Re: [pinhole-discussion] A website pinhole discovery

2001-03-27 Thread GarfinkelDesign
still looking at this. impressive...

Wendy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] A website pinhole discovery

2001-03-27 Thread Thomas Harvey

Hello all!
I don't know if this incredible pinhole photographer has been 
mentioned on this site before, but check out-


http://photoarts.com/gallery/lousberg/

AMAZING!

Tina


Tina,

Thanks for pointing that out.  And wow!

Tom




Re: [pinhole-discussion] A website pinhole discovery

2001-03-27 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 3/27/01 10:21:37 PM, tima...@hotmail.com writes:

<< http://photoarts.com/gallery/lousberg/ >>

The whole site is incredible, spectacular, wonderfuldon't miss it.
Thank you.
leezy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] A website pinhole discovery

2001-03-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Wow, thanks, love the Baths set.

Pam

Tina Martin wrote:
> 
> Hello all!
> I don't know if this incredible pinhole photographer has been mentioned on
> this site before, but check out-
> 
> http://photoarts.com/gallery/lousberg/
> 
> AMAZING!
> 
> Tina


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:[pinhole-discussion]lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread mark dungan




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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:21:13 EST


In a message dated 3/27/01 6:41:18 PM, cfl...@ispchannel.com writes:

<<  We use soda cans, drill with a

needle driven into a 3/8" dowel(Thanks Stewart Woodruff),

into an eraser.  Then sand the burr created with fine

sandpaper and tape it over the hole.  >>

That's EXACTLY HOW WE DO IT!
leezy

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I buy an aluminum cookie sheet from the grocery store and cut it into one 
inch squares. Then we drill a pinhole into it with sewing needles (usually 
#10) and emery paper. The drilling is from both sides to produce the 
smoothest hole. Finally,we use a drill to make a larger hole and center the 
pinhole inside of it.


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[pinhole-discussion] A website pinhole discovery

2001-03-27 Thread Tina Martin

Hello all!
I don't know if this incredible pinhole photographer has been mentioned on 
this site before, but check out-


http://photoarts.com/gallery/lousberg/

AMAZING!

Tina
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread mark dungan




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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:45:12 -0500

Rather than making a camera from scratch, I'd suggest they make cameras 
from

found objects (like boxes and cans, etc) which is both easier and more
imaginative ("what kind of image will THIS box give me?"). They can move to
custom design cameras afterward.


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I agree  with Michaelinspire them to find the most creative containers. 
Granted all may not work but someone is garunteed to surprise you. I have 
students make pinhole camera and I give them very little information---they 
always surprise me with their creativity!!!


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RE: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread Michael Keller
Rather than making a camera from scratch, I'd suggest they make cameras from
found objects (like boxes and cans, etc) which is both easier and more
imaginative ("what kind of image will THIS box give me?"). They can move to
custom design cameras afterward.




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:[pinhole-discussion]lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 3/27/01 6:41:18 PM, cfl...@ispchannel.com writes:

<<  We use soda cans, drill with a 

needle driven into a 3/8" dowel(Thanks Stewart Woodruff), 

into an eraser.  Then sand the burr created with fine 

sandpaper and tape it over the hole.  >>

That's EXACTLY HOW WE DO IT!
leezy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Great link, thanks, Guy.

Pam

Guy Glorieux wrote:
> 
> lisa styles wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> >
> > I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson plan
> > on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to make
> > their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam core?
> 
> Hi Lisa,
> 
> You may want to visit the following site of  Martha Casanave from the 
> University
> of California in Santa Cruz.  http://www.stanford.edu/~cpatton/pinhole.html
> 
> She offers a class in pinholin' and she has her class notes on the Web,
> including building a 4x5 foamcore camera. The camera is designed to take 4x5
> film holders, but you could adjust the plans if your students use paper.
> 
> I'm not sure about copyrights here.  You may want to send her an email to 
> check
> with her about using this material.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Guy

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[pinhole-discussion] Re:[pinhole-discussion]lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread Charles Flagg
Lisa,
I start young students with the 35mm film cannisters pinhole 
cameras.  I use a standard single paper punch to put a 1/4" 
hole in the cannister.  We use soda cans, drill with a 
needle driven into a 3/8" dowel(Thanks Stewart Woodruff), 
into an eraser.  Then sand the burr created with fine 
sandpaper and tape it over the hole.  A piece of electrical 
tape is used for a shutter.  I too cut the paper ahead of 
time and store in the safebox.  My older students start with 
a Pringle's Snack ca(3.5"x5"format)spray with flat black 
paint and follow a similar plan as the 35mm.  A great source 
of cannisters is your local photo processing shop.  They 
have been great about saving them for me.
Good Luck,
Chuck Flag




Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread George L Smyth
--- lisa styles  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson plan
> on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to make
> their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam core?

The majority of my cameras have been made either from coffee cans or black foam
core (I have gone up to 16X20 with the latter, but I wouldn't recommend it).

The advantage of foam core is that it is cheap and easy to make.  You can abuse
the camera as much as you want, and when it finally becomes unusable, just toss
it and make another.

Cheers-

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread NORLINK
Lisa
In the pinhole section that I teach, I start them on small simple cameras 
made from plastic film cans (all black with a 1/4" hole drilled in the side) 
and paper negatives. The students make their own pinhole at a specific size 
which is taped over the 1/4" hole, and I give them precut the paper so things 
are standardized. I use the throw away aluminum pie plates or broiler pans 
for the 1" pinhole blanks. Coke can material is pretty hard and students have 
had problems drilling the holes using needles. Once they have made the camera 
and had some success with it, we move on to more individualized cameras of 
their own design. The reason I start them that way is because having to work 
out construction and exposure problems for fifteen or sixteen different sized 
cameras/pinholes before they have a grasp of the basics leads to frustration 
for all.

Happy Trails,
Kurt Norlin



Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread Figurefoto
In a message dated 3/27/01 10:54:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
zin...@telenet.net writes:


> > Hello
> >
> > I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson
> plan
> > on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to
> make
> > their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam
> core?
> > What would be the recommended minimum thickness of cardboard? Can a piece
> of
> > coke can be used for the shutter? My students are year 9/10 (about 15
> years
> > old). Any suggestions for my lesson plan will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >

Lisa,
Call polaroid at their 1-800 number,They will send you some cool plans and a 
lot of great ideas for teachers ,as well as students.the plus side is they 
will be able to check things out without the added labor of developing and 
printing.I dont have the number in front of me but it can be accessed easily.

 Harry 
 http://www.figurefoto.com/";>Figurefoto.com


Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message -
From: "lisa styles" 
>
> I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson
plan
> on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to
make
> their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam
core?
> What would be the recommended minimum thickness of cardboard? Can a piece
of
> coke can be used for the shutter? My students are year 9/10 (about 15
years
> old). Any suggestions for my lesson plan will be greatly appreciated.

The reason for building a box out of foam core is to use cut film holders.
For your purposes there is really no need to do that, just use any hollow
container, cereal boxes, cereal cylindrical containers, show boxes, soda pop
cans, etc.   Soda can material is OK to make the pinholes.  For the shutter,
get a small piece of kitchen aluminum foil, stick it to a piece of tape
(duct tape, electric tape, etc).  Stick the piece of tape on top of the
pinhole in such a way that the piece of aluminum is right on the pinhole
aperture, the aluminum will prevent the aperture to become contaminated with
the tape's glue.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread Kosinski Family
Hi Lisa,
You should turn the classroom into a giant camera!
It's easy. Just cover the windows with light blocking material like
cardboard, black plastic, (someone recently wrote about using aluminum
foil), etc.
Then cut a small square in a central place (a 2 inch square works well).
Make apertures of different sizes & shapes out of black paper or plastic to
place over the hole and see the image fill up the whole room. A 1 inch
circle will do for a start, you can vary from 1/2 inch up to 2 inches.
Next, add a lens to see how one of those fancy camera things work.
Let the kids do all the work, it's skill building!
Have a great class.
Jim K
www.paintcancamera.com

- Original Message -
From: "lisa styles" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:23 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan


>
> Hello
>
> I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson
plan
> on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to
make
> their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam
core?
> What would be the recommended minimum thickness of cardboard? Can a piece
of
> coke can be used for the shutter? My students are year 9/10 (about 15
years
> old). Any suggestions for my lesson plan will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards, Lisa
>
>
>
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] Kodak Shutter

2001-03-27 Thread Andy Schmitt
which one were you playing with? I had a devil of a time with one of those a
while back & pretty much gave up.
 125th you say.. stop action Pinhole...cool
andy

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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 PM
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Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Kodak Shutter


Hello,

I have found that in Kodak single use Camera's the
shutter is not part of the single element lens.
Removing the shutter from the camera,  it can be a
cheap and simple alternitive to mountint a pin hole to
a copal shutter.
I beleive that the shutter on the Kodak is around
1/125sec.  but you can modify the shutter easily.

David Spencer
Southern Zion Picture Co.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread B2MYOUNG
Lisa,

When I teach pinhole, we start with an empty box of salt. We paint it black 
on the inside with tempera paint and cut a 1" square hole for the pinhole 
which is made from the soda can. Tape, a new top, etc. It's very easy.

leezy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread Guy Glorieux

lisa styles wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson plan
> on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to make
> their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam core?

Hi Lisa,

You may want to visit the following site of  Martha Casanave from the University
of California in Santa Cruz.  http://www.stanford.edu/~cpatton/pinhole.html

She offers a class in pinholin' and she has her class notes on the Web,
including building a 4x5 foamcore camera. The camera is designed to take 4x5
film holders, but you could adjust the plans if your students use paper.

I'm not sure about copyrights here.  You may want to send her an email to check
with her about using this material.

Cheers,

Guy






[pinhole-discussion] lesson plan

2001-03-27 Thread lisa styles
Hello

I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson plan
on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to make
their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam core?
What would be the recommended minimum thickness of cardboard? Can a piece of
coke can be used for the shutter? My students are year 9/10 (about 15 years
old). Any suggestions for my lesson plan will be greatly appreciated.

Regards, Lisa





Re: [pinhole-discussion] question on making pictures of pebbles...

2001-03-27 Thread Guy Glorieux
John Ptak wrote:

> The effect I'm trying to gain is imaging small objects close-up at
> ground
> level,

John,

I know a pinholer here in Montreal who actually diggs the ground to get
his pinhole almost flush with the ground.  Wild images he gets with his
Leornado.  Of course, he protects it so that the soil does not damage it
too much.  This is perhaps something you could try.  Digging in the
pebbles and having your pinhole right down there.

Guy




Re: [pinhole-discussion] question on making pictures of pebbles...

2001-03-27 Thread Tom Miller
Hi John,

Welcome to the group!  Your idea is a good one.  The best thing to do
is try it and see.  My guess is that you'll definitely get the pebbles
close up, but because of the greater distance between the aperture and
the edge of the film plane, there will be a lot of light loss at the
far edges.  This could well enhance the image.  Another possibility is
to move the paper closer to the pinhole and make the exposure with the
camera on its side.  I've done this with mixed results, mostly bad.  I
like the idea of moving the pinhole closer to the bottom of the can.

Tom


- Original Message -
From: "John Ptak" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:54 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] question on making pictures of
pebbles...


> Hello group.
> I'm new here and to pinhole as a process as well. (I
> have just completed an 8-part course at the
> Smithsonian given by the excellent Ed Kirkpatrick).
> I've made 3 cameras of metal containers of various
> sizes with good results.  Presently I do have a
> question which I hope the members of this group will
> be able to address.  Say I'm exposing a 7x10" paper
> negative in a round can (150mm diameter, 170mm tall,
> f=256 or so) with an aperture on the center of the
> wall of the can.  What happens if I were to make a new
> aperture closer to the bottom of the can, for example
> at about 20mm from bottom?  The effect I'm trying to
> gain is imaging small objects close-up at ground
> level, and I'm thinking that one way of doing this is
> with this low-level aperture with the camera on the
> ground.  Is this the case?
> Many thanks for your help.
> Best regards,
> John Ptak, Washington DC
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] question on making pictures of pebbles...

2001-03-27 Thread Kosinski Family
John, this is a good idea for pebbles. However, you are going to distort
perspective somewhat and you'll get less of an image than you would by
simply tilting your camera down. Why not try it by putting a second aperture
in your camera at the lower position? The description of your camera reminds
me of the ones I make from paint cans.
Jim Kosinski
www.paintcancamera.com

The effect I'm trying to
> gain is imaging small objects close-up at ground
> level, and I'm thinking that one way of doing this is
> with this low-level aperture with the camera on the
> ground.  Is this the case?
> Many thanks for your help.
> Best regards,
> John Ptak, Washington DC





[pinhole-discussion] question on making pictures of pebbles...

2001-03-27 Thread John Ptak
Hello group.
I'm new here and to pinhole as a process as well. (I
have just completed an 8-part course at the
Smithsonian given by the excellent Ed Kirkpatrick). 
I've made 3 cameras of metal containers of various
sizes with good results.  Presently I do have a
question which I hope the members of this group will
be able to address.  Say I'm exposing a 7x10" paper
negative in a round can (150mm diameter, 170mm tall,
f=256 or so) with an aperture on the center of the
wall of the can.  What happens if I were to make a new
aperture closer to the bottom of the can, for example
at about 20mm from bottom?  The effect I'm trying to
gain is imaging small objects close-up at ground
level, and I'm thinking that one way of doing this is
with this low-level aperture with the camera on the
ground.  Is this the case?  
Many thanks for your help.
Best regards,
John Ptak, Washington DC

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] New picture uploaded

2001-03-27 Thread Mike Vande Bunt
Guy Glorieux wrote:

> I'm never sure how the next picture will turn out which opens up the
> possibility of great surprises.

Yes!  That's exactly why I like pinhole.  One can only previsualize
the shot to a certain extent but there's always that elememt of
surprise in the final result.

Mike Vande Bunt