[pinhole-discussion] new home needed for Pinhole Discussion List
Dear friends, Over the next few weeks I will be scaling back the Pinhole Visions web site. As part of the change, I have decided to find a new home for this discussion list. James Kellar started the original pinhole discussion list about 7 years ago. The list moved to Pinhole Visions a year or so after that. It has been a pleasure and a privilege to have provided the space for the list since then, and to have helped James on the technical side of maintaining the list. Thanks also to Guy Glorieux for helping as a moderator the past couple of years. I am looking for someone to take over responsibility for moving the list to a new server and serving as the new list owner. James and Guy and I have all three decided that it is time for some "new blood" to manage the list. So, none of us will continue on as moderators. Ideally, I would like to see the list move to another non-commercial list server. This might be a "listserv" on a university server, or someone else with web service that includes an ad-free list server. This list runs under "Mailman" software. If anyone has knowledge of Mailman and is interested in hosting the list, that would probably be the easiest transition. I will leave it to the list members to decide where to move to, and will work with the new list owner to make the transition. I will keep a copy of the archive, and will work with someone to move that also, if desired. best wishes to everyone, and "keep on pinholin'" Gregg Kemp
Re: [pinhole-discussion] swap + reminder
Jean, + other PS4 swappers, Do not worry ; you have not missed anything and your wish has been realized... I've sent all participants a message this morning about it ! and a Reminder to all PS4 participants : please do not use the pinhole discussion list for our swap discussions; post directly to the coordinators and/or other participants (you've got the complete directory some weeks ago...). By advance thanks for thus respecting the general pinhole-list users ;-) Cheers from France, jean daubas, PS4 coordinator - Original Message - From: "Jean Hanson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] swap > Hi People. What is happening with the Feb. swap? Do we have a deadline? > Are the groups chosen? Have I missed something? I was hoping to be in > the Alt.Proc group. Thanks, Jean
[pinhole-discussion] swap
Hi People. What is happening with the Feb. swap? Do we have a deadline? Are the groups chosen? Have I missed something? I was hoping to be in the Alt.Proc group. Thanks, Jean
[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Visions/Pinhole Day Web Sites In PDN Journal
I just added this story to the Pinhole Visions web site: [Jan 13, 2004] The January 2004 issue of the PDN (Photo District News) includes a small write-up by Nancy Scott about the Pinhole Visions web site and the Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day. Featured in the article are pinhole artist Ed Levinson, web site founder Gregg Kemp, and pinhole discussion list founder James Kellar. The article is on page 60, and mis-titled "The Mirrored City". The discussion list gets into the PDN! - Gregg
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: camera swap
I too think the camera swap would be an interesting project. The thing I enjoy the most is creating new cameras and seeing the images made by others and always wondering about their cameras. I would be interested in participating but would prefer to wait until the PS4 Swap is done in February, which I am helping coordinate. But if that isn't possible I'll try it next time. Sounds like an adventure! Take Care, Chuck Flagg -Original Message----- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Jim & Kathy Blodgett Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:53 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: camera swap "Camera swap"? Did someone say "camera swap" maybe an ongoing rotation? That's a GREAT idea! Count me in. I have a bunch of different cameras - that's one of my favorite things about pinhole work, coming up with new cameras. So what do you think...maybe use each camera for two weeks, then send it to the next person on the list? Maybe just set up the list like the one for the recent New Year exchange? Just join the list by a certain date, then everyone mail a camera to the person after you on the list on a certain date, then every two weeks after that? Be easy enough to organise, huh? Man oh man, I'm likin' the sounds of this. hope this doesn't fizzle. Even if just a few people want to do it it could work. Waiting on the edge of my chair - Jim
[pinhole-discussion] Re: camera swap
"Camera swap"? Did someone say "camera swap" maybe an ongoing rotation? That's a GREAT idea! Count me in. I have a bunch of different cameras - that's one of my favorite things about pinhole work, coming up with new cameras. So what do you think...maybe use each camera for two weeks, then send it to the next person on the list? Maybe just set up the list like the one for the recent New Year exchange? Just join the list by a certain date, then everyone mail a camera to the person after you on the list on a certain date, then every two weeks after that? Be easy enough to organise, huh? Man oh man, I'm likin' the sounds of this. hope this doesn't fizzle. Even if just a few people want to do it it could work. Waiting on the edge of my chair - Jim
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Postcard Reprieve
Hi all ! Being a procrastinator among the procrastinators... Plenty of wonderful and surprising pictures received these last weeks. Thanks to all of you for your cards and the kind words coming with them. Be sure you will get mine in 2004; a first bunch of them is almost ready and will go in the next days; the second part will soon follow! Unfortunately, the last period has been an unhappy one for me with several heavy concerns and I could not find enough time and mind freedom to work on the Holiday Pinhole Swap in 2003 .. But ,never mind, some of you will be happy to get pinhole postcards, even some time after new year ! Once again , all my thanks to all those who expressed me their sympathy from all places of the world! I really enjoy all these tiny images, which I exhibited on one of my walls ! Cheers from France Jean - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Postcard Reprieve > I am one of the offenders. My cards will be postmarked by the new years. I apologize for the lateness but I've been traveling for work most most of the last two months. I really enjoyed receiving the beautiful cards in the mail so far. Thank you everyone for your work and artistry. > > Thom Mitchell > Providence, RI USA
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Join SLOW VISION
Thanks for this link, Chris; neither did'nt found it... marinoel Le dimanche, 11 jan 2004, à 08:01 Europe/Paris, Pinhole Blender a écrit : If you do a search for slow vision on the events page you can find it or use this link. http://www.???/events/index.php?event=662 -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Join SLOW VISION
If you do a search for slow vision on the events page you can find it or use this link. http://www.???/events/index.php?event=662 -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com > Original Message > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Join SLOW VISION > From: "Kate Mahoney2" > Date: Sat, January 10, 2004 10:19 pm > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > I don't see this in the events list - is it up? > - Original Message - > From: "Alf Chr. Samuelsen" > To: "pinholedisc." > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:54 PM > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Join SLOW VISION > > > > Dear Pinholers > > > > Join SLOW VISION with a Pinhole Postcard. > > > > Your photo(s) will be presented at the international > pinhole-exhibition > > SLOW VISION - in Lofoten at the North Norwegian Artist Centre, > > 25th of april to 21th of may 2004, and on the following tour. > > > > Read about SLOW VISION at Pinhole Visions EVENTS. > > > > All The Best > > Alf Christian Samuelsen > > Lofoten in Norway > > > > > > ___ > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Join SLOW VISION
I don't see this in the events list - is it up? - Original Message - From: "Alf Chr. Samuelsen" To: "pinholedisc." Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Join SLOW VISION > Dear Pinholers > > Join SLOW VISION with a Pinhole Postcard. > > Your photo(s) will be presented at the international pinhole-exhibition > SLOW VISION - in Lofoten at the North Norwegian Artist Centre, > 25th of april to 21th of may 2004, and on the following tour. > > Read about SLOW VISION at Pinhole Visions EVENTS. > > All The Best > Alf Christian Samuelsen > Lofoten in Norway > > > ___________ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Postcard Reprieve
I am one of the offenders. My cards will be postmarked by the new years. I apologize for the lateness but I've been traveling for work most most of the last two months. I really enjoyed receiving the beautiful cards in the mail so far. Thank you everyone for your work and artistry. Thom Mitchell Providence, RI USA -Original Message- From: Chrome Dome Sent: Jan 8, 2004 10:15 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Postcard Reprieve It is not too late to get those card off and so far none were posted late. January 22,2004 begins the Year of the Monkey. This Chinese New Year's Day initiates the year 4701. I enjoyed everyone's cards and look forward to those still trickling in. Mike Atwell Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Postcard Reprieve
It is not too late to get those card off and so far none were posted late. January 22,2004 begins the Year of the Monkey. This Chinese New Year's Day initiates the year 4701. I enjoyed everyone's cards and look forward to those still trickling in. Mike Atwell Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005
Re: [pinhole-discussion] camera swap
COUNT ME IN...MICKEY
RE: [pinhole-discussion] camera swap
I have also enjoyed the images I've received each year doing this swap. An idea for a project came to mind while reading Jan and Marcy's emails. A swap for all seasons and a camera swap. Not a camera swap where we make a camera for each participant but a circle of pinholes all trading a camera to the next on the list. We use the camera for a certain period of time, say a month, and then mail it to the next person in line. Of course with a circle of swappers the last one mails it to the first one on the list and everyone gets a new camera to try. When you get back your original camera your done. I don't know how it would work with an image swap. If you had 12 participants each using 12 different cameras and mailing out to the other participants you would need to make 144 prints. Maybe a web page would be better showcase. It would be fun to get a different camera each month for a year and it might make an interesting web gallery to boot. Chris Peregoy -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com > Original Message ---- > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New Year 2004 postcard swap - curious... > From: "Marcy Merrill" > Date: Thu, January 08, 2004 1:33 pm > To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > I,too, have completely enjoyed this latest pinhole swap. I'm curious > about > two of the images I received (coincidentally both are from Germany). > Bernd > Heinzel's photo "Beast on the beach" looks like something I might have > taken... only better. Bernd, what did you use to take the photo? > Also, Klaus Ahlemeyer's New Zealand landscape ... love the intensity of > the > color! Again, what did you use? > > Hey! Maybe next time we ought to do a camera swap? The logistics might > be a > bit overwhelming though. > -MM > > Marcy Merrill > www.JunkStoreCameras.com > > > > _______ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] New Year 2004 postcard swap - curious...
I,too, have completely enjoyed this latest pinhole swap. I'm curious about two of the images I received (coincidentally both are from Germany). Bernd Heinzel's photo "Beast on the beach" looks like something I might have taken... only better. Bernd, what did you use to take the photo? Also, Klaus Ahlemeyer's New Zealand landscape ... love the intensity of the color! Again, what did you use? Hey! Maybe next time we ought to do a camera swap? The logistics might be a bit overwhelming though. -MM Marcy Merrill www.JunkStoreCameras.com
[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Postcards
Hi all-- It will be very sad when there are no more postcards to be found in the mailbox! Can we make this a seasonal thing? Winter, spring summer, fall . . . ?? :-) Just kidding (I think). It's been fun! Jan -- Fine art photography by Jan Kapoor at www.jankapoor.net Pinhole, large format, alternative printing processes and digital imagery
Re: [pinhole-discussion] no more pinhole cards
> > Well, December has come and gone, and I guess except for a few late > > arrivals, I won't be getting many more pinhole cards from you folks. > > My dear Jim...Never say never. Just when you think no more pinhole cards, > >poof< ... another will arrive. Like mine. > Rosanne and mine. Chris Ellinger Ann Arbor, MI USA
Re: [pinhole-discussion] no more pinhole cards
ethereal art wrote: From: "Jim & Kathy Blodgett" Well, December has come and gone, and I guess except for a few late arrivals, I won't be getting many more pinhole cards from you folks. My dear Jim...Never say never. Just when you think no more pinhole cards, poof ... another will arrive. Like mine. And mine... There was a mix up at the Post Office and they didn't inform me that they'd got a package for me. They only got the package on the 12th December and it took numerous phone calls from me to track it down. So 26 lucky people should hopefully have something dropping through their doors in the not to distant future... Cheers, -- Bobhttp://www.bobarnott.com/ "Lager is an imitation Continental beer drunk only by refined ladies, people with digestive ailments, tourists, and other weaklings." - Munchen Süddeutsche Zeitung
[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Camera Mook in Japan
Gakken, Tokyo Japan, sells "Otona no Kagaku" magazine (Science for Adults). Sold in Japan. The #3 issue of the book dedicated to Pinhole Camera. It is a set of a magazine and appedices. Appedices are a kit of camera with pinhole and lens, sheet films, and development kit. Price is 1680 Yen (15 USD). If you have been interested in, go to URI:http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/magazine/ - Masaru
[pinhole-discussion] no more pinhole cards
> From: "Jim & Kathy Blodgett" > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:46:26 -0800 > To: > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 2003-2004 pinhole exchange > > Well, December has come and gone, and I guess except for a few late > arrivals, I won't be getting many more pinhole cards from you folks. My dear Jim...Never say never. Just when you think no more pinhole cards, >poof< ... another will arrive. Like mine. Rosanne
[pinhole-discussion] giclee by any other name inks, paper etc
It's the ink & 'substrate' (paper, canvas, whatever) match that is of primary concern for lightfastness. Ink and printer match is probably important too for whatever technical requirements the particular ink delivery system uses (viscosity, fluid dynamics, etc). Skimping on either isn't a good idea. The longevity claims also depend on proper environment. Even UV-filtering glass or acrylic don't guarantee fading will never happen - they slow it down tremendously, but there is enough blue and violet in visible light that it contributes to fading to a lesser degree than UV. UV- filtering acrylic cuts off at 400 nm, vs UV filtering glass at 380 nm (acrylic filters further into the visible range, barely, hence the 98% UV filtering claims vs 97+ for typical UVF framing glass. Murray
[pinhole-discussion] Join SLOW VISION
Dear Pinholers Join SLOW VISION with a Pinhole Postcard. Your photo(s) will be presented at the international pinhole-exhibition SLOW VISION - in Lofoten at the North Norwegian Artist Centre, 25th of april to 21th of may 2004, and on the following tour. Read about SLOW VISION at Pinhole Visions EVENTS. All The Best Alf Christian Samuelsen Lofoten in Norway
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 2003-2004 pinhole exchange
Well, I guess I'm one of those procrastinator's. I couldn't remember if we were supposed to send them by a certain date, but I figured better late than never! Mine are going out to everyone on the list in the next few days. I've really enjoyed getting all of the cards. -- Traci Bunkers Bonkers Handmade Originals http://www.bonkersfiber.com > From: "Jim & Kathy Blodgett" > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:46:26 -0800 > To: > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 2003-2004 pinhole exchange > > Well, December has come and gone, and I guess except for a few late > arrivals, I won't be getting many more pinhole cards from you folks. I just > wanted to thank all of you who did send. I looked forward to checking the > mail and looking at each photo, from Marcy's beautiful day early card to > Chris Pergaroy's "Blended Christmas" which was the last that came. > > Thanks you all very much, it has been inspiring. I am really looking > forward to the February exchange. > > Keep pinholing - Jim > > > _______ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] A New Year: Another Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day
Dear All, With Christmas and New Year's past, and our minds returning to pinhole photography, I better write this now, before I forget or it gets too far past the holidays! This is a reminder that the coordinators of the fourth Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day are busy preparing for this upcoming major global festival. It will be the traditional last Sunday in April; the next one will be April 25, 2004. Anyone, anywhere in the world, who makes a pinhole photograph on Pinhole Day, can scan the image and upload it to the www.pinholeday.org website where it will become part of this premier gallery of lenless photography. Last year, 1082 participants from 42 countries contributed images to the WPPD 2003 Gallery. Over 70 events - workshops, exhibits, lectures, etc. - were held throughout the world. All of these events were coordinated by volunteers. If you don't have this celebration marked on your calendar please do it soon! Join the world in this joyous celebration of simple photography. Watch the www.pinholeday.org website for more information. HOW YOU CAN HELP... - We are looking for help with our publicity efforts in various countries and regions. These local or regional coordinators would be part of the team that our Publicity Coordinator, Paolo Aldi, is assembling to spread the word about our sublime yet joyously wacky annual pinhole exhibit. Mostly this would be emails to publications, schools, galleries, etc, in your area. If you would like to help with this effort, please contact pa...@pinholeday.org. - If you'd like to organize an event, such as a workshop, lecture or a photo "shoot", you can add it to the events calendar at www.pinholeday.org/events or contact eve...@pinholeday.org. - If you are a teacher, you can participate in WPPD in a couple of different ways. First, your class can participate as a group. To do this, enter your class's participation as an event at http://www.pinholeday.org/events/addevent.php. Choose "classroom" as the type of event. Your class will be listed as a "group" in the gallery. When your class is selected from the group list, it will create a virtual exhibit of your students' work. Second, Rosanne Stutts, our Education Coordinator, faciliates an online discussion for teachers at http://www.???/forum/viewforum.php?f=30. If you would like to become part of this discussion, please contact Rosanne at rosa...@pinholeday.org. - If you are a graphic designer... we're interested in suggestions for a new, or alternative, logos. Please submit your ideas to gr...@pinholeday.org. Another major holiday is in the works for April 25, 2004! Many thanks, Tom Miller WPPD 2004 Coordinating Team Leader
RE: [pinhole-discussion] 2003-2004 pinhole exchange
I'll second (and third, for that matter) everyones feelings on the Holiday pinhole swap. Once again, I am impressed, humbled and motivated to do more with my photography. As always, I'm looking forward to seeing more work from everyone and creating more of my own to be seen. BTW, my last card batch went out on Dec. 31 (I mailed to the entire swap list as I had it so it took a little while to finish), so *technically*, I was within the spirit of the swap. Next year, December 1st, I promise (right, Marcy?). Keep pinholing in '04, David Walters, S. FL, USA
[pinhole-discussion] fading epson prints
I have been reading about this problem and from what I have gleaned from the Wilhelm site, the ink and paper are "sets" and fading can occur quite rapidly if you do not use the paper designed to go with the inks for a particular printer no matter which one it is. Hope this helps. Claudia
RE: [pinhole-discussion] 2003-2004 pinhole exchange
Well some of us procrastinators mailed ours after Christmas! But before 12-31 ;-) Thank you for all the cards I have received also. Really great images by all. My last one was from Mike Vaughan. Looking forward to the PS4 swap coming soon! Have a great New Year one and all! Take Care, Chuck Flagg
[pinhole-discussion] Natalie from holiday card exchange
Natalie, Please contact me directly. I received your envelope enclosed holiday card with no identification other than your signature and well wishing. You weren't on the list and I wish to send you a card. Mike Atwell Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005
[pinhole-discussion] 2004
Happy new year for all pinholers ! I'm so glad with this swap, that i'm expecting the next one ! What et when ? kisses from Paris marinoel
[pinhole-discussion] 2003-2004 pinhole exchange
Well, December has come and gone, and I guess except for a few late arrivals, I won't be getting many more pinhole cards from you folks. I just wanted to thank all of you who did send. I looked forward to checking the mail and looking at each photo, from Marcy's beautiful day early card to Chris Pergaroy's "Blended Christmas" which was the last that came. Thanks you all very much, it has been inspiring. I am really looking forward to the February exchange. Keep pinholing - Jim
[pinhole-discussion] list policies & rules
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
I use to... couldn't handle all the mail. thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:37 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! A bit of fine tuning should do itI read, read, read and read more.do you belong to the alt-photo list There is lots of printer/ink discussion there. Cheers Kate - Original Message - From: "andy schmitt" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 4:36 AM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! > Hopefully the "newer" inks will turn out better... > Now if I can get the 2200p prints to have the same color as the 1280 prints > I would be home free (at least for now). > Thanks > andy > > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 5:29 AM > > Epson C40UX, Epson Inks, Ilford photosilk as far as I can remember...the > printer was still under warranty so the standard inks were in it - I was > quite surprised it was so quickthe photo is on my dressing-table, well > away from windows. > - Original Message - > From: "andy schmitt" > > > Which printer/paper & were they Epson inks? > > thanks > > andy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:49 PM > > > > I have a photo printed out in standard Epson inks from a year ago which is > > never in direct light - it has faded away to green tones already. > > this is on high quality photo paper too, btw. While on the subject of > > archivality (?), paper is really important here. I print "good" prints on > > high quality acid free watercolour paper. > > Kate > > > > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > > ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
A bit of fine tuning should do itI read, read, read and read more.do you belong to the alt-photo list There is lots of printer/ink discussion there. Cheers Kate - Original Message - From: "andy schmitt" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 4:36 AM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! > Hopefully the "newer" inks will turn out better... > Now if I can get the 2200p prints to have the same color as the 1280 prints > I would be home free (at least for now). > Thanks > andy > > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 5:29 AM > > Epson C40UX, Epson Inks, Ilford photosilk as far as I can remember...the > printer was still under warranty so the standard inks were in it - I was > quite surprised it was so quickthe photo is on my dressing-table, well > away from windows. > - Original Message - > From: "andy schmitt" > > > Which printer/paper & were they Epson inks? > > thanks > > andy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:49 PM > > > > I have a photo printed out in standard Epson inks from a year ago which is > > never in direct light - it has faded away to green tones already. > > this is on high quality photo paper too, btw. While on the subject of > > archivality (?), paper is really important here. I print "good" prints on > > high quality acid free watercolour paper. > > Kate > > > > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > >
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Hopefully the "newer" inks will turn out better... Now if I can get the 2200p prints to have the same color as the 1280 prints I would be home free (at least for now). Thanks andy -Original Message----- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 5:29 AM Epson C40UX, Epson Inks, Ilford photosilk as far as I can remember...the printer was still under warranty so the standard inks were in it - I was quite surprised it was so quickthe photo is on my dressing-table, well away from windows. - Original Message - From: "andy schmitt" > Which printer/paper & were they Epson inks? > thanks > andy > > -----Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:49 PM > > I have a photo printed out in standard Epson inks from a year ago which is > never in direct light - it has faded away to green tones already. > this is on high quality photo paper too, btw. While on the subject of > archivality (?), paper is really important here. I print "good" prints on > high quality acid free watercolour paper. > Kate > >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Epson C40UX, Epson Inks, Ilford photosilk as far as I can remember...the printer was still under warranty so the standard inks were in it - I was quite surprised it was so quickthe photo is on my dressing-table, well away from windows. - Original Message - From: "andy schmitt" To: Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! > Which printer/paper & were they Epson inks? > thanks > andy > > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:49 PM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a > Pinholer! > > > I have a photo printed out in standard Epson inks from a year ago which is > never in direct light - it has faded away to green tones already. > this is on high quality photo paper too, btw. While on the subject of > archivality (?), paper is really important here. I print "good" prints on > high quality acid free watercolour paper. > Kate > > > ___________ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > >
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Which printer/paper & were they Epson inks? thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kate Mahoney2 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:49 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! I have a photo printed out in standard Epson inks from a year ago which is never in direct light - it has faded away to green tones already. this is on high quality photo paper too, btw. While on the subject of archivality (?), paper is really important here. I print "good" prints on high quality acid free watercolour paper. Kate
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
I have a photo printed out in standard Epson inks from a year ago which is never in direct light - it has faded away to green tones already. this is on high quality photo paper too, btw. While on the subject of archivality (?), paper is really important here. I print "good" prints on high quality acid free watercolour paper. Kate - Original Message - From: "ellis CORY" To: Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! > From: "andy schmitt" > Besides in 50 years... I'll be dead... > no refunds after artist is dead. > > The 'archival' is mainly for future family members and historians. We still > have photos from the birth of photography, yet many from the birth of > digital have already faded away and it is rare to find the hardware to > accept the storage medium. > I have old photos of my family, I assume future generations will want to see > ours, that is why I always suggest that someone takes a picture of the > family photographer, they are often overlooked !!! > Ellis > > > > ___________ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > >
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From: "andy schmitt" Besides in 50 years... I'll be dead... no refunds after artist is dead. The 'archival' is mainly for future family members and historians. We still have photos from the birth of photography, yet many from the birth of digital have already faded away and it is rare to find the hardware to accept the storage medium. I have old photos of my family, I assume future generations will want to see ours, that is why I always suggest that someone takes a picture of the family photographer, they are often overlooked !!! Ellis
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Here is a link to the "gold standard" of archival testing: http://www.wilhelm-research.com/, for those inclined to delve into the matter in depth. > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of andy schmitt > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:10 PM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a > Pinholer! > > > I always love this discussion of "archival". If you are silly > enough to > leave a photograph in direct sunlight for years on end, you > deserve to have > it fade. There is quite a difference between diffused light & > day light. I > have a photograph I mounted on a piece of plywood for a > "floating mount" > back in the 70's. It's still very comparable to the chrome > today. There is > no varnish or poly coating over it, but it isn't kept in daylight. > It will be interesting to see exactly what happens to these > various types of > inks on the various papers under differing conditions of pollution & > humidity... > > Besides in 50 years... I'll be dead... > > no refunds after artist is dead.. > 8o) > > andy > > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of ellis CORY > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:07 PM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a > Pinholer! > > > From: "Kate > Fancy way of saying "inkjet print"-hehehe > > No, ordinary inkjet will probably only last on display in > daylight for about > 10 years, archival pigment print > is supposed to last for 80-100 years, hence the 'archival' note. I > understand this was to rival silver prints, whic last longer any way. > Hope this helps. > Ellis > Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment > print"??? > Taco > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
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I always love this discussion of "archival". If you are silly enough to leave a photograph in direct sunlight for years on end, you deserve to have it fade. There is quite a difference between diffused light & day light. I have a photograph I mounted on a piece of plywood for a "floating mount" back in the 70's. It's still very comparable to the chrome today. There is no varnish or poly coating over it, but it isn't kept in daylight. It will be interesting to see exactly what happens to these various types of inks on the various papers under differing conditions of pollution & humidity... Besides in 50 years... I'll be dead... no refunds after artist is dead.. 8o) andy -----Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of ellis CORY Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:07 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! From: "Kate Fancy way of saying "inkjet print"-hehehe No, ordinary inkjet will probably only last on display in daylight for about 10 years, archival pigment print is supposed to last for 80-100 years, hence the 'archival' note. I understand this was to rival silver prints, whic last longer any way. Hope this helps. Ellis Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment print"??? Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
From: "Kate Fancy way of saying "inkjet print"-hehehe No, ordinary inkjet will probably only last on display in daylight for about 10 years, archival pigment print is supposed to last for 80-100 years, hence the 'archival' note. I understand this was to rival silver prints, whic last longer any way. Hope this helps. Ellis Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment print"??? Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
I was looking at some of these and wondered if they were slit-scan shots - what do others think?? Kate Mahoney (novice pinholer) - Original Message - From: "Michael Heath" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! > The current Vanity Fair issue has an interesting article on actor Viggo > Mortensen and his artistic pursuits, which include photography and painting. > Looking up his work at, among other places, the Robert Mann Gallery, I was > pleased to see that Mortensen is not only a talented photographer, but > indeed a pinholer. We'll need to sign him up for Pinhole Day 2004. > > http://www.robertmanngallery.com/artists/mortensen/thumbnail_01.html > > Mike > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > _______ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > >
[pinhole-discussion] RE: Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Taco, There are other sites that specifically mention his work as being pinhole. Here's one: http://www.houseoftelcontar.com/news/report050603_fl.html The second interesting revelation about Mortensen (for me, anyway) from Vanity Fair is that he was married to Exene Cervenka of the punk band X - a band I admired greatly during my teens in L.A. Mike _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Where is the proof that darkroom printed work is not altered. Many photographers have embraced Photoshop and inkjet printing in order to make straight prints, scanning the negative and using PS to color correct just as one would do in the color darkroom. With Photoshop and a good pigment printer a photographer can have complete control over their processes with less cost and mess of a color darkroom and processor. The difference between any old inkjet print and and archival pigment print is the use of pigments instead of dyes which last longer then an Ilfochrome or C print. -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com > Original Message > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a > Pinholer! > From: "Wolfgang Thoma" > Date: Sat, December 27, 2003 3:32 pm > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > Thanks for the info, I had a look on it in the meantime. But: Even if > Viggo is a good photographer, as the shots are all printed with an > Epson > Printer, that means that they are probably treated, (I imagine using > Paintshop Pro or Photoshop or something similar) and if only to resize > > or something similar WHERE IS THE PROOVE that they are pinholes and not > > just "mishandled". > Taco > > > > Pinhole Blender wrote: > > >Taco, > >Archival Pigment Prints is another name for pigment Inkjet such as > Epsons archival pigment printers. It has come about to differentiate > from Geclee which means sprayed on ink. The prints from the Epson 2200, > 7600 or 9600 are considered archival in that they should last at least > 80 years. > > > >I say Viggo Mortensen's work in a magazine called Juxtapose last > month, I'll have to go out and get Vanity Fair, I like his style. > > > >Chris > > > > > >> Original Message ---- > >>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a > Pinholer! > >>From: "Wolfgang Thoma" > >>Date: Sat, December 27, 2003 6:44 am > >>To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > >> > >>Michael Heath wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>The current Vanity Fair issue has an interesting article on actor > >>>Viggo Mortensen and his artistic pursuits, which include > photography > >>> > >>> > >>>http://www.robertmanngallery.com/artists/mortensen/thumbnail_01.html > >>> > >>>Mike > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment > >>print"??? > >>Taco > >> > >> > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Thanks for the info, I had a look on it in the meantime. But: Even if Viggo is a good photographer, as the shots are all printed with an Epson Printer, that means that they are probably treated, (I imagine using Paintshop Pro or Photoshop or something similar) and if only to resize or something similar WHERE IS THE PROOVE that they are pinholes and not just "mishandled". Taco Pinhole Blender wrote: Taco, Archival Pigment Prints is another name for pigment Inkjet such as Epsons archival pigment printers. It has come about to differentiate from Geclee which means sprayed on ink. The prints from the Epson 2200, 7600 or 9600 are considered archival in that they should last at least 80 years. I say Viggo Mortensen's work in a magazine called Juxtapose last month, I'll have to go out and get Vanity Fair, I like his style. Chris Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! From: "Wolfgang Thoma" Date: Sat, December 27, 2003 6:44 am To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Michael Heath wrote: The current Vanity Fair issue has an interesting article on actor Viggo Mortensen and his artistic pursuits, which include photography http://www.robertmanngallery.com/artists/mortensen/thumbnail_01.html Mike Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment print"??? Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Fancy way of saying "inkjet print"-hehehe Kate Mahoney - Original Message - From: "Wolfgang Thoma" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer! > Michael Heath wrote: > > > The current Vanity Fair issue has an interesting article on actor > > Viggo Mortensen and his artistic pursuits, which include photography > > and painting. Looking up his work at, among other places, the Robert > > Mann Gallery, I was pleased to see that Mortensen is not only a > > talented photographer, but indeed a pinholer. We'll need to sign him > > up for Pinhole Day 2004. > > > > http://www.robertmanngallery.com/artists/mortensen/thumbnail_01.html > > > > Mike > > > Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment > print"??? > Taco > > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > >
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Taco, Archival Pigment Prints is another name for pigment Inkjet such as Epsons archival pigment printers. It has come about to differentiate from Geclee which means sprayed on ink. The prints from the Epson 2200, 7600 or 9600 are considered archival in that they should last at least 80 years. I say Viggo Mortensen's work in a magazine called Juxtapose last month, I'll have to go out and get Vanity Fair, I like his style. Chris -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com > Original Message > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a > Pinholer! > From: "Wolfgang Thoma" > Date: Sat, December 27, 2003 6:44 am > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > Michael Heath wrote: > > > The current Vanity Fair issue has an interesting article on actor > > Viggo Mortensen and his artistic pursuits, which include photography > > > and painting. Looking up his work at, among other places, the Robert > > > Mann Gallery, I was pleased to see that Mortensen is not only a > > talented photographer, but indeed a pinholer. We'll need to sign him > > > up for Pinhole Day 2004. > > > > http://www.robertmanngallery.com/artists/mortensen/thumbnail_01.html > > > > Mike > > > Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment > print"??? > Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
Michael Heath wrote: The current Vanity Fair issue has an interesting article on actor Viggo Mortensen and his artistic pursuits, which include photography and painting. Looking up his work at, among other places, the Robert Mann Gallery, I was pleased to see that Mortensen is not only a talented photographer, but indeed a pinholer. We'll need to sign him up for Pinhole Day 2004. http://www.robertmanngallery.com/artists/mortensen/thumbnail_01.html Mike Nice shots on this URL, but help needed: What is a "archival pigment print"??? Taco
[pinhole-discussion] Return of the King's Aragorn a Pinholer!
The current Vanity Fair issue has an interesting article on actor Viggo Mortensen and his artistic pursuits, which include photography and painting. Looking up his work at, among other places, the Robert Mann Gallery, I was pleased to see that Mortensen is not only a talented photographer, but indeed a pinholer. We'll need to sign him up for Pinhole Day 2004. http://www.robertmanngallery.com/artists/mortensen/thumbnail_01.html Mike _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Happy Pinholing 2004
Hi Eric-- Thanks! Hope you have a great new year-- Jan Eric wrote: Jan' Just had a look at your web site, fantastic images, gives me inspiration for 2004. Eric -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???] On Behalf Of Jan Kapoor Sent: 25 December 2003 16:53 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Happy Pinholing 2004 Greetings to all my pinhole friends-- Happy Holidays and a wonderful new year full of great pinhole images! Jan -- Fine art photography by Jan Kapoor at www.jankapoor.net Pinhole, large format, alternative printing processes and digital imagery
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Happy Pinholing 2004
Jan' Just had a look at your web site, fantastic images, gives me inspiration for 2004. Eric -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???] On Behalf Of Jan Kapoor Sent: 25 December 2003 16:53 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Happy Pinholing 2004 Greetings to all my pinhole friends-- Happy Holidays and a wonderful new year full of great pinhole images! Jan -- Fine art photography by Jan Kapoor at www.jankapoor.net Pinhole, large format, alternative printing processes and digital imagery ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] silver bearing fixers
Dear Group, News from Kodak: Kodak strongly recommends that you never pour silver-bearing effluents such as used fixers, bleach-fix, or stabilizers down the drain. Rather, you should use on-site or off-site silver-recovery methods for these solutions. SEPTIC SYSTEM/ USED or UNUSED CHEMISTRY Kodak does not recommend the use of septic systems for disposal of photographic processing solutions because the disposal of photographic processing solutions may affect the proper operations of the septic system. Septic systems are used for the disposal of domestic waste, primarily in areas where municipal sewers are unavailable. If you are discharging to a septic system, Kodak recommends you manage your photographic processing effluents off-site. Our J-300 publication, Environmental Guidelines for Amateur Photographers, which is available for downloading on our Kodak Environmental Services website, will provide you with more information on on-site and off-site silver management. This publication and many more are located at www.kodak.com/go/kes. If you are in need of further assistance, or if you have any additional questions, please contact our Environmental Services Line at (585) 477-3194. Also, please visit our Kodak Environmental Services website located at www.kodak.com/go/kes or email us directly at k...@kodak.com. Please find attached our customer survey. Please take a moment to comment on our services. Regards, Carolyn R. Kodak Environmental Services
[pinhole-discussion] Happy Holidays
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! God jul og godt nytt år! Jon Grepstad Norway http://home.online.no/~gjon/
[pinhole-discussion] Happy Holidays
wishing everyone peace and joy during this holiday season. best wishes for a happy and prosperous 2004! thank you for all the wonderful pinhole cards that came my way. heather mirrorproject.com | hchamp.com "When you first see a new picture, you don't want to miss the boat. You have to be very careful. You might be staring at Van Gogh's ear." - Van Gogh Boat, Basquiat soundtrack.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Merry pinhole.
Merry Christmas, Fröhliches Weinachten, Felix Natividad, and Joyeux Noël for all pinholers in the world !!! I thank very much all who sent me pictures for my first participation in a pinhole swap. It is great !!! Marie-Noëlle
[pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas
A Merry Christmas to alland wishing all a great pinhole year. Thanks to all for sharing >From a Canadian pinholer Wanda
[pinhole-discussion] Happy Pinholing 2004
Greetings to all my pinhole friends-- Happy Holidays and a wonderful new year full of great pinhole images! Jan -- Fine art photography by Jan Kapoor at www.jankapoor.net Pinhole, large format, alternative printing processes and digital imagery
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all pinholists all over the planet ! Thanks for the Holidays Swap cards I already received... But it's not finished and some are going away pretty soon... Jean - Original Message - From: "Ingo Günther" To: Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas > Frohe Weihnachten und ein gutes Neues Jahr/ > Merry Christmas and Happy New New Year to all my friends of this great list, > and thank you for all the lovely Christmas-swap-postcards. > > from Oldenburg/Germany > ... Ingo > __ > WEB.DE FreeMail wird 5 Jahre jung! Feiern Sie mit uns und > nutzen Sie die neuen Funktionen http://f.web.de/features/?mc=021130 > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas
A Merry Christmas to Pinholers everywhere, and their patient families, too. May the joy of the season extend throughout the New Year. Tom Miller
[pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
I wish a happy and joyful Christmas and new year to everyone on the list. best regards, - Gregg
[pinhole-discussion] Merry pinhole.
Many thanks to all who sent me wonderfull pinhole pictures. Xmas swap was a great idea. I wish you all a merry Christmas, and a rich pinholing 2004 year. Jean-Marc
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas!
Just to wish everyone in the group, a very Merry Christmas and a Happy picture taking New Year. 'They shall call Him Jesus, because He will save people from their sins'. Ellis
[pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas
Frohe Weihnachten und ein gutes Neues Jahr/ Merry Christmas and Happy New New Year to all my friends of this great list, and thank you for all the lovely Christmas-swap-postcards. from Oldenburg/Germany ... Ingo __ WEB.DE FreeMail wird 5 Jahre jung! Feiern Sie mit uns und nutzen Sie die neuen Funktionen http://f.web.de/features/?mc=021130
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas!
I hope all have a safe and peaceful Christmas and New Year! Thank you one in all for a great year of sharing your passion in pinhole photography. Chuck Flagg
[pinhole-discussion] Happy Holidays
A Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah & a SAFE - Happy New year to all my pinhole friends. regards Andy Schmitt Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons All opinions expressed are mine... Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose Head of Photography, Peters Valley Craft Center
[pinhole-discussion] Happy Holidays
Happy Holidays to every one on the pinhole list. James James Kellar PO Box 8233 Bloomington, Indiana 47407 812-334-4442 m...@jameskellar.com http://www.jameskellar.com
[pinhole-discussion] merry xmas
Joyeux Noel and Merry Xmas to all my friends...Mickey
[pinhole-discussion] Merry Christmas!
Hi all pinholers from the world, I would like to say: Merry Christmas to you all! and Happy New Year! Greetings from Hong Kong Zernike Au
[pinhole-discussion] Update of my pinhole article
Dear list members I have recently updated my pinhole article at http://home.online.no/~gjon/pinhole.htm Dead links have been removed, new links added, and the text has been brought up to date. The article at photo.net will also be updated. I have also added some new pinhole photographs to my web site: http://home.online.no/~gjon/pinhole0.htm Jon Grepstad
[pinhole-discussion] cold developers
I We live in the age of energy; and so , I have a number of waysof keeping developers warm even though it is freezing outside. I bought a "crockpot' for $2.00 from a junkstore. I have a Hot Pot ( and I have boiling water in 2 or 3 miutes), then there are the "Bun Warmers", almost give away items at junkstores here ,..some are very large and heat my 8 x 10 developing tanks to just the right temperature by morning. Best of all, the seed warming matts sold by "Johnnie's Seeds" which heat to about 80 degrees over time; absolutely great for a long line of next-to-use-water-and chemicals and so forth as it is a long mat and heats them all while you sleep. We are living in in a new world, and if you can't get chemicals to the right temperature... look around you.Jean
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues
I was lazy and googled to see if any of the formulas for these developers were online. I found a few references to D8 - Kodak may still carry this developer All of these developers are high energy developers that would create negatives of extreme contrast if developed at room temperature. At low temperatures they behave more like a standard developer. I believe the high pH balances the loss of activity at low temperatures. Another developer to try at low temperatures is D-19 its a high contrast developer. It produces a moderately high contrast - it may produce normal contrast negatives for film processed betweem freezing and room temperature. Only way to find out is to experiment. If you mix any of the developers below be very careful with Sodium Hydroxide Gord From http://rmp.opusis.com/formulae/silvergel/developers/kodak_d8.html Kodak D-8 Developer Water, about 32 Celsius (90 degrees F.) 750 ml Sodium Sulfite, desiccated 90.0 g Hydroquinone 45.0 g Sodium Hydroxide (Caustic Soda) 37.5 g Potassium Bromide 30.0 g Water to make 1.0 liter Dissolve chemicals in the order given. Stir the solution thoroughly before use. For use, take 2 parts of stock solution and 1 part of water. Develop about 2 minutes in a tray at 20 Celsius (68 degrees F.). For general use, a developer which is slightly less alkaline and gives almost as much density can be obtained by using 28 g per liter instead of the quantity given in this formula. From: http://www.fotoinfo.com/info/technicalinfo/undexp.html Kodak D-82 For low temp developing and underexposed negs. Water 52 degrees centigrade 750 cc Methyl Alcohol (Wood)48 cc Metol14 grams Sodium Sulfite, Anhydrous52.5 grams Hydroquinone 14 grams Sodium Hydroxide 8.8 grams Potassium Bromide8.8 grams Cold Water to make 1 liter Dissolve the sodium hydroxide in a small amount cold water. Then pour this into the mixture, after the hydroquinone with rapid agitation. If you pour sodium hydroxide into hot water, an explosive reaction can occur which can cause burning. Tank 6min/20 degrees centigrade. 5min tray. On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, aaron wrote: > thanks everyone for the suggestions and information... > i've been fascinated by Shackleton's journey for years. in part because > of the beautiful photographs (and film) that survived, and in part > because it was an utter failure (a well documented one at least). for > anyone who hasn't seen the film, it is truely amazing, and well worth > seeking out. > > gord, i would greatly appreciate the formulas, or some reference to > where i can find them. it would really be helpful. contact me off list > if you wish: aaron at deadlettertype dot com. thank you once again. > > /aaron > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
[pinhole-discussion] Fwd: Pinhole News, December 18, 2003
There was a recent discussion on anamorphic images a few days ago and I wanted to share this anamorph movie made by Alex Gilham that I just copied up to the Pinhole Visions site earlier this week. Sorry for the double posting to those of you who are also on the "Pinhole News" mailing list. - Gregg Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: news-list@p at ??? From: Pinhole Visions Date: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:15:51 AM US/Eastern To: Pinhole News Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Subject: Pinhole News, December 18, 2003 from the Pinhole Diary... New Sighting: Alex Gilham - Anamorph (pinhole movie) [2003-12-15] A movie created from the images of a anamorphic pinhole camera made from a toilet paper tube. The film was created by Alex Gilham, featuring a soundtrack performed on the guitar by Benjamin Bunch, and edited by Gregg Kemp Read full story at http://www.???/diary/?option=story&id=304 (reported by: Peter Bengsten) = New Resource Listing: Mona Lisa Pinhole/Zone Plate Camera = [2003-12-16] The Pinhole Resource has introduced a new camera, designed by Zephyr Renner and manufactured at Pinhole Resource. This camera features: * folding 4x5 made of oak, basswood and Finnish birch plywood. * 4 pinholes * 3 zone plates * automatic catch/stop at the above mentioned focal lengths * all pinholes and zone plates on a sliding bar * cable release operated shutter * bellows * standard tripod mount Find out more at: http://www.???/resources/index.php?category=Cameras (reported by: Eric Renner) * * * * * * For more news items on pinhole photography, visit the Pinhole Diary at: http://www.???/diary/ If you have a pinhole story of interest, please add it to the Pinhole Diary at: http://www.???/diary/?option=add Your pin pal, Gregg Kemp = Pinhole News subscribers: 593 (12-Dec-2003) Pinhole Diary archive: http://www.p at ???/diary/ To unsubscribe, send an email to news-list-request@p at ??? with the subject "unsubscribe". =
[pinhole-discussion] Sun 600 polaroid pinhole?
Hi everyone! I've been lurking on this list for a while and have learned a lot. Thank you all. I've just been bitten HARD by the pinhole bug and I can't wait to get started! I have a sun 600 polaroid camera that I would love to turn into a pinhole. Can someone point me in the right direction to detailed instructions on how to do this? I've been able to find a lot of information on different polaroids and general ideas on how one might go about doing this, but I really need something more detailed, as this is my first time trying anything like this. I'd really appreciate any feedback or suggestions!Thanks everyone!Mel ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
[pinhole-discussion] Christmas Swap
Hi everyone; Just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed receiving postcards from the Christmas swap, I'm getting 3 or 4 cards a day. Everyone of them unique and very creative. To all who have sent cards my way, a big thank you. This was such a good idea, I'd wish I had joined last year. Happy holidays to all.. Wanda
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues
aaron : > i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold > processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures > than others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below > 68 degrees. winter is here and it would be nice to find a > working alternative to heating chemistry... > Hi Aaron, I don't have personal experience, but "The Darkroom Cookbook" by Stephen G. Anchell has a section on low temp developers (pp. 166-169). A chart on page 167 shows four low temp developers, among which Kodak D-8 looks the simplest. According to the chart, it can develop at 50F in 6 minutes, all the way down to 30F in 18 minutes. hth, Scott -- Scott Sellers| scottsell...@mindspring.com |
[pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues
thanks everyone for the suggestions and information... i've been fascinated by Shackleton's journey for years. in part because of the beautiful photographs (and film) that survived, and in part because it was an utter failure (a well documented one at least). for anyone who hasn't seen the film, it is truely amazing, and well worth seeking out. gord, i would greatly appreciate the formulas, or some reference to where i can find them. it would really be helpful. contact me off list if you wish: aaron at deadlettertype dot com. thank you once again. /aaron
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues
Gordon J. Holtslander wrote: Some can be used at sub-zero temperatures with the addition of alcohol. I was at a lecture long ago about the photographic techniques used by the British Antarctic Survey at the south pole. I half-remember them claiming they had a Kodachrome lab down there, but I find that unlikely. Stewart
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues
Hi: >From my copy of Photographic Facts and Formulas there are three low-temperature developers listed Kodak D-8 Kodak High-energy D 82 Kodak Amidol-catechol sd-22 you likely can't buy these -but if you're interested I can post the formulas.. Most of these developers are formulated to deal with hydroquinones behaviour of becoming almost completely inactive below 55 degrees F, unless it is used with a caustic alkali (materials with a very high pH) These developers all have a very high pH. Some can be used at sub-zero temperatures with the addition of alcohol. Pure ethylene glycol works best. Kodak Amidol-catechol can be used at -40 F I'll have to try some of these in January here in Saskatchewan when it gets to -40 :) There is a page on cold-processing in this book- fixing is difficult at cold temperatures as well. If you're really interested I can pass this on. Gord On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, aaron wrote: > i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold > processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures than > others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below 68 degrees. > winter is here and it would be nice to find a working alternative to > heating chemistry... > > another question, related to temperature... can reticulation happen with > (paper) prints? the information i've found is related to film. i'm > curious what experiences people might have had with this effect. > > sorry these are a bit off topic, but rest assured any answers will be > used for pinhole projects... > > thanks > /aaron > > _______ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
[pinhole-discussion] Re:Jan's site
Jan, Thanks for sharing your site with us. I loved your photos--especially the 360-degree ones! -- Traci Bunkers Bonkers Handmade Originals http://www.bonkersfiber.com All the images I have made so far, along with pictures of the > camera, are on my website, http://www.jankapoor.net/HexCamera.html >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo SOT
gregg b. mc neill wrote: > i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold > processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures than > others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below 68 degrees. > winter is here and it would be nice to find a working alternative to > heating chemistry... several months ago in National Geo. magazine they had a picture from 1909. Photographer Oscar D. von Engeln is squatting at the egde of a glacial stream holding up a strip of Huge negs. The average water temp. in this region was 44*F. No dev times, but a great picture to illustrate that cold processing is indeed possible. I know this is probably a total fiction, but have you tried to call KODAK Professional Imaging?. gregg b. mc neill Kodak has a page covering the voyage of Frank Hurley on Sheckleton's Endurance: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/features/endurance/ where Hurley writes the following in his diary: “Darkroom work rendered extremely difficult by the low temperatures it being -13°C outside.” The temperature in the darkroom, near the engine room, is just above freezing. “Washing [plates] is troublesome as the tank must be kept warm or the plates become an enclosure in an ice block Development is a source of annoyance to the fingers which split & crack around the nails in a painful manner.” He remarks about the “difficulty in obtaining sufficient water for washing operations”—not noting the obvious reason for the difficulty: He gets water by melting blocks of ice. a)He used a Kodak camera and b)After coming back, Kodak sponsored some exhibitions of him, so: Kodak should have something, and if not under "Professional Imaging" then maybe under "History" Taco
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Xmas swap
> . All the images I have made so far, along with pictures of the > camera, are on my website, http://www.jankapoor.net/HexCamera.html > Absolutly amazing! JMB
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Xmas swap
Hi Heidi-- I got your image, too-- have enjoyed all the ones I have got so far, and looking forward to many more! My image was made with a hexagonal 6-pinhole camera I made this past spring. All the images I have made so far, along with pictures of the camera, are on my website, http://www.jankapoor.net/HexCamera.html Happy Holidays to all-- Jan CRABBE Heidi S wrote: Have had some great cards through so far this year - it's so good to see what other people get up to with pinhole. Amazing images and I look forward to more! A question for Jan Kapoor - love your image, how was it done if you don't mind saying! Happy christmas everyone! Heidi -- Fine art photography by Jan Kapoor at www.jankapoor.net Pinhole, large format, alternative printing processes and digital imagery
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo SOT
> > > i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold > > > processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures than > > > others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below 68 degrees. > > > winter is here and it would be nice to find a working alternative to > > > heating chemistry... You may wish to see the Time/Temp Chart at http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo SOT
> i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold > processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures than > others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below 68 degrees. > winter is here and it would be nice to find a working alternative to > heating chemistry... several months ago in National Geo. magazine they had a picture from 1909. Photographer Oscar D. von Engeln is squatting at the egde of a glacial stream holding up a strip of Huge negs. The average water temp. in this region was 44*F. No dev times, but a great picture to illustrate that cold processing is indeed possible. I know this is probably a total fiction, but have you tried to call KODAK Professional Imaging?. Better yet, call up some graduate level photo teachers, since they have to deal with all manners of craziness, they might be able to give you a starting point from which to test. Anyway...my 2 bits.. email me off list if you'd like a scan of the picture and the blurb next to it. gregg b. mc neill gbmcne...@hotmail.com grand rapids, mi _ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues
Aaron, you will not get reticulation using paper. As for temperature of the developers they are all about the same and would advise keeping them at a min of 68 the developing times will lengthen. Many years ago when I started out I made some heating trays using biscuit tins with a 40 watt bulb on a dimmer switch. Which worked well and held the temp at an even 70 degs with the lamp turned down to the lowest point. cheers , Eric. - Original Message - From: "aaron" To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues > i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold > processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures than > others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below 68 degrees. > winter is here and it would be nice to find a working alternative to > heating chemistry... > > another question, related to temperature... can reticulation happen with > (paper) prints? the information i've found is related to film. i'm > curious what experiences people might have had with this effect. > > sorry these are a bit off topic, but rest assured any answers will be > used for pinhole projects... > > thanks > /aaron > > ___________ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Various to the Group (streak camera)
Hi Gord, It's good to hear that folks are successful in creating home-built Cirkut cameras! My main two stumbling blocks were the availability of roll film larger than 120 size (I know Kodak still makes films for Cirkut cameras but they are expensive) and the mechanism to sync the travel of the film with the rotation of the camera. I tried to keep this project cheap by using preexisting products, 2X3 Graphic, roll holder, etc but I came to the conclusion that a 'properly' made Cirkut type camera should be built from scratch... Although this is getting off topic, it would be great to see your friend's images here. Cheers, Dai. >From: hol...@duke.usask.ca (Gordon J. Holtslander) >Hi: > >A friend of mine is building a circuit camera designed to shoot 12" wide >CGP lith film. Its design is that the camera body rotates, while the film >is rolled behind a slit. It should be able to take picture of varying >widths. It should be finished in a month or so. > >I can't wait to see the contact prints it will make :) > >Gord
Re: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Various to the Group (streak camera)
Hi: A friend of mine is building a circuit camera designed to shoot 12" wide CGP lith film. Its design is that the camera body rotates, while the film is rolled behind a slit. It should be able to take picture of varying widths. It should be finished in a month or so. I can't wait to see the contact prints it will make :) Gord On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 dain...@aol.com wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I wanted to make a Cirkut camera out of a 2X3 "baby" Speed Graphic but > could not figure out how to spin the camera around a tripod and have the > film sync to it. I still liked the idea of having a long strip of 120 > film as one image so I decided to just motorize the film back and use it > like a scanner. The inspiration came from some of the "photocopy machine > art" I've seen, where the artiest will move a piece of image on the glass > of the Xerox(TM) while making a copy. > > The film back is a standard 120 knob-advance Graphic roll film back that > I stuck a motor and battery to it. There is also a resistor so the speed > of the motor can be changed. Like the Cirkut camera, the normal film > gate, originally 2 1/4 inches was masked off to only a vertical slit of > 1/32 inches. It's heavy and chunky but it works. > > I found that if I try to "scan" a scene by moving the camera, (say from > left to right) the resulting images would be very streaky and blurry, > just a wash of colors. I wanted to shoot portraits anyway so the > solution of having the subjects 'spin' on a swivel office chair while I > hand hold the camera to make the exposure created the right balance > between having lots of distortion and still have a recognizable image. > > I made the images with Kodak E100VS, scanned them in sections, "stitched" > them in Photoshop and printed them 12 feet X 13 inches for a show a year > ago. > > Dai. > > > >From: tomwmil...@comcast.net (Tom Miller) > >Dai wrote: > > > >> I've made a 'streak' camera, not technically a anamorphic > >> image but maybe > >> it's something close to what you had in mind: > >> http://www.justdai.com/3port/index.html It's a camera that winds the > >> film continuously while its taking a picture. I had my > >> models sit on a > >> swivel office chair and spun them around as I took the exposure. > > > >These are remarkable images! Can you share how the camera advances the > >film? Is it gear driven? Motorized? It reminds me of some images I've > >seen made with Cirkut cameras, which turn in a circle when making an > >exposure. However, from your description it seems that the camera stays put > >while the subject moves. > > > >Tom > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
Re: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Various to the Group (streak camera)
Hi Tom, I wanted to make a Cirkut camera out of a 2X3 "baby" Speed Graphic but could not figure out how to spin the camera around a tripod and have the film sync to it. I still liked the idea of having a long strip of 120 film as one image so I decided to just motorize the film back and use it like a scanner. The inspiration came from some of the "photocopy machine art" I've seen, where the artiest will move a piece of image on the glass of the Xerox(TM) while making a copy. The film back is a standard 120 knob-advance Graphic roll film back that I stuck a motor and battery to it. There is also a resistor so the speed of the motor can be changed. Like the Cirkut camera, the normal film gate, originally 2 1/4 inches was masked off to only a vertical slit of 1/32 inches. It's heavy and chunky but it works. I found that if I try to "scan" a scene by moving the camera, (say from left to right) the resulting images would be very streaky and blurry, just a wash of colors. I wanted to shoot portraits anyway so the solution of having the subjects 'spin' on a swivel office chair while I hand hold the camera to make the exposure created the right balance between having lots of distortion and still have a recognizable image. I made the images with Kodak E100VS, scanned them in sections, "stitched" them in Photoshop and printed them 12 feet X 13 inches for a show a year ago. Dai. >From: tomwmil...@comcast.net (Tom Miller) >Dai wrote: > >> I've made a 'streak' camera, not technically a anamorphic >> image but maybe >> it's something close to what you had in mind: >> http://www.justdai.com/3port/index.html It's a camera that winds the >> film continuously while its taking a picture. I had my >> models sit on a >> swivel office chair and spun them around as I took the exposure. > >These are remarkable images! Can you share how the camera advances the >film? Is it gear driven? Motorized? It reminds me of some images I've >seen made with Cirkut cameras, which turn in a circle when making an >exposure. However, from your description it seems that the camera stays put >while the subject moves. > >Tom
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Various to the Group
This kind of camera is known as a strip camera. Some info on strip cameras here: http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-better-scanner-cam.html Gord On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Tom Miller wrote: > Dai wrote: > > > I've made a 'streak' camera, not technically a anamorphic > > image but maybe > > it's something close to what you had in mind: > > http://www.justdai.com/3port/index.html It's a camera that winds the > > film continuously while its taking a picture. I had my > > models sit on a > > swivel office chair and spun them around as I took the exposure. > > These are remarkable images! Can you share how the camera advances the > film? Is it gear driven? Motorized? It reminds me of some images I've > seen made with Cirkut cameras, which turn in a circle when making an > exposure. However, from your description it seems that the camera stays put > while the subject moves. > > Tom > > > > ___________ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Type of paper for pinhole prints
Hi Traci, I got some pictures too, but didn't have time to start sending mines yet. I usually have a photolab printing them to me, but any aproach you choose will be OK I believe. Best regards Joao - Original Message - From: "Traci Bunkers" To: Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Type of paper for pinhole prints > I have already been getting some great pinhole cards from the swap. A few of > them look like they have been printed at a photo lab--the paper doesn't look > like ink jet photo paper. The main ones in question are Marcy Merrill's. I > need to print my photos for the swap and wondered how these people did it. > They look so nice! > > Thanks! > -- > Traci Bunkers > Bonkers Handmade Originals > http://www.bonkersfiber.com > > > > _______ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Xmas swap
Have had some great cards through so far this year - it's so good to see what other people get up to with pinhole. Amazing images and I look forward to more! A question for Jan Kapoor - love your image, how was it done if you don't mind saying! Happy christmas everyone! Heidi
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Various to the Group
Dai wrote: > I've made a 'streak' camera, not technically a anamorphic > image but maybe > it's something close to what you had in mind: > http://www.justdai.com/3port/index.html It's a camera that winds the > film continuously while its taking a picture. I had my > models sit on a > swivel office chair and spun them around as I took the exposure. These are remarkable images! Can you share how the camera advances the film? Is it gear driven? Motorized? It reminds me of some images I've seen made with Cirkut cameras, which turn in a circle when making an exposure. However, from your description it seems that the camera stays put while the subject moves. Tom
[pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues
i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures than others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below 68 degrees. winter is here and it would be nice to find a working alternative to heating chemistry... another question, related to temperature... can reticulation happen with (paper) prints? the information i've found is related to film. i'm curious what experiences people might have had with this effect. sorry these are a bit off topic, but rest assured any answers will be used for pinhole projects... thanks /aaron
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Type of paper for pinhole prints
Traci Bunkers wrote: > I have already been getting some great pinhole cards from the swap. A few of > them look like they have been printed at a photo lab--the paper doesn't look > like ink jet photo paper. The main ones in question are Marcy Merrill's. Ah oh. I'm "in question." Here's how I printed my swap photos ( and thanks for asking) : I exposed 4x5 b&w film ( Ilford HP5) using a large Pintoid (Altoids container converter to pinhole camera). I printed the image as an 8x10 on b&w paper (the old fashioned way). I then tinted the print with color dyes, scanned it and slapped the file onto a cd. I dropped it off at the lab where they made 100 4x6 color prints. Simple as pie. I'm truly enjoying the pinhole photos I've received thus far and I look forward to even more! Thanks, MM Marcy Merrill www.JunkStoreCameras.com
[pinhole-discussion] signing
I gave some thought to signing my photos and came up with my own little system . Big photos I surface sign on the image. mid sized ones I initial. Little ones I sign on the back. My reasoning is the signature shouldn't interfere with the image: so the smaller the image the less the signature should take up space. all of them I stamp with my contact information. If they aren't worth stamping I pitch them out. Pete
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Signing Photos for trades or sale
It depends upon whether my print is given framed or not. If I am just giving someone a print and they ask, I normally sign it on the back in pencil. If the print is dry mounted, I prefer to sign on the paper to which the print is affixed. I do not like signing directly on the print because my feeling is that the signature is not part of the image. I sign with a Micron Pigma pen, which gives me a nice strong line that will last. Cheers - george - http://www.GLSmyth.com http://DRiPInvesting.org --- On Thu 12/11, < artvision...@optusnet.com.au > wrote: From: [mailto: artvision...@optusnet.com.au] To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:26 +1100 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Signing Photos for trades or sale This is a bit of a Naive question, but I will ask it anyway... When you guys trade or sell photos, do you sign them ? If so, what do you use to sign them ? You would want to make sure the ink is archival so it doesn't start to yellow or damage the photo... Do you sign on the front of back ? If you sign on the back, does it not leave an impression of your signature or writing on the front of the photo ? I have noticed some photographers sign on the image itself, while others sign in the white border on the front of the photo (if there is a white border around the image). Then others sign the matboard, which rests just on the edges of the photo between the photo and the frame. I have seen other photographers stamp the back with their name and sign above that...I am just interested to hear how some of you do or don't sign and why ? I know it takes us off the direct discussion of pinhole, but it is still related. Damian_Traci Bunkers wrote: I have already been getting some great pinhole cards from the swap. A few ofthem look like they have been printed at a photo lab--the paper doesn't look like ink jet photo paper. The main ones in question are Marcy Merrill's. I need to print my photos for the swap and wondered how these people did it. They look so nice! Thanks!-- Traci BunkersBonkers Handmade Originalshttp://www.bonkersfiber.com___Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing listPinhole-Discussion@p at ???unsubscribe or change your account athttp://www.???/discussion/ ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com
[pinhole-discussion] Thank you
Just a quick email to thank those few who have traded their photos with me. Your photos are amazing and much appreciated. They are now part of the permanent collection, The Collection Art Visionary, which I own and manage. Your photos will be placed in various exhibitions I curate over the years in museums here and abroad where appropriate. The current national museum tour I am curating here in Australia has already found great success with the first two venues. We have another 4 venues and 3 states to go before the tour finishes. See more info about this current tour here: http://www.org.nsw.gov.au/exhibitishow.htm When I finally pull together enough quality photos into my collection, I will then think about the best approach for putting together a show here in one of the regional museums. If it is successful, I may tour it through other museums. I especially would love to hear from photographers and writers here in Australia to help brainstorm the exhibition when I do start working on pulling it together. - Damian
[pinhole-discussion] Signing Photos for trades or sale
This is a bit of a Naive question, but I will ask it anyway... When you guys trade or sell photos, do you sign them ? If so, what do you use to sign them ? You would want to make sure the ink is archival so it doesn't start to yellow or damage the photo... Do you sign on the front of back ? If you sign on the back, does it not leave an impression of your signature or writing on the front of the photo ? I have noticed some photographers sign on the image itself, while others sign in the white border on the front of the photo (if there is a white border around the image). Then others sign the matboard, which rests just on the edges of the photo between the photo and the frame. I have seen other photographers stamp the back with their name and sign above that... I am just interested to hear how some of you do or don't sign and why ? I know it takes us off the direct discussion of pinhole, but it is still related. Damian _ Traci Bunkers wrote: I have already been getting some great pinhole cards from the swap. A few of them look like they have been printed at a photo lab--the paper doesn't look like ink jet photo paper. The main ones in question are Marcy Merrill's. I need to print my photos for the swap and wondered how these people did it. They look so nice! Thanks! -- Traci Bunkers Bonkers Handmade Originals http://www.bonkersfiber.com
[pinhole-discussion] Type of paper for pinhole prints
I have already been getting some great pinhole cards from the swap. A few of them look like they have been printed at a photo lab--the paper doesn't look like ink jet photo paper. The main ones in question are Marcy Merrill's. I need to print my photos for the swap and wondered how these people did it. They look so nice! Thanks! -- Traci Bunkers Bonkers Handmade Originals http://www.bonkersfiber.com
[pinhole-discussion] PS4 news
Hi all PS4 swappers ! I am confused that I could not hold my promise to send you some info on last Sunday as I -sincerely- announced in my post of 12/02 ! The preparation of my exhibit (opening on Friday) caused me some unwanted problems... and I have added some delay ! I ask for your indulgence and understaanding; you will get the info on next week-end when things are coming back at their right place ;-) So, please do not worry; it will come now!!! Cheers from France Jean
