Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-29 Thread Chuck Hast
More info, the original card I inserted was a GeForce 9500 GT, I found a
GeForce GT 640 (OEM) in my card
stash. I put that card in and noticed that the peaks dropped down to the
40+% and the valleys are up in the
30's. The grass is not so high but the area below about 45% is solid no
dead spaces, so it looks like adding
the other card reduced the peak load but filled in the dead spots so that
the average load is about 45% but I
do not see the dead spaces between higher points and I am not seeing
anything go above about 55% (only
momentarily.

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:30 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> I have a slot for another GPU, see if I can find another one out there to
> stick in it, saw a comment that if there
> was space for more than one, that would drop the CPU load even more.
>
> The H264 and H265 cameras do not use a lot of BW for sending video but the
> down side is you need a lot of
> processor to handle the stream especially with cameras that are running
> 2592 X 1944 because all of that
> compressed video has to be reversed and put out there for view.
>
> ZoneMinder is a neat product, I look at all of these low cost DVR's that
> are on the market and I think that a lot
> of them are using ZM as the core and they wrap something around it to make
> it look different. And of course
> the do not use many of the tools and capabilities that are available in
> ZM. I have seen it used for many different
> captures. I have used it to capture a pet doing something improper (needed
> to figure out which one) I have used
> it to capture some critter being a pest, same goes for people. I have also
> used it to capture events on machines
> that I was able to trigger either from improper motion or some other
> source of a trigger. I saw one fellow in the UK
> who had an issue (he and his neighbors) with some turkey driving full
> throttle through their subdivision the cops
> could never get him so he set  up two cameras such that he was able to
> capture cars as they drove through the
> camera view, with a trigger zone such that he was able to write some code
> (I believe it was in Python) and put
> the vehicle speed on the video along with capturing the tag (another set
> of cameras) He got the video turned it
> over to the law and they put a stop to it.  (As a flight instructor I had
> a student who did that same sort of stupidity,
> I cured him but that is a story for a different time).
>
> Yes, ZM some find a wee complicated, but that is due to the fact that it
> can do SO much. If you need a neat
> video capture solution ZM is one to look at. Windows is NOT supported,
> that is one of the first statements out
> of the box on the web site. Do not even ask...
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:03 PM Tomas Kuchta 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing the experience Chuck,
>>
>> Awesome result.
>>
>> -Tomas
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 17:55 Chuck Hast  wrote:
>>
>> > I found a GeForce 9500 GT in my card pile, I looked it up, it appeared
>> that
>> > it would work. Put it in and then
>> > loaded the Nvidia drivers and tools, as soon as it did that I saw the
>> total
>> > CPU load from from 70-90% down
>> > to 25% with peaks at 70% but they are spaced out. Before looking at the
>> CPU
>> > loading on Gkrellm there wa
>> > just a green band at about 70% with grass going to 90+ %. Also the core
>> > temps have dropped by about 10C.
>> >
>> > Thank you very much. Have to see about a newer card for the machine but
>> > that one did a lot.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:56 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Tomas,
>> > > THANK YOU!! I was trying to figure that out. The server is headless
>> but I
>> > > can put two PCI cards (short cards)
>> > > in two PCI slots, as I figure it still needs to process the video for
>> > > storage to the db and also when it is sent to
>> > > a browser or app which has linked to the server. It seemed like most
>> of
>> > > the info was someone wanting to view
>> > > the video on the server even though they still needed to use a
>> browser to
>> > > do so. But I was not clear if the server
>> > > could use the additional video cards or not. Now I am going to find a
>> > pair
>> > > of them. I already found the command
>> > > to check the HW accell. but did not invoke it, as it is I do not
>> think it
>> > > will make much difference right now as there
>> > > is only the VGA output from the Proliant, and that is slow.
>> > >
>> > > for some reason it would not take the install of Ubuntu server, not
>> even
>> > > Ubuntu desktop, but Mate it did take,
>> > > now I just need to go in and remove all of the stuff I do not need to
>> > use,
>> > > and probably make it boot to a console
>> > > rather than a desktop.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Tomas Kuchta <
>> > tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Chuck,
>> > >>
>> > >> I do not know much about ZoneMinder, but its video processing is done
>> > >> using
>> > >> ffmpeg.
>> > >>
>> > >> ffmpeg can 

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-28 Thread Chuck Hast
I have a slot for another GPU, see if I can find another one out there to
stick in it, saw a comment that if there
was space for more than one, that would drop the CPU load even more.

The H264 and H265 cameras do not use a lot of BW for sending video but the
down side is you need a lot of
processor to handle the stream especially with cameras that are running
2592 X 1944 because all of that
compressed video has to be reversed and put out there for view.

ZoneMinder is a neat product, I look at all of these low cost DVR's that
are on the market and I think that a lot
of them are using ZM as the core and they wrap something around it to make
it look different. And of course
the do not use many of the tools and capabilities that are available in ZM.
I have seen it used for many different
captures. I have used it to capture a pet doing something improper (needed
to figure out which one) I have used
it to capture some critter being a pest, same goes for people. I have also
used it to capture events on machines
that I was able to trigger either from improper motion or some other source
of a trigger. I saw one fellow in the UK
who had an issue (he and his neighbors) with some turkey driving full
throttle through their subdivision the cops
could never get him so he set  up two cameras such that he was able to
capture cars as they drove through the
camera view, with a trigger zone such that he was able to write some code
(I believe it was in Python) and put
the vehicle speed on the video along with capturing the tag (another set of
cameras) He got the video turned it
over to the law and they put a stop to it.  (As a flight instructor I had a
student who did that same sort of stupidity,
I cured him but that is a story for a different time).

Yes, ZM some find a wee complicated, but that is due to the fact that it
can do SO much. If you need a neat
video capture solution ZM is one to look at. Windows is NOT supported, that
is one of the first statements out
of the box on the web site. Do not even ask...


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:03 PM Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> Thanks for sharing the experience Chuck,
>
> Awesome result.
>
> -Tomas
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 17:55 Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > I found a GeForce 9500 GT in my card pile, I looked it up, it appeared
> that
> > it would work. Put it in and then
> > loaded the Nvidia drivers and tools, as soon as it did that I saw the
> total
> > CPU load from from 70-90% down
> > to 25% with peaks at 70% but they are spaced out. Before looking at the
> CPU
> > loading on Gkrellm there wa
> > just a green band at about 70% with grass going to 90+ %. Also the core
> > temps have dropped by about 10C.
> >
> > Thank you very much. Have to see about a newer card for the machine but
> > that one did a lot.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:56 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >
> > > Tomas,
> > > THANK YOU!! I was trying to figure that out. The server is headless
> but I
> > > can put two PCI cards (short cards)
> > > in two PCI slots, as I figure it still needs to process the video for
> > > storage to the db and also when it is sent to
> > > a browser or app which has linked to the server. It seemed like most of
> > > the info was someone wanting to view
> > > the video on the server even though they still needed to use a browser
> to
> > > do so. But I was not clear if the server
> > > could use the additional video cards or not. Now I am going to find a
> > pair
> > > of them. I already found the command
> > > to check the HW accell. but did not invoke it, as it is I do not think
> it
> > > will make much difference right now as there
> > > is only the VGA output from the Proliant, and that is slow.
> > >
> > > for some reason it would not take the install of Ubuntu server, not
> even
> > > Ubuntu desktop, but Mate it did take,
> > > now I just need to go in and remove all of the stuff I do not need to
> > use,
> > > and probably make it boot to a console
> > > rather than a desktop.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Tomas Kuchta <
> > tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Chuck,
> > >>
> > >> I do not know much about ZoneMinder, but its video processing is done
> > >> using
> > >> ffmpeg.
> > >>
> > >> ffmpeg can be (is) accelerated using graphics card. I'd imagine that
> you
> > >> might not even need to compile your own to enable it.
> > >>
> > >> I would recommend checking that out.
> > >>
> > >> Tomas
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 12:46 Chuck Hast  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > If you use any variant of Ubuntu there is a setup script that you
> run,
> > >> it
> > >> > gets a ZM system up and running, then
> > >> > starts the good part, adding the cameras. I have a collection of
> > >> different
> > >> > ones so they are almost all different
> > >> > but once setup it runs great.
> > >> >
> > >> > These newer H264 and H265 cameras do not take a lot of BW BUT they
> > need
> > >> > processor, I used to get away
> > >> > with a run of the mill

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-28 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Thanks for sharing the experience Chuck,

Awesome result.

-Tomas

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 17:55 Chuck Hast  wrote:

> I found a GeForce 9500 GT in my card pile, I looked it up, it appeared that
> it would work. Put it in and then
> loaded the Nvidia drivers and tools, as soon as it did that I saw the total
> CPU load from from 70-90% down
> to 25% with peaks at 70% but they are spaced out. Before looking at the CPU
> loading on Gkrellm there wa
> just a green band at about 70% with grass going to 90+ %. Also the core
> temps have dropped by about 10C.
>
> Thank you very much. Have to see about a newer card for the machine but
> that one did a lot.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:56 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > Tomas,
> > THANK YOU!! I was trying to figure that out. The server is headless but I
> > can put two PCI cards (short cards)
> > in two PCI slots, as I figure it still needs to process the video for
> > storage to the db and also when it is sent to
> > a browser or app which has linked to the server. It seemed like most of
> > the info was someone wanting to view
> > the video on the server even though they still needed to use a browser to
> > do so. But I was not clear if the server
> > could use the additional video cards or not. Now I am going to find a
> pair
> > of them. I already found the command
> > to check the HW accell. but did not invoke it, as it is I do not think it
> > will make much difference right now as there
> > is only the VGA output from the Proliant, and that is slow.
> >
> > for some reason it would not take the install of Ubuntu server, not even
> > Ubuntu desktop, but Mate it did take,
> > now I just need to go in and remove all of the stuff I do not need to
> use,
> > and probably make it boot to a console
> > rather than a desktop.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Tomas Kuchta <
> tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Chuck,
> >>
> >> I do not know much about ZoneMinder, but its video processing is done
> >> using
> >> ffmpeg.
> >>
> >> ffmpeg can be (is) accelerated using graphics card. I'd imagine that you
> >> might not even need to compile your own to enable it.
> >>
> >> I would recommend checking that out.
> >>
> >> Tomas
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 12:46 Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >>
> >> > If you use any variant of Ubuntu there is a setup script that you run,
> >> it
> >> > gets a ZM system up and running, then
> >> > starts the good part, adding the cameras. I have a collection of
> >> different
> >> > ones so they are almost all different
> >> > but once setup it runs great.
> >> >
> >> > These newer H264 and H265 cameras do not take a lot of BW BUT they
> need
> >> > processor, I used to get away
> >> > with a run of the mill machine for the old jpg stream, but this not
> so.
> >> I
> >> > am trying to figure out if there is a way
> >> > to use a video card to offload the video processing and zone
> processing
> >> so
> >> > as not to load up the processors
> >> > so much. I have 8 cameras 2 are 5mp 4 of them are 1080p and two are
> >> 720p.
> >> > All told they keep the 380 G5
> >> > loaded at about 70%. The admin console is CLI as it is all done over
> ssh
> >> > (for day to day admin) and web
> >> > browser (to change zoneminder params check a given stream or camera
> and
> >> for
> >> > the full diplay ZMNinja.
> >> >
> >> > I have two PCI slots in the 380, I am wondering if I can use some sort
> >> of
> >> > video card or other processor to
> >> > offload some of the video processing from the processors.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:30 PM elcaseti . 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > "I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy"Zoneminder is the
> best
> >> a/v
> >> > > security setup I know of, but I've never heard anyone refer to
> >> setting it
> >> > > up as easy.  I hope to learn it someday.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Chuck Hast 
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Folks
> >> > > > I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD
> cameras
> >> > had
> >> > > > maxed out the I7 processor on my
> >> > > > original ZoneMinder box.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A summary of what I did.
> >> > > > First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load abending
> >> with
> >> > > > unable to find bnx2 drivers.
> >> > > > Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from the
> >> > stick,
> >> > > > but once loaded it would freeze just
> >> > > > before the login screen.
> >> > > > I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It
> >> would
> >> > > > abend complaining about not seening
> >> > > > the hard disk.
> >> > > > So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I
> >> > figured
> >> > > > what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the
> >> LAMP
> >> > > > server bits and ran an install script for
> >> > > > ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I h

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-28 Thread Chuck Hast
I found a GeForce 9500 GT in my card pile, I looked it up, it appeared that
it would work. Put it in and then
loaded the Nvidia drivers and tools, as soon as it did that I saw the total
CPU load from from 70-90% down
to 25% with peaks at 70% but they are spaced out. Before looking at the CPU
loading on Gkrellm there wa
just a green band at about 70% with grass going to 90+ %. Also the core
temps have dropped by about 10C.

Thank you very much. Have to see about a newer card for the machine but
that one did a lot.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:56 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Tomas,
> THANK YOU!! I was trying to figure that out. The server is headless but I
> can put two PCI cards (short cards)
> in two PCI slots, as I figure it still needs to process the video for
> storage to the db and also when it is sent to
> a browser or app which has linked to the server. It seemed like most of
> the info was someone wanting to view
> the video on the server even though they still needed to use a browser to
> do so. But I was not clear if the server
> could use the additional video cards or not. Now I am going to find a pair
> of them. I already found the command
> to check the HW accell. but did not invoke it, as it is I do not think it
> will make much difference right now as there
> is only the VGA output from the Proliant, and that is slow.
>
> for some reason it would not take the install of Ubuntu server, not even
> Ubuntu desktop, but Mate it did take,
> now I just need to go in and remove all of the stuff I do not need to use,
> and probably make it boot to a console
> rather than a desktop.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Tomas Kuchta 
> wrote:
>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> I do not know much about ZoneMinder, but its video processing is done
>> using
>> ffmpeg.
>>
>> ffmpeg can be (is) accelerated using graphics card. I'd imagine that you
>> might not even need to compile your own to enable it.
>>
>> I would recommend checking that out.
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 12:46 Chuck Hast  wrote:
>>
>> > If you use any variant of Ubuntu there is a setup script that you run,
>> it
>> > gets a ZM system up and running, then
>> > starts the good part, adding the cameras. I have a collection of
>> different
>> > ones so they are almost all different
>> > but once setup it runs great.
>> >
>> > These newer H264 and H265 cameras do not take a lot of BW BUT they need
>> > processor, I used to get away
>> > with a run of the mill machine for the old jpg stream, but this not so.
>> I
>> > am trying to figure out if there is a way
>> > to use a video card to offload the video processing and zone processing
>> so
>> > as not to load up the processors
>> > so much. I have 8 cameras 2 are 5mp 4 of them are 1080p and two are
>> 720p.
>> > All told they keep the 380 G5
>> > loaded at about 70%. The admin console is CLI as it is all done over ssh
>> > (for day to day admin) and web
>> > browser (to change zoneminder params check a given stream or camera and
>> for
>> > the full diplay ZMNinja.
>> >
>> > I have two PCI slots in the 380, I am wondering if I can use some sort
>> of
>> > video card or other processor to
>> > offload some of the video processing from the processors.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:30 PM elcaseti .  wrote:
>> >
>> > > "I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy"Zoneminder is the best
>> a/v
>> > > security setup I know of, but I've never heard anyone refer to
>> setting it
>> > > up as easy.  I hope to learn it someday.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Folks
>> > > > I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD cameras
>> > had
>> > > > maxed out the I7 processor on my
>> > > > original ZoneMinder box.
>> > > >
>> > > > A summary of what I did.
>> > > > First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load abending
>> with
>> > > > unable to find bnx2 drivers.
>> > > > Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from the
>> > stick,
>> > > > but once loaded it would freeze just
>> > > > before the login screen.
>> > > > I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It
>> would
>> > > > abend complaining about not seening
>> > > > the hard disk.
>> > > > So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I
>> > figured
>> > > > what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.
>> > > >
>> > > > At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the
>> LAMP
>> > > > server bits and ran an install script for
>> > > > ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I have all of
>> > them
>> > > > running and the average load on
>> > > > the processors is about 40% Still a wee bit high but all of the
>> temps
>> > on
>> > > > the processors are good and I am not
>> > > > seeing any video getting dropped or other funnies I was seeing with
>> the
>> > > > older machine.
>> > > >
>> > > > The most impressive thing?? Shut it down and let it cool a bit (or
>> > > > something ti

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-28 Thread Chuck Hast
Tomas,
THANK YOU!! I was trying to figure that out. The server is headless but I
can put two PCI cards (short cards)
in two PCI slots, as I figure it still needs to process the video for
storage to the db and also when it is sent to
a browser or app which has linked to the server. It seemed like most of the
info was someone wanting to view
the video on the server even though they still needed to use a browser to
do so. But I was not clear if the server
could use the additional video cards or not. Now I am going to find a pair
of them. I already found the command
to check the HW accell. but did not invoke it, as it is I do not think it
will make much difference right now as there
is only the VGA output from the Proliant, and that is slow.

for some reason it would not take the install of Ubuntu server, not even
Ubuntu desktop, but Mate it did take,
now I just need to go in and remove all of the stuff I do not need to use,
and probably make it boot to a console
rather than a desktop.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> I do not know much about ZoneMinder, but its video processing is done using
> ffmpeg.
>
> ffmpeg can be (is) accelerated using graphics card. I'd imagine that you
> might not even need to compile your own to enable it.
>
> I would recommend checking that out.
>
> Tomas
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 12:46 Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > If you use any variant of Ubuntu there is a setup script that you run, it
> > gets a ZM system up and running, then
> > starts the good part, adding the cameras. I have a collection of
> different
> > ones so they are almost all different
> > but once setup it runs great.
> >
> > These newer H264 and H265 cameras do not take a lot of BW BUT they need
> > processor, I used to get away
> > with a run of the mill machine for the old jpg stream, but this not so. I
> > am trying to figure out if there is a way
> > to use a video card to offload the video processing and zone processing
> so
> > as not to load up the processors
> > so much. I have 8 cameras 2 are 5mp 4 of them are 1080p and two are 720p.
> > All told they keep the 380 G5
> > loaded at about 70%. The admin console is CLI as it is all done over ssh
> > (for day to day admin) and web
> > browser (to change zoneminder params check a given stream or camera and
> for
> > the full diplay ZMNinja.
> >
> > I have two PCI slots in the 380, I am wondering if I can use some sort of
> > video card or other processor to
> > offload some of the video processing from the processors.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:30 PM elcaseti .  wrote:
> >
> > > "I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy"Zoneminder is the best
> a/v
> > > security setup I know of, but I've never heard anyone refer to setting
> it
> > > up as easy.  I hope to learn it someday.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Folks
> > > > I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD cameras
> > had
> > > > maxed out the I7 processor on my
> > > > original ZoneMinder box.
> > > >
> > > > A summary of what I did.
> > > > First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load abending
> with
> > > > unable to find bnx2 drivers.
> > > > Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from the
> > stick,
> > > > but once loaded it would freeze just
> > > > before the login screen.
> > > > I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It
> would
> > > > abend complaining about not seening
> > > > the hard disk.
> > > > So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I
> > figured
> > > > what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.
> > > >
> > > > At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the LAMP
> > > > server bits and ran an install script for
> > > > ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I have all of
> > them
> > > > running and the average load on
> > > > the processors is about 40% Still a wee bit high but all of the temps
> > on
> > > > the processors are good and I am not
> > > > seeing any video getting dropped or other funnies I was seeing with
> the
> > > > older machine.
> > > >
> > > > The most impressive thing?? Shut it down and let it cool a bit (or
> > > > something time out) and then fire it back up,
> > > > for about 30 seconds the fans run up to full throttle, sounds like a
> > > small
> > > > turbine, then it slowly throttles back to
> > > > whatever speed it needs to keep the insides cool.  I guess the other
> > > issue
> > > > will be feeding the thing, but for now
> > > > it is doing the job I need it to do, capture 5mpxl data streams from
> my
> > > > cameras.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The weird thing is that the desktop version installs the bnx2
> module
> > > just
> > > > > fine and  brings up the NIC cards,
> > > > > I get IP assignments for both of them. Indeed I have tried both
> > Ubuntu
> > > > and
> >

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-26 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Chuck,

I do not know much about ZoneMinder, but its video processing is done using
ffmpeg.

ffmpeg can be (is) accelerated using graphics card. I'd imagine that you
might not even need to compile your own to enable it.

I would recommend checking that out.

Tomas


On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 12:46 Chuck Hast  wrote:

> If you use any variant of Ubuntu there is a setup script that you run, it
> gets a ZM system up and running, then
> starts the good part, adding the cameras. I have a collection of different
> ones so they are almost all different
> but once setup it runs great.
>
> These newer H264 and H265 cameras do not take a lot of BW BUT they need
> processor, I used to get away
> with a run of the mill machine for the old jpg stream, but this not so. I
> am trying to figure out if there is a way
> to use a video card to offload the video processing and zone processing so
> as not to load up the processors
> so much. I have 8 cameras 2 are 5mp 4 of them are 1080p and two are 720p.
> All told they keep the 380 G5
> loaded at about 70%. The admin console is CLI as it is all done over ssh
> (for day to day admin) and web
> browser (to change zoneminder params check a given stream or camera and for
> the full diplay ZMNinja.
>
> I have two PCI slots in the 380, I am wondering if I can use some sort of
> video card or other processor to
> offload some of the video processing from the processors.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:30 PM elcaseti .  wrote:
>
> > "I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy"Zoneminder is the best a/v
> > security setup I know of, but I've never heard anyone refer to setting it
> > up as easy.  I hope to learn it someday.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >
> > > Folks
> > > I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD cameras
> had
> > > maxed out the I7 processor on my
> > > original ZoneMinder box.
> > >
> > > A summary of what I did.
> > > First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load abending with
> > > unable to find bnx2 drivers.
> > > Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from the
> stick,
> > > but once loaded it would freeze just
> > > before the login screen.
> > > I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It would
> > > abend complaining about not seening
> > > the hard disk.
> > > So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I
> figured
> > > what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.
> > >
> > > At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the LAMP
> > > server bits and ran an install script for
> > > ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I have all of
> them
> > > running and the average load on
> > > the processors is about 40% Still a wee bit high but all of the temps
> on
> > > the processors are good and I am not
> > > seeing any video getting dropped or other funnies I was seeing with the
> > > older machine.
> > >
> > > The most impressive thing?? Shut it down and let it cool a bit (or
> > > something time out) and then fire it back up,
> > > for about 30 seconds the fans run up to full throttle, sounds like a
> > small
> > > turbine, then it slowly throttles back to
> > > whatever speed it needs to keep the insides cool.  I guess the other
> > issue
> > > will be feeding the thing, but for now
> > > it is doing the job I need it to do, capture 5mpxl data streams from my
> > > cameras.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> > >
> > > > The weird thing is that the desktop version installs the bnx2 module
> > just
> > > > fine and  brings up the NIC cards,
> > > > I get IP assignments for both of them. Indeed I have tried both
> Ubuntu
> > > and
> > > > Ubuntu Mate and both of them
> > > > bring the NIC cards on line using the bnx2 driver.
> > > >
> > > > I was looking at the server install info and supposedly I should be
> > able
> > > > to proceed with the install and if I
> > > > need more software install it later, but it will NOT allow me to get
> > past
> > > > the network setup. So that is FUBAR'd.
> > > >
> > > > Also I see the bnx2 module in there but for some reason it does not
> > > become
> > > > active. Both NIC cards are labeled
> > > > as disabled.
> > > >
> > > > I will continue to plug at it until I get it fixed. It just appears
> to
> > be
> > > > some sort of issue with the server install, who
> > > > would want to run a desktop install on a box like that. It sounds
> like
> > a
> > > > wind tunnel and it will keep the room warm
> > > > so I will not need to run the heat in the winter time in this room
> > (were
> > > I
> > > > to keep it here) These things are just big,
> > > > but the make great DVR boxen for high res cameras on Zoneminder.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 3:31 AM wes  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> When I have challenges like this, I often use a USB ethernet adapter
> > > >> during
> > > >> the install, which uses common enough hardware that drivers

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-26 Thread Chuck Hast
If you use any variant of Ubuntu there is a setup script that you run, it
gets a ZM system up and running, then
starts the good part, adding the cameras. I have a collection of different
ones so they are almost all different
but once setup it runs great.

These newer H264 and H265 cameras do not take a lot of BW BUT they need
processor, I used to get away
with a run of the mill machine for the old jpg stream, but this not so. I
am trying to figure out if there is a way
to use a video card to offload the video processing and zone processing so
as not to load up the processors
so much. I have 8 cameras 2 are 5mp 4 of them are 1080p and two are 720p.
All told they keep the 380 G5
loaded at about 70%. The admin console is CLI as it is all done over ssh
(for day to day admin) and web
browser (to change zoneminder params check a given stream or camera and for
the full diplay ZMNinja.

I have two PCI slots in the 380, I am wondering if I can use some sort of
video card or other processor to
offload some of the video processing from the processors.


On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:30 PM elcaseti .  wrote:

> "I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy"Zoneminder is the best a/v
> security setup I know of, but I've never heard anyone refer to setting it
> up as easy.  I hope to learn it someday.
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > Folks
> > I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD cameras had
> > maxed out the I7 processor on my
> > original ZoneMinder box.
> >
> > A summary of what I did.
> > First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load abending with
> > unable to find bnx2 drivers.
> > Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from the stick,
> > but once loaded it would freeze just
> > before the login screen.
> > I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It would
> > abend complaining about not seening
> > the hard disk.
> > So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I figured
> > what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.
> >
> > At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the LAMP
> > server bits and ran an install script for
> > ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I have all of them
> > running and the average load on
> > the processors is about 40% Still a wee bit high but all of the temps on
> > the processors are good and I am not
> > seeing any video getting dropped or other funnies I was seeing with the
> > older machine.
> >
> > The most impressive thing?? Shut it down and let it cool a bit (or
> > something time out) and then fire it back up,
> > for about 30 seconds the fans run up to full throttle, sounds like a
> small
> > turbine, then it slowly throttles back to
> > whatever speed it needs to keep the insides cool.  I guess the other
> issue
> > will be feeding the thing, but for now
> > it is doing the job I need it to do, capture 5mpxl data streams from my
> > cameras.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >
> > > The weird thing is that the desktop version installs the bnx2 module
> just
> > > fine and  brings up the NIC cards,
> > > I get IP assignments for both of them. Indeed I have tried both Ubuntu
> > and
> > > Ubuntu Mate and both of them
> > > bring the NIC cards on line using the bnx2 driver.
> > >
> > > I was looking at the server install info and supposedly I should be
> able
> > > to proceed with the install and if I
> > > need more software install it later, but it will NOT allow me to get
> past
> > > the network setup. So that is FUBAR'd.
> > >
> > > Also I see the bnx2 module in there but for some reason it does not
> > become
> > > active. Both NIC cards are labeled
> > > as disabled.
> > >
> > > I will continue to plug at it until I get it fixed. It just appears to
> be
> > > some sort of issue with the server install, who
> > > would want to run a desktop install on a box like that. It sounds like
> a
> > > wind tunnel and it will keep the room warm
> > > so I will not need to run the heat in the winter time in this room
> (were
> > I
> > > to keep it here) These things are just big,
> > > but the make great DVR boxen for high res cameras on Zoneminder.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 3:31 AM wes  wrote:
> > >
> > >> When I have challenges like this, I often use a USB ethernet adapter
> > >> during
> > >> the install, which uses common enough hardware that drivers are always
> > >> found in the default kernel module set.
> > >>
> > >> -wes
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > looked in the kernel.log and found the following error message
> > >> > bnx2  :05:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> > bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
> > >> > failed with error -2
> > >> > bnx2  Can't load firmware file " bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"
> > >> >
> > >> > Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it works in
> > the
> > >> > desktop version.
> > >> >
> > >> > 

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-22 Thread elcaseti .
"I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy"Zoneminder is the best a/v
security setup I know of, but I've never heard anyone refer to setting it
up as easy.  I hope to learn it someday.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Folks
> I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD cameras had
> maxed out the I7 processor on my
> original ZoneMinder box.
>
> A summary of what I did.
> First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load abending with
> unable to find bnx2 drivers.
> Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from the stick,
> but once loaded it would freeze just
> before the login screen.
> I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It would
> abend complaining about not seening
> the hard disk.
> So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I figured
> what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.
>
> At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the LAMP
> server bits and ran an install script for
> ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I have all of them
> running and the average load on
> the processors is about 40% Still a wee bit high but all of the temps on
> the processors are good and I am not
> seeing any video getting dropped or other funnies I was seeing with the
> older machine.
>
> The most impressive thing?? Shut it down and let it cool a bit (or
> something time out) and then fire it back up,
> for about 30 seconds the fans run up to full throttle, sounds like a small
> turbine, then it slowly throttles back to
> whatever speed it needs to keep the insides cool.  I guess the other issue
> will be feeding the thing, but for now
> it is doing the job I need it to do, capture 5mpxl data streams from my
> cameras.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > The weird thing is that the desktop version installs the bnx2 module just
> > fine and  brings up the NIC cards,
> > I get IP assignments for both of them. Indeed I have tried both Ubuntu
> and
> > Ubuntu Mate and both of them
> > bring the NIC cards on line using the bnx2 driver.
> >
> > I was looking at the server install info and supposedly I should be able
> > to proceed with the install and if I
> > need more software install it later, but it will NOT allow me to get past
> > the network setup. So that is FUBAR'd.
> >
> > Also I see the bnx2 module in there but for some reason it does not
> become
> > active. Both NIC cards are labeled
> > as disabled.
> >
> > I will continue to plug at it until I get it fixed. It just appears to be
> > some sort of issue with the server install, who
> > would want to run a desktop install on a box like that. It sounds like a
> > wind tunnel and it will keep the room warm
> > so I will not need to run the heat in the winter time in this room (were
> I
> > to keep it here) These things are just big,
> > but the make great DVR boxen for high res cameras on Zoneminder.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 3:31 AM wes  wrote:
> >
> >> When I have challenges like this, I often use a USB ethernet adapter
> >> during
> >> the install, which uses common enough hardware that drivers are always
> >> found in the default kernel module set.
> >>
> >> -wes
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >>
> >> > looked in the kernel.log and found the following error message
> >> > bnx2  :05:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
> >> > failed with error -2
> >> > bnx2  Can't load firmware file " bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"
> >> >
> >> > Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it works in
> the
> >> > desktop version.
> >> >
> >> > It LOOKS like the bnx2 module is in there, but if you try to insmod
> it,
> >> the
> >> > system comes back saying it doesn't
> >> > exist, if you look back in /sys/modules it is no longer there.  I also
> >> got
> >> > a pix of the system as it is setting up
> >> > the second line above is what is flashed on the screen. I am trying to
> >> > figure out how to work around this one.
> >> > Not sure what is going on with Ubuntu Live Server,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > The driver is bnx2,  I think as Server is loading I see some red
> lines
> >> > > flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
> >> > > either it is missing or not loading for some reason.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs
> >> to be
> >> > >> able to pull down some software, It would
> >> > >> appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No
> big
> >> > deal
> >> > >> but kind of hoky given that the DT
> >> > >> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather
> than
> >> > the
> >> > >> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
> >> > >> just have to

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-22 Thread Chuck Hast
Folks
I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD cameras had
maxed out the I7 processor on my
original ZoneMinder box.

A summary of what I did.
First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load abending with
unable to find bnx2 drivers.
Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from the stick,
but once loaded it would freeze just
before the login screen.
I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It would
abend complaining about not seening
the hard disk.
So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I figured
what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.

At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the LAMP
server bits and ran an install script for
ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I have all of them
running and the average load on
the processors is about 40% Still a wee bit high but all of the temps on
the processors are good and I am not
seeing any video getting dropped or other funnies I was seeing with the
older machine.

The most impressive thing?? Shut it down and let it cool a bit (or
something time out) and then fire it back up,
for about 30 seconds the fans run up to full throttle, sounds like a small
turbine, then it slowly throttles back to
whatever speed it needs to keep the insides cool.  I guess the other issue
will be feeding the thing, but for now
it is doing the job I need it to do, capture 5mpxl data streams from my
cameras.


On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> The weird thing is that the desktop version installs the bnx2 module just
> fine and  brings up the NIC cards,
> I get IP assignments for both of them. Indeed I have tried both Ubuntu and
> Ubuntu Mate and both of them
> bring the NIC cards on line using the bnx2 driver.
>
> I was looking at the server install info and supposedly I should be able
> to proceed with the install and if I
> need more software install it later, but it will NOT allow me to get past
> the network setup. So that is FUBAR'd.
>
> Also I see the bnx2 module in there but for some reason it does not become
> active. Both NIC cards are labeled
> as disabled.
>
> I will continue to plug at it until I get it fixed. It just appears to be
> some sort of issue with the server install, who
> would want to run a desktop install on a box like that. It sounds like a
> wind tunnel and it will keep the room warm
> so I will not need to run the heat in the winter time in this room (were I
> to keep it here) These things are just big,
> but the make great DVR boxen for high res cameras on Zoneminder.
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 3:31 AM wes  wrote:
>
>> When I have challenges like this, I often use a USB ethernet adapter
>> during
>> the install, which uses common enough hardware that drivers are always
>> found in the default kernel module set.
>>
>> -wes
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>>
>> > looked in the kernel.log and found the following error message
>> > bnx2  :05:00.0: Direct firmware load for bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
>> > failed with error -2
>> > bnx2  Can't load firmware file " bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"
>> >
>> > Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it works in the
>> > desktop version.
>> >
>> > It LOOKS like the bnx2 module is in there, but if you try to insmod it,
>> the
>> > system comes back saying it doesn't
>> > exist, if you look back in /sys/modules it is no longer there.  I also
>> got
>> > a pix of the system as it is setting up
>> > the second line above is what is flashed on the screen. I am trying to
>> > figure out how to work around this one.
>> > Not sure what is going on with Ubuntu Live Server,
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>> >
>> > > The driver is bnx2,  I think as Server is loading I see some red lines
>> > > flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
>> > > either it is missing or not loading for some reason.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs
>> to be
>> > >> able to pull down some software, It would
>> > >> appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No big
>> > deal
>> > >> but kind of hoky given that the DT
>> > >> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
>> > >>
>> > >> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather than
>> > the
>> > >> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
>> > >> just have to see how to do it.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole
>> > >>> probably 3 screens of data. The first thing
>> > >>> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing,
>> only
>> > >>> the loop back.
>> > >>> This is under Ubuntu server...
>> > >>> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports
>> just
>> > >>> fine.
>> 

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-08 Thread Chuck Hast
The weird thing is that the desktop version installs the bnx2 module just
fine and  brings up the NIC cards,
I get IP assignments for both of them. Indeed I have tried both Ubuntu and
Ubuntu Mate and both of them
bring the NIC cards on line using the bnx2 driver.

I was looking at the server install info and supposedly I should be able to
proceed with the install and if I
need more software install it later, but it will NOT allow me to get past
the network setup. So that is FUBAR'd.

Also I see the bnx2 module in there but for some reason it does not become
active. Both NIC cards are labeled
as disabled.

I will continue to plug at it until I get it fixed. It just appears to be
some sort of issue with the server install, who
would want to run a desktop install on a box like that. It sounds like a
wind tunnel and it will keep the room warm
so I will not need to run the heat in the winter time in this room (were I
to keep it here) These things are just big,
but the make great DVR boxen for high res cameras on Zoneminder.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 3:31 AM wes  wrote:

> When I have challenges like this, I often use a USB ethernet adapter during
> the install, which uses common enough hardware that drivers are always
> found in the default kernel module set.
>
> -wes
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > looked in the kernel.log and found the following error message
> > bnx2  :05:00.0: Direct firmware load for bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
> > failed with error -2
> > bnx2  Can't load firmware file " bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"
> >
> > Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it works in the
> > desktop version.
> >
> > It LOOKS like the bnx2 module is in there, but if you try to insmod it,
> the
> > system comes back saying it doesn't
> > exist, if you look back in /sys/modules it is no longer there.  I also
> got
> > a pix of the system as it is setting up
> > the second line above is what is flashed on the screen. I am trying to
> > figure out how to work around this one.
> > Not sure what is going on with Ubuntu Live Server,
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >
> > > The driver is bnx2,  I think as Server is loading I see some red lines
> > > flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
> > > either it is missing or not loading for some reason.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs to
> be
> > >> able to pull down some software, It would
> > >> appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No big
> > deal
> > >> but kind of hoky given that the DT
> > >> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
> > >>
> > >> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather than
> > the
> > >> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
> > >> just have to see how to do it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole
> > >>> probably 3 screens of data. The first thing
> > >>> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing,
> only
> > >>> the loop back.
> > >>> This is under Ubuntu server...
> > >>> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports
> just
> > >>> fine.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM  wrote:
> > >>>
> > 
> > 
> >  > Folks,
> >  > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the
> >  glass
> >  > plant.
> >  > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they
> >  wanted
> >  > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one
> > and
> >  then
> >  > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not
> > even
> >  > know
> >  > it was
> >  > working.
> >  >
> >  > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant
> DL380
> > G5
> >  > which
> >  > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC
> >  setup it
> >  > says
> >  > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP
> is
> >  > selected
> >  > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
> >  >
> >  > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person
> had
> > a
> >  URL
> >  > that
> >  > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file
> would
> >  not
> >  > read.
> >  >
> >  > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards
> >  and it
> >  > obtains addresses
> >  > for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
> >  >
> >  > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version
> not
> >  take
> >  > the NIC
> >  > cards but the desktop does?
> > 
> >  ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is
> loading
> >  in
> > >>>

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-08 Thread wes
When I have challenges like this, I often use a USB ethernet adapter during
the install, which uses common enough hardware that drivers are always
found in the default kernel module set.

-wes

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> looked in the kernel.log and found the following error message
> bnx2  :05:00.0: Direct firmware load for bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
> failed with error -2
> bnx2  Can't load firmware file " bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"
>
> Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it works in the
> desktop version.
>
> It LOOKS like the bnx2 module is in there, but if you try to insmod it, the
> system comes back saying it doesn't
> exist, if you look back in /sys/modules it is no longer there.  I also got
> a pix of the system as it is setting up
> the second line above is what is flashed on the screen. I am trying to
> figure out how to work around this one.
> Not sure what is going on with Ubuntu Live Server,
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > The driver is bnx2,  I think as Server is loading I see some red lines
> > flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
> > either it is missing or not loading for some reason.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >
> >> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs to be
> >> able to pull down some software, It would
> >> appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No big
> deal
> >> but kind of hoky given that the DT
> >> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
> >>
> >> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather than
> the
> >> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
> >> just have to see how to do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole
> >>> probably 3 screens of data. The first thing
> >>> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing, only
> >>> the loop back.
> >>> This is under Ubuntu server...
> >>> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports just
> >>> fine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM  wrote:
> >>>
> 
> 
>  > Folks,
>  > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the
>  glass
>  > plant.
>  > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they
>  wanted
>  > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one
> and
>  then
>  > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not
> even
>  > know
>  > it was
>  > working.
>  >
>  > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380
> G5
>  > which
>  > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC
>  setup it
>  > says
>  > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
>  > selected
>  > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
>  >
>  > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had
> a
>  URL
>  > that
>  > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would
>  not
>  > read.
>  >
>  > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards
>  and it
>  > obtains addresses
>  > for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
>  >
>  > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not
>  take
>  > the NIC
>  > cards but the desktop does?
> 
>  ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is loading
>  in
>  both versions.
> 
>  ---
>  Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
>  A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
> 
>  ___
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> >>> Ph 4:13 KJV
> >>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> >>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> >> Ph 4:13 KJV
> >> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> >> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-07 Thread Ben Koenig
Sounds like you need to install the corresponding firmware package. A lot
of broadcom chips have in-kernel drivers, but you need the firmware for it
to actually bring up the card.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 7:39 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> looked in the kernel.log and found the following error message
> bnx2  :05:00.0: Direct firmware load for bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
> failed with error -2
> bnx2  Can't load firmware file " bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"
>
> Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it works in the
> desktop version.
>
> It LOOKS like the bnx2 module is in there, but if you try to insmod it, the
> system comes back saying it doesn't
> exist, if you look back in /sys/modules it is no longer there.  I also got
> a pix of the system as it is setting up
> the second line above is what is flashed on the screen. I am trying to
> figure out how to work around this one.
> Not sure what is going on with Ubuntu Live Server,
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > The driver is bnx2,  I think as Server is loading I see some red lines
> > flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
> > either it is missing or not loading for some reason.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >
> >> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs to be
> >> able to pull down some software, It would
> >> appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No big
> deal
> >> but kind of hoky given that the DT
> >> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
> >>
> >> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather than
> the
> >> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
> >> just have to see how to do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole
> >>> probably 3 screens of data. The first thing
> >>> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing, only
> >>> the loop back.
> >>> This is under Ubuntu server...
> >>> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports just
> >>> fine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM  wrote:
> >>>
> 
> 
>  > Folks,
>  > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the
>  glass
>  > plant.
>  > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they
>  wanted
>  > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one
> and
>  then
>  > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not
> even
>  > know
>  > it was
>  > working.
>  >
>  > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380
> G5
>  > which
>  > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC
>  setup it
>  > says
>  > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
>  > selected
>  > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
>  >
>  > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had
> a
>  URL
>  > that
>  > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would
>  not
>  > read.
>  >
>  > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards
>  and it
>  > obtains addresses
>  > for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
>  >
>  > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not
>  take
>  > the NIC
>  > cards but the desktop does?
> 
>  ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is loading
>  in
>  both versions.
> 
>  ---
>  Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
>  A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
> 
>  ___
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> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> >>> Ph 4:13 KJV
> >>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> >>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> >> Ph 4:13 KJV
> >> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> >> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-07 Thread Chuck Hast
looked in the kernel.log and found the following error message
bnx2  :05:00.0: Direct firmware load for bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
failed with error -2
bnx2  Can't load firmware file " bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"

Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it works in the
desktop version.

It LOOKS like the bnx2 module is in there, but if you try to insmod it, the
system comes back saying it doesn't
exist, if you look back in /sys/modules it is no longer there.  I also got
a pix of the system as it is setting up
the second line above is what is flashed on the screen. I am trying to
figure out how to work around this one.
Not sure what is going on with Ubuntu Live Server,


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:42 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> The driver is bnx2,  I think as Server is loading I see some red lines
> flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
> either it is missing or not loading for some reason.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
>> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs to be
>> able to pull down some software, It would
>> appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No big deal
>> but kind of hoky given that the DT
>> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
>>
>> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather than the
>> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
>> just have to see how to do it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>>
>>> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole
>>> probably 3 screens of data. The first thing
>>> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing, only
>>> the loop back.
>>> This is under Ubuntu server...
>>> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports just
>>> fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM  wrote:
>>>


 > Folks,
 > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the
 glass
 > plant.
 > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they
 wanted
 > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one and
 then
 > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not even
 > know
 > it was
 > working.
 >
 > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380 G5
 > which
 > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC
 setup it
 > says
 > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
 > selected
 > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
 >
 > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had a
 URL
 > that
 > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would
 not
 > read.
 >
 > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards
 and it
 > obtains addresses
 > for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
 >
 > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not
 take
 > the NIC
 > cards but the desktop does?

 ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is loading
 in
 both versions.

 ---
 Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
 A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.

 ___
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
>>> Ph 4:13 KJV
>>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
>>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
>> Ph 4:13 KJV
>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>
>

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-07 Thread Chuck Hast
The driver is bnx2,  I think as Server is loading I see some red lines
flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
either it is missing or not loading for some reason.


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs to be
> able to pull down some software, It would
> appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No big deal
> but kind of hoky given that the DT
> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
>
> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather than the
> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
> just have to see how to do it.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
>> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole
>> probably 3 screens of data. The first thing
>> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing, only
>> the loop back.
>> This is under Ubuntu server...
>> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports just
>> fine.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Folks,
>>> > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the
>>> glass
>>> > plant.
>>> > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they
>>> wanted
>>> > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one and
>>> then
>>> > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not even
>>> > know
>>> > it was
>>> > working.
>>> >
>>> > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380 G5
>>> > which
>>> > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC
>>> setup it
>>> > says
>>> > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
>>> > selected
>>> > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
>>> >
>>> > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had a
>>> URL
>>> > that
>>> > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would
>>> not
>>> > read.
>>> >
>>> > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards and
>>> it
>>> > obtains addresses
>>> > for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
>>> >
>>> > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not
>>> take
>>> > the NIC
>>> > cards but the desktop does?
>>>
>>> ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is loading in
>>> both versions.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
>>> A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
>>>
>>> ___
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
>> Ph 4:13 KJV
>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>
>

-- 

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-07 Thread Chuck Hast
I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live Server needs to be
able to pull down some software, It would
appear that I am going to have to set up a static connection (No big deal
but kind of hoky given that the DT
version can find both NICs perfectly well.

I also found that there is a way to use the Deb installer rather than the
Live server installer, that I much prefer,
just have to see how to do it.


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole probably
> 3 screens of data. The first thing
> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing, only
> the loop back.
> This is under Ubuntu server...
> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports just
> fine.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > Folks,
>> > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the glass
>> > plant.
>> > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they
>> wanted
>> > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one and
>> then
>> > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not even
>> > know
>> > it was
>> > working.
>> >
>> > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380 G5
>> > which
>> > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC setup
>> it
>> > says
>> > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
>> > selected
>> > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
>> >
>> > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had a
>> URL
>> > that
>> > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would not
>> > read.
>> >
>> > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards and
>> it
>> > obtains addresses
>> > for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
>> >
>> > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not
>> take
>> > the NIC
>> > cards but the desktop does?
>>
>> ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is loading in
>> both versions.
>>
>> ---
>> Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
>> A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
>>
>> ___
>> PLUG mailing list
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>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>
>

-- 

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-07 Thread Chuck Hast
Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and got a whole probably
3 screens of data. The first thing
it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it sees nothing, only the
loop back.
This is under Ubuntu server...
Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the NIC ports just fine.


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM  wrote:

>
>
> > Folks,
> > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the glass
> > plant.
> > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they wanted
> > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one and
> then
> > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not even
> > know
> > it was
> > working.
> >
> > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380 G5
> > which
> > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC setup
> it
> > says
> > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
> > selected
> > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
> >
> > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had a URL
> > that
> > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would not
> > read.
> >
> > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards and it
> > obtains addresses
> > for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
> >
> > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not take
> > the NIC
> > cards but the desktop does?
>
> ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is loading in
> both versions.
>
> ---
> Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
> A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-07 Thread alan



> Folks,
> I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the glass
> plant.
> They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they wanted
> cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one and then
> I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not even
> know
> it was
> working.
>
> I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380 G5
> which
> I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC setup it
> says
> DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
> selected
> but no joy. Never had that problem before.
>
> I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had a URL
> that
> took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would not
> read.
>
> If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards and it
> obtains addresses
> for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)
>
> Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not take
> the NIC
> cards but the desktop does?

ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See if it is loading in
both versions.

---
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A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.

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[PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2019-08-07 Thread Chuck Hast
Folks,
I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and worked at the glass
plant.
They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing nothing, they wanted
cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu server on one and then
I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that server did not even know
it was
working.

I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a  HP ProLiant DL380 G5 which
I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I get to the NIC setup it
says
DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make sure that DHCP is
selected
but no joy. Never had that problem before.

I saw one person on line who had a similar problem, this person had a URL
that
took you to a different version of Ubuntu server, but the file would not
read.

If I load in the regular desktop version it does see the NIC cards and it
obtains addresses
for both ports (I plug them both into active networks)

Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the server version not take
the NIC
cards but the desktop does?

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Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
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