RE: [pinhole-discussion] swap
I have particpated in beer swaps online before, and the way we did it was to create the list, and each individual sent to TWO other people on the list, in a sort of "round robin" way. That way, each person received something from two others, and only had to ship two packages. Is this supposed to be a "swap" or a moving portfolio? If the latter, everyone could create say three prints (or as many as you want, but plan for multiple portfolios) and then ship all to one person. The list is divided into three groups based on location. That person assembles the three packages and ships to the first three people. Each portfolio keeps traveling, but only within its geographic area. For instance, maybe one for Europe, one for Eastern North America, another for Western NA. This would make the portfolios travel faster, everyone gets to share the expense of shipping at least once. The only question is what to do with the prints afterward. Now if it's truly a swap, where we give prints away, I suggest we borrow from my beer exchange technique (although we can send to more people if we want, since prints are easier to ship than beer!).
[pinhole-discussion] a holiday wish
I believe we just passed our third year since James Kellar started the list (around November of '97?), and it looks like we're still going strong. Happy holidays to everyone, and I'd like to say its really great having this on-going conversation for the past 3 years. If may speak for the list membership, "thanks, James for moderating the list all this time" - great job. Hope everyone has a safe holiday and takes at least 1 pinhole photo. Here's my cheesy e-card since I'm too late and too cheap to send everyone a real one... http://www.p at ???/postcard/mailbox/holidays2000.html Best wishes for the new year, Gregg Kemp _ Pinhole Visions at http://www.p at ???
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Another Lurker
I'm the crackercam guy. I am greatly gratified to have helped get your creative work going. I like the carousel best. It and the curved film plane are more uniquely pin-ish. - Original Message - From: Tom Hawkins To: Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 8:19 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Another Lurker > Hullo Pinholers > > I have been subscribed to the list for some time now and I have greatly > enjoyed the discussion and images, especially the crackercam stuff. I > thought it was about time I joined in. > > I first discovered pinholing during the final year of my degree in > Manchester where I was Inspired by a comment of a photographer friend of > mine that you could make a camera out of a drinks can. Armed with only > that information I did several experiments and made a few good images and I > enjoyed the back to basics aspect of it particularly. > > After graduation I moved to London (3 years ago) and dropped the hobby for > a time because I had no access to a darkroom. The reason I have taken it > up again is because I recently moved into a new flat which has a wonderful > view over London and I also had nothing to put on the walls, so my mission > became to photograph aspects of the view but closer to the bulidings or > whatever and to decorate the walls with them. (even cooler would be to > make the room into a camera and paste emulsion on the walls but it is a > rented place!) What better way than to make pinhole photos of these > subjects, so for about the last two months I have been messing around at > the weekends making cameras and taking pictures, I made my Bathroom into a > darkroom with a lightproof curtain (what was stopping me before?) Some of > the results are posted to the upload gallery (see below), I particularly > enjoy the warping of images that comes with curving the media. > > Up to now I've been using paper negatives but I recently aquired a 5x7 > sheet film holder and I intend to make a camera or two for it over > christmas. I'll post the results when I do them. > > Here are links to my uploads and I hope that you enjoy them: > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/thallsouls.jpg > > This was a Manchester IRN BRU drink can image > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ththeview.jpg > > This is the view from my window that inspired me BUT the main buildings are > too far away to be big in this picture. > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ththewalls_.jpg > > The walls that I must fill with pinhole photos more spooky as a negative I > think. > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/thbatchurch_.jpg > > A church from the view (I'm not obsessed with churches OK) thats me in it > by the way. > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/thlondeye.jpg > > The London eye (also in the view from my window) > > > Sorry about the long message but I like people to know where I'm coming from. > > expect more images in the new year > > Merry Christmas > > Tom Hawkins > > PS Does anybody in the UK know a supplier of thin silver for pinhole making? > > PPS Do count me in on any print swap! > > > > Tom Hawkins > thomas.hawk...@ucl.ac.uk > Phone: 020 7679 4437 > Fax: 020 7679 7349 > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] swap
I really thought the last pinhole print swap was great and would like to participate in this one as well. So please add me to the list. Hope everyone has a wonderful holiday. Santa brought me Zernike's new multiformat 6x9 pinhole camera and I can't wait to test drive it. Happy New Year (the actual millennium year)! Claudia Smith -- you are invited to visit http://sfbaysailingpix.com/mondolomo.htm and http://www.ns.net/~cbs
[pinhole-discussion] Re: swap
Hi James and all pinholers, The last swap let me have a very special experience. I enjoy it so much. Please count me on for the coming swap. I think this time we have to print more and more... and need more time!!! I don't have any idea for this swap but I really enjoy receiving prints in different materials, format, style...from pinholer of all over the world. Have a happy holidays. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. Fung Hei Fat Choi. Greeting from Hong Kong, Zernike Au
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Season Greetings
I wish to add my Good Wishes for a Happy Holiday Season and a wonderful New Year to this wild, crazy, interesting group. Cheers! leezy
[pinhole-discussion] Another Lurker
Hullo Pinholers I have been subscribed to the list for some time now and I have greatly enjoyed the discussion and images, especially the crackercam stuff. I thought it was about time I joined in. I first discovered pinholing during the final year of my degree in Manchester where I was Inspired by a comment of a photographer friend of mine that you could make a camera out of a drinks can. Armed with only that information I did several experiments and made a few good images and I enjoyed the back to basics aspect of it particularly. After graduation I moved to London (3 years ago) and dropped the hobby for a time because I had no access to a darkroom. The reason I have taken it up again is because I recently moved into a new flat which has a wonderful view over London and I also had nothing to put on the walls, so my mission became to photograph aspects of the view but closer to the bulidings or whatever and to decorate the walls with them. (even cooler would be to make the room into a camera and paste emulsion on the walls but it is a rented place!) What better way than to make pinhole photos of these subjects, so for about the last two months I have been messing around at the weekends making cameras and taking pictures, I made my Bathroom into a darkroom with a lightproof curtain (what was stopping me before?) Some of the results are posted to the upload gallery (see below), I particularly enjoy the warping of images that comes with curving the media. Up to now I've been using paper negatives but I recently aquired a 5x7 sheet film holder and I intend to make a camera or two for it over christmas. I'll post the results when I do them. Here are links to my uploads and I hope that you enjoy them: http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/thallsouls.jpg This was a Manchester IRN BRU drink can image http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ththeview.jpg This is the view from my window that inspired me BUT the main buildings are too far away to be big in this picture. http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ththewalls_.jpg The walls that I must fill with pinhole photos more spooky as a negative I think. http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/thbatchurch_.jpg A church from the view (I'm not obsessed with churches OK) thats me in it by the way. http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/thlondeye.jpg The London eye (also in the view from my window) Sorry about the long message but I like people to know where I'm coming from. expect more images in the new year Merry Christmas Tom Hawkins PS Does anybody in the UK know a supplier of thin silver for pinhole making? PPS Do count me in on any print swap! Tom Hawkins thomas.hawk...@ucl.ac.uk Phone: 020 7679 4437 Fax: 020 7679 7349
FW: [pinhole-discussion] Lasers
Well I finally got through & all I can say is : It was worth the wait!! Neat...thanks andy -Original Message- From: Andy Schmitt [mailto:aschm...@warwick.net] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:46 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Lasers Wow...this is the first time I've received the message: "The page cannot be displayed There are too many people accessing the Web site at this time " Quite an Opening, I'd say... I'll be back later.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Klaas Wynne Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:49 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Lasers Hi guys: I made some pinhole photos of the lasers in my lab and put them at http://dutch.phys.strath.ac.uk/FRC/Picture_diary/picture_diary.html (the first four photos). In two of the photos you can see diffraction rings and speckle patterns due to interference of the laser light. I think it's kinda nice. Happy holidays and all that. Klaas Wynne. ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] swap
Jean, You're absolutely right... (BTW, your English is great!). I suppose that we all caught on on the idea of the swap as a great idea to start 2001 and that we figured out that the discussion on details would come afterwards. As for me, I would certainly prefer an "open" subject, rather than a pre-determined topic. As far as the number of prints, I have no particular opinion. My plan would be to send one print, but I would not want that to be a constraint for others. There may be something to be said for having a maximum format (size) for the prints (perhaps not larger than 8x10", this is pure guess work here). It would help if you plan to put them in a book afterwards. Perhaps a signature as well on the back (I did'nt participate in the first 2 swaps and these questions might have been discussed before). One issue for me is the toal number of prints to be printed and sent: I saw a list a while back on a Web site (can't remember the details) with well over 100 names on it. Then I asked myself: how long would it take me to print, say, 100 prints in the darkroom (assuming no burning and dodging) and I saw the time rise very fast... 100 times the following: pull paper out of box, place under the enlarger, expose, run to the processing trays + 2 minutes in the developer + 30 secs. in the stop + 2-5 mins. in the fix + 10-20 mins. washing + drying time: this is already well over 15 hours non-stop... Then run to buy enveloppes + place in enveloppe and write address + get stamps for all over the world + stick stamps on enveloppe + run to post office and drop in mailboxThis is another many hours... This adds up very fast (not to mention the question of cost for those who may have a budget constraint... Where these issues raised earlier? Of course, the rewards are commensurate to the effort in preparing these prints. But my question is: did I get the modalities of the swap right? BTW, this does not change my mind about participating: I'm just trying to figure out what is involved! Merci de nous rappeler à l'ordre, Jean! Et Joyeux Noël dans le doux pays de France... Guy Glorieux Montréal, Canada Jean Daubas wrote: > Hello pinholers, > > I would not like to annoy any more the members of the pinhole list but I > have a doubt about the correct transmission of my message of last tuesday. > By the fact, I got some problems on my PC and with my e-mail software. I'm > not sure my post has actually been sent to the list; what makes me think of > that problem is that I see numerous people answering to James's proposition > for a new print swap but I find none of them expresing any comments or > answers about the suggestions I made in my message. James asked us to > express ideas while we affirmed our will of participation in this new > swap... > It's why I beg your indulgence and allow myself to send you again my first > post, in order to be sure that it reaches all members of the list. > Sorry for the eventuality of a "double exposure" to my bad english! > Have a merry Christmas and thanks to all of you pinholers for the high > quality and the nice open mind (...open "bodily orifices" seem to find their > way too...) of this list > Pinholing cheers from France > Jean > > Original message from Jean Daubas was sent to the list on : > Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:27 PM > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] new Print swap > > > Hello James and all pinhole swappers ! > > > > When I started my PC this morning, I wanted to post a message about > > launching a new print swap since the last one was some months ago now... > > What a surprise when, reading the posts arrived during the night, I > > discovered James' mailing and his intention of organizing a new print swap > ! > > Coincidence or overseas telepathy ? > > I've been lucky participating in the 2 previous Pinhole print swaps : the > > first one already organised by James in 1999 (14 swappers) and the Zero > 2000 > > Print Swap which i myself coordinated in the spring of this year (18 > > swappers, several among us were already present in the 1st print swap). > > The 2 swaps have been wonderful experiences for me; the pleasure of > opening > > your mail-box and finding envelopes coming from various countries , the > > surprise of opening these envelopes and discovering pictures and words > from > > people you don't know... Pleasure of sending one of of my own pictures to > > everybody ! > > And after, pleasure of finding a way of keeping and enjoying this > collection > > of pictures and letters ( I manufactured large albums for each of the > swaps) > > ! > > Now, James, you ask us some ideas... So, I would like to express comments > > originated by my 2 first experiences. > > > > - 1 - The first Print Swap was a " no imposed subject" swap and the > second > > one was a "imposed camera" (Zero 2000) print swap. I personnaly think > that, > > if we are going to repeat swaps on a regular basis (i.e. 2 or 3 by year) > it > > would be better to define
[pinhole-discussion] reply for Andy Schmitt
For Andy Schmitt, (apologies to the rest of the list) I would like to respond to you off list but any mail I send to warwick.net always bounces back to me as undeliverable (it has been happening for 1/2 a year with my sisiter who is on the same provider). Do You have another email address I could send it too? Thanks ED Edward Levinson *Specializing in Fine Art and Editorial Pinhole Photography* *online portfolio at http://www.awa.or.jp/home/edo *
Re: [pinhole-discussion] new images on the web
am 10.11.2000 1:50 Uhr schrieb James Kellar unter ja...@kellar.com: > Hi all, > > I hope every one is doing well. I just now put up 3 images on the web. All > were taken with my Zero 2000. Has anyone bought one of Zenrike's new 6x9s? > If so let us know what you think when you get it. You can see my images at: > > http://www.james.kellar.com/artshow.jpg > http://www.james.kellar.com/bs1.jpg > http://www.james.kellar.com/gas.jpg > the only what I can see is: Not Found The requested URL /bs1.jpg was not found on this server. Beate
Re: [pinhole-discussion] swap
Hello pinholers, I would not like to annoy any more the members of the pinhole list but I have a doubt about the correct transmission of my message of last tuesday. By the fact, I got some problems on my PC and with my e-mail software. I'm not sure my post has actually been sent to the list; what makes me think of that problem is that I see numerous people answering to James's proposition for a new print swap but I find none of them expresing any comments or answers about the suggestions I made in my message. James asked us to express ideas while we affirmed our will of participation in this new swap... It's why I beg your indulgence and allow myself to send you again my first post, in order to be sure that it reaches all members of the list. Sorry for the eventuality of a "double exposure" to my bad english! Have a merry Christmas and thanks to all of you pinholers for the high quality and the nice open mind (...open "bodily orifices" seem to find their way too...) of this list Pinholing cheers from France Jean Original message from Jean Daubas was sent to the list on : Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:27 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] new Print swap > Hello James and all pinhole swappers ! > > When I started my PC this morning, I wanted to post a message about > launching a new print swap since the last one was some months ago now... > What a surprise when, reading the posts arrived during the night, I > discovered James' mailing and his intention of organizing a new print swap ! > Coincidence or overseas telepathy ? > I've been lucky participating in the 2 previous Pinhole print swaps : the > first one already organised by James in 1999 (14 swappers) and the Zero 2000 > Print Swap which i myself coordinated in the spring of this year (18 > swappers, several among us were already present in the 1st print swap). > The 2 swaps have been wonderful experiences for me; the pleasure of opening > your mail-box and finding envelopes coming from various countries , the > surprise of opening these envelopes and discovering pictures and words from > people you don't know... Pleasure of sending one of of my own pictures to > everybody ! > And after, pleasure of finding a way of keeping and enjoying this collection > of pictures and letters ( I manufactured large albums for each of the swaps) > ! > Now, James, you ask us some ideas... So, I would like to express comments > originated by my 2 first experiences. > > - 1 - The first Print Swap was a " no imposed subject" swap and the second > one was a "imposed camera" (Zero 2000) print swap. I personnaly think that, > if we are going to repeat swaps on a regular basis (i.e. 2 or 3 by year) it > would be better to define a "subject", which gives some coherence ; of > course, this "subject" has to be broad enough to respect every swapper's > freedom and also to obtain a collection showing the diversity of ways to > express a subject by pinhole pictures ! > > - 2 - The other comment is maybe more personal and is about the number of > prints : I must say that 1 only picture has been for me frustrating; I mean > that I had difficulties to choose a single picture to send to the swappers. > The prints I sent were always belonging to series and I felt frustrated to > "reduce" my work to a one picture only ! I was not alone in this case since > I noticed that some of the swappers did not send the same pictures to all > swappers, which mean they did not want to make a single selection ! Of > course this depends on the way everybody works and I would not allow myself > to express any judgment; I only know that, for myself, pinhole pictures > always belong to a kind of "continuous work" since for me pinhole > photography is a slow process used to keep traces and to express duration > and depht of vision upon apparences. It's why a single picture has just a > little meaning for me. > Is it possible to imagine a Print swap in which we would send a small serie > of 3 pictures for example ? > It is just a question about which I would like everybody to express; of > course I am perfectly aware of the difficulties arised by such a proposition > : a lot of time and of course the economical cost of 3 prints instead of 1 > ( I am very sensible to these problems since I go on with traditional FB > paper darkroom work, which is time consuming and costly). I just wanted to > express my "frustration" about the "1- picture" swaps. All comments are > welcome since I cannot make a clear opinion about that ... > > So, I am ready to sign for the next print swap and you can count on my > participation. > If I had been the first to express the intention of launching a new swap,I > would probably have suggested a subject as self- portrait (I presume nearly > each of us photographers keep a trace of ourselves from time to time on our > pictures). self portraiture seems to be a "not-too-narrow" subject since > there are so many ways to be "present" in a picture. > All Comments about this idea a
