Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-25 Thread George L Smyth
--- Chris Harris  wrote:
> I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
> canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the 
> pinhole.
> 
> I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip to 
> my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel wouldn't 
> cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.

You don't really need a clean hole.  I'm assuming that you will be making a
pinhole from pie pan aluminum (or something like that), then affixing it to the
inside of the cannister over the larger hole.  That being the case, I would
think that just about anything would work - perhaps use a pencil to make the
hole, then use sandpaper to smooth the "burrs."

Cheers -

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-25 Thread R Duarte
If you're worried about safety, I'd just cut the holes before the students
get there.  A Dremel might work, maybe a drill with a forstener bit in it,
but I'd be more worried about safety with all these powertools - especially
since you're drilling something cylindrical.

Rob "learned my lesson about drilling wobbly things without clamping them
securely the hard way last month when i drilled through my finger, bone and
fingernail" Duarte

> From: "Bill Erickson" 
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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 06:53:55 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box
> 
> Any power tool will shred the cardboard. I'd use either an xacto knife or a
> single edger razor blade.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Harris" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:58 PM
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box
> 
> 
>> I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal
>> canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the
>> pinhole.
>> 
>> I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip
> to
>> my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel
> wouldn't
>> cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.
>> 
>> Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so, what Dremel bit should
> I
>> buy for this job?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-24 Thread G.Penate
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From: "Bill Leigh" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box


> I have a Dremel tool that I got from my father. I've
> been looking into using it for drilling a clean hole.
> I just purchased a set of drill bits (sizes 61-80) for
> a Dremel tools. When I went to use it, I found that
> the chuck (or collett or whatever) did not go small
> emough to hold the small drills, so I am looking at
> buying a new chuck that can take the drills. The
> smallest bit goes down to 0.013"

You may want to buy a drill press stand for your dremel, it would make drilling
the holes easier.  I have that configuration and although I don't use it for
pinhole making, I have used it in the past and it works (sort of).  Just have in
mind the hole may not be exactly the size of the drill and will have lots of
burrs around them.

Guillermo







Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-24 Thread Bill Leigh
I have a Dremel tool that I got from my father. I've
been looking into using it for drilling a clean hole.
I just purchased a set of drill bits (sizes 61-80) for
a Dremel tools. When I went to use it, I found that
the chuck (or collett or whatever) did not go small
emough to hold the small drills, so I am looking at
buying a new chuck that can take the drills. The
smallest bit goes down to 0.013"

I got an email this morning from a supplier, and I
think I might have found what I need. All of this can
be found at http://www.widgetsupply.com

Once I get the thing working correctly, I'll drop a
note about this. Fortunately, the pieces are pretty
cheap. The shipping is a major part of the cost.


Bill Leigh





--- Chris Harris  wrote:
> I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing
> cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
> canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the
> opening for the 
> pinhole.
> 
> I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill,
> which I don't own. A trip to 
> my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy
> said a Dremel wouldn't 
> cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the
> cost of the drill.
> 
> Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so,
> what Dremel bit should I 
> buy for this job?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 
>
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-24 Thread Bill Erickson
Any power tool will shred the cardboard. I'd use either an xacto knife or a
single edger razor blade.
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Harris" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:58 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box


> I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal
> canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the
> pinhole.
>
> I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip
to
> my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel
wouldn't
> cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.
>
> Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so, what Dremel bit should
I
> buy for this job?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-24 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
> At 05:58 PM 5/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal
> >canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the pinhole.
> How about a punch?  If you were to insert a piece of soft wood (like a 2x4
> clamped to the edge of  a table) into the oatmeal box for a mandrel, you
> could smack a short piece of brass tubing (or anything else you could find
> lying around) with a hammer and punch out a pretty good circular
> hole--especially if you filed the edges of the tube to make it slightly
> sharp (but not skin-cutting sharp).

The above is much like a cork-borer.  This is a tube with one end
sharpened to bore a hole in a cork.  You may be able to get one at a very
good hardware store or from a scientific supply house - maybe even a
wine-making store.

We have a couple of sets of them for making different sized holes in
corks and stoppers.

They should cut through cardboard

Gord

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-23 Thread Chad Eby

At 05:58 PM 5/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the pinhole.
How about a punch?  If you were to insert a piece of soft wood (like a 2x4 
clamped to the edge of  a table) into the oatmeal box for a mandrel, you 
could smack a short piece of brass tubing (or anything else you could find 
lying around) with a hammer and punch out a pretty good circular 
hole--especially if you filed the edges of the tube to make it slightly 
sharp (but not skin-cutting sharp).


Another possibility would be to use a circle template, a mandrel like 
above, and a ball-point pen.  Use the template to draw a circle on the 
cannister in the desired spot, and then keep going around and around using 
the template as a guide, bearing down hard with the pen...soon enough 
you'll come through the other side.  A little time consuming, but pretty 
safe--I'm not sure you couldn't do as much damage with a Dremel as with a 
knife!


Cheers,
Chad




[pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-23 Thread Chris Harris
I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the 
pinhole.


I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip to 
my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel wouldn't 
cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.


Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so, what Dremel bit should I 
buy for this job?


Thanks,

Chris

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