Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-12 Thread Brigitte . Harper
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info. I agree that banding looks ok on some images and out
of place in others. Just depends on the image.

Regards,
Brigitte.




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Hi Brigitte,

Further in Jim Moninger's article he mentioned that he saw the banding
using .5mm slits and so increased the slit width to 2mm thus making
more diffuse images with less banding.  I can't see banding in the
images that accompany his article.

The use or elimination of banding is up to the photographer.  Marnie
Cardozo's images in the same issue of PJ are much sharper, but include
banding.  I've dedided to keep the banding in the iconoclast images.

Tom

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 Thanks guys.
 But what does it mean in pratical terms of constructing or pairing
 differently shaped slits. Is there anything I can do or avoid to do
in
 order to eliminate or diffuse the problem?
 Regards,
 Brigitte.



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   Also, do you have any explanation why in some slit
configurations
   there is a lot of banding (thin black lines) forming over the
image?
 
  This quote is from Jim Moninger's article in the Pinhole Journal
vol.
  15 #1 : These are apparently caused by the light rays / waves
with
  form the two separate images becoming out of phase with one
another.
  Tom

 Not just out of phase but 180 degrees from each other.
 This -perhaps- are
 regions where light (wave) diffracted by one slit is at its maximum
peak
 (+)
 and light (wave) diffracted by the other slit not just overlaps the
former
 but happens to be at its lowest peak (-), the net effect is
darkness, light
 from one slit canceling out with light from the other slit, weird,
eh?
 This
 BTW, is called Destructive Interference.

 Guillermo


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-08 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Guillermo,

I crudely measured several of the dozen or so slits that I use.  They
range from about .5mm to .75mm; most are about .65mm.  I wasn't sure
how to plug the numbers into the the following formula, since the
slits are different lengths from the film plane.  Most always the
inner slit is 3 or about 75mm from the film plane and the outer slit
is 6 or about 150mm.  There is only one focal length variable in the
formula.  Using .65 for both A and B: at 150mm focal length, the
result was f 204; at 75mm it was f 102.  My guess is that neither is
quite right.

Tom


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  The format for the two images is 4x5.  The rule of thumb I heard
was
  to meter the scene at f90 and give it two more stops.

 This means your slits set up is f/180

   This gives
  exposures of 1 or 2 seconds in bright sun with Ektachrome 64T
(EPY).
  The few pinhole exposures I've made with 4x5 EPY were in the 16
second
  range.  Naturally the slit exposure times can vary depending on
the
  width and length of the slits; but I've found that this rule of
thumb
  works well in almost all cases.

 I'd say the widths alone affect the exposure time.  The lengths and
distance
 between them affect the image circle size or angle of view.

 Tom, if you know the widths of the slits of your camera, could you
do me a
 favor? Could you please substitute the focal length and width of
slits in
 the following formula and find the result?

 f/stop = 0.886 x focal length / SQRT( A x B )

 where SQRT stands for Square Root, A is the width of one slit and B
is the
 width of the other slit

 Is the results anywhere close to f/180?  (close in this case means
above 128
 and bellow 256)

 Many thanks,

 Guillermo



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-08 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Brigitte,

Further in Jim Moninger's article he mentioned that he saw the banding
using .5mm slits and so increased the slit width to 2mm thus making
more diffuse images with less banding.  I can't see banding in the
images that accompany his article.

The use or elimination of banding is up to the photographer.  Marnie
Cardozo's images in the same issue of PJ are much sharper, but include
banding.  I've dedided to keep the banding in the iconoclast images.

Tom

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 Thanks guys.
 But what does it mean in pratical terms of constructing or pairing
 differently shaped slits. Is there anything I can do or avoid to do
in
 order to eliminate or diffuse the problem?
 Regards,
 Brigitte.



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   Also, do you have any explanation why in some slit
configurations
   there is a lot of banding (thin black lines) forming over the
image?
 
  This quote is from Jim Moninger's article in the Pinhole Journal
vol.
  15 #1 : These are apparently caused by the light rays / waves
with
  form the two separate images becoming out of phase with one
another.
  Tom

 Not just out of phase but 180 degrees from each other.
 This -perhaps- are
 regions where light (wave) diffracted by one slit is at its maximum
peak
 (+)
 and light (wave) diffracted by the other slit not just overlaps the
former
 but happens to be at its lowest peak (-), the net effect is
darkness, light
 from one slit canceling out with light from the other slit, weird,
eh?
 This
 BTW, is called Destructive Interference.

 Guillermo


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-07 Thread Brigitte . Harper
Thanks guys.
But what does it mean in pratical terms of constructing or pairing
differently shaped slits. Is there anything I can do or avoid to do in
order to eliminate or diffuse the problem?
Regards,
Brigitte.




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From: Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net

  Also, do you have any explanation why in some slit configurations
  there is a lot of banding (thin black lines) forming over the image?

 This quote is from Jim Moninger's article in the Pinhole Journal vol.
 15 #1 : These are apparently caused by the light rays / waves with
 form the two separate images becoming out of phase with one another.
 Tom

Not just out of phase but 180 degrees from each other.  This -perhaps- are
regions where light (wave) diffracted by one slit is at its maximum peak
(+)
and light (wave) diffracted by the other slit not just overlaps the former
but happens to be at its lowest peak (-), the net effect is darkness, light
from one slit canceling out with light from the other slit, weird, eh?
This
BTW, is called Destructive Interference.

Guillermo


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-07 Thread Guillermo
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From: Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net

  Also, do you have any explanation why in some slit configurations
  there is a lot of banding (thin black lines) forming over the image?

 This quote is from Jim Moninger's article in the Pinhole Journal vol.
 15 #1 : These are apparently caused by the light rays / waves with
 form the two separate images becoming out of phase with one another.
 Tom

Not just out of phase but 180 degrees from each other.  This -perhaps- are
regions where light (wave) diffracted by one slit is at its maximum peak (+)
and light (wave) diffracted by the other slit not just overlaps the former
but happens to be at its lowest peak (-), the net effect is darkness, light
from one slit canceling out with light from the other slit, weird, eh?  This
BTW, is called Destructive Interference.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-07 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Brigitte,

 Brigitte wrote:
 I have found that the slit nearest to the film plane (i.e. the inner
slit)
 shapes the image contortion significantly more than the other slit.
Is this
 your experience as well?

Yes.  The conclusion I've come to is that the inner slit determines
the overall shape of the image when it hits the film plane and the
outer slit determines distortion within this shape.  There's a lot
going on beyond this simple rule, but using it has helped me better
match slits with subject.

 Also, do you have any explanation why in some slit configurations
there is
 a lot of banding (thin black lines) forming over the image?

This quote is from Jim Moninger's article in the Pinhole Journal vol.
15 #1 : These are apparently caused by the light rays / waves with
form the two separate images becoming out of phase with one another.

Tom





Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-07 Thread Brigitte . Harper
Tom,

I have found that the slit nearest to the film plane (i.e. the inner slit)
shapes the image contortion significantly more than the other slit. Is this
your experience as well?
Also, do you have any explanation why in some slit configurations there is
a lot of banding (thin black lines) forming over the image?

Regards,
Brigitte.




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Hi Mac,

The format for the two images is 4x5.  The rule of thumb I heard was
to meter the scene at f90 and give it two more stops.  This gives
exposures of 1 or 2 seconds in bright sun with Ektachrome 64T (EPY).
The few pinhole exposures I've made with 4x5 EPY were in the 16 second
range.  Naturally the slit exposure times can vary depending on the
width and length of the slits; but I've found that this rule of thumb
works well in almost all cases.  (Also, I have a lab cross-process the
EPY film to C41 and use the negative image to make color prints.)

Tom

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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:24 PM
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 Hi Tom!

 Thanks!

 What format? Was this 35mm? I think I'd like to give this a try. How
do
 slit exposure times compare to pinhole? I'd gess a slit outputs a
lot
 more light.

 Thanks

 Mac:-)



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-06 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Mac,

The format for the two images is 4x5.  The rule of thumb I heard was
to meter the scene at f90 and give it two more stops.  This gives
exposures of 1 or 2 seconds in bright sun with Ektachrome 64T (EPY).
The few pinhole exposures I've made with 4x5 EPY were in the 16 second
range.  Naturally the slit exposure times can vary depending on the
width and length of the slits; but I've found that this rule of thumb
works well in almost all cases.  (Also, I have a lab cross-process the
EPY film to C41 and use the negative image to make color prints.)

Tom

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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 Hi Tom!

 Thanks!

 What format? Was this 35mm? I think I'd like to give this a try. How
do
 slit exposure times compare to pinhole? I'd gess a slit outputs a
lot
 more light.

 Thanks

 Mac:-)





Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-06 Thread SPRINGTYME
Hi Tom!

Thanks!

What format? Was this 35mm? I think I'd like to give this a try. How do 
slit exposure times compare to pinhole? I'd gess a slit outputs a lot 
more light.

Thanks

Mac:-)

Very nice work. Nowadays it is so easy to do special effects in 
Photoshop. But the reall fun is that you don't really know what you are 
going to get with real film!

Hi Mac,

You are correct: the subject is a flat sign.  For His Master, the
inner slit is question-mark-shaped and is horizontal in this image.
The outer slit was a line that has about a 30-degree bend in the
middle.  It is vertical in this image and crosses the question mark in
the center of the frame.  Both slits were stationary.  If I remember
correctly, the film plane was slightly angled relative to the plane of
the sign.  One problem with photographing signs close up is that my
tripods only go so high.  And on sunny days, the camera's shadow can
fall on the subject; angling the camera slightly often corrects this
problem.  Thank you for your interest.

Tom



Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-06 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Mac,

You are correct: the subject is a flat sign.  For His Master, the
inner slit is question-mark-shaped and is horizontal in this image.
The outer slit was a line that has about a 30-degree bend in the
middle.  It is vertical in this image and crosses the question mark in
the center of the frame.  Both slits were stationary.  If I remember
correctly, the film plane was slightly angled relative to the plane of
the sign.  One problem with photographing signs close up is that my
tripods only go so high.  And on sunny days, the camera's shadow can
fall on the subject; angling the camera slightly often corrects this
problem.  Thank you for your interest.

Tom


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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:51 PM
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 Hi Tom!

 Very nice! can you explain tmiller_hismaster?


 Would i be correct that the slit is at an angle? Was the original
object
 a flat sign?

 This was a stationary slit image?

 I'm more familiar with scanning slit cameras.

 Thanks

 Mac

 Hello Guy,
 
 Click on the link below.  It should be the Welcome to the Upload
Gallery
 page.  Then click the Gallery 2001 link.  The first two images,
dated
 Nov 5,  should be should be the ones.
 
 Tom
   Tom Miller wrote:
 (My second reply to this message...)
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-06 Thread Guy Glorieux
Gotcha!
Interesting images.  I have the same question as SPRINGTYME on his
email.
Cheers,
Guy

Tom Miller wrote:

 Hello Guy, Click on the link below.  It should be the Welcome to the
 Upload Gallery page.  Then click the Gallery 2001 link.  The first
 two images, dated Nov 5,  should be should be the ones. Tom

  Tom Miller wrote:

  (My second reply to this message...)
 
  I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion
  list upload
  gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/

  Hi Tom,
  Can you be more specific on the location in the Upload
  gallery?  I looked around but there was too much stuff and
  gave up.
  Cheers,
  Guy

 



Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread SPRINGTYME
Hi Tom!

Very nice! can you explain tmiller_hismaster?


Would i be correct that the slit is at an angle? Was the original object 
a flat sign?

This was a stationary slit image?

I'm more familiar with scanning slit cameras.

Thanks

Mac

Hello Guy,

Click on the link below.  It should be the Welcome to the Upload Gallery 
page.  Then click the Gallery 2001 link.  The first two images, dated 
Nov 5,  should be should be the ones.  

Tom 
  Tom Miller wrote: 
(My second reply to this message...) 
I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload 
gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/



Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
Hello Guy,

Click on the link below.  It should be the Welcome to the Upload Gallery 
page.  Then click the Gallery 2001 link.  The first two images, dated Nov 5,  
should be should be the ones.  

Tom 
  Tom Miller wrote: 
(My second reply to this message...) 
I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload 
gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/

  Hi Tom, 
  Can you be more specific on the location in the Upload gallery?  I looked 
around but there was too much stuff and gave up. 
  Cheers, 
  Guy 
  


Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux


Tom Miller wrote:

 (My second reply to this message...)

 I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload
 gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/

Hi Tom,
Can you be more specific on the location in the Upload gallery?  I looked
around but there was too much stuff and gave up.
Cheers,
Guy



 They are early pieces from my Iconoclast series, which is continuing
 apace (turtle's pace?).  The images are scans of slides of 16x20
 prints.  I'm a newbie at Photoshop, but used it to try to get some
 cyan out of the His Master image that the scan put in.  There
 actually area areas of cyan and magenta in the original print, which
 is why it still looks like it does.  Slit cameras seem to scatter
 color as well as distorting the images.  I've noticed the same effect
 in other color images.

 Tom

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 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

  Tom Miller wrote:
   Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
 some
   of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.
 
  Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
  about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
  pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
  attend.
 
  Cheers,
  Jane
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux
Andy,
It's like in the real life.  Ask any crooked slit how they became crooked
and they will tell you that when they were a kid they used to be straight.
But then they had these friends who would go out in the bars late at night,
etc... You know the story...!  It's the same thing all the time.  I hope
that you'll keep a close eye on your slits when you get some.  Don't let
them go out past 8:00 PM!
Cheers,
Guy

Andy Schmitt wrote:

 I realize this is a truly stupid question but how does one make crooked
 slits
 thanks
 andy

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 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:11 PM
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 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

 Hi Jane,

 A slit is an elongated pinhole that, like a round pinhole, is an image
 forming device.  A slit is about the same width as the diameter of a
 pinhole, but can be up to 2.5 to 3 long for a 4x5 negative.  The
 slit can be a straight line: horizontal, vertical or diagonal.  The
 image formed will take the characteristics of the slit.  If the slit
 is horizontal, the image will be wider than normal; if it vertical,
 the image will be taller than normal.  The fun part of slit
 photography is using curved and zig-zag and right-angle and
 question-mark-shaped and other wacky slits.  Tf there are two slits
 between the image and the film plane, the image will take on
 characteristics of both slits.  This is the second and truly fun part.
 The resulting images are so distorted!

 There isn't a good description of slit photography that I've found on
 the internet (yet).  Good descriptions of slit photography and great
 resulting images are in the Pinhole Journal, vol 15 #1 and in Eric
 Renner's book Pinhole Photography, Rediscovering a Historic
 Technique.  There's more about slits in the second edition than the
 first.  Eric and Nancy at Pinhole Resource sell the Cardozo slit
 camera on their website www.pinholeresource.com.  There is a picture
 of the camera on their products page.

 Tom

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 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

  Tom Miller wrote:
   Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
 some
   of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.
 
  Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
  about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
  pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
  attend.
 
  Cheers,
  Jane
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
I followed Marnie Cardozo's suggestions in the Pinhole Journal and
made slits out of ortho/litho film.  Hung the film in a south window
for a week and developed it in stock Dektol for, well, a long time.
It is opaque and can be cut with a sharp scissors into remarkable
shapes.  (I got the film from Freestyle a couple of years ago.

Tom

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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 I realize this is a truly stupid question but how does one make
crooked
 slits
 thanks
 andy






Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
(My second reply to this message...)

I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload
gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/

They are early pieces from my Iconoclast series, which is continuing
apace (turtle's pace?).  The images are scans of slides of 16x20
prints.  I'm a newbie at Photoshop, but used it to try to get some
cyan out of the His Master image that the scan put in.  There
actually area areas of cyan and magenta in the original print, which
is why it still looks like it does.  Slit cameras seem to scatter
color as well as distorting the images.  I've noticed the same effect
in other color images.

Tom

- Original Message -
From: J.E. Patterson j...@lightjunkie.org
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 Tom Miller wrote:
  Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
some
  of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

 Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
 about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
 pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
 attend.

 Cheers,
 Jane
 --
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Andy Schmitt
I realize this is a truly stupid question but how does one make crooked
slits
thanks
andy

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Hi Jane,

A slit is an elongated pinhole that, like a round pinhole, is an image
forming device.  A slit is about the same width as the diameter of a
pinhole, but can be up to 2.5 to 3 long for a 4x5 negative.  The
slit can be a straight line: horizontal, vertical or diagonal.  The
image formed will take the characteristics of the slit.  If the slit
is horizontal, the image will be wider than normal; if it vertical,
the image will be taller than normal.  The fun part of slit
photography is using curved and zig-zag and right-angle and
question-mark-shaped and other wacky slits.  Tf there are two slits
between the image and the film plane, the image will take on
characteristics of both slits.  This is the second and truly fun part.
The resulting images are so distorted!

There isn't a good description of slit photography that I've found on
the internet (yet).  Good descriptions of slit photography and great
resulting images are in the Pinhole Journal, vol 15 #1 and in Eric
Renner's book Pinhole Photography, Rediscovering a Historic
Technique.  There's more about slits in the second edition than the
first.  Eric and Nancy at Pinhole Resource sell the Cardozo slit
camera on their website www.pinholeresource.com.  There is a picture
of the camera on their products page.

Tom

- Original Message -
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To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 Tom Miller wrote:
  Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
some
  of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

 Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
 about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
 pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
 attend.

 Cheers,
 Jane
 --
 J.E. Patterson
 www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Jane,

A slit is an elongated pinhole that, like a round pinhole, is an image
forming device.  A slit is about the same width as the diameter of a
pinhole, but can be up to 2.5 to 3 long for a 4x5 negative.  The
slit can be a straight line: horizontal, vertical or diagonal.  The
image formed will take the characteristics of the slit.  If the slit
is horizontal, the image will be wider than normal; if it vertical,
the image will be taller than normal.  The fun part of slit
photography is using curved and zig-zag and right-angle and
question-mark-shaped and other wacky slits.  Tf there are two slits
between the image and the film plane, the image will take on
characteristics of both slits.  This is the second and truly fun part.
The resulting images are so distorted!

There isn't a good description of slit photography that I've found on
the internet (yet).  Good descriptions of slit photography and great
resulting images are in the Pinhole Journal, vol 15 #1 and in Eric
Renner's book Pinhole Photography, Rediscovering a Historic
Technique.  There's more about slits in the second edition than the
first.  Eric and Nancy at Pinhole Resource sell the Cardozo slit
camera on their website www.pinholeresource.com.  There is a picture
of the camera on their products page.

Tom

- Original Message -
From: J.E. Patterson j...@lightjunkie.org
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 Tom Miller wrote:
  Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
some
  of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

 Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
 about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
 pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
 attend.

 Cheers,
 Jane
 --
 J.E. Patterson
 www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com

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[pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread J.E. Patterson
Tom Miller wrote:
 Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
 of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more 
about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming 
pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to 
attend.

Cheers,
Jane
-- 
J.E. Patterson
www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com