Re: [PLUG] Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde
It is not the desktop environment doing the console, graphical or text, switching. It is done by kernel or by X. The graphic console is being setup by login manager - that is usually tied to the desktop environment these days. So if you run Ubuntu or Kubuntu you will most likely have different login managers between them. That is what I tried to say - if you use different login managers than the ones coming by default with KDE or Gnome - locking the session might not give you the option to start new one. Anyway, did you try to lock the screen - can you start new session and login as different user from the unlock screen? If yes then you should be able to switch between the sessions either through the lock screen or by Ctrl+Alt+F7/8... For different text consoles - Ctrl+Alt+F1/2/3/4/... should just work. If I understand your question correctly. T On Feb 18, 2018 4:12 AM, "Richard Owlett" wrote: > On 02/17/2018 11:07 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > >> I use mainly KDE/Gnome so things are probably different with Mate, >> depending on your login manager. You could change that, I guess. >> > > I don't understand the string "KDE/Gnome". > I thought that KDE and Gnome were both Desktop Environments - an > "either/or" situation. > I gotten hints in my reading so far that KDE has some WM-like properties. > Just color me confuzed ;/ > > >> On the physical PC - I start new independent graphical session by locking >> the screen and starting new session with different user. Switching between >> the session is done by Ctrl+Alt+F7-8-9-... >> >> For remote multi terminal access there is ssh for text or VNC for >> graphical >> environment. >> > > For purposes of my question my universe consists of a single physical > Lenovo T510. > > >> Tomas >> >> > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:47:58 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: >I think you are right about selecting the HDMI input, but the menu does >not appear so there is no way to change the setting. Maybe the menu >would appear if I sent it a DVI signal, but I no longer have anything >that will output a DVI signal. Ah! I do have something with a DVI output - the docking station for my old Thinkpad. The Thinkpad itself just has a VGA output, but the docking station has both VGA and DVI. But just now I tried it and got no results. I think the problem is that the Thinkpad is configured for just one screen and I can't find any way to change it, or to send its one screen to the docking station. Oh well. It's bedtime. Maybe in the morning I'll think of something. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:27:23 -0800 Bill Barry dijo: >I have a similar monitor. It does not automatically detect where the >signal is coming from. You have to switch it to HDMI. The button to >toggle between DVI, HDMI and VGA is the one just to the left of the >power button. According to the manual for my monitor you change the setting with the Menu button, which is three buttons to the left of the power button. But when I push the Menu button nothing happens. Also, I just discovered that I lied. I said that the LED for the power button was not coming on, but in fact it is on. It's just that it shines down so you can't see that it is on unless your finger is over it and you can see your flesh light up. I think you are right about selecting the HDMI input, but the menu does not appear so there is no way to change the setting. Maybe the menu would appear if I sent it a DVI signal, but I no longer have anything that will output a DVI signal. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
I have a similar monitor. It does not automatically detect where the signal is coming from. You have to switch it to HDMI. The button to toggle between DVI, HDMI and VGA is the one just to the left of the power button. Bill On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 9:18 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:49:32 -0800 > a...@clueserver.org dijo: > >>Check to make sure all the cards are properly seated. Sometimes moving >>will knock them out of place. > > It does not have a separate video card; I am using the video on the > motherboard. > >>Does it make any beeps when booting? > > No noises when booting, but there is no video so I can't tell if it > actually boots. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
If the monitor has multiple inputs, vga/dvi/hdmi then double check the input select setting. If you switched from DVI to HDMI then the monitor is probably expecting a DVI cable, and when it doesn't see one says "no signal detected" and clicks off to conserve power. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:21 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:47:45 -0600 > Carl Karsten dijo: > > >> There is strange stuff going on with the monitor too. According to > >> the manual when the power switch is on the LED for it is supposed to > >> be lit up, but it does not light up. > > >not light up = not on. > >Either power isn't plugged in, or it died. > > Power is definitely plugged in because when I hit the power switch the > ASUS logo flashes on the screen. But it flashes for just a moment and > then disappears. And the LED for the power button never comes on. > > I'm thinking the monitor is dead. It is, after all, seven years old, > and t has been running 24/7 all that time. It's just weird that it died > right when I plugged in a new computer. I'm already shopping for a new > one, which is not easy because any monitor I might want to buy locally > is out of stock. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:47:45 -0600 Carl Karsten dijo: >> There is strange stuff going on with the monitor too. According to >> the manual when the power switch is on the LED for it is supposed to >> be lit up, but it does not light up. >not light up = not on. >Either power isn't plugged in, or it died. Power is definitely plugged in because when I hit the power switch the ASUS logo flashes on the screen. But it flashes for just a moment and then disappears. And the LED for the power button never comes on. I'm thinking the monitor is dead. It is, after all, seven years old, and t has been running 24/7 all that time. It's just weird that it died right when I plugged in a new computer. I'm already shopping for a new one, which is not easy because any monitor I might want to buy locally is out of stock. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:32:31 -0800 Russell Senior dijo: >Are you sure the box is booting? Does the fan run? Are there lights? > Can you ping it over the network? I'm pretty sure it is booting: There are lights, fans are running, and if I plug in a USB stick that has lights the lights flicker as it mounts. I could probably ping it if I had a clue what its IP address is. Oh wait, I could see that in the D-Link page. Hmmm, D-Link says that 'Devil10' at 192.168.1.146 is connected, but that is the name and IP address of the old computer, which is sitting in the corner not even plugged in. But I just tried to ping 192.168.1.146 and there is no response. Strange. And D-Link does not show anything that could be the new computer. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:33 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Thanks to all who helped with putting together my new desktop computer > at the Clinic today! > > Unfortunately, it is not working properly, that is, I have no video. > When I got home the first thing I discovered is that the motherboard > video output options are HDMI or DisplayPort. My monitor (ASUS VE228, > 1920x1080) will take VGA. DVI or HDMI. I had been using a DVI cable > with my old computer and I did not have an HDMI cable, so off to Best > Buy. When I got home with the new HDMI cable I plugged it in, but the > monitor just says 'no signal.' I also tried booting to an Ubuntu USB > stick, but still no signal to the monitor. My laptop also has an HDMI > output so I tried that, but still no signal to the monitor. > > There is strange stuff going on with the monitor too. According to the > manual when the power switch is on the LED for it is supposed to be lit > up, but it does not light up. not light up = not on. Either power isn't plugged in, or it died. > And there is a menu button where you can > select the signal source, but it does not come up. The monitor is seven > years old, but it was working this morning with the old computer. > > > I'd call ASUS but I'm sure they won't talk to me considering the age of > the monitor. I'm off shopping for a new monitor, but if anyone has any > brilliant ideas I'm all ears. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Carl K ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
Are you sure the box is booting? Does the fan run? Are there lights? Can you ping it over the network? -- Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.net On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 9:18 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:49:32 -0800 > a...@clueserver.org dijo: > >>Check to make sure all the cards are properly seated. Sometimes moving >>will knock them out of place. > > It does not have a separate video card; I am using the video on the > motherboard. > >>Does it make any beeps when booting? > > No noises when booting, but there is no video so I can't tell if it > actually boots. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:49:32 -0800 a...@clueserver.org dijo: >Check to make sure all the cards are properly seated. Sometimes moving >will knock them out of place. It does not have a separate video card; I am using the video on the motherboard. >Does it make any beeps when booting? No noises when booting, but there is no video so I can't tell if it actually boots. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] New computer
> Thanks to all who helped with putting together my new desktop computer > at the Clinic today! > > Unfortunately, it is not working properly, that is, I have no video. > When I got home the first thing I discovered is that the motherboard > video output options are HDMI or DisplayPort. My monitor (ASUS VE228, > 1920x1080) will take VGA. DVI or HDMI. I had been using a DVI cable > with my old computer and I did not have an HDMI cable, so off to Best > Buy. When I got home with the new HDMI cable I plugged it in, but the > monitor just says 'no signal.' I also tried booting to an Ubuntu USB > stick, but still no signal to the monitor. My laptop also has an HDMI > output so I tried that, but still no signal to the monitor. > > There is strange stuff going on with the monitor too. According to the > manual when the power switch is on the LED for it is supposed to be lit > up, but it does not light up. And there is a menu button where you can > select the signal source, but it does not come up. The monitor is seven > years old, but it was working this morning with the old computer. > > I'd call ASUS but I'm sure they won't talk to me considering the age of > the monitor. I'm off shopping for a new monitor, but if anyone has any > brilliant ideas I'm all ears. Check to make sure all the cards are properly seated. Sometimes moving will knock them out of place. Does it make any beeps when booting? perl -pe 's/^\s+//g' *.py ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] New computer
Thanks to all who helped with putting together my new desktop computer at the Clinic today! Unfortunately, it is not working properly, that is, I have no video. When I got home the first thing I discovered is that the motherboard video output options are HDMI or DisplayPort. My monitor (ASUS VE228, 1920x1080) will take VGA. DVI or HDMI. I had been using a DVI cable with my old computer and I did not have an HDMI cable, so off to Best Buy. When I got home with the new HDMI cable I plugged it in, but the monitor just says 'no signal.' I also tried booting to an Ubuntu USB stick, but still no signal to the monitor. My laptop also has an HDMI output so I tried that, but still no signal to the monitor. There is strange stuff going on with the monitor too. According to the manual when the power switch is on the LED for it is supposed to be lit up, but it does not light up. And there is a menu button where you can select the signal source, but it does not come up. The monitor is seven years old, but it was working this morning with the old computer. I'd call ASUS but I'm sure they won't talk to me considering the age of the monitor. I'm off shopping for a new monitor, but if anyone has any brilliant ideas I'm all ears. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde
On 02/17/2018 11:07 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: I use mainly KDE/Gnome so things are probably different with Mate, depending on your login manager. You could change that, I guess. I don't understand the string "KDE/Gnome". I thought that KDE and Gnome were both Desktop Environments - an "either/or" situation. I gotten hints in my reading so far that KDE has some WM-like properties. Just color me confuzed ;/ On the physical PC - I start new independent graphical session by locking the screen and starting new session with different user. Switching between the session is done by Ctrl+Alt+F7-8-9-... For remote multi terminal access there is ssh for text or VNC for graphical environment. For purposes of my question my universe consists of a single physical Lenovo T510. Tomas ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
