Re: [PLUG] Local Domain Hosting ? A semi-newbie question

[Nat Taylor]

"Amazon ec2 Mail issues

Having mail servers in the cloud of Amazon ec2 does have a couple of issues.

   - Spammers set up mail spamming instances in the ec2 cloud. Thus the ec2
   ips are blocked by some spam checking tools. In the postfix howto document
   I tell you how to unlist your public ip. Basically go to spamhaus.org and
   fill their unlisting forms.
   - Amazon have themselves set up restrictions for this. Thus port 25
   traffic of new AWS accounts are restricted. Follow the advice in their
   article
   

on
   how to be approved
   .
   - Thirdly, if you are in the cloud, your mail server is not local. So if
   you sent 50MB files as attachment to someone else, the transfer will take
   awhile compared to a local mail server.

"

- http://flurdy.com/docs/ec2/mail/#mailserver

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:

> I'd suggest nearlyfreespeech.net for a registrar.  I've never used their
> on-demand hosting though.
>
> Hosting?  I'll do you for $1/mo on my jaguarpc reseller account.  We'll
> have to renegotiate if you turn out to be a resource hog, which I doubt you
> will.  Recurring paypal billing.  You could get your own managed hosting
> there for $4/mo (use my email address as a referrer) or get a siteground
> for $3/month (I have no account there, just providing it as a counterpoint.)
> cPanel provides RoundCube or Squirrelmail webmail with pop3/imap for your
> email client
>
> There is AWS free tier if you feel like setting up your own server...
> It's $0.0065 per Hour after the first year.
> https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
> You might be able to find an owncloud appliance for ec2
> Although you might want to go with nextcloud.
> not sure how those would work on the nano instance.  Linode might be
> easier if you're not going to be taking advantage of free tier.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:26 PM, King Beowulf 
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, July 1, 2016, Vedanta Teacher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Everyone,
>> >
>> >   I was thinking of setting up a local Domain and/or website so
>> > that I can have my own email and DROP gmail, hotmail, etc.
>> > so that the email would be something like:
>> >
>> >   b...@blabla.com 
>> >  or
>> >b...@wolfie.org 
>> > or
>> >rav...@idiot.com 
>> >
>> >
>>  there are a number of choices depending on pro to pro-am, high to low
>> usage, hosting/cloud based etc. lots of online tutorials:
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/
>> (for example).
>>
>> I have on old P4 linux server, using iptables/netfilter and
>> https://freedns.afraid.org/ for dynamic DNS (openwrt router firewall &
>> port
>> forwarding), domains and another  www site registered via
>> http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net
>>
>> I'm still trying to find time for email (lots of choices, have sendmail
>> running internally, just lazy...) but mumble and apache running.
>>
>> Its a good learning experience to set it up at home - nice to have
>> physical
>> access to the server and your own linux distro (Slackware FTW!). Its also
>> good not to depend on the vagaries of corporate entities.
>>
>> you'll have research which email server (sendmail, postfix. etc, I don't
>> have a particilar favorite) fits your need as well as keep up with
>> security
>> so that you domain doesn't end up on a spam blacklist.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>>
>> --
>> You! What PLANET is this!
>> -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0
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Re: [PLUG] Local Domain Hosting ? A semi-newbie question

[Nat Taylor]

I'd suggest nearlyfreespeech.net for a registrar.  I've never used their
on-demand hosting though.

Hosting?  I'll do you for $1/mo on my jaguarpc reseller account.  We'll
have to renegotiate if you turn out to be a resource hog, which I doubt you
will.  Recurring paypal billing.  You could get your own managed hosting
there for $4/mo (use my email address as a referrer) or get a siteground
for $3/month (I have no account there, just providing it as a counterpoint.)
cPanel provides RoundCube or Squirrelmail webmail with pop3/imap for your
email client

There is AWS free tier if you feel like setting up your own server...
It's $0.0065
per Hour after the first year.
https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
You might be able to find an owncloud appliance for ec2
Although you might want to go with nextcloud.
not sure how those would work on the nano instance.  Linode might be easier
if you're not going to be taking advantage of free tier.




On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:26 PM, King Beowulf  wrote:

> On Friday, July 1, 2016, Vedanta Teacher 
> wrote:
>
> > Everyone,
> >
> >   I was thinking of setting up a local Domain and/or website so
> > that I can have my own email and DROP gmail, hotmail, etc.
> > so that the email would be something like:
> >
> >   b...@blabla.com 
> >  or
> >b...@wolfie.org 
> > or
> >rav...@idiot.com 
> >
> >
>  there are a number of choices depending on pro to pro-am, high to low
> usage, hosting/cloud based etc. lots of online tutorials:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/
> (for example).
>
> I have on old P4 linux server, using iptables/netfilter and
> https://freedns.afraid.org/ for dynamic DNS (openwrt router firewall &
> port
> forwarding), domains and another  www site registered via
> http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net
>
> I'm still trying to find time for email (lots of choices, have sendmail
> running internally, just lazy...) but mumble and apache running.
>
> Its a good learning experience to set it up at home - nice to have physical
> access to the server and your own linux distro (Slackware FTW!). Its also
> good not to depend on the vagaries of corporate entities.
>
> you'll have research which email server (sendmail, postfix. etc, I don't
> have a particilar favorite) fits your need as well as keep up with security
> so that you domain doesn't end up on a spam blacklist.
>
> Have fun!
>
>
> --
> You! What PLANET is this!
> -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0
> ___
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Re: [PLUG] Local Domain Hosting ? A semi-newbie question

[King Beowulf]

On Friday, July 1, 2016, Vedanta Teacher 
wrote:

> Everyone,
>
>   I was thinking of setting up a local Domain and/or website so
> that I can have my own email and DROP gmail, hotmail, etc.
> so that the email would be something like:
>
>   b...@blabla.com 
>  or
>b...@wolfie.org 
> or
>rav...@idiot.com 
>
>
 there are a number of choices depending on pro to pro-am, high to low
usage, hosting/cloud based etc. lots of online tutorials:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/
(for example).

I have on old P4 linux server, using iptables/netfilter and
https://freedns.afraid.org/ for dynamic DNS (openwrt router firewall & port
forwarding), domains and another  www site registered via
http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net

I'm still trying to find time for email (lots of choices, have sendmail
running internally, just lazy...) but mumble and apache running.

Its a good learning experience to set it up at home - nice to have physical
access to the server and your own linux distro (Slackware FTW!). Its also
good not to depend on the vagaries of corporate entities.

you'll have research which email server (sendmail, postfix. etc, I don't
have a particilar favorite) fits your need as well as keep up with security
so that you domain doesn't end up on a spam blacklist.

Have fun!


-- 
You! What PLANET is this!
-- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0
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Re: [PLUG] Local Domain Hosting ? A semi-newbie question

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, Vedanta Teacher wrote:

>  I was thinking of setting up a local Domain and/or website so that I can
> have my own email and DROP gmail, hotmail, etc. so that the email would be
> something like:

   Namecheap.com is a great domain registrar. Now and then they have a sale
on some top level domain so you can register an unsued domain name in that
TLD.

   I think they also provide e-mail hosting. I have my domain hosted at my
ISP and I run Postfix locally. Back when Verizon owned the copper I had a
static IP address so I could send outgoing mail directly as well as having
incoming mail arrive directly. Now that Frontier owns the telco lines I have
a dynamic IP address and outgoing mail needs to be relayed through my ISP's
mail server. But, mail still arrives directly to my two domains.

   Postfix has a ton of help available and once configured works very well.

Good luck with your efforts,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Local Domain Hosting ? A semi-newbie question

[Tomas Kuchta]

For email/https/owncloud/vpn you really need something hosted rather than at 
home.

The whole thing will set you back about $10 per year for domain + DNS 
(name.com for example) and $10 per month for hosted machine at 
https://www.linode.com/pricing or AWS - if you have the patience to put all 
the little AWS pieces together and figure out your monthly price yourself.

Then you just install your favorite linux distro, email, https, get cert from 
Let's encrypt, setup domain and DNS records properly, so that you get your 
email working, . sky is the limit.

Upgrading or experimenting with your host is easy, just start another host, do 
your stuff and destroy it or destroy the old one. Cloud hosting providers 
charge hourly, so having another machine for one day will coast you 
$10/30~$0.33

You will learn a lot about security, backups and Spamassassin!

Enjoy the adventure

On Friday, July 01, 2016 04:51:20 PM Vedanta Teacher wrote:
> Everyone,
> 
>   I was thinking of setting up a local Domain and/or website so
> that I can have my own email and DROP gmail, hotmail, etc.
> so that the email would be something like:
> 
>   b...@blabla.com
>  or
>b...@wolfie.org
> or
>rav...@idiot.com
> 
> or something like that. I don't necessarily want anything on the
> webpage aside from a front page and a message that no one
> is home.
> 
> Also I hope to set up a non 14 eyes VPN in the next week or two
> so I world need to be able to access everything through a VPN.
> 
> Education, hints, suggestions, flame war are appreciated in advance.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Paul W.
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[PLUG] Local Domain Hosting ? A semi-newbie question

[Vedanta Teacher]

Everyone,

  I was thinking of setting up a local Domain and/or website so
that I can have my own email and DROP gmail, hotmail, etc.
so that the email would be something like:

  b...@blabla.com
 or
   b...@wolfie.org
or
   rav...@idiot.com

or something like that. I don't necessarily want anything on the
webpage aside from a front page and a message that no one
is home.

Also I hope to set up a non 14 eyes VPN in the next week or two
so I world need to be able to access everything through a VPN.

Education, hints, suggestions, flame war are appreciated in advance.

Blessings,

Paul W.
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