[pinhole-discussion] Re: sanding of the coating
> Trent wrote: > Gary, > Why do you have to sand off the coating? It's probably obvious to > everyone else, but I've never recycled soda-pop cans into > pinhole plates. I've always been blessed with plenty of > brass shim stock laying around. > Thanks in advance. > Later, > Trent > > Gray answered: > Trent, > What a great question! Actually, I just ASSUMED that it would be > necessary; my reasoning was that the thin (0.00025 in) plastic coating > on each side increases the thickness of the material. > Gary > Trent, don't be worried. For my "state of the art" camera's I use aquired very thin pinholes, but for my "fun work" with shoe boxes etc. I don't want to spoil my scissors with the (very hard) soda cans and use pet food aluminium trays or aluminium pizza bottoms instead. Far softer, easier to cut and also much thicker, but believe me, the thickness is not SO VERY important. The most important is YOU who takes the shot and decides what, when and how. Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] smaller needle diameter
>> Trent Dowler wrote: > > > > Speaking of needles, > > Later, > > Trent > > > Like you, I've seen an article (can't remember where) of a Belgian guy > who uses INJECTION NEEDLES for the advantage of the "chisel point" tip. > I'll try to find him again. > taco Found him: URL for contact is http://www.wereldkeuken.be/contact/index.html It's in Dutch, but I suppose the guy speaks English. Short translation: Onderwerp = subject Je boodschap = your message Greetings, taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] smaller needle diameter
Trent Dowler wrote: > > Speaking of needles, has anyone tried acupuncture needles for making > pinholes? I've seen at least one article (can't remember where) that made > mention of their use because of their *very* small diameter, built in handle, > and apparently a "chisel point" tip on them. > > Later, > Trent > Like you, I've seen an article (can't remember where) of a Belgian guy who uses INJECTION NEEDLES for the advantage of the "chisel point" tip. I'll try to find him again. taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Light metering with TTL camera's
js...@aol.com wrote: > I use a hand held light meter to get a f/16 exposure and then refer to a > table that shows what the correct time is for the pinhole aperture I am using. > > Jim Stewart > Thanks, that's the most sensible answer. (All others refer to: "it works with camera X but not with camera Y" or something similar. As I'm not rich enough to buy a new Canon EOS but just wanted to use an old Practica, now I know what to do. Discussion ended and forgotten!!! taco
[pinhole-discussion] Light metering with TTL camera's
Imagine, I want to use a body cap with a pinhole with a reflex camera. Any ideas if I can use the TTL light meter of the camera, eventually in combination with David Balihar's calculator? Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Bessaflex
"Stewart C.Russell" wrote: > >... and the new Voigtlaender Bessaflex (an M42-mount SLR; how retro is that?) >all use the same chassis. > > Stewart > Nothing to do with pinholing, but anyway: Any idea where I can find more details over the Bessaflex? Nearly all pages I found with Google are in Japanese. Reason: I still have an old Practica Super TL with damaged lightmeter, but all the M42 lenses are o.k. and as I am anyway a friend of "manual" shooting, a Bessaflex sounds nice. Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003
"G.Penate" wrote: > > Well, Taco, It is like Dirk Nowitzski, the German basketball player, star of > the > Dallas Mavericks, he may play and live in the USofA for the greater part of > the > year, but when it comes to International Events, I am pretty sure he plays for > Germany. I am no star, just your run of the mill occasional pinholer, but in > this International event, I choose to "play" as a Salvadorean. > o.k., I can accept that. But why "the Toronto skyline" under a posting from El Salvador? taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003
Richard Heather wrote: > > Actually it seems that there are 1159 submissions! > Richard Heather > - Original Message - > From: "James Kellar" > > > Hi all, > > Now that WPPD 2003 is now over I want to thank every one that made it > > all possible. That not only goes to all the folks you see listed at > > http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/2003/index.php?epage=credits, who > > deserve a big round a applause, but every one who submitted a > > photograph. I found it hard to believe that there were 1082 submissions > > from 43 countries. > > Thanks for a great WPPD and see you next year. > > James > > Actually, it also seems that there are no 43 countries but less: I never heard of a country called "Europa Island" and the e-mail address of Mercedes is definitively in Spain, same for Guillermo, known as living in Canada but giving as location El Salvador. (and then with the subtitle "Partial view of Toronto's skyline...") taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Panoramic Characteristics?
CJ Rumpolo wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. As for now the camera design phase is on hold till I > get some other things done. A shame when work gets in the way of creation. > But so far the camera is a 6x12 format, using a 67.5 mm focal length and a 3 > micron pinhole. I am planning on using a curved film plane to help eliminate > vignetting (though I am uncertain if this is even needed, I have to locate > the calculations regarding image circle to film plane stuff). How do I > figure out the vertical angle of view? I have a foam board prototype to help > me in the planning stage. The only problem that I am really having is the > film winding mechanism. Anyhow should this endeavor work itself out I am > hoping to make the plans available on my site should anyone be interested in > it. Then again I really should focus on my gallery. Anyhow enjoy and thanks > again. > 3 micron = 0,003 mm for a focal length of 67,5 mm will give you a f/stop of 22500 Sure of the 3 micron? taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Tests in different film formats
bendur...@aol.com wrote: > > Hello > Does anyone have plans for how to turn a lubitel in a pinhole camera? > I bought one ages ago but never got round to using it. > Cheers > Ben > Yes, Guillermo sent me one. Here it comes: Taco, It is actually very easy, the shutter/lens assembly come off by removing the lock nut at the rear and accessed thru the inside of the camera, use a screwdriver to turn the nut, once the assembly is off the camera, unscrew the very front of the lens, then you'll see another small lens also part of the front lens elements, this one is removed by removing a "C" clip. At the rear of the shutter there is another "C" clip that allow you to remove the rear lens element. I mount the new aperture in place of the rear element, this place the ZP, etc. 65mm or so from the film plane. I first mount the ZP on a plastic circle that fits snugly on the rear of the shutter, I usually use plastic from one of those 35mm canister's cap. Recently I have decided I will not use this cameras with their original glass, so I being making a hole in the center of the glass rear element and mount the aperture there. Guillermo taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Tests in different film formats
Brian Reynolds wrote: > My Lubitels are pretty good. The first one seem right on, the second > one is close, but has a slower shutter than the first. I haven't > bothered to quantify the difference, but it may be as much as one > stop. If I ever bother to get a shutter tester I may see exactly how > much they differ. > Brian, Thanks for the answer, but HOW CLOSE are they? More to the 400 ore more to the 1600? greetings, taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #887 - 15 msgs
Philip willarney wrote: > > Hey! What's wrong with bits of aluminum from pop > cans? Less likely to tear than foil, and you can leav > the natty printing from the can facing out so folks > know what you've been drinking (^: > > -- PW If you or one of the neighbours has a cat, it's even more simple: Take the body (or the cover) of a Sheba can. The body is thicker and easier to drill, so thats my standard method, but the lid is easier to cut and everybody can see that you are a petlover taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Tests in different film formats
Shannon Stoney wrote: > > My experience is: no. First, you shoot them in different cameras, and the > shutters in those different cameras may vary, so that your 35mm camera > shoots TriX at say 600 while your 4x5 shoots it at 320. (I have an old > Lubitel that requires an ISO of 1600 for TriX!) > > --shannon Are there other Lubitel users in the group with the same experience or may it even vary from Lubitel to Lubitel? taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] medium format pinhole
Shannon Stoney wrote: > > > Hmmm... this feels like deja-vu, all over again! > > Is there a searchable archive for the pinhole list? > > --shannon > Yes, go to http://www.???/discussion/archive.php and there it is taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] medium format pinhole
"D. Hill" wrote: > > Heidi, > > This may be blasphemy - but any of the diana variants > are easily converted. > > Don > > --- CRABBE Heidi S wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone recommend a medium format camera (6x6) > > that's simple to convert to pinhole? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Heidi It is blasphemy. Shame for the Dianas. Better use a Lubitel. Guillermo has quite a good description how to do so. It's so easy that even I succeded. Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD2003
"Rauch, Shelley" wrote: > > I echo this statement with wholehearted enthusiasm. Due to working on > finals, up until the last minute, I wasn't able to participate this year. :( > But I've so far enjoyed seeing what was done across the world- bravo! > > Shelley Shelley, I think you didn't get Rosanne's earlier posting. This is a technical discussion and not a chat box. Sorry for being rude, Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 6x9 camera conversion
Forget also the second link to the Billy, was wrong. Here comes the good one: http://users.pandora.be/taco/pinholes/billy.html Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 6x9 camera conversion
Forget the first link to the Billy, was wrong. Here comes the good one: > Wally & Wolfgang Thoma-Schuermans wrote: > I went even further: I broke the shutter out .. http://www.users.pandora.be/taco/pinholes/billy.html Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 6x9 camera conversion
I went even further: I broke the shutter out and glued a pinhole in the place. From the outside it still looks like a Billy with all the stuff (distance, time, focus) but nothing works. With a small pinhole and Tmax 100 the exposing times are so long that it's enough to open the bellow just a little bit, quickly put your finger on top of the pinhole, open the bellow completely, take your finger away and after exposure do the same operation back. Exposure times vary between 20 and 120 seconds, so you have time enough. example shots can be found on http://www.users.pandora.be/pinholes/billy.html Taco "D. Hill" wrote: > > Murray, > > Congratulations - the billy record is a great camera > to modify. I received one from my grandpa that was in > horrible shape. I lobbed off the front, and taped a > board across the face making a superwide 40mm 6x9. > > You can remove the lens by partial dissasembly of the > shutter (I believe you can get to the lens from the > back of the shutter) - or for a quick fix lay the > front on a hard surface and just smash the lens with > hammer and nail - just be careful when you relieve > your aggressions. > > Don > > --- Uptown Gallery wrote: > > Hello: > > > > I picked up an Agfa Ventura 69 folder. The lens is > > filthy and shutter is > > stiff and maybe worse than just that. > > > > I would like to get it off for two purposes - > > Pinhole 6x9 of course, and to > > battle the lens/shutter if possible. > > > > I am puzzled abotu how to remove it - any experience > > with this? > > > > It's supposedly the same as an Agfa Billy Record > > (What a weird > > name!)...Vario shutter, 105 mm f/6.3 Agnar lens. > > > > Thank you > > > > Murray
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates & pinhole sieves
Guillermo wrote: > > I have 2 Lubitels fitted with ZP (one) and Pinhole Sieve (other one), if you > mount the ZP or Sieve in th eplace of the rear glass element, you'd get a > 65mm focal length, they work very nice for me. I have a third Lubitel that > I will turn into a 65mm Pinhole camera to complement my Agfa 6X6 converted > to 35mm pinhole. For ZP and Sieve, a shutter is almost a must (it is for me > anyway) and you can still use the shutter of the Lubitel. I haven't used a > P67. Very interesting. I have a Lubitel myself (bought in a second hand shop in Prague for 10 USD) that I wanted to use for "serious" 6x6 work, but it leaks light like hell, so why not transform it. Can you give me details (how to open the lens) etc. Can I still use the shutter? greetings, Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] The panopin
CJ Rumpolo wrote: > > Hi, and a happy holiday to all. I was wondering, since I am pretty much a > newbie at pinholing, and I am enjoying each moment so far, has anyone had > experience with the panopin camera? I am thinking about getting one though I > am still designing one of my own (the fun part for myself), I just do not > have an idea on how to get the film advance mechanism to work. Also just how > do paper negatives compare to film negatives? If the paper negatives are > just as good then I can forego the film advance mechanism. What do you mean with panopin? 360 degrees or just "elongated"? If it's the lasr one, a suggestion: a)transform a Holga 120S into a pinhole camera (enough links one the net) and then: b)load her with 35 mm film! See http://www.theverb.com/holga/modification.htm or Kim Taylor who did the same with a Lubitel 166 http://www.toycamera.com/KTaylor/index.html If you are satisfied with 180 degrees, have a look on this page and scroll down till "Marina Klein Willebroek" http://users.pandora.be/taco/pinholes/mypinholes.html Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Brazilian pinhole photographers
Sylvia Sanchez wrote: > > Hi. I'm Sylvia and I work for ImageMagica, a NGO which uses pinhole with > social purposes. We teach poor young > guys to take pictures with the pinhole technique. And that is our way to lead > them to a critical vision of their own > social, cultural and ambiental environment. This is the first step for them > to change their hard lives. > > We are looking for other people (and/ or organizations), here in Brazil, who > already work with pinhole > (professionaly or not). So, if you are a pinhole photographer, please do > contact me (by replying to this email - or > sendind an email to ssanc...@imagemagica.org). > > Besides that, if anyone around the world knows about any other organizations > that work in a way close to ours, > we would be very glad to know that too. Maybe we could change experiences and > images. > > Thanks > Sylvia Sanchez > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ Have a look on this one http://www.latamagica.art.br/ taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] working on a new camera
Aaron, Can I have more details? Size of the global negative, size of the 16 small pics, diameter of the pinholes etc Wolfgang >aaron wrote: > > posted two pictures in the upload gallery. the camera is made from a > cigar box, divided into 16 chambers, each with it's own pinhole. been > taking sequential pictures with it so far. would like to find an > efficient shutter mechanism that automated that... so far the best i can > figure is a dark slide kinda thing. right now i'm just using gaffer's > tape. > > /aaron > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Re: Parliament camara obscura
Marcelo, you forgot something: THE SHUTTER!!! (to let not to much light in) Imagine that they will see too much of the real world, they will get crazy. Wolfgang
