[pinhole-discussion] 6x9 camera conversion

2003-04-29 Thread Uptown Gallery
Hello:

I picked up an Agfa Ventura 69 folder. The lens is filthy and shutter is
stiff and maybe worse than just that.

I would like to get it off for two purposes - Pinhole 6x9 of course, and to
battle the lens/shutter if possible.

I am puzzled abotu how to remove it - any experience with this?

It's supposedly the same as an Agfa Billy Record (What a weird
name!)...Vario shutter, 105 mm f/6.3 Agnar lens.

Thank you

Murray




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message -
From: Wally  Wolfgang Thoma-Schuermans th...@pandora.be

 Very interesting. I have a Lubitel myself (bought in a second hand shop
 in Prague for 10 USD) that I wanted to use for serious 6x6 work, but
 it leaks light like hell, so why not transform it. Can you give me
 details (how to open the lens) etc. Can I still use the shutter?
 greetings, Taco

Taco,

It is actually very easy, the shutter/lens assembly come off by removing the
lock nut at the rear and accessed thru the inside of the camera, use a
screwdriver to turn the nut, once the assembly is off the camera, unscrew the
very front of the lens, then you'll see another small lens also part of the
front lens elements, this one is removed by removing a C clip.  At the rear of
the shutter there is another C clip that allow you to remove the rear lens
element.  I mount the new aperture in place of the rear element, this place the
ZP, etc. 65mm or so from the film plane.  I first mount the ZP on a plastic
circle that fits snugly on the rear of the shutter, I usually use plastic from
one of those 35mm canister's cap.  Recently I have decided I will not use this
cameras with their original glass, so I being making a hole in the center of the
glass rear element and mount the aperture there.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread Alexis Rago

Dear Chris

I am impressed with you photos
they are a fantastic quality and the compositions are so right

Alexis




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread Wally Wolfgang Thoma-Schuermans
Guillermo wrote:

 I have 2 Lubitels fitted with ZP (one) and Pinhole Sieve (other one), if you
 mount the ZP or Sieve in th eplace of the rear glass element, you'd get a
 65mm focal length, they work very nice for me.  I have a third Lubitel that
 I will turn into a 65mm Pinhole camera to complement my Agfa 6X6 converted
 to 35mm pinhole.  For ZP and Sieve, a shutter is almost a must (it is for me
 anyway) and you can still use the shutter of the Lubitel.  I haven't used a
 P67.

Very interesting. I have a Lubitel myself (bought in a second hand shop
in Prague for 10 USD) that I wanted to use for serious 6x6 work, but
it leaks light like hell, so why not transform it. Can you give me
details (how to open the lens) etc. Can I still use the shutter?
greetings, Taco




Re: Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread jac
i'm not very handy, but the shutter in the Lubitel pops right off (from the
inside). i then punched a hole in a piece of shim-stock (any auto parts
store-very cheap), glued the zone plate to that, then glued the shimstock to
the shutter housing. all together it took about15 minutes.
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From: Mark Interrante m...@interwalk.com
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 I shoot zone plate and have been wondering how I could easily get a camera
 with a shutter, due to the lack of being able to take shots faster than
1/2
 second (bright daylight).  How hard was it to modify the libitel?  Looks
 like there are dozens on ebay.

 Mark










RE: Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread Mark Interrante
I shoot zone plate and have been wondering how I could easily get a camera
with a shutter, due to the lack of being able to take shots faster than 1/2
second (bright daylight).  How hard was it to modify the libitel?  Looks
like there are dozens on ebay.

Mark

http://www.interwalk.com/pinhole.htm (current work on the site is almost all
zone plate)


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- Original Message -
From: Colin  Linda McKie colinmc...@xtra.co.nz

 You don't say anything about hardware, but I guess from the quality
 and square format you're using some kind of 6 x 6. We're trying to
 decide whether to get a zone plate and pinhole sieve for our P67 with
 a bodycap mount, or butcher an old TLR (Lubitel etc?) to get a good
 viewfinder without having to fit a lens for aiming. Comments welcome
 from anyone with experience in this line.

Colin+Linda,

I have 2 Lubitels fitted with ZP (one) and Pinhole Sieve (other one), if you
mount the ZP or Sieve in th eplace of the rear glass element, you'd get a
65mm focal length, they work very nice for me.  I have a third Lubitel that
I will turn into a 65mm Pinhole camera to complement my Agfa 6X6 converted
to 35mm pinhole.  For ZP and Sieve, a shutter is almost a must (it is for me
anyway) and you can still use the shutter of the Lubitel.  I haven't used a
P67.

Guillermo


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Re: Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message -
From: Colin  Linda McKie colinmc...@xtra.co.nz

 You don't say anything about hardware, but I guess from the quality
 and square format you're using some kind of 6 x 6. We're trying to
 decide whether to get a zone plate and pinhole sieve for our P67 with
 a bodycap mount, or butcher an old TLR (Lubitel etc?) to get a good
 viewfinder without having to fit a lens for aiming. Comments welcome
 from anyone with experience in this line.

Colin+Linda,

I have 2 Lubitels fitted with ZP (one) and Pinhole Sieve (other one), if you
mount the ZP or Sieve in th eplace of the rear glass element, you'd get a
65mm focal length, they work very nice for me.  I have a third Lubitel that
I will turn into a 65mm Pinhole camera to complement my Agfa 6X6 converted
to 35mm pinhole.  For ZP and Sieve, a shutter is almost a must (it is for me
anyway) and you can still use the shutter of the Lubitel.  I haven't used a
P67.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread Brigitte . Harper
Your choice of subject matter for zone plate is fabulous! You have inspired
me greatly. Thanks.

Regards,
Brigitte.




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On 24 Apr 2003 at 10:51, Rauch, Shelley wrote:

 I'm probably getting too far ahead of myself, but I've come across some
references to these items.
 Anyone have any experience with either of these tools?  Pros/cons/general
.02 cents?

I have been using a zone plate for about a year, and am extremely intrigued
by the
quality of image it produces.  To me it,  reveals the energy beneath the
surface of
things.

My zone plate photos:  http://www.ellingerphoto.com/

Chris Ellinger
Ann Arbor, MI  USA


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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves

2003-04-29 Thread Colin Linda McKie
Hi Chris,

I think you can see they are greatly appreciated by other
photographers. In fact we reckon they are the best lensless work we've
seen. The technique and the vision match beautifully.

You don't say anything about hardware, but I guess from the quality
and square format you're using some kind of 6 x 6. We're trying to
decide whether to get a zone plate and pinhole sieve for our P67 with
a bodycap mount, or butcher an old TLR (Lubitel etc?) to get a good
viewfinder without having to fit a lens for aiming. Comments welcome
from anyone with experience in this line.

Anyway, great work, Chris!

Colin  Linda

 Thanks for the comment on my ZP photos.  It's nice to know they are 
 appreciated by
 fellow photographers.

 Best,

 Chris