Re: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off?
In my case, I don't generally think to check the time first thing, but then I remember. If you are not running chrony or ntp or something similar, I'd recommend doing so. We have as part of our update procedures a step where time is checked. That can be done manually or automatically. -- Cathy L. Smith IT Engineer Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy Phone: 509.375.2687 Fax: 509.375.4399 Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov -Original Message- From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org On Behalf Of Michael Rasmussen Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:18 AM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off? I was. In my case, it was the web-based email RoundCube. On 2020-06-24 10:22, Smith, Cathy wrote: > Michael > > Are you referring to services? For example, nfs behaves weirdly when > time isn't sync'd. > > -- > Cathy L. Smith > IT Engineer > > Pacific Northwest National Laboratory > Operated by Battelle for the > U.S. Department of Energy > > Phone: 509.375.2687 > Fax: 509.375.4399 > Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov > > -Original Message- > From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org On Behalf > Of Michael Rasmussen > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:04 AM > To: Portland Linux/Unix Group > Subject: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off? > > After my "fun" last week (the wandering time) I've added checking time > consistancy to my list of thing to make sure are OK after a big > upgrade. > > > My question is: would you suspect time being off as a suspect when > other things aren't working? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=0b1d1dc7-57a82308-0b1d37d2-0cc47adc5e60-9d5b8e0aed8bfb8a=1=dd371b22-5666-4b40-87a6-96a1ec32df07=http%3A%2F%2Flists.pdxlinux.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fplug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Anyone use dia? [RESOLVED]
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, Rich Shepard wrote: I'd appreciate a pointer to more advanced page setup than the paper size and margins. I found the dia mail list at gnome.org and subscribed. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off?
Michael Are you referring to services? For example, nfs behaves weirdly when time isn't sync'd. -- Cathy L. Smith IT Engineer Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy Phone: 509.375.2687 Fax: 509.375.4399 Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov -Original Message- From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org On Behalf Of Michael Rasmussen Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:04 AM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off? After my "fun" last week (the wandering time) I've added checking time consistancy to my list of thing to make sure are OK after a big upgrade. My question is: would you suspect time being off as a suspect when other things aren't working? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=c537283c-99821785-c5370229-0cc47adc5fce-28a4a008ab3ce742=1=adb3a065-b9fc-47fc-a471-d7a17f4442a4=http%3A%2F%2Flists.pdxlinux.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fplug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off?
That's a funny coincidence. I've been dealing with gummed up timestamps today. Turned out to be isolated to the office365 web interface since every other application that interacts with that inbox seems fine, even the native Outlook client. Nothing is broken since it's just an error in the way office365 displays the internal timestamp. We have a network service running that skims through those messages and if the times jumped around like that then it could doing strange things. -Ben On 6/24/20 11:18 AM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: I was. In my case, it was the web-based email RoundCube. On 2020-06-24 10:22, Smith, Cathy wrote: Michael Are you referring to services? For example, nfs behaves weirdly when time isn't sync'd. -- Cathy L. Smith IT Engineer Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy Phone: 509.375.2687 Fax: 509.375.4399 Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov -Original Message- From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org On Behalf Of Michael Rasmussen Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:04 AM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off? After my "fun" last week (the wandering time) I've added checking time consistancy to my list of thing to make sure are OK after a big upgrade. My question is: would you suspect time being off as a suspect when other things aren't working? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Anyone use dia?
I'm trying to use dia to create an E-R diagram and want to change the page measurements from centimeters to inches and to understand what the font values (such as 0.70 represent). I've read the manual and searched the web without finding answers. When I first started dia I found a dialog box that allowed me to select points rather than picas for font sizes, and I can select letter size page for each document, but I'm having difficulties making things fit because it appears to be spreading over multiple pages. ~/.dia/ has three empty subdirectories and the menus aren't any help. I'd appreciate a pointer to more advanced page setup than the paper size and margins. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Of Wine, USB and getting them talking
No, if you click on it, it reports as empty. I look at it as a black hole. Stuff goes in but not much comes out Actually you can download what is called the code plug, but the program does that so I assume it is talking to something on that device that does not show up as a file. The funny thing is Wine shows it as device d:, on my win 10 box d; is something else so it comes up as e: On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:19 PM Michael Barnes wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 09:25 Chuck Hast wrote: > > > Under Win10 it comes up as E: removable disk, under device > > Manager it says it is a STM microdevices removable flash > > drive. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:11 AM Chuck Hast wrote: > > > > > It is the control processor of the radio it is a > > > STM32F405VGT6. > > > I can send you the radio service manual if that will help. From what > > > I can see it appears that it is treated like some sort of memory, and > > > the radio code plug (file that sets up the channels in the radio) that > > > is loaded into the radio is loaded into that memory. When I plug the > > > USB cable with the radio into it, Wine says it is the D: drive (well it > > > shows it as d:) I am going to see how Windows sees it and will > > > send you that data too. If you want to see all related to the radio you > > > can go to this page: > > > http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800D_SOFTWARE.htm > > > > > > Here is the link to the service manual where the processor data > > > (what little there is) can be found. > > > > > > > > > http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800/CS800%20SERVICE%20MANUAL.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Chuck Hast wrote: > > > > > >> It is in a radio a DMR radio the CS800D by connect systems, I will try > > to > > >> find > > >> out more about it. > > >> > > >> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 2:11 PM Galen Seitz > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> On 6/19/20 3:26 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: > > >>> > Folks, > > >>> > I have a device that uses an STMicro device in it. The software to > > >>> > program the device is in Windows, when I run the software in Wine > > >>> > it sees all it is supposed to see but the USB part. I am trying to > > >>> figure > > >>> > out what I need to do to get it to see the device so I can program > it > > >>> > without having to go to a Windows VM. > > >>> > > >>> Please describe your STM device in more detail. What is it, what > does > > >>> it do, and what processor does it contain? I do a lot of STM32 > > >>> development, so I *may* be able to help. > > >>> > > >>> galen > > >>> -- > > >>> Galen Seitz > > >>> gal...@seitzassoc.com > > >>> ___ > > >>> PLUG mailing list > > >>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > >> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > >> Ph 4:13 KJV > > >> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > >> Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > > Ph 4:13 KJV > > > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > > Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > Ph 4:13 KJV > > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > > > > > I ran into a device that presented like that a while back. When I plugged > it into a Windows computer, it said it was a removable drive E:. It had one > file in it. I double clicked on the file and it loaded a driver for the > device. Once the driver loaded, everything worked normally. > > This may or may not apply to your situation, but I thought I might share it > just in case. > > Michael > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Ph 4:13 KJV Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. Fil 4:13 RVR1960 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off?
I was. In my case, it was the web-based email RoundCube. On 2020-06-24 10:22, Smith, Cathy wrote: Michael Are you referring to services? For example, nfs behaves weirdly when time isn't sync'd. -- Cathy L. Smith IT Engineer Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy Phone: 509.375.2687 Fax: 509.375.4399 Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov -Original Message- From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org On Behalf Of Michael Rasmussen Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:04 AM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off? After my "fun" last week (the wandering time) I've added checking time consistancy to my list of thing to make sure are OK after a big upgrade. My question is: would you suspect time being off as a suspect when other things aren't working? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off?
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, Michael Rasmussen wrote: After my "fun" last week (the wandering time) I've added checking time consistancy to my list of thing to make sure are OK after a big upgrade. My question is: would you suspect time being off as a suspect when other things aren't working? Some services are very sensitive to network outages, however brief. That's one of the first things I check. Time is really important to file services, but I'm not sure that's what you're including in "other things." -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com 45°38' N, 122°6' W___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Of Wine, USB and getting them talking
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 09:25 Chuck Hast wrote: > Under Win10 it comes up as E: removable disk, under device > Manager it says it is a STM microdevices removable flash > drive. > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:11 AM Chuck Hast wrote: > > > It is the control processor of the radio it is a > > STM32F405VGT6. > > I can send you the radio service manual if that will help. From what > > I can see it appears that it is treated like some sort of memory, and > > the radio code plug (file that sets up the channels in the radio) that > > is loaded into the radio is loaded into that memory. When I plug the > > USB cable with the radio into it, Wine says it is the D: drive (well it > > shows it as d:) I am going to see how Windows sees it and will > > send you that data too. If you want to see all related to the radio you > > can go to this page: > > http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800D_SOFTWARE.htm > > > > Here is the link to the service manual where the processor data > > (what little there is) can be found. > > > > > http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800/CS800%20SERVICE%20MANUAL.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Chuck Hast wrote: > > > >> It is in a radio a DMR radio the CS800D by connect systems, I will try > to > >> find > >> out more about it. > >> > >> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 2:11 PM Galen Seitz > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On 6/19/20 3:26 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: > >>> > Folks, > >>> > I have a device that uses an STMicro device in it. The software to > >>> > program the device is in Windows, when I run the software in Wine > >>> > it sees all it is supposed to see but the USB part. I am trying to > >>> figure > >>> > out what I need to do to get it to see the device so I can program it > >>> > without having to go to a Windows VM. > >>> > >>> Please describe your STM device in more detail. What is it, what does > >>> it do, and what processor does it contain? I do a lot of STM32 > >>> development, so I *may* be able to help. > >>> > >>> galen > >>> -- > >>> Galen Seitz > >>> gal...@seitzassoc.com > >>> ___ > >>> PLUG mailing list > >>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > >> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > >> Ph 4:13 KJV > >> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > >> Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > Ph 4:13 KJV > > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > > > > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > Ph 4:13 KJV > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > I ran into a device that presented like that a while back. When I plugged it into a Windows computer, it said it was a removable drive E:. It had one file in it. I double clicked on the file and it loaded a driver for the device. Once the driver loaded, everything worked normally. This may or may not apply to your situation, but I thought I might share it just in case. Michael ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Would you suspect time as being off?
After my "fun" last week (the wandering time) I've added checking time consistancy to my list of thing to make sure are OK after a big upgrade. My question is: would you suspect time being off as a suspect when other things aren't working? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Of Wine, USB and getting them talking
Under Win10 it comes up as E: removable disk, under device Manager it says it is a STM microdevices removable flash drive. On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:11 AM Chuck Hast wrote: > It is the control processor of the radio it is a > STM32F405VGT6. > I can send you the radio service manual if that will help. From what > I can see it appears that it is treated like some sort of memory, and > the radio code plug (file that sets up the channels in the radio) that > is loaded into the radio is loaded into that memory. When I plug the > USB cable with the radio into it, Wine says it is the D: drive (well it > shows it as d:) I am going to see how Windows sees it and will > send you that data too. If you want to see all related to the radio you > can go to this page: > http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800D_SOFTWARE.htm > > Here is the link to the service manual where the processor data > (what little there is) can be found. > > http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800/CS800%20SERVICE%20MANUAL.pdf > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Chuck Hast wrote: > >> It is in a radio a DMR radio the CS800D by connect systems, I will try to >> find >> out more about it. >> >> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 2:11 PM Galen Seitz >> wrote: >> >>> On 6/19/20 3:26 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: >>> > Folks, >>> > I have a device that uses an STMicro device in it. The software to >>> > program the device is in Windows, when I run the software in Wine >>> > it sees all it is supposed to see but the USB part. I am trying to >>> figure >>> > out what I need to do to get it to see the device so I can program it >>> > without having to go to a Windows VM. >>> >>> Please describe your STM device in more detail. What is it, what does >>> it do, and what processor does it contain? I do a lot of STM32 >>> development, so I *may* be able to help. >>> >>> galen >>> -- >>> Galen Seitz >>> gal...@seitzassoc.com >>> ___ >>> PLUG mailing list >>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- >> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. >> Ph 4:13 KJV >> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. >> Fil 4:13 RVR1960 >> >> > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > Ph 4:13 KJV > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Ph 4:13 KJV Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. Fil 4:13 RVR1960 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Of Wine, USB and getting them talking
It is the control processor of the radio it is a STM32F405VGT6. I can send you the radio service manual if that will help. From what I can see it appears that it is treated like some sort of memory, and the radio code plug (file that sets up the channels in the radio) that is loaded into the radio is loaded into that memory. When I plug the USB cable with the radio into it, Wine says it is the D: drive (well it shows it as d:) I am going to see how Windows sees it and will send you that data too. If you want to see all related to the radio you can go to this page: http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800D_SOFTWARE.htm Here is the link to the service manual where the processor data (what little there is) can be found. http://www.connectsystems.com/products/top/radios/CS800/CS800%20SERVICE%20MANUAL.pdf On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Chuck Hast wrote: > It is in a radio a DMR radio the CS800D by connect systems, I will try to > find > out more about it. > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 2:11 PM Galen Seitz wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 3:26 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: >> > Folks, >> > I have a device that uses an STMicro device in it. The software to >> > program the device is in Windows, when I run the software in Wine >> > it sees all it is supposed to see but the USB part. I am trying to >> figure >> > out what I need to do to get it to see the device so I can program it >> > without having to go to a Windows VM. >> >> Please describe your STM device in more detail. What is it, what does >> it do, and what processor does it contain? I do a lot of STM32 >> development, so I *may* be able to help. >> >> galen >> -- >> Galen Seitz >> gal...@seitzassoc.com >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > Ph 4:13 KJV > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Ph 4:13 KJV Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. Fil 4:13 RVR1960 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any current Arch users?
I upgrade my Arch with yay https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yay/ You type yay That's it! (ok, you have to approve all the AUR (Arch User Repository, which has like everything not baked into the main release)) Love it, been running since forever. It's not that hard to install official Arch, and you get exactly what you want. Installing a desktop environment is easy too. pacman -S (one of these packages) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_environment#Officially_supported On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:37 AM Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Daily driver since 2011 or sometime around then. > > Rolling release, it is all handled by `pacman -Syu` > Do that as often as you feel the need. Or before opening a ticket with > Arch, that's the #1 thing to do with them. > > Kernel switching? As in upgrades? As in having multiple kernels > installed and switching between them? > > snap and flatpack, well I flatpack on my Laptop, and Pop!_OS, where I > want to date versions of the software. In Arch, it is always the most > recent. > I took a look at Manjaro. It seems like the install includes a desktop > environment (xfce, KDE-Plasma, ...) that will get you going faster on > the system. > > On 2020-06-23 23:26, Mike C. wrote: > > > I'm a long time Debian user and former small shop Sys Admin who came to > > fall in love with Debian's stability and the apt package management > system. > > > > Arch seems very modern with its rolling release, ability to switch > kernels > > on the fly and snap, flatpak support. I understand all of these things > > conceptually but I have no day to day real world experience, > > > > I intend to wade into the shallow end with a trial of Manjaro, but I'm > > curious if there are any daily driver Arch users who can speak to the use > > of the kernel switching, rolling releases and snap, flatpak features. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > -- > Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon > Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any current Arch users?
Daily driver since 2011 or sometime around then. Rolling release, it is all handled by `pacman -Syu` Do that as often as you feel the need. Or before opening a ticket with Arch, that's the #1 thing to do with them. Kernel switching? As in upgrades? As in having multiple kernels installed and switching between them? snap and flatpack, well I flatpack on my Laptop, and Pop!_OS, where I want to date versions of the software. In Arch, it is always the most recent. I took a look at Manjaro. It seems like the install includes a desktop environment (xfce, KDE-Plasma, ...) that will get you going faster on the system. On 2020-06-23 23:26, Mike C. wrote: I'm a long time Debian user and former small shop Sys Admin who came to fall in love with Debian's stability and the apt package management system. Arch seems very modern with its rolling release, ability to switch kernels on the fly and snap, flatpak support. I understand all of these things conceptually but I have no day to day real world experience, I intend to wade into the shallow end with a trial of Manjaro, but I'm curious if there are any daily driver Arch users who can speak to the use of the kernel switching, rolling releases and snap, flatpak features. Thank you in advance. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any current Arch users?
Daily driver since 2011 or sometime around then. Rolling release, it is all handled by `pacman -Syu` Do that as often as you feel the need. Or before opening a ticket with Arch, that's the #1 thing to do with them. Kernel switching? As in upgrades? As in having multiple kernels installed and switching between them? snap and flatpack, well I flatpack on my Laptop, and Pop!_OS, where I want to date versions of the software. In Arch, it is always the most recent. I took a look at Manjaro. It seems like the install includes a desktop environment (xfce, KDE-Plasma, ...) that will get you going faster on the system. On 2020-06-23 23:26, Mike C. wrote: I'm a long time Debian user and former small shop Sys Admin who came to fall in love with Debian's stability and the apt package management system. Arch seems very modern with its rolling release, ability to switch kernels on the fly and snap, flatpak support. I understand all of these things conceptually but I have no day to day real world experience, I intend to wade into the shallow end with a trial of Manjaro, but I'm curious if there are any daily driver Arch users who can speak to the use of the kernel switching, rolling releases and snap, flatpak features. Thank you in advance. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any current Arch users?
What do you mean by kernel switching? I just install whatever is current, which is usually in the regular package archives a few days after the stable kernel is released. For example, I'm on 5.7.5-arch1-1 right now. It is possible to get into a situation where you want a kernel module, but you have updated the kernel and not rebooted yet. The old kernel modules won't be there anymore. I ran into this once when I wanted to play with wireguard. You can either reboot, or reinstall the kernel package you are currently running. No idea about snap or flatpak. I've seen more of snap on Ubuntu, frankly. On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:28 PM Mike C. wrote: > I'm a long time Debian user and former small shop Sys Admin who came to > fall in love with Debian's stability and the apt package management system. > > Arch seems very modern with its rolling release, ability to switch kernels > on the fly and snap, flatpak support. I understand all of these things > conceptually but I have no day to day real world experience, > > I intend to wade into the shallow end with a trial of Manjaro, but I'm > curious if there are any daily driver Arch users who can speak to the use > of the kernel switching, rolling releases and snap, flatpak features. > > Thank you in advance. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Any current Arch users?
I'm a long time Debian user and former small shop Sys Admin who came to fall in love with Debian's stability and the apt package management system. Arch seems very modern with its rolling release, ability to switch kernels on the fly and snap, flatpak support. I understand all of these things conceptually but I have no day to day real world experience, I intend to wade into the shallow end with a trial of Manjaro, but I'm curious if there are any daily driver Arch users who can speak to the use of the kernel switching, rolling releases and snap, flatpak features. Thank you in advance. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
