Re: [PLUG] Ziply fiber - fixed IP address?
On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 12:53 AM Russell Senior wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 12:17 AM Ron Braithwaite > wrote: > >> I have Ziply and am exceptionally happy with them. >> >> When we bought this house and switched from Frontier to Ziply, we >> discovered that Frontier had *LITERALLY* run the fiver ON TOP OF THE >> GROUND >> from the street to our house when the neighbor cut our fiber connection >> with a weed whacker. > > > Although management changed, Ziply *IS* Frontier, or what Frontier was. > Frontier sold off some of its markets several years ago, and Ziply was the > buyer, and investment group in the Seattle area from what I recall. So, you > didn't switch from Frontier to Ziply so much as Frontier became Ziply. > "Switching" implies it was your choice, and as much as I wish we had more > choices, we generally don't. > It's difficult to keep track of the mergers and aquisitions of telecommunications incumbents, and in the process of reminding myself, found this with some more details of the sale: https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/frontier-sells-off-some-its-wireline-assets-for-1-35b https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2020/05/ziply-fiber-completes-14-billion-acquisition-of-frontiers-telecom-business-in-oregon-other-western-states.html The sale seems to have been announced in 2019 and closed in 2020. Frontier acquired local wireline Verizon assets in 2010-ish. Verizon (then known as Bell Atlantic) bought GTE in 2000. As far as I recall, having grown up in GTE territory, they'd been the incumbent telephone company in the 'burbs since at least 1970. According to Ziply's wikipedia page: "General Telephone Company of the Northwest, Inc. was founded in 1964 following the acquisition of the West Coast Telephone Company and later became GTE Northwest, Incorporated. GTE Northwest originally served Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington." So, to summarize: West Coast Telephone --(1964)--> GTE Northwest --(2000)--> Verizon --(2010)--> Frontier --(2020)--> Ziply -- Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.net
Re: [PLUG] Ziply fiber - fixed IP address?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Keith Lofstrom wrote: Anybody on the list subscribed to Ziply Fiber? Keith, I do. Does Ziply offer fixed IP addresses at the lower bandwidth tiers? Perhaps for an extra fee, or a business account? When Aracnet/SpiritOne suddenly died I signed up for fiber from Verizon. Because my account is for a business, not residence (although I work from home) I was given a fixed IP address for an additional $10/month. While the IP address changed when Frontier Communications bought Verizon, and again when ZiplyFiber bought Frontier, I still have a static IP address and assume I'm still paying extra for it. Perhaps Ziply will provide a static IP address for a residence; ask them. Other Ziply kudos or complaints? I have no complaints about Ziply, only very good experiences. Last year I decided to change the business landline from POTS to VoIP. When a Ziply tech came out to look at the situation we discussed my needs. He recommended a speed upgrade from 50/5 to 100/100. When he returned he replaced the fiber/copper box on the outside wall with their latest model, brought the fiber inside to my office (the former living room), and added their brand-new model router configured for only the telephone. No more fax because I won't buy a VoIP-capable fax machine. I'm saving $30/month from the POTS bill. HTH, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Ziply fiber - fixed IP address?
According to this reddit thread, IPv6 at Ziply is getting closer: https://www.reddit.com/r/ZiplyFiber/comments/17486n5/yeah_i_know_but_gonna_ask_anyway_ipv6_update/ On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 12:53 AM Russell Senior wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 12:17 AM Ron Braithwaite > wrote: > >> I have Ziply and am exceptionally happy with them. >> >> When we bought this house and switched from Frontier to Ziply, we >> discovered that Frontier had *LITERALLY* run the fiver ON TOP OF THE >> GROUND >> from the street to our house when the neighbor cut our fiber connection >> with a weed whacker. > > > Although management changed, Ziply *IS* Frontier, or what Frontier was. > Frontier sold off some of its markets several years ago, and Ziply was the > buyer, and investment group in the Seattle area from what I recall. So, you > didn't switch from Frontier to Ziply so much as Frontier became Ziply. > "Switching" implies it was your choice, and as much as I wish we had more > choices, we generally don't. > > >> We discovered this in the morning, a few hours later, >> someone from Ziply came and checked out the situation. The next day, Ziply >> was here with a horizontal boring machine and strung new fiber underground >> in plastic conduit and we were back in the air in less than 48 hours. I >> like them a whole bunch and I don't mind spending $60/mo for reliable >> gigabit. >> > > Laying service drops on the ground is regrettably not uncommon. Jason > Bergstrom had a similar service drop installation from Comcast. I heard a > story from someone (an internet access activist) on the east coast whose > cable internet service would go down every time the landscapers mowed her > lawn. Instead of installing it properly, they just laid a new coax ... back > on the ground! > > My mom has Ziply now, and it has worked well. I just today sent back their > router, which we needed for her landline phone, after we ported the number > over to Ooma. She has 50/50Mbps service for $40/month, which is completely > adequate for what she does. Ziply internet was just $20/month for the first > year. The landline was costing us $30-something, and about to go up due to > an increase in the router lease fee. Ooma is a little over $10/month. I > don't recall how stable her IP address is. As a low bound, it hasn't > changed in the last week. It might change on reboots. > > One thing missing from Ziply as recently as last spring when I last > inquired is any IPv6 provisioning. You can get free IPv6 tunnels (or used > to be able to) from places like Hurricane Electric's tunnelbroker, and > perhaps others, although they can bottleneck your connections. Comcast > provisions IPv6 routinely, your gateway device just has to ask for it and > boom, you have a /56 (or something similar) provisioned to allocate to your > internal networks as you wish. > > -- > Russell Senior > russ...@personaltelco.net > >
Re: [PLUG] Ziply fiber - fixed IP address?
On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 12:17 AM Ron Braithwaite wrote: > I have Ziply and am exceptionally happy with them. > > When we bought this house and switched from Frontier to Ziply, we > discovered that Frontier had *LITERALLY* run the fiver ON TOP OF THE GROUND > from the street to our house when the neighbor cut our fiber connection > with a weed whacker. Although management changed, Ziply *IS* Frontier, or what Frontier was. Frontier sold off some of its markets several years ago, and Ziply was the buyer, and investment group in the Seattle area from what I recall. So, you didn't switch from Frontier to Ziply so much as Frontier became Ziply. "Switching" implies it was your choice, and as much as I wish we had more choices, we generally don't. > We discovered this in the morning, a few hours later, > someone from Ziply came and checked out the situation. The next day, Ziply > was here with a horizontal boring machine and strung new fiber underground > in plastic conduit and we were back in the air in less than 48 hours. I > like them a whole bunch and I don't mind spending $60/mo for reliable > gigabit. > Laying service drops on the ground is regrettably not uncommon. Jason Bergstrom had a similar service drop installation from Comcast. I heard a story from someone (an internet access activist) on the east coast whose cable internet service would go down every time the landscapers mowed her lawn. Instead of installing it properly, they just laid a new coax ... back on the ground! My mom has Ziply now, and it has worked well. I just today sent back their router, which we needed for her landline phone, after we ported the number over to Ooma. She has 50/50Mbps service for $40/month, which is completely adequate for what she does. Ziply internet was just $20/month for the first year. The landline was costing us $30-something, and about to go up due to an increase in the router lease fee. Ooma is a little over $10/month. I don't recall how stable her IP address is. As a low bound, it hasn't changed in the last week. It might change on reboots. One thing missing from Ziply as recently as last spring when I last inquired is any IPv6 provisioning. You can get free IPv6 tunnels (or used to be able to) from places like Hurricane Electric's tunnelbroker, and perhaps others, although they can bottleneck your connections. Comcast provisions IPv6 routinely, your gateway device just has to ask for it and boom, you have a /56 (or something similar) provisioned to allocate to your internal networks as you wish. -- Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.net
Re: [PLUG] Ziply fiber - fixed IP address?
"Does Ziply offer fixed IP addresses at the lower bandwidth tiers? Perhaps for an extra fee, or a business account?" A quick Google search seems to suggest that yes, you can get a biz acct. w. a static ip addr and even request to have your personal info unlisted. "As of December 2021, Ziply does not have a "category" that is "residential customer with static IP address". You CAN get Ziply with a static IP address, but you will pay Business rates and be serviced by their Business department. In addition, they will allow you (if you ask) to opt out of business listings so your phone number won't get handed out to companies that make phone calls to businesses. " https://www.reddit.com/r/ZiplyFiber/comments/h8o87o/ziply_fiber_static_ips/
Re: [PLUG] Ziply fiber - fixed IP address?
I have Ziply and am exceptionally happy with them. When we bought this house and switched from Frontier to Ziply, we discovered that Frontier had *LITERALLY* run the fiver ON TOP OF THE GROUND from the street to our house when the neighbor cut our fiber connection with a weed whacker. We discovered this in the morning, a few hours later, someone from Ziply came and checked out the situation. The next day, Ziply was here with a horizontal boring machine and strung new fiber underground in plastic conduit and we were back in the air in less than 48 hours. I like them a whole bunch and I don't mind spending $60/mo for reliable gigabit. Now for the downside, it's DHCP, even if the IP address only changes rarely. So I have DNS parked at Dynu.com with store and forward email. My Synology automagically picks up the new address and tickles Dynu DNS to point at the new address. I do need a static IP for a certain project and for that I use Tailscale, which is free for a limited number of machines (I don't come close). Does that help, Keith? -RonB On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 11:54 PM Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Anybody on the list subscribed to Ziply Fiber? > > Does Ziply offer fixed IP addresses at the lower bandwidth > tiers? Perhaps for an extra fee, or a business account? > > Other Ziply kudos or complaints? > > Keith > > P.S., if it matters, I am in Washington county east of > Beaverton, and currently suffer from Comcast - though > with a fixed 32 bit IP address for extra $$. > > -- > Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com >
[PLUG] Ziply fiber - fixed IP address?
Anybody on the list subscribed to Ziply Fiber? Does Ziply offer fixed IP addresses at the lower bandwidth tiers? Perhaps for an extra fee, or a business account? Other Ziply kudos or complaints? Keith P.S., if it matters, I am in Washington county east of Beaverton, and currently suffer from Comcast - though with a fixed 32 bit IP address for extra $$. -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com
