[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] PLUG February 2nd In-Person Meeting SOFT Announcement

2023-01-25 Thread Michael Dexter

All,

I am still waiting on the announcement text from the presenter but here 
is a second soft announcement of the February meeting:


Topic: Ted Mittelstaedt on Zoneminder, the open source video 
recording/surveillance system


Date: February 2nd, 2023

Time: 7PM as per tradition

Setup: 6:30PM with Kevin volunteering. We need to set up chairs

Address: 5500 SW Dosch Rd, Portland, OR 97239

It is the first building on the left with two driveways up from the 
street and can be found here on Google Maps:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/5500+SW+Dosch+Rd,+Portland,+OR+97239

This is in Hillsdale and has the advantage that I have a key and control 
over the A/V. PSU became hostile under pressure from the homeless and 
most public spaces such as libraries follow "business hours", as someone 
kindly pointed out.


The ISP will be making a mail transition and worse case, this is the 
ONLY announcement until that is worked out. :-)



Rules:

Please wear a mask unless actively presenting/announcing

Please help with chairs if you are able bodied

Please do not leave visible valuables in your car. We have had one smash 
and grab situation in the last six months but it involved a 
highly-visible purse in the front seat of a car. (Don't do that!)


Please contribute! Officially they want a fee but I volunteer 
extensively. We'll figure something out.


I cannot say if this is long-term venue, but I have been involved with 
it for decades.


All the best,

Michael Dexter
PLUG Volunteer
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[PLUG] PLUG February 2nd In-Person Meeting SOFT Announcement

2023-01-25 Thread Michael Dexter

All,

I am still waiting on the announcement text from the presenter but here 
is a second soft announcement of the February meeting:


Topic: Ted Mittelstaedt on Zoneminder, the open source video 
recording/surveillance system


Date: February 2nd, 2023

Time: 7PM as per tradition

Setup: 6:30PM with Kevin volunteering. We need to set up chairs

Address: 5500 SW Dosch Rd, Portland, OR 97239

It is the first building on the left with two driveways up from the 
street and can be found here on Google Maps:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/5500+SW+Dosch+Rd,+Portland,+OR+97239

This is in Hillsdale and has the advantage that I have a key and control 
over the A/V. PSU became hostile under pressure from the homeless and 
most public spaces such as libraries follow "business hours", as someone 
kindly pointed out.


The ISP will be making a mail transition and worse case, this is the 
ONLY announcement until that is worked out. :-)



Rules:

Please wear a mask unless actively presenting/announcing

Please help with chairs if you are able bodied

Please do not leave visible valuables in your car. We have had one smash 
and grab situation in the last six months but it involved a 
highly-visible purse in the front seat of a car. (Don't do that!)


Please contribute! Officially they want a fee but I volunteer 
extensively. We'll figure something out.


I cannot say if this is long-term venue, but I have been involved with 
it for decades.


All the best,

Michael Dexter
PLUG Volunteer


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Russell Senior
I posted a link (earlier in this thread) with some discussion of MultCoLib
as a venue. I just checked the hours for Central Branch, and they close at
6pm on Thursdays. Some other branches, e.g. Hollywood Branch, are open
until 8pm on Thursdays.

-- 
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net


On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:46 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Russell Senior wrote:
>
> > PSU was becoming hostile to outsiders even before the pandemic. You need
> a
> > card key (i.e. be an active student or faculty/staff) to get into any of
> > their buildings, even their library. I volunteer as an industry advisor
> > for Portland State Aerospace Society/OreSat and building access even with
> > such an association is problematic. I'd personally love to go back to
> > hosting meetings at Portland State, but figuring out how to get the
> > general public inside remains an unsolved problem.
>
> Does the main Multnomah County library have available, accessible meeting
> rooms? It's not far from PSU.
>
> Rich
>


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Russell Senior
For at least two decades (the length of time I've been attending PLUG
meetings) the General Monthly Meeting has been 7pm on the first Thursday of
the Month (although we occasionally needed to work around holidays, like
July 4th). We haven't met in person since March 2020.

-- 
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:23 AM Sasha Hakakha 
wrote:

> I'm confused, is there a set scheduled meeting time?
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, 10:38 AM Mark Allyn  wrote:
>
> > I thought we meet at PSU.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:22 AM Michael Dexter 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > On 1/25/23 6:57 AM, Kevin Williams wrote:
> > > > Alternative meeting locations would be fine. Are we thinking this for
> > > the March meeting and after? Are we still good for a 6:30 start time at
> > the
> > > Hillsdale location?
> > >
> > > I am waiting on the announcement text for the February meeting and the
> > > official start would be 7PM.
> > >
> > > I can stand by this venue.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> >
>


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Russell Senior wrote:


PSU was becoming hostile to outsiders even before the pandemic. You need a
card key (i.e. be an active student or faculty/staff) to get into any of
their buildings, even their library. I volunteer as an industry advisor
for Portland State Aerospace Society/OreSat and building access even with
such an association is problematic. I'd personally love to go back to
hosting meetings at Portland State, but figuring out how to get the
general public inside remains an unsolved problem.


Does the main Multnomah County library have available, accessible meeting
rooms? It's not far from PSU.

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Mailling bounces messages from non-existant addresses

2023-01-25 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Randy Bush wrote:


a forward to a bad address from what looks to be a good address


Randy,

The recipients mail server tells me the address is not found or rejected.
But, no address in my mail list forwards to another domain.

Thanks,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Mailling bounces messages from non-existant addresses

2023-01-25 Thread Randy Bush
> I have a script that uses mail to send messages to my notification list
> addresses.
> 
> Some addresses are folks who've change employers or retired and I removed
> their addresses from the list. Yet, three of those no longer on the address
> list produce bounces from the recipient's mail server because they're no
> longer there.
> 
> I grep'd all files in the parent directory and cannot find those addresses
> anywhere on my system.
> 
> What might cause messages to go to those missing addresses? Does 'mail' have
> a cache that might include them?

a forward to a bad address from what looks to be a good address

e.g.

you send to foo@bar.  over in bar land, foo.bar forwards to foo.bad.
oops!

take a look at the Received: lines in the header of a message that was
bounced

randy


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Russell Senior
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:38 AM Mark Allyn  wrote:

> I thought we meet at PSU.
>

PSU was becoming hostile to outsiders even before the pandemic. You need a
card key (i.e. be an active student or faculty/staff) to get into any of
their buildings, even their library. I volunteer as an industry advisor for
Portland State Aerospace Society/OreSat and building access even with such
an association is problematic. I'd personally love to go back to hosting
meetings at Portland State, but figuring out how to get the general public
inside remains an unsolved problem.


>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:22 AM Michael Dexter 
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > On 1/25/23 6:57 AM, Kevin Williams wrote:
> > > Alternative meeting locations would be fine. Are we thinking this for
> > the March meeting and after? Are we still good for a 6:30 start time at
> the
> > Hillsdale location?
> >
> > I am waiting on the announcement text for the February meeting and the
> > official start would be 7PM.
> >
> > I can stand by this venue.
> >
> > Michael
> >
>


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Sasha Hakakha
I'm confused, is there a set scheduled meeting time?

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, 10:38 AM Mark Allyn  wrote:

> I thought we meet at PSU.
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:22 AM Michael Dexter 
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > On 1/25/23 6:57 AM, Kevin Williams wrote:
> > > Alternative meeting locations would be fine. Are we thinking this for
> > the March meeting and after? Are we still good for a 6:30 start time at
> the
> > Hillsdale location?
> >
> > I am waiting on the announcement text for the February meeting and the
> > official start would be 7PM.
> >
> > I can stand by this venue.
> >
> > Michael
> >
>


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Mark Allyn
I thought we meet at PSU.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:22 AM Michael Dexter  wrote:

> All,
>
> On 1/25/23 6:57 AM, Kevin Williams wrote:
> > Alternative meeting locations would be fine. Are we thinking this for
> the March meeting and after? Are we still good for a 6:30 start time at the
> Hillsdale location?
>
> I am waiting on the announcement text for the February meeting and the
> official start would be 7PM.
>
> I can stand by this venue.
>
> Michael
>


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Michael Dexter

All,

On 1/25/23 6:57 AM, Kevin Williams wrote:

Alternative meeting locations would be fine. Are we thinking this for the March 
meeting and after? Are we still good for a 6:30 start time at the Hillsdale 
location?


I am waiting on the announcement text for the February meeting and the 
official start would be 7PM.


I can stand by this venue.

Michael


[PLUG] Mailling bounces messages from non-existant addresses

2023-01-25 Thread Rich Shepard

I have a script that uses mail to send messages to my notification list
addresses.

Some addresses are folks who've change employers or retired and I removed
their addresses from the list. Yet, three of those no longer on the address
list produce bounces from the recipient's mail server because they're no
longer there.

I grep'd all files in the parent directory and cannot find those addresses
anywhere on my system.

What might cause messages to go to those missing addresses? Does 'mail' have
a cache that might include them?

TIA,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Alternative Meeting Locations

2023-01-25 Thread Kevin Williams
Hi,

Alternative meeting locations would be fine. Are we thinking this for the March 
meeting and after? Are we still good for a 6:30 start time at the Hillsdale 
location?

Kevin