Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea/John M's "experiment "
In a message dated 3/14/03 11:51:30 PM Central Standard Time, DAlfrey writes: << So- I'll have to request the addresses of each of the original posters of this thread, as my attorney will be contacting each of you tomorrow morning. Since I live in California, I plan on bringing a lawsuit against each of you for not warning me of the dangers of BB Pinholing. I'm looking for the deepest pockets here, so you might as well make it easy on yourselves & fess up to your annual incomes. I'm sure Marcy's collection of toy cameras has to be worth serious bucks at this point- so I'm expecting a HUGE settlement! >> Ohhh I dunno John, I am not an original poster for this idea, but.. given your response here, I think you should know a lawsuit naming you is coming forthwith . You see, when I read of your activity /experiment , I broke 3 ribs laughing , plus my eyebrows contorted so badly from disbelief at what I read , that plastic surgery will now be required , plus the soda I was drinking at the time, spewed all the monitor, CPU and walls, thereby neccesitating buying a new puter, (I was looking for an excuse to buy one anyhoo ) , a new paint job on the walls . My guess is that the moderators of this discussion group will soon be thinking of putting a disclaimer :WARNING : pinholing can be dangerous to your health and other living things , OR do not try this at home unless supervision is present . Lastly , since I know this post of mine was/is WAY off topic , I just want to part with this : Thanks John , and all, for making me laugh today . DAlfrey PS, have you considered contacting the Pentagon about becoming a "secret weapon of mess (sic) destruction " , I hear there is a war coming to a neighborhood near you soon . With posts like this, am putting some money into BB stocks and BB gun manufacturing Am gonna make a killing, OOPS maybe I shouldnt have said that
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea- Last Update! (No, Really)
Here's my last update on the BB Pinhole (no, really!): First- the good news: MY EYE GREW BACK! I'm so relieved, I was sure that I'd spend the rest of my life looking like a pirate, or Kurt Russel in "Captain Ron" (what a pitiful flick, take my word for it). Second- I've updated my BB Pinhole page (see link below) with a pic of the camera. I don't have a pic of the resulting photo because I lost the days light. Plus, I'm a terrible shot. I hope to update the page tomorrow, unless it rains. Finally- Since my lawsuit is out of the window (after all- my eye did grow back) I've decided to apply for patent protection on the New Improved BB Pinhole Camera (TM/R/CopyRight/Etc.). I figure I stand to make BIG BUCKS off of this baby. If anyone is interested in an investment opportunity, please contact me as soon as possible... I'd hate for you to miss out on this fantastic project! John Moore Ramona, CA www.speakeasy.net/~jlmoore --- On Fri 03/14, D. Hill < zopp...@yahoo.com > wrote: From: D. Hill [mailto: zopp...@yahoo.com] To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:28:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea Allright, this is interesting - I'm going to visit my Mom and get the rusty old lawn darts out and do this too... Don ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
Allright, this is interesting - I'm going to visit my Mom and get the rusty old lawn darts out and do this too... Don --- John Moore wrote: > > Okay- NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! > > I have a pnuematic nail gun... now all I need to do > is figure out how to jam the safety (this is hard > with only one eye). > > I'll get back to you after I've tried this! > > > John Moore > > --- On Fri 03/14, Thom Mitchell < > tjmi...@ix.netcom.com > wrote: > From: Thom Mitchell [mailto: tjmi...@ix.netcom.com] > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:32:34 -0500 > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB > Idea > > A slingshot may also work. I know once upon a time > in my misspent youth I owned a wrist-rocket > slingshot. I know I was able to put 1/4 "; 1/2" and > 1" steel shot through multiple layers of cardboard > and the hole were fairly clear. Using a bb from > about 1' -2' might be the perfect combo of power to > punch through cardboard creating a nice vignette > from the thickness of the material. I would use some > 16x20 paper to overcome the size of the holes. > > Another option might be to use a nail gun > > > > > ___ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea- Updates!
Okay- modifying the nail gun was a BAD idea... Thinking ahead, after last night's experience with the BB Gun, I decided to run a test on the nail gun before actually firing it into the camera. After wiring the safety open I must have moved the switch that allows multiple nailings. Don't worry- I got all of the nails out of my left hand! I should have a couple of pictures posted soon. My son Ian (13) & his friend Ian (also 13) are more than happy to help with the rest of the project. We've decided to forgo the nail gun; and to save time we're not going to try the dart idea (we'll just wander off, shooting darts at things). Wish us luck! John Moore Ramona, CA http://www.speakeasy.net/~jlmoore/bbpinhole.htm --- On Fri 03/14, Guillermo < pen...@rogers.com > wrote: Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea Hey!!, may be we can find some sponsor for this experiments: Home Depot for the nail gun version and the NRA for the other. ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
Low-tech! Great, I like that. A friend made a blow gun out of 1/2 inch copper pipe and a length of sharpened coat hanger with a cotton ball on the back end as packing. When he tried it out it went through a half inch piece of plywood. >= Original Message From "Tom Miller" = >How about using a needle in a blow gun? It would be low-tech, just like so >much of the pinhole adventure. >-- Tom > Chris Peregoy pere...@umbc.edu http://www.pinholeblender.com
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
How about using a needle in a blow gun? It would be low-tech, just like so much of the pinhole adventure. -- Tom -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guillermo Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 4:25 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea Hey!!, may be we can find some sponsor for this experiments: Home Depot for the nail gun version and the NRA for the other.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
Hey!!, may be we can find some sponsor for this experiments: Home Depot for the nail gun version and the NRA for the other. - Original Message - From: "John Moore" > > Okay- NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! > > I have a pnuematic nail gun... now all I need to do is figure out how to jam the safety (this is hard with only one eye). > > --- On Fri 03/14, Thom Mitchell < tjmi...@ix.netcom.com > wrote: > > A slingshot may also work. I know once upon a time in my misspent youth I owned a wrist-rocket slingshot. I know I was able to put 1/4 "; 1/2" and 1" steel shot through multiple layers of cardboard and the hole were fairly clear. Using a bb from about 1' -2' might be the perfect combo of power to punch through cardboard creating a nice vignette from the thickness of the material. I would use some 16x20 paper to overcome the size of the holes. > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
Okay- NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! I have a pnuematic nail gun... now all I need to do is figure out how to jam the safety (this is hard with only one eye). I'll get back to you after I've tried this! John Moore --- On Fri 03/14, Thom Mitchell < tjmi...@ix.netcom.com > wrote: From: Thom Mitchell [mailto: tjmi...@ix.netcom.com] To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:32:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea A slingshot may also work. I know once upon a time in my misspent youth I owned a wrist-rocket slingshot. I know I was able to put 1/4 "; 1/2" and 1" steel shot through multiple layers of cardboard and the hole were fairly clear. Using a bb from about 1' -2' might be the perfect combo of power to punch through cardboard creating a nice vignette from the thickness of the material. I would use some 16x20 paper to overcome the size of the holes. Another option might be to use a nail gun ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
A slingshot may also work. I know once upon a time in my misspent youth I owned a wrist-rocket slingshot. I know I was able to put 1/4 "; 1/2" and 1" steel shot through multiple layers of cardboard and the hole were fairly clear. Using a bb from about 1' -2' might be the perfect combo of power to punch through cardboard creating a nice vignette from the thickness of the material. I would use some 16x20 paper to overcome the size of the holes. Another option might be to use a nail gun - Original Message - From: "Philip willarney" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 15:41 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea > > --- John Moore wrote: > > > > Okay, I've gone & made the camera. I took a 16x11x11 > > cardboard box (from one of the WAY too many online > > auction purchases) & cut one end off & mounted a > > piece of aluminum foil on the end. I then taped the > > hell out of it (photoblack+carton+duct) and put it > > all back together for a firing test. I don't know if > > the hole that the BB makes is neat enough for a > > clean pinhole image- I'll have to test that later. > > Good go -- I was thinking of using thin cardboard > rather than foil, as I suspect the bb may tear foil > rather than just go through it -- who knows? > > Re: risks, please refer to the B*y Sc**t boys legal > basic guidebook, page, 235, #34 -- "don't do anything > stupid, ok?" > > I think I'll go put some gold in aqua regia now (don't > to this at home, kids! I am assured that this > combination may explode, will emit toxic, highly > corrosive fumes, and may lead to an IRS audit). > > -- John Stuart Mill (he's dead, Jim). > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
--- John Moore wrote: > > Okay, I've gone & made the camera. I took a 16x11x11 > cardboard box (from one of the WAY too many online > auction purchases) & cut one end off & mounted a > piece of aluminum foil on the end. I then taped the > hell out of it (photoblack+carton+duct) and put it > all back together for a firing test. I don't know if > the hole that the BB makes is neat enough for a > clean pinhole image- I'll have to test that later. Good go -- I was thinking of using thin cardboard rather than foil, as I suspect the bb may tear foil rather than just go through it -- who knows? Re: risks, please refer to the B*y Sc**t boys legal basic guidebook, page, 235, #34 -- "don't do anything stupid, ok?" I think I'll go put some gold in aqua regia now (don't to this at home, kids! I am assured that this combination may explode, will emit toxic, highly corrosive fumes, and may lead to an IRS audit). -- John Stuart Mill (he's dead, Jim). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
--- michael_georg...@trendmicro.com wrote: > Philip Willarney, I salute your brilliantly nutty > idea! (And am not surprised Ms. Merrill, our > associate in wierdness, came out to comment!). Now, > given that an airgun bb has a diameter of .175", > we'll need Guillermo to tell us how far apart the > inner sides of the box need to be. Well, I'm an informal member of the "who cares what size the pinhole is, let's see if we get a picture" study working task force. I think the size of the box will be driven by what size film/paper I have handy and how much cardboard/foamcore I have on hand. -- pw __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
Well, allright then, my "legal" name - Bob D. Bobson IV. But instead of money, I only have Snickerdoodles... Good thing I didn't tell you to get the shotgun for a multi-hole pinhole project... Don --- John Moore wrote: > > Okay, I've gone & made the camera. I took a 16x11x11 > cardboard box (from one of the WAY too many online > auction purchases) & cut one end off & mounted a > piece of aluminum foil on the end. I then taped the > hell out of it (photoblack+carton+duct) and put it > all back together for a firing test. I don't know if > the hole that the BB makes is neat enough for a > clean pinhole image- I'll have to test that later. > > That's the good news... now the bad news: 1st, I cut > myself with the carton knife I was using (thankfully > only once- but it was through the first layer of > skin) then, I used the BB gun that has the CO2 > cartridge (WAY TOO MUCH POWER) and the BB went > through the foil, through the back of the box, > bounced off of the workbench and through my glasses > & I SHOT MY EYE OUT! > > So- I'll have to request the addresses of each of > the original posters of this thread, as my attorney > will be contacting each of you tomorrow morning. > Since I live in California, I plan on bringing a > lawsuit against each of you for not warning me of > the dangers of BB Pinholing. I'm looking for the > deepest pockets here, so you might as well make it > easy on yourselves & fess up to your annual incomes. > I'm sure Marcy's collection of toy cameras has to be > worth serious bucks at this point- so I'm expecting > a HUGE settlement! > > If I can get some assistance with another test in > the morning- I'm hoping I can talk one of my > neighbors into performing the firing sequence (while > I'm busy in the darkroom). If this works, I'll post > some results here: > http://www.speakeasy.net/~jlmoore/bbpinhole.htm > > If none of my neighbors are willing/gullible, then > maybe I can talk my attorney into performing this > test. > > John Moore > Ramona, CA > > > > > John Moore > Ramona, CA > www.thejohnderosa.com > > --- On Thu 03/13, Guillermo < pen...@rogers.com > > wrote: > From: Guillermo [mailto: pen...@rogers.com] > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:57:05 -0500 > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB > Idea > > > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:12 PM > >Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea > > > >Philip Willarney, I salute your brilliantly nutty > idea! (And am not > >surprised Ms. Merrill, our associate in wierdness, > came out to > >comment!). Now, given that an airgun bb has a > diameter of .175", > >we'll need Guillermo to tell us how far apart the > inner sides of the > >box need to be. > > Without taking my trusty slide ruler out to make the > calculation, I can tell > you it would need to be like the "mother of all > pinhole cameras" (or not). > > Guillermo > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > ___ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
Okay, I've gone & made the camera. I took a 16x11x11 cardboard box (from one of the WAY too many online auction purchases) & cut one end off & mounted a piece of aluminum foil on the end. I then taped the hell out of it (photoblack+carton+duct) and put it all back together for a firing test. I don't know if the hole that the BB makes is neat enough for a clean pinhole image- I'll have to test that later. That's the good news... now the bad news: 1st, I cut myself with the carton knife I was using (thankfully only once- but it was through the first layer of skin) then, I used the BB gun that has the CO2 cartridge (WAY TOO MUCH POWER) and the BB went through the foil, through the back of the box, bounced off of the workbench and through my glasses & I SHOT MY EYE OUT! So- I'll have to request the addresses of each of the original posters of this thread, as my attorney will be contacting each of you tomorrow morning. Since I live in California, I plan on bringing a lawsuit against each of you for not warning me of the dangers of BB Pinholing. I'm looking for the deepest pockets here, so you might as well make it easy on yourselves & fess up to your annual incomes. I'm sure Marcy's collection of toy cameras has to be worth serious bucks at this point- so I'm expecting a HUGE settlement! If I can get some assistance with another test in the morning- I'm hoping I can talk one of my neighbors into performing the firing sequence (while I'm busy in the darkroom). If this works, I'll post some results here: http://www.speakeasy.net/~jlmoore/bbpinhole.htm If none of my neighbors are willing/gullible, then maybe I can talk my attorney into performing this test. John Moore Ramona, CA John Moore Ramona, CA www.thejohnderosa.com --- On Thu 03/13, Guillermo < pen...@rogers.com > wrote: From: Guillermo [mailto: pen...@rogers.com] To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:57:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea >- Original Message - >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:12 PM >Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea >Philip Willarney, I salute your brilliantly nutty idea! (And am not >surprised Ms. Merrill, our associate in wierdness, came out to >comment!). Now, given that an airgun bb has a diameter of .175", >we'll need Guillermo to tell us how far apart the inner sides of the >box need to be. Without taking my trusty slide ruler out to make the calculation, I can tell you it would need to be like the "mother of all pinhole cameras" (or not). Guillermo ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
>- Original Message - >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:12 PM >Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea >Philip Willarney, I salute your brilliantly nutty idea! (And am not >surprised Ms. Merrill, our associate in wierdness, came out to >comment!). Now, given that an airgun bb has a diameter of .175", >we'll need Guillermo to tell us how far apart the inner sides of the >box need to be. Without taking my trusty slide ruler out to make the calculation, I can tell you it would need to be like the "mother of all pinhole cameras" (or not). Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] Willarney's BB Idea
Philip Willarney, I salute your brilliantly nutty idea! (And am not surprised Ms. Merrill, our associate in wierdness, came out to comment!). Now, given that an airgun bb has a diameter of .175", we'll need Guillermo to tell us how far apart the inner sides of the box need to be. Michael Georgoff San Jose, CA
