2, episode 3. "I do not pretend here to develop a theory which is _universally_ valid, but it may at least have some galactic relevance." Paul Krugman, "The theory of interstellar trade," 1978, p. 2. http://fermatslibrary.com/s/the-theory-of-interstellar-trade If war was arithmetic, mathematicians would rule the world. Littlefinger, _Game of Thrones, Season 2, Episode 4 Not everybody benefits from a misspent youth. Thomas Pynchon, _Bleeding Edge: A Novel_ (Penguin, New York, 2013) Chapter 28. Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. On Wednesday, November 8th, 2023 at 11:20 AM, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 07:06:59PM +, Shaughan Lavine wrote: > > > "termux-share test.zip" once again froze everything. "termux-share > > hello.zip" > > worked fine. I'm stumped by that, but I'm going back to what I was doing > > before—with better backups. > > > I'd really like to know the reason. Is the ZIP damaged? Or is it the name > "test" > which conflicts somehow? > > ☺/ A!ex > > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe<>
Frozen PilBox
A!ex–
Some other weirdness:
I change test/App.l to
--
"Test"
(menu "Test!"
( "h1Style" "Test!") )
--
and add App.l
--
h1Style {
color: green;
}
and, guess what? Green, as expected.
But I edit lib.css to
--
h1Style {
color: red;
}
--
the color remains green!
The word "green" afaict appears in no other files loaded in PilBox except
App.l. I'm very confused.
–Shaughan
openpgp4fpr:c04203ea8983566aed3848a33e06c22a1841ba3c
If I replace all the old parts in my PC with new ones, will it turn into a
Greek ship?
https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyaskscience/comments/4wni7d/if_i_replace_all_the_old_parts_in_my_pc_with_new/?ref=search_posts
…if you're just gonna end up in Arizona, then being dead isn't that much of a
downgrade.
"Darlene, Mr. Robot, eps2.1k3rnel-pan1c.ksd, season 2, episode 3.
"I do not pretend here to develop a theory which is _universally_ valid, but it
may at least have some galactic relevance."
Paul Krugman, "The theory of interstellar trade," 1978, p. 2.
http://fermatslibrary.com/s/the-theory-of-interstellar-trade
If war was arithmetic, mathematicians would rule the world.
Littlefinger, _Game of Thrones, Season 2, Episode 4
Not everybody benefits from a misspent youth.
Thomas Pynchon, _Bleeding Edge: A Novel_ (Penguin, New York, 2013) Chapter 28.
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland.
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Oops! I meant to say that it only appears in (global) lib.css. –Shaughan openpgp4fpr:c04203ea8983566aed3848a33e06c22a1841ba3c If I replace all the old parts in my PC with new ones, will it turn into a Greek ship? https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyaskscience/comments/4wni7d/if_i_replace_all_the_old_parts_in_my_pc_with_new/?ref=search_posts …if you're just gonna end up in Arizona, then being dead isn't that much of a downgrade. "Darlene, Mr. Robot, eps2.1k3rnel-pan1c.ksd, season 2, episode 3. "I do not pretend here to develop a theory which is _universally_ valid, but it may at least have some galactic relevance." Paul Krugman, "The theory of interstellar trade," 1978, p. 2. http://fermatslibrary.com/s/the-theory-of-interstellar-trade If war was arithmetic, mathematicians would rule the world. Littlefinger, _Game of Thrones, Season 2, Episode 4 Not everybody benefits from a misspent youth. Thomas Pynchon, _Bleeding Edge: A Novel_ (Penguin, New York, 2013) Chapter 28. Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Frozen PilBox
The cache needs to cleared for a new style to take effect. Is that a bug? –Shaughan openpgp4fpr:c04203ea8983566aed3848a33e06c22a1841ba3c If I replace all the old parts in my PC with new ones, will it turn into a Greek ship? https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyaskscience/comments/4wni7d/if_i_replace_all_the_old_parts_in_my_pc_with_new/?ref=search_posts …if you're just gonna end up in Arizona, then being dead isn't that much of a downgrade. "Darlene, Mr. Robot, eps2.1k3rnel-pan1c.ksd, season 2, episode 3. "I do not pretend here to develop a theory which is _universally_ valid, but it may at least have some galactic relevance." Paul Krugman, "The theory of interstellar trade," 1978, p. 2. http://fermatslibrary.com/s/the-theory-of-interstellar-trade If war was arithmetic, mathematicians would rule the world. Littlefinger, _Game of Thrones, Season 2, Episode 4 Not everybody benefits from a misspent youth. Thomas Pynchon, _Bleeding Edge: A Novel_ (Penguin, New York, 2013) Chapter 28. Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Frozen Pilbox
Hi Shaughan, > Yeah, I'm pretty curious too. The zip opens fine in at least one other App. > I've attached it. Maybe you will see something. Now I understand the problem! "App.l" has three garbage bytes in the beginning; ~/tmp ~/pil21/pil + : (hd "test/App.l") EF BB BF 22 54 65 73 74 22 0A 0A 28 6D 65 6E 75 ..."Test"..(menu 0010 20 22 54 65 73 74 22 0A 20 20 20 28 3C 68 31 3E "Test". ( 0020 20 22 63 65 6E 74 65 72 20 66 68 22 20 22 54 65 "center fh" "Te 0030 73 74 21 22 29 20 29 0A st!") ). -> NIL : (bin (hex "EF")) -> "1110" : (bin (hex "BB")) -> "10111011" : (bin (hex "BF")) -> "1011" The first byte is "1110", which is the first byte of a *four* byte UTF-8 sequence. This usually not really a problem, PicoLisp just reads a garbage character. I have of course not tried to install the file, but obviously PilBox gets confused. It expects a certain structure in the first line of each "App.l" found upon startup. It skips until the *next* double quote, and 'load's possible further files. As the *first* double quote is already eaten up by that bad byte sequence, it starts from the last double quote of "Test". I will try to make this more robust. ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
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On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 02:37:12AM +, Shaughan Lavine wrote: > The cache needs to cleared for a new style to take effect. Is that a bug? No. PilBox (and PicoLisp in general) caches CSS files for 24 hours. See line 34 in @lib/http.l (`(chop "css") "text/css" 86400) ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
