Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Richard Heather
I use an Exa with a pinhole placed in an extention tube adapter. About 25mm
focal length.
http://www.slonet.org/~rheather/EXA2.jpg
Argus cameras with body shutters like the C3 C44 and C21 markfinder can be
used
An old folder like a balda could have the bellows and front removed and a very
wide angle pinhole placed.
Larger format is easier to deal with for many situations.
Richard Heather

Stephen Rees wrote:

> I have a friend who has been experimenting using 126 cartridges.  They are
> about to go out of production.  He has tried an ordinary 35mm SLR with a
> body cap but the focal length of around 45mm is too long.  Can anyone
> recommend an inexpensive 35mm camera that can be converted into a pinhole
> camera with a focal length less than 30mm ?
>
> ___




Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Gregg Kemp

At 09:33 AM 7/14/01 -0400, you wrote:


Guillermo wrote:

> Hope this images gives you some ideas.
>

Hey Guillermo,
I love your cameras!  Hard to think that anybody could make pictures with 
those contraptions ...  But then nobody in their right mind would even 
think that they actually are image-making boxes.

What kind of shutter do you have on the 12mm body?  Is it focal plane?
Thanks for the pictures.

Guy


Yes, very cool devices, Guillermo.

Gregg
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message - 
From: "Guy Glorieux" 

> Hey Guillermo,
> I love your cameras!  Hard to think that anybody could make pictures with 
> those contraptions ...  But then nobody in their right mind would even think 
> that they actually are image-making boxes.
> What kind of shutter do you have on the 12mm body?  Is it focal plane?
> Thanks for the pictures.

My shutter is a piece of dark foam (looks like a cube) cut to fit snugly into 
the front of the camera, I carved a cavity at the rear of the foam so it does 
not get in contact with the pinhole. I originally used this  camera with a 
0.03mm diameter laser drilled pinhole a pinhole manufacturer sent me for free, 
but diffraction was too much to get images, besides, 0.03mm is optimum for just 
a 0.66mm focal length camera!!.  I substituted that pinhole with one made by 
myself with a diameter of 0.005", that is why you see 2 different f/stops 
written on the foam.  Current f/stop is f/90.  

Here is the shutter:
http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/sf.jpg
http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/sr.jpg

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Guy Glorieux

Guillermo wrote:

> Hope this images gives you some ideas.
>

Hey Guillermo,
I love your cameras!  Hard to think that anybody could make pictures with those 
contraptions ...  But then nobody in their right mind would even think that 
they actually are image-making boxes.
What kind of shutter do you have on the 12mm body?  Is it focal plane?
Thanks for the pictures.

Guy




Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Gregg Kemp

At 09:38 AM 7/14/01 +0100, you wrote:

I have a friend who has been experimenting using 126 cartridges.  They are
about to go out of production.  He has tried an ordinary 35mm SLR with a
body cap but the focal length of around 45mm is too long.  Can anyone
recommend an inexpensive 35mm camera that can be converted into a pinhole
camera with a focal length less than 30mm ?


You may want to tell your friend to stock up if he has a source for the 126 
cartridges - Kodak stopped making this at the end of 
1999.  (http://www.p at ???/diary/1999/1999_July.php)


The 126 cartridge fits perfectly onto a toilet paper tube, and also some 
paper towel tubes.  There is a ridge around the film opening that is the 
same size as the tube.  You only have to bend the tube into a square shape 
to get it around the opening.  I put a pinhole on the end of the tube and 
had a nice "telephoto" 126 camera.  You can also cut down the tubes to 
different focal lengths.  I just added a photo (126bodies.jpg) of my 
collection of 126 "bodies" to the upload gallery:


http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2001.php

I never got a decent image with the paper towel tube, but the toilet paper 
tube did fine.


Gregg
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Rees" 


> I have a friend who has been experimenting using 126 cartridges.  They are
> about to go out of production.  He has tried an ordinary 35mm SLR with a
> body cap but the focal length of around 45mm is too long.  Can anyone
> recommend an inexpensive 35mm camera that can be converted into a pinhole
> camera with a focal length less than 30mm ?

I have 2 examples for you, both are 35mm format pinhole cameras, images shown 
have been scanned with my cheap flat bed scanner:

The first one is my 14mm focal length camera, made out of a Kodak disposable 
camera, I carved material around the lens to avoid vignetting, recessed the 
pinhole to be 14mm from the film plane, for which I used a piece of black 
plastic and glue, the pinhole was then mounted at the back of this black 
plastic.

Here is a frontal view: http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/14f.jpg
Here is a rear view w/o its back cover: 
http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/14r.jpg
Here is a bottom view showing the nut I glued to be able to use the camera on a 
tripod: http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/14b.jpg

Second one is a 12mm focal length camera, made out of a cheap Japanese range 
finder I bought for $3 at a photo fair (had no lens, but good film winding 
mechanism). I also recessed the pinhole lens to be just 12mm from the film, 
glue and a piece of brass stock is all I needed.

Here is a frontal view: http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/12.jpg

Basically any camera can be converted to whatever focal length you want/need.  
I also have a 6x6 with a focal length of 35mm, done in a similar fashion as the 
12mm above.

Hope this images gives you some ideas.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Howard Wells
http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/mounts.htm

This is the address for an extensive list of film to flange distances
which shoukd point you in the right direction. Leica LTM cameras and
their copies make the widest body-cap focal lengths. I convert 17mm
Konica Single-Use Panoramics to wide-angle pinhole cameras. Wide enough
for most purposes. Many cheap plastic cameras have a focal length of
less than 30mm. Old folding 120 cameras also make great wide-angle
pinhole cameras with that big negative. . .
Howard Wells

Stephen Rees wrote:
> 
> I have a friend who has been experimenting using 126 cartridges.  They are
> about to go out of production.  He has tried an ordinary 35mm SLR with a
> body cap but the focal length of around 45mm is too long.  Can anyone
> recommend an inexpensive 35mm camera that can be converted into a pinhole
> camera with a focal length less than 30mm ?
> 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Howard Wells
http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/mounts.htm

This is the address for an extensive list of film to flange distances
which shoukd point you in the right direction. Leica LTM cameras and
their copies make the widest body-cap focal lengths. I convert 17mm
Konica Single-Use Panoramics to wide-angle pinhole cameras. Wide enough
for most purposes. Many cheap plastic cameras have a focal length of
less than 30mm. Old folding 120 cameras also make great wide-angle
pinhole cameras with that big negative. . .
Howard Wells

Stephen Rees wrote:
> 
> I have a friend who has been experimenting using 126 cartridges.  They are
> about to go out of production.  He has tried an ordinary 35mm SLR with a
> body cap but the focal length of around 45mm is too long.  Can anyone
> recommend an inexpensive 35mm camera that can be converted into a pinhole
> camera with a focal length less than 30mm ?
> 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread William Erickson
Get a Holga ($15), cut the lens and shutter off and glue your pinhole
directly to the body or inset it. I think the focal length of my Leica
pinhole body cap is around 30mm. It's nicely wide angle. The Hasselblad one
is about the same focal length as the lens and not very wide angle at all.
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Rees 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 3:38 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length


> I have a friend who has been experimenting using 126 cartridges.  They are
> about to go out of production.  He has tried an ordinary 35mm SLR with a
> body cap but the focal length of around 45mm is too long.  Can anyone
> recommend an inexpensive 35mm camera that can be converted into a pinhole
> camera with a focal length less than 30mm ?
>
>
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35mm Short focal length

2001-07-14 Thread Heribert Josef Gruenbauer
Am Samstag, 14. Juli 2001 10:38 schrieben Sie:

I recommend cheap russian rangefinder cameras ZORKI or FED. Both are 
Leica-clones wich have exchangeable lenses (thread M39).

>| I have a friend who has been experimenting using 126 cartridges.  They are
>| about to go out of production.  He has tried an ordinary 35mm SLR with a
>| body cap but the focal length of around 45mm is too long.  Can anyone
>| recommend an inexpensive 35mm camera that can be converted into a pinhole
>| camera with a focal length less than 30mm ?