Re: [PLUG] Debian 12 on VirtualBox
Another option might be to install Gnome Boxes https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-boxes/stable/ On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 12:12 PM John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 14:01:09 -0400 > Tomas Kuchta dijo: > > >On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 13:13 John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > >> ... snip ... > >Before someone takes the trouble to point out to me that to make shared > >> folders work you need to have VirtualBox, the Guest Additions, and > >> the Extensions all installed, and each of the same version. Yes, I > >> do have all of them installed, and they're all the same version. > >> That is, they're installed in the 22.04 host, but not Debian, > >> because they're not in the existing default Debian repositories. > > >You may not want to try yet another vbox fix, me neither, so to that > >end I install both vbox + additions from virtualbox.org, not from the > >distro repositories. Virtualbox.org also host update repositories, so > >nothing breaks over and over after updates. > > > >This (above) has saved me a lot of anxiety, wasted time, . anyway. > > I had already thought of that, but hadn't yet tried it. So just now I > did so, installing 7.0, plus 7.0 guest additions on the host and 7.0 > guest additions on the guest, and still nada. > > But if you notice my reply to wes, I have now successfully logged into > one of my two Synology NAS machines, so shared folders are no longer > worth wasting more time on. Nevertheless, from now on I'm going to > follow your advice and install from Oracle. :) >
Re: [PLUG] Debian 12 on VirtualBox
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 14:01:09 -0400 Tomas Kuchta dijo: >On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 13:13 John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> ... snip ... >Before someone takes the trouble to point out to me that to make shared >> folders work you need to have VirtualBox, the Guest Additions, and >> the Extensions all installed, and each of the same version. Yes, I >> do have all of them installed, and they're all the same version. >> That is, they're installed in the 22.04 host, but not Debian, >> because they're not in the existing default Debian repositories. >You may not want to try yet another vbox fix, me neither, so to that >end I install both vbox + additions from virtualbox.org, not from the >distro repositories. Virtualbox.org also host update repositories, so >nothing breaks over and over after updates. > >This (above) has saved me a lot of anxiety, wasted time, . anyway. I had already thought of that, but hadn't yet tried it. So just now I did so, installing 7.0, plus 7.0 guest additions on the host and 7.0 guest additions on the guest, and still nada. But if you notice my reply to wes, I have now successfully logged into one of my two Synology NAS machines, so shared folders are no longer worth wasting more time on. Nevertheless, from now on I'm going to follow your advice and install from Oracle. :)
Re: [PLUG] Debian 12 on VirtualBox
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 11:05:11 -0700 wes dijo: >On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM John Jason Jordan >wrote: >> I'm having a terrible time getting the guest OS to see the shared >> folders that I specified in the setup for the Debian 12 machine. >I have often had problems getting shared folders to work in vbox too. >I use network based file transfers instead. which type depends on the >situation. "sshfs" would be the closest to a shared folder, but might >be complex to set up for someone who is not super familiar with how to >use ssh. I seem to recall that you have used nfs in the past, which >would also be a good solution to this particular need. Yes, I did once spend a lot of time getting nfs working, but I could never successfully get it working, and eventually I gave up. Debian 12 works great at the internet. And your comment made me think of my two Synology diskstations. Just now, in Firefox on Debian I typed in the address, which popped up a login window, whereupon I logged in, et voilà! To hell with shared folders. Oracle can go suck eggs. :)
Re: [PLUG] Debian 12 on VirtualBox
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM John Jason Jordan wrote: > > I'm having a terrible time getting the guest OS to see the shared > folders that I specified in the setup for the Debian 12 machine. > I have often had problems getting shared folders to work in vbox too. I use network based file transfers instead. which type depends on the situation. "sshfs" would be the closest to a shared folder, but might be complex to set up for someone who is not super familiar with how to use ssh. I seem to recall that you have used nfs in the past, which would also be a good solution to this particular need. -wes
Re: [PLUG] Debian 12 on VirtualBox
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 13:13 John Jason Jordan wrote: > ... snip ... > Before someone takes the trouble to point out to me that to make shared > folders work you need to have VirtualBox, the Guest Additions, and the > Extensions all installed, and each of the same version. Yes, I do have > all of them installed, and they're all the same version. That is, > they're installed in the 22.04 host, but not Debian, because they're > not in the existing default Debian repositories. > . You may not want to try yet another vbox fix, me neither, so to that end I install both vbox + additions from virtualbox.org, not from the distro repositories. Virtualbox.org also host update repositories, so nothing breaks over and over after updates. This (above) has saved me a lot of anxiety, wasted time, . anyway. All that said, I believe that KVM/quemu is better choice on Linux. Despite that, vbox is essential for legacy pre-kvm-quemu VMs. Just a thought, -T >
[PLUG] Debian 12 on VirtualBox
I now have Debian 12 Bookworm installed and running sort of OK in Virtualbox. Thinking about switching t it from Xubuntu 22.04 I've been testing it to see if I can install all the applications that I need. Toward that end I made a list of 70+ programs to install, and started adding them. From the list it looks like about half of them are not in the default repositories. For one of my next adventures I'll see about adding additional repositories. I note that snap and flatpak are not installed in the default, but both can be added. I also discovered that ntp and sntp were not installed, so after 24 hours the clock displayed in the panel was way off. I've never installed a distro that didn't install them by default. I'm having a terrible time getting the guest OS to see the shared folders that I specified in the setup for the Debian 12 machine. The only thing it can see is the optical drive, but that's not an easy way to test newly installed applications with my existing files. Virtualbox is a grand PITA with shared folders, and always has been. I searched up and down the web and found lots of pages with instructions for getting shared folders working, but still no success. You open one web page of guaranteed how-tos, and you start following the list of things to do, and then you come to a line that doesn't work. When you finally decide to move on to the next page of instructions you get a completely different list of things to do, so you start out, only to eventually get to a line that won't work. And on to the next set of stuff that also eventually fails. And every time you think you've finally got it you have to shut down the guest OS and reboot it, always discovering that it still can't see the shared folders. Yesterday I rebooted Debian 12 at least 50 times, always without success. And yet, at the very beginning I swear that the shared folders appeared. I've got some blank 25GB Blu-ray disks. Maybe I should just burn a bunch of files to a disc so I'll finally be able to test newly installed applications on Debian 12. Before someone takes the trouble to point out to me that to make shared folders work you need to have VirtualBox, the Guest Additions, and the Extensions all installed, and each of the same version. Yes, I do have all of them installed, and they're all the same version. That is, they're installed in the 22.04 host, but not Debian, because they're not in the existing default Debian repositories. Wish me luck. :)
