Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 07:44:06AM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: > Yes, sorry, the TGZ contains only the pre-built binary and the required *.l > libraries. > > Just download the rolling release software-lab.de/picoLisp.tgz, it is (as well > as software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz) up to date. Now I uploaded a new PilBox.tgz, containing also the script 'mk.emu.arm32'. It may help to build 'emu'. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 09:59:50PM +0200, Richard Z wrote: > > If it is an ARMv7, then you must build 'emu', yes. > > my copy of PilBox.tgz has the timestamp Sep 22th 10:07 and does > not appear to have the sources of the lisp engine? Yes, sorry, the TGZ contains only the pre-built binary and the required *.l libraries. Just download the rolling release software-lab.de/picoLisp.tgz, it is (as well as software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz) up to date. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 06:46:50PM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi, > > > > Since 22th of September a pre-build Lisp env should be included. > > > > well I assume I need to compile my own since my Moto G identifies > > itself as ARM 7? > > I thought you wrote > > > I have a Moto G4+ which has a 64 bit cpu > > but maybe I mixed up the thread? that was someone else, my Moto is an even older one with an Qualcomm MSM8226 > If it is an ARMv7, then you must build 'emu', yes. my copy of PilBox.tgz has the timestamp Sep 22th 10:07 and does not appear to have the sources of the lisp engine? I could copy those from another PicoLIsp tarball but maybe more people could use it. Richard -- Name and OpenPGP keys available from pgp key servers -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi, > > Since 22th of September a pre-build Lisp env should be included. > > well I assume I need to compile my own since my Moto G identifies > itself as ARM 7? I thought you wrote > I have a Moto G4+ which has a 64 bit cpu but maybe I mixed up the thread? If it is an ARMv7, then you must build 'emu', yes. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi, > > I have an even older Moto G and was going to try various things.. now > > it seems https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz doesn't include the actual > > lisp engine sources. Which one should I take? > > Since 22th of September a pre-build Lisp env should be included. well I assume I need to compile my own since my Moto G identifies itself as ARM 7? Richard -- Name and OpenPGP keys available from pgp key servers -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi Richard, > I have an even older Moto G and was going to try various things.. now > it seems https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz doesn't include the actual > lisp engine sources. Which one should I take? Since 22th of September a pre-build Lisp env should be included. In any case, if unsure, always the current one (picoLisp.tgz goes together with PilBox.tgz). ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:44:12AM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> > Is there any chance of a version that works with 32-bit Android? I have
> > a Moto G4+ which has a 64 bit cpu (Snapdragon 617 iirc) but uses a 32
> > bit Android build, so Pilbox sees it as an ARM 7l and won't run.
>
> Strange setup. As the CPU is 64 bit, it may well run if you just remove the
> check following System.getProperty("os.arch") in PilBoxActivity.java.
>
> Otherwise, it is possible if you build bin/picolisp as 'emu'.
I have an even older Moto G and was going to try various things.. now
it seems https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz doesn't include the actual
lisp engine sources. Which one should I take?
Richard
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Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi Paul,
> Is there any chance of a version that works with 32-bit Android? I have
> a Moto G4+ which has a 64 bit cpu (Snapdragon 617 iirc) but uses a 32
> bit Android build, so Pilbox sees it as an ARM 7l and won't run.
Strange setup. As the CPU is 64 bit, it may well run if you just remove the
check following System.getProperty("os.arch") in PilBoxActivity.java.
Otherwise, it is possible if you build bin/picolisp as 'emu'.
♪♫ Alex
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Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 08:51:54AM +0200, pd wrote: > I saw a message from you talking about not including arm binaries but in > last tgz I got there's a binary include, should I remove it? I don't know what the build process at F-Droid needs and can handle, so I think it is better to leave it inside. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
It would great if Pilbox goes on F-droid. That would get it exposure to users who don't trust Google Play. Is there any chance of a version that works with 32-bit Android? I have a Moto G4+ which has a 64 bit cpu (Snapdragon 617 iirc) but uses a 32 bit Android build, so Pilbox sees it as an ARM 7l and won't run. Thanks! -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Yes, I'll try and will post here my experience in order to help with any trouble. I saw a message from you talking about not including arm binaries but in last tgz I got there's a binary include, should I remove it? On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 08:06:44AM +0200, pd wrote: > > I've created a github repository in https://github.com/pepdiz/pilbox > and I > > can keep it synchronized to PilBox.tgz versions if you want > > Yes, that would be nice! > > The next task would be to publish it ad F-Droid. I haven't studied the > requirements in detail. Not sure what is needed. Would you try that too? > > ♪♫ Alex > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe > -- Andrés *~ La mejor manera de librarse de la tentación es caer en ella**. ~ Oscar Wilde* ~
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 08:06:44AM +0200, pd wrote: > I've created a github repository in https://github.com/pepdiz/pilbox and I > can keep it synchronized to PilBox.tgz versions if you want Yes, that would be nice! The next task would be to publish it ad F-Droid. I haven't studied the requirements in detail. Not sure what is needed. Would you try that too? ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
I've created a github repository in https://github.com/pepdiz/pilbox and I can keep it synchronized to PilBox.tgz versions if you want regards On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:43:02PM +0200, Richard Z wrote: > > assuming it is OpenSource, how about submitting to f-droid.org? > > This would be a good thing. F-Droid requires a git repo, perhaps of our > maintainers likes to take care of it? It would follow the same principles > as we > have with the PicoLisp releases, i.e. importing the rolling release from > https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz > > ♪♫ Alex > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe > -- Andrés *~ La mejor manera de librarse de la tentación es caer en ella**. ~ Oscar Wilde* ~
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
I also vote +1 for submitting to f-droid. Whoever takes care of the git repo, please **do not** include the arm64 binaries as part of the repo, otherwise over time it will grow quite large (versioning) and become impossible to clone. AW On 17-09-21 11:02 AM, Alexander Burger wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:43:02PM +0200, Richard Z wrote: assuming it is OpenSource, how about submitting to f-droid.org? This would be a good thing. F-Droid requires a git repo, perhaps of our maintainers likes to take care of it? It would follow the same principles as we have with the PicoLisp releases, i.e. importing the rolling release from https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 01:02:32PM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:43:02PM +0200, Richard Z wrote: > > assuming it is OpenSource, how about submitting to f-droid.org? > > This would be a good thing. F-Droid requires a git repo, perhaps of our > maintainers likes to take care of it? It would follow the same principles as > we > have with the PicoLisp releases, i.e. importing the rolling release from > https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz The problem is perhaps that the PilBox sources have such a heterogeneous setup. Not only the normal Java-, XML, media and resource files, but also a system of symlinks and Lisp files. The release should then probably also contain the picoLisp/ directory itself (which is currently separate), including the pre-built bin/* files. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:43:02PM +0200, Richard Z wrote: > assuming it is OpenSource, how about submitting to f-droid.org? This would be a good thing. F-Droid requires a git repo, perhaps of our maintainers likes to take care of it? It would follow the same principles as we have with the PicoLisp releases, i.e. importing the rolling release from https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 02:56:44PM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> finally, an official version of PilBox is out - and a Wiki article:
>
>https://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilBox
>
>
> PilBox ("PicoLisp Box") is a generic Android App which allows to write Apps in
> pure PicoLisp, without touching Java, and without the need of an Android SDK.
>
> You can get the App (the "PilBox kernel") in Google Play store:
>
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.software_lab.pilbox
>
> or - if you prefer - download it directly from:
>
>https://software-lab.de/pilBox.apk
assuming it is OpenSource, how about submitting to f-droid.org?
Btw PicoLisp is already available as package in Termux, with full access to
busybox and a few other goodies.
Richard
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Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:16:19AM +, Alexander Williams wrote: > Also note, I had to "force stop" PilBox for the calculator to appear, > otherwise I get "Not Found" page (404?). That's right. The ZIP archive is only extracted on start of the App. I'm not sure at the moment where the "Not Found" comes from. To stop PilBox, it is best to swipe it out of the context menu. Note also that Android generally terminates the PilBox Server if idle for some time. This is normal Android policy (perhaps this had happened in your case?). If your app needs to stay active, you can insert (startForeground "MyApp" "Service active") The two strings will appear in a notification in the status bar as long as the App is running in the foreground. And, if needed, you may set a WakeLock with (wake T) The best place for these two expressions is in the 'once' part (as e.g. found in the Demo App in "demo/App.l"). ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
I'm running LineageOS 14.1 (Android 7.1) and successfully installed PilBox and the demo "calc.zip". As Olaf mentioned, PilBox does not appear in the "Share" menu, and i'm not sure why. However when I download the file from https://software-lab.de/calc.zip (Firefox), I get a notification from "Download Manager". When I press the notification, PilBox appears and calc.zip gets installed. Also note, I had to "force stop" PilBox for the calculator to appear, otherwise I get "Not Found" page (404?). Hope this helps. AW On 17-09-20 8:22 AM, O.Hamann wrote: Hello, short update: on dtek50/Android 6.01 Pilbox works as expected, I think (though I did not go through all demo buttons). Don't know, why this did not work yesterday, possibly a system update was interfering while trying Pilbox. I did not change anything, just after restart of the mobile, the Pilbox worked as expected. On sm-t719/android 7.0 I see no chance to share (german ui: 'senden') the zip file to Pilbox because Pilbox is not listed in the 'shares' (german ui: 'Freigabe') dialog box, as other Apps like Termux, TotalCommander and others do. Hopefully other users may report successfull runs of Pilbox on Android7. Or is it possible, that the Android way of handling files differs from former releases to version 7 ? By the way, nice hint of Pilbox when running on SM-T705/Android 5.0.2 :-) (which is armv7, while armv8 is required by the App) Back to the working Pilbox App: it is - like always when dealing with picolisp - again amazing how to build functional screens with such few lines of code, as shown in the .l files of demo.zip. Thank you again, Alex, for continously bringing picolisp into new areas of use. Greetings, Olaf -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi, On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:49:59AM +0200, pd wrote: > should be possible to interface with native android code? I suppose it Not "native" in the PicoLisp sense (i.e. calling the 'native' function) as there are C libraries accessible in Android. But with the Android toolbox, yes. > would be similar to interface with java in common picolisp. The goal would > be to have native app rather than web apps inside an html content Yes, it does indeed use a (slightly improved) version of the PicoLisp java interface in "@lib/java.l". It is also briefly described near the end of the article at https://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilBox. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
should be possible to interface with native android code? I suppose it would be similar to interface with java in common picolisp. The goal would be to have native app rather than web apps inside an html content On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:22 AM, O.Hamann wrote: > Hello, > > short update: > > on dtek50/Android 6.01 Pilbox works as expected, I think (though I did not > go through all demo buttons). > > Don't know, why this did not work yesterday, possibly a system update was > interfering while trying Pilbox. I did not change anything, just after > restart of the mobile, the Pilbox worked as expected. > > On sm-t719/android 7.0 I see no chance to share (german ui: 'senden') the > zip file to Pilbox because Pilbox is not listed in the 'shares' (german ui: > 'Freigabe') dialog box, as other Apps like Termux, TotalCommander and > others do. > > Hopefully other users may report successfull runs of Pilbox on Android7. > > Or is it possible, that the Android way of handling files differs from > former releases to version 7 ? > > By the way, nice hint of Pilbox when running on SM-T705/Android 5.0.2 :-) > (which is armv7, while armv8 is required by the App) > > > Back to the working Pilbox App: > > it is - like always when dealing with picolisp - again amazing how to > build functional screens with such few lines of code, as shown in the .l > files of demo.zip. > > Thank you again, Alex, for continously bringing picolisp into new areas of > use. > > > Greetings, Olaf > > > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe > -- Andrés *~ La mejor manera de librarse de la tentación es caer en ella**. ~ Oscar Wilde* ~
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hello, short update: on dtek50/Android 6.01 Pilbox works as expected, I think (though I did not go through all demo buttons). Don't know, why this did not work yesterday, possibly a system update was interfering while trying Pilbox. I did not change anything, just after restart of the mobile, the Pilbox worked as expected. On sm-t719/android 7.0 I see no chance to share (german ui: 'senden') the zip file to Pilbox because Pilbox is not listed in the 'shares' (german ui: 'Freigabe') dialog box, as other Apps like Termux, TotalCommander and others do. Hopefully other users may report successfull runs of Pilbox on Android7. Or is it possible, that the Android way of handling files differs from former releases to version 7 ? By the way, nice hint of Pilbox when running on SM-T705/Android 5.0.2 :-) (which is armv7, while armv8 is required by the App) Back to the working Pilbox App: it is - like always when dealing with picolisp - again amazing how to build functional screens with such few lines of code, as shown in the .l files of demo.zip. Thank you again, Alex, for continously bringing picolisp into new areas of use. Greetings, Olaf -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi Olaf, > But no luck so far. Hmm, too bad! For me it worked without problems in both ways (via "Downloads" as well as 'termux-share'). How is the experience of others here? > I'm using a SM-T719 tablet, which some day got the update to android 7 > (german language) and I do not have any clue how to use it beyond 'open > termux and do command line things' and 'open browser and do web view things' > :-) That should be enough ;) > Storage permissions, though, I granted before :-) OK > It looks like I'm not able to share (senden (??) in german) 'the downloaded > zip file' to the Pilbox app, because Pilbox App is not offered as target of > that file action. > > The dialog box Shares (german "Freigabe" is shown) offers Termux, > TotalCommander, Bluetooth, Email, Wi-Fi Direct and others, but no Pilbox. Strange. The PilBox App should register itself as a candidate for ZIP archives, due to the line in the AndroidManifest.xml file. I don't know what else I could do. > Little progress is shown on my dtek50 blackberry with android 6.0.1: > + installed apk directly from your website, > + granted storage+location permissions, > + downloaded via firefox the zip files from your website > + opened the 'Downloads' app (on bb/android 6.0.1 there is one, on > sm-t719/android 7.0 there was 'Eigene Dateien') > + tap on one of the zip entries > ==> voila: start screen of Pilbox shows the buttons to launch the > application > so this is nearer to what's expected than on the other device/android > combination Yeah > But all three tapped buttons result in a "Not Found" page - looks like this > comes from the Pilbox local app server(?). Hmm, perhaps you can take a look into the log file. There should be an error message. PilBox always keeps the current and previous log file, so you could do in REPL $ cat log or, if you meanwhile started a new PilBox session, $ cat log- > My GT-I9100 with android 4.1.2 (CyanogenMod I think) is too old to be > supported by Pilbox, I guess. Right, it needs at least 5.0 > By the way, the Settings screen of the bb/android_6 Pilbox lists the PILs as > PIL-377 PIL-378 not as PIL-calc or PIL-hello as shown in the wiki > article This is correct. The Download App does not pass the name but a number, so PilBox never sees "hello.zip". 'termux-share' does. This is the reason why I prepended "PIL-" to the names instead of simply looking for "*.zip". ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Thank you very much for that quick reply, Alex. But no luck so far. Thanks for your hints and explanations. Another install approach by downloading the apk from the softlab url finishes in the same result. I'm using a SM-T719 tablet, which some day got the update to android 7 (german language) and I do not have any clue how to use it beyond 'open termux and do command line things' and 'open browser and do web view things' :-) Storage permissions, though, I granted before :-) It looks like I'm not able to share (senden (??) in german) 'the downloaded zip file' to the Pilbox app, because Pilbox App is not offered as target of that file action. The dialog box Shares (german "Freigabe" is shown) offers Termux, TotalCommander, Bluetooth, Email, Wi-Fi Direct and others, but no Pilbox. Little progress is shown on my dtek50 blackberry with android 6.0.1: + installed apk directly from your website, + granted storage+location permissions, + downloaded via firefox the zip files from your website + opened the 'Downloads' app (on bb/android 6.0.1 there is one, on sm-t719/android 7.0 there was 'Eigene Dateien') + tap on one of the zip entries ==> voila: start screen of Pilbox shows the buttons to launch the application so this is nearer to what's expected than on the other device/android combination But all three tapped buttons result in a "Not Found" page - looks like this comes from the Pilbox local app server(?). Might have to do with blackberry android specialities???, I don't know. But it seems, that behaviour differs between android 6 and android 7 ?. My GT-I9100 with android 4.1.2 (CyanogenMod I think) is too old to be supported by Pilbox, I guess. By the way, the Settings screen of the bb/android_6 Pilbox lists the PILs as PIL-377 PIL-378 not as PIL-calc or PIL-hello as shown in the wiki article So far for the moment, I really have to quit now, no time to get involved deeper in the quest. Greetings, Olaf On 19.09.2017 10:18, Alexander Burger wrote: Hi Olaf, I'm very excited about your announcement, so I tried it out immediately :-) Great! :) Unfortunately I had no luck so far to 'pass the zip to the Pilbox kernel' - tried it out with the provided hello.zip and calc.zip. The PilBox App needs permission to access storage. Did you enable it in the App settings, as mentioned in the article (Then go to Apps -> PilBox -> Permissions and enable "Location" and "Storage")? Then it should work, if you e.g. click in a browser on the link https://software-lab.de/hello.zip and then open it (directly from the browser, or by clicking on it in the "Downloads" App). In the wiki there is written ===X When the PilBox kernel starts, it scans all top-level directories for other files named "App.l". ==X=== What is ment by 'all top-level directories'? All directories directly visible in the current working directory. This is the one you see if you enter "$ ls -l" in the REPL. When the above passing of 'hello.zip' worked, you would see a new directory 'hello/', and inside that 'hello/App.l'. "Top-level" means that a file 'hello/foo/App.l' would *not* be considered, only files 'App.l' one level below the working directory. I tried the termux-share example and tried a download via Fireforx in default Downloads directory, but without success. After installing the Termux App, you need to call 'termux-setup-storage' one time. It creates a directory tree with symbolic links to globally accessible disk areas. In my case this resulted in total 72K lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 24 May 28 10:04 dcim -> /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 28 May 28 10:04 downloads -> /storage/emulated/0/Download/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 26 May 28 10:04 movies -> /storage/emulated/0/Movies/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 25 May 28 10:04 music -> /storage/emulated/0/Music/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 28 May 28 10:04 pictures -> /storage/emulated/0/Pictures/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 19 May 28 10:04 shared -> /storage/emulated/0/ So I can do things like $ cp hello.zip ~/storage/downloads/ $ termux-share ~/storage/downloads/hello.zip I hope this works for you :) ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi Olaf, > I'm very excited about your announcement, so I tried it out immediately :-) Great! :) > Unfortunately I had no luck so far to 'pass the zip to the Pilbox kernel' - > tried it out with the provided hello.zip and calc.zip. The PilBox App needs permission to access storage. Did you enable it in the App settings, as mentioned in the article (Then go to Apps -> PilBox -> Permissions and enable "Location" and "Storage")? Then it should work, if you e.g. click in a browser on the link https://software-lab.de/hello.zip and then open it (directly from the browser, or by clicking on it in the "Downloads" App). > In the wiki there is written > ===X > When the PilBox kernel starts, it scans all top-level directories for other > files named "App.l". > > ==X=== > > What is ment by 'all top-level directories'? All directories directly visible in the current working directory. This is the one you see if you enter "$ ls -l" in the REPL. When the above passing of 'hello.zip' worked, you would see a new directory 'hello/', and inside that 'hello/App.l'. "Top-level" means that a file 'hello/foo/App.l' would *not* be considered, only files 'App.l' one level below the working directory. > I tried the termux-share example and tried a download via Fireforx in > default Downloads directory, but without success. After installing the Termux App, you need to call 'termux-setup-storage' one time. It creates a directory tree with symbolic links to globally accessible disk areas. In my case this resulted in total 72K lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 24 May 28 10:04 dcim -> /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 28 May 28 10:04 downloads -> /storage/emulated/0/Download/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 26 May 28 10:04 movies -> /storage/emulated/0/Movies/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 25 May 28 10:04 music -> /storage/emulated/0/Music/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 28 May 28 10:04 pictures -> /storage/emulated/0/Pictures/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 u0_a67 u0_a67 19 May 28 10:04 shared -> /storage/emulated/0/ So I can do things like $ cp hello.zip ~/storage/downloads/ $ termux-share ~/storage/downloads/hello.zip I hope this works for you :) ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi Alex,
I'm very excited about your announcement, so I tried it out immediately :-)
Installation via Google Play worked without problems after searching for
de.software_lab.pilbox
Pilbox starts as documented in the wiki and repl eval works for e.g.
'(version)' and '$ pwd'
Unfortunately I had no luck so far to 'pass the zip to the Pilbox
kernel' - tried it out with the provided hello.zip and calc.zip.
In the wiki there is written
===X
When the PilBox kernel starts, it scans all top-level directories for
other files named "App.l".
==X===
What is ment by 'all top-level directories'?
Where do I have to place the zip files?
I tried the termux-share example and tried a download via Fireforx in
default Downloads directory, but without success.
Pilbox kernel does start up with the empty list.
I think it is a problem with file sharing permissons on my tablet - will
look into that later, after work - , but if I would only have to put the
files on a special folder or sth linke that, any hint is welcome :-)
Thanks a lot for sharing this,
Olaf
On 18.09.2017 14:56, Alexander Burger wrote:
Hi all,
finally, an official version of PilBox is out - and a Wiki article:
https://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilBox
PilBox ("PicoLisp Box") is a generic Android App which allows to write Apps in
pure PicoLisp, without touching Java, and without the need of an Android SDK.
You can get the App (the "PilBox kernel") in Google Play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.software_lab.pilbox
or - if you prefer - download it directly from:
https://software-lab.de/pilBox.apk
Example Apps are:
https://software-lab.de/hello.zip
https://software-lab.de/calc.zip
https://software-lab.de/demo.zip
If you want to modify the kernel, the sources and build instructions in a README
are at:
https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz
I hope it is useful!
♪♫ Alex
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Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Back when I played with it, it could also run ARM apks via emulation. On 2017-09-18 19:52, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:10:01PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> What went of Android x86? > > Would work if somebody compiles the bin/picolisp binary for x86-64 with the > Android NDK. > > ♪♫ Alex > -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:10:01PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: > What went of Android x86? Would work if somebody compiles the bin/picolisp binary for x86-64 with the Android NDK. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
What went of Android x86? > 18 sep. 2017 kl. 18:19 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi Rick, > >> BTW, since I don't have an Android device, I assume that there is a way >> to VM my way to glory and fame in PilBox dev. :) > > The closest thing I can think of is using the emulator(s) that come with > Android > Studio. Haven't tried though ... > > ♪♫ Alex > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi Rick, > BTW, since I don't have an Android device, I assume that there is a way > to VM my way to glory and fame in PilBox dev. :) The closest thing I can think of is using the emulator(s) that come with Android Studio. Haven't tried though ... ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:56 +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > finally, an official version of PilBox is out - and a Wiki article: > >https://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilBox Ah! This is wonderful! Thank you! (BTW, in sharing this with a friend today, I characterized this as "a way to dev eschewing icky Java". :) BTW, since I don't have an Android device, I assume that there is a way to VM my way to glory and fame in PilBox dev. :) I have VirtualBox as a base; so, what resources do I additionally need (e.g., iso install) to build a VM? (Sorry, I don't know much about Android, and this is really an Android platform question and not a picolisp/PilBox question, I know.) Thanks for any help. Again, nice work! Yours, --Rick -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp
Hi all,
finally, an official version of PilBox is out - and a Wiki article:
https://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilBox
PilBox ("PicoLisp Box") is a generic Android App which allows to write Apps in
pure PicoLisp, without touching Java, and without the need of an Android SDK.
You can get the App (the "PilBox kernel") in Google Play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.software_lab.pilbox
or - if you prefer - download it directly from:
https://software-lab.de/pilBox.apk
Example Apps are:
https://software-lab.de/hello.zip
https://software-lab.de/calc.zip
https://software-lab.de/demo.zip
If you want to modify the kernel, the sources and build instructions in a README
are at:
https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz
I hope it is useful!
♪♫ Alex
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