Re: ISPConfig
On 2021-05-10 00:47, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hmmm. It seems to me like ISPConfig might be a bit more than needed for running a home server or two. Now, as for my situation, I also am on a cox business class circuit (recently upgraded to 100 Gbits/sec downstream and 20 Gbits/sec upstream. The Nighthawk brand router I have in place for my firewall/wifi node is ok, but honestly, I would rather have a linux laptop running as the firewall. I could do a lot more with that than the current hardware (including having a speech engine running on it for those times when I need to do something in console mode). At least, with linux (or one of the *BSD’s), I have a lot more control over what I want to do. Given some of the lessons learned over the years, I would have pass throughs on separate virtual subnets for external servers (like a tor node, web server, etc). Let the laptop be a dedicated firewall. Only two issues might make this a bit of a problem: 1. The laptop would have to have at least 2 ethernet ports on it, and as far as I know, that’s actually quite rare 2. Setting up virtual subnets answerable through a single ethernet device are a real pain. Failing that, perhaps a small desktop machine (MicroATX with some spare slots, 4 GB of ram and a small SSD) would be more appropriate. Then I could add a 5 port ethernet card on a PCI—x slot and also have a couple of other goodies runnin. Thoughts? Also, will ISPConfig actually run under Linux or is it one of those silly windows only apps? I only ask this because I have seen the windows installer for it but haven’t run across the linux or BSD versions of it yet. I was unaware it runs on Win. I'm looking to run it on Ubuntu LTS -Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data center operations dept. On May 9, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: Thank you for your reply. I'll checkout Ajenti. - - - On 2021-05-09 13:24, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Ajenti might be a bit more what you are looking for. It is less ISP hosting oriented, and more for general single-server management. On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:09 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: I should have given more info. I am not a system admin I am a PHP developer. I think I know a fair amount about Linux when it comes to PHP/MySql hosting. For instance I used an old laptop to create a development environment using my Cox business connection and for DNS I use ZoneEdit. I think it might be running Ubuntu 218.04LTS. Mail and DNS are beyond my limits. I do understand DNS, however I could know more. About 6 years ago a friend built me a complete web server on an old desktop that way just laying around. It worked well. Based on that I bought a Dell i3 with 8G of RAM. I was going to do all my hosting locally ... I know foolish... But it was a learning project. Fast forward 6 years or so and the i3 has never been used. I'm pretty sure about 3 years ago I swapped the spinner for an SSD. Another friend who owns a data center asked me to evaluate ISPConfig maybe 3 years ago. I found it confusing and there was little information available beyond what ISPConfig provided. So here I sit with and i3, a copy of Ubuntu 20.04LTS, and an Internet connection that does not block ports. Currently I am hosting my websites on a VPS that is managed by Plesk. Plesk is really nice and has so many features I'm sure I have missed some opportunity. Based on all of this I do not want to do away with my VPS I just want to configure that now old i3 and play around with it. What I am looking for: 1) Automate creating vhost accounts. ( I think I read that ISPConfig is a replacement for WHM and Cpanel) 2) Automate creating DNS zone files. 3) Automate creating email accounts. 4) Automate registering and configuring Let's Encrypt certs. Basically something that does for me what Plesk does for me. I am not a mail man nor is DNS really something I would like to manage by hand - maybe sometime in the future. Thank You for All Your Feedback!! - - - On 2021-05-08 20:22, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: ISPConfig is a web application so other people can host websites on your stuff. It's a fat stack to maintain, and as such will take much more time to work with than just standing up a webserver. If you're looking at learning ISPConfig, then there's no alternative. Things like it are cPanel and Plesk if you want that kind of thing, but haven't decided on ISPConfig. If you're just looking at standing up a webserver to do webservery things, then i'd recommend not getting overly complicated. Install just what you need so you don't end up with a giant stack to maintain, instead of focussing on what you're trying to learn. There aren't many details on what you're looking for as an end result, so I can't offer much advice there. Generally I stand up a loadbalancer that takes traffic from the interwebs, and use that to route to whatever server
Re: Libre office
1891 t, 2373, u n125 15 what im trying to do is nevermind. I'll do it a way I understand already Thanks for trying, Bob. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 12:12 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > What is in U127 ? And what is in T127 > I'm assuming N125 = 16 > > > On Mon, May 10, 2021, 9:00 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> >> Why do these two formulas produce the same result? >> >> =(U127-2200)*0.01*16 =SUM((U127-T127)*0.01*$N$125) assuming t127 is not 2200 >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Free DNS for TLS Automation
On 2021-05-10 13:25, Seabass via PLUG-discuss wrote: So what is a good DNS provider that one can automate getting LetsEncrypt certs through DNS ACME without paying? I know cloudflare is one... Any others? The acme.sh Let's Encrypt client supports using CloudFlare, GoDaddy, PowerDNS, LuaDNS, DNSMadeEasy, Route53, ISPConfig >= 3.1, AlwaysDNS, FreeDNS, and a few more. I have not actually tried this, but the directions are in dnsapi/README.md in the project. https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh/ Maybe later. You basically get an API key and secret, then make those available to acme.sh via environment variables, and it makes the API calls to update DNS records. You tell it "--dns dns_NNN" where NNN is one of the supported DNS providers. The manual parts of the client have all worked for me, so this should too? -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Free DNS for TLS Automation
Hello all. I saw others talking about ISPconfig and that it wasn't a great option for something simple. So what is a good DNS provider that one can automate getting LetsEncrypt certs through DNS ACME without paying? I know cloudflare is one... Any others?--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Libre office
What is in U127 ? And what is in T127 I'm assuming N125 = 16 On Mon, May 10, 2021, 9:00 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Why do these two formulas produce the same result? > > =(U127-2200)*0.01*16 =SUM((U127-T127)*0.01*$N$125) assuming t127 is not > 2200 > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Libre office
Why do these two formulas produce the same result? =(U127-2200)*0.01*16 =SUM((U127-T127)*0.01*$N$125) assuming t127 is not 2200 -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ISPConfig
that is the server I have, but I did upgrade it, as far as Firewalls, I purchased a micro computer and put pfsense on it which is free complete with updates and all On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 8:16 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Amazon and Newegg both have some really great finds for used server > hardware, full servers available for 100-400 depending on how old they are. > > There are also devices like this you might find of value. > https://www.amazon.com/Firewall-Appliance-Gigabit-Celeron-AES-NI/dp/B07G7H4M73/ > or > https://www.amazon.com/PowerEdge-Server-2-66GHz-PERC6i-Renewed/dp/B07QJ6WTV7/ > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:23 AM keith Miller via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> All the forementioned are running on a Dell R-610 with 96Gig of Ram and >> 2TB of diskspace, >> the R-610 cost me about 150.00 and RAM was about 2-3 hundred >> >> >> Keith >> >> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:20 AM keith Miller >> wrote: >> >>> I too have a Cox business account and have been issued 5 static IP and >>> hosting about 8 website from home, using apache and NGINX and one Email >>> server (Zimbra) I have up and running a Discourse applications, Mastodon >>> instance and a OSSN both are decentralized social networks and also a >>> Peertube instance. I use pfsense as my firewall and Proxmox as a hosting >>> O/S for the VM all are free. I also use Webmin to setup the web services >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < >>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>> I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It will be public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes assumptions you may or may not be willing to accept.". Thank you for your feedback!! On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: > ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server and > become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes assumptions you > may or may not be willing to accept. > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am considering configuring a "home web server" using ISPConfig. >> This >> is not a production situation. It is for learning. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Thanks!! >> Keith >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Keith D. Miller >>> >> >> >> -- >> Keith D. Miller >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith D. Miller --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ISPConfig
Amazon and Newegg both have some really great finds for used server hardware, full servers available for 100-400 depending on how old they are. There are also devices like this you might find of value. https://www.amazon.com/Firewall-Appliance-Gigabit-Celeron-AES-NI/dp/B07G7H4M73/ or https://www.amazon.com/PowerEdge-Server-2-66GHz-PERC6i-Renewed/dp/B07QJ6WTV7/ On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:23 AM keith Miller via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > All the forementioned are running on a Dell R-610 with 96Gig of Ram and > 2TB of diskspace, > the R-610 cost me about 150.00 and RAM was about 2-3 hundred > > > Keith > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:20 AM keith Miller wrote: > >> I too have a Cox business account and have been issued 5 static IP and >> hosting about 8 website from home, using apache and NGINX and one Email >> server (Zimbra) I have up and running a Discourse applications, Mastodon >> instance and a OSSN both are decentralized social networks and also a >> Peertube instance. I use pfsense as my firewall and Proxmox as a hosting >> O/S for the VM all are free. I also use Webmin to setup the web services >> >> Keith >> >> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It will be >>> public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes assumptions >>> you may or may not be willing to accept.". >>> >>> Thank you for your feedback!! >>> >>> On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> > ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server and >>> > become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes assumptions you >>> > may or may not be willing to accept. >>> > >>> > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> I am considering configuring a "home web server" using ISPConfig. >>> >> This >>> >> is not a production situation. It is for learning. >>> >> >>> >> Any thoughts? >>> >> >>> >> Thanks!! >>> >> Keith >>> >> --- >>> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > -- >>> > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> > >>> > Stephen >>> > --- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> Keith D. Miller >> > > > -- > Keith D. Miller > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ISPConfig
All the forementioned are running on a Dell R-610 with 96Gig of Ram and 2TB of diskspace, the R-610 cost me about 150.00 and RAM was about 2-3 hundred Keith On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:20 AM keith Miller wrote: > I too have a Cox business account and have been issued 5 static IP and > hosting about 8 website from home, using apache and NGINX and one Email > server (Zimbra) I have up and running a Discourse applications, Mastodon > instance and a OSSN both are decentralized social networks and also a > Peertube instance. I use pfsense as my firewall and Proxmox as a hosting > O/S for the VM all are free. I also use Webmin to setup the web services > > Keith > > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> >> I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It will be >> public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes assumptions >> you may or may not be willing to accept.". >> >> Thank you for your feedback!! >> >> On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server and >> > become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes assumptions you >> > may or may not be willing to accept. >> > >> > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I am considering configuring a "home web server" using ISPConfig. >> >> This >> >> is not a production situation. It is for learning. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Keith >> >> --- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> > -- >> > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> > >> > Stephen >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > Keith D. Miller > -- Keith D. Miller --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ISPConfig
I too have a Cox business account and have been issued 5 static IP and hosting about 8 website from home, using apache and NGINX and one Email server (Zimbra) I have up and running a Discourse applications, Mastodon instance and a OSSN both are decentralized social networks and also a Peertube instance. I use pfsense as my firewall and Proxmox as a hosting O/S for the VM all are free. I also use Webmin to setup the web services Keith On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It will be > public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes assumptions > you may or may not be willing to accept.". > > Thank you for your feedback!! > > On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server and > > become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes assumptions you > > may or may not be willing to accept. > > > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am considering configuring a "home web server" using ISPConfig. > >> This > >> is not a production situation. It is for learning. > >> > >> Any thoughts? > >> > >> Thanks!! > >> Keith > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > > > Stephen > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith D. Miller --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ISPConfig
You might find some interesting hardware options by looking into pfSense. Some solutions are more *open* than others (pfSense vs. something else, software vs. hardware). But, you'll get down the rabbit hole. It's been many years since I looked at that specialty. Last I looked, there was a cheap, silent, little box that had multiple ethernet ports, and it was a lot less clunky than a laptop. On Monday, May 10, 2021, 12:47:47 AM MST, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hmmm. It seems to me like ISPConfig might be a bit more than needed for running a home server or two. Now, as for my situation, I also am on a cox business class circuit (recently upgraded to 100 Gbits/sec downstream and 20 Gbits/sec upstream. The Nighthawk brand router I have in place for my firewall/wifi node is ok, but honestly, I would rather have a linux laptop running as the firewall. I could do a lot more with that than the current hardware (including having a speech engine running on it for those times when I need to do something in console mode). At least, with linux (or one of the *BSD’s), I have a lot more control over what I want to do. Given some of the lessons learned over the years, I would have pass throughs on separate virtual subnets for external servers (like a tor node, web server, etc). Let the laptop be a dedicated firewall. Only two issues might make this a bit of a problem: 1. The laptop would have to have at least 2 ethernet ports on it, and as far as I know, that’s actually quite rare 2. Setting up virtual subnets answerable through a single ethernet device are a real pain. Failing that, perhaps a small desktop machine (MicroATX with some spare slots, 4 GB of ram and a small SSD) would be more appropriate. Then I could add a 5 port ethernet card on a PCI—x slot and also have a couple of other goodies runnin. Thoughts? Also, will ISPConfig actually run under Linux or is it one of those silly windows only apps? I only ask this because I have seen the windows installer for it but haven’t run across the linux or BSD versions of it yet. -Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data center operations dept. > On May 9, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > > Thank you for your reply. I'll checkout Ajenti. > - - - > > On 2021-05-09 13:24, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Ajenti might be a bit more what you are looking for. It is less ISP >> hosting oriented, and more for general single-server management. >> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:09 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> I should have given more info. >>> I am not a system admin I am a PHP developer. I think I know a fair >>> amount about Linux when it comes to PHP/MySql hosting. For instance >>> I >>> used an old laptop to create a development environment using my Cox >>> business connection and for DNS I use ZoneEdit. I think it might be >>> running Ubuntu 218.04LTS. >>> Mail and DNS are beyond my limits. I do understand DNS, however I >>> could >>> know more. >>> About 6 years ago a friend built me a complete web server on an old >>> desktop that way just laying around. It worked well. >>> Based on that I bought a Dell i3 with 8G of RAM. I was going to do >>> all >>> my hosting locally ... I know foolish... But it was a learning >>> project. >>> Fast forward 6 years or so and the i3 has never been used. I'm >>> pretty >>> sure about 3 years ago I swapped the spinner for an SSD. >>> Another friend who owns a data center asked me to evaluate ISPConfig >>> maybe 3 years ago. I found it confusing and there was little >>> information available beyond what ISPConfig provided. >>> So here I sit with and i3, a copy of Ubuntu 20.04LTS, and an >>> Internet >>> connection that does not block ports. >>> Currently I am hosting my websites on a VPS that is managed by >>> Plesk. >>> Plesk is really nice and has so many features I'm sure I have missed >>> some opportunity. >>> Based on all of this I do not want to do away with my VPS I just >>> want to >>> configure that now old i3 and play around with it. >>> What I am looking for: >>> 1) Automate creating vhost accounts. ( I think I read that ISPConfig >>> is >>> a replacement for WHM and Cpanel) >>> 2) Automate creating DNS zone files. >>> 3) Automate creating email accounts. >>> 4) Automate registering and configuring Let's Encrypt certs. >>> Basically something that does for me what Plesk does for me. I am >>> not a >>> mail man nor is DNS really something I would like to manage by hand >>> - >>> maybe sometime in the future. >>> Thank You for All Your Feedback!! >>> - - - >>> On 2021-05-08 20:22, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: ISPConfig is a web application so other people can host websites >>> on your stuff. It's a fat stack to maintain, and as such will take >>> much more time to work with than just standing up a webserver. If you're looking at learning ISPConfig, then there's no >>>
Re: ISPConfig
Hmmm. It seems to me like ISPConfig might be a bit more than needed for running a home server or two. Now, as for my situation, I also am on a cox business class circuit (recently upgraded to 100 Gbits/sec downstream and 20 Gbits/sec upstream. The Nighthawk brand router I have in place for my firewall/wifi node is ok, but honestly, I would rather have a linux laptop running as the firewall. I could do a lot more with that than the current hardware (including having a speech engine running on it for those times when I need to do something in console mode). At least, with linux (or one of the *BSD’s), I have a lot more control over what I want to do. Given some of the lessons learned over the years, I would have pass throughs on separate virtual subnets for external servers (like a tor node, web server, etc). Let the laptop be a dedicated firewall. Only two issues might make this a bit of a problem: 1. The laptop would have to have at least 2 ethernet ports on it, and as far as I know, that’s actually quite rare 2. Setting up virtual subnets answerable through a single ethernet device are a real pain. Failing that, perhaps a small desktop machine (MicroATX with some spare slots, 4 GB of ram and a small SSD) would be more appropriate. Then I could add a 5 port ethernet card on a PCI—x slot and also have a couple of other goodies runnin. Thoughts? Also, will ISPConfig actually run under Linux or is it one of those silly windows only apps? I only ask this because I have seen the windows installer for it but haven’t run across the linux or BSD versions of it yet. -Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data center operations dept. > On May 9, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > > Thank you for your reply. I'll checkout Ajenti. > - - - > > On 2021-05-09 13:24, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Ajenti might be a bit more what you are looking for. It is less ISP >> hosting oriented, and more for general single-server management. >> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:09 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> I should have given more info. >>> I am not a system admin I am a PHP developer. I think I know a fair >>> amount about Linux when it comes to PHP/MySql hosting. For instance >>> I >>> used an old laptop to create a development environment using my Cox >>> business connection and for DNS I use ZoneEdit. I think it might be >>> running Ubuntu 218.04LTS. >>> Mail and DNS are beyond my limits. I do understand DNS, however I >>> could >>> know more. >>> About 6 years ago a friend built me a complete web server on an old >>> desktop that way just laying around. It worked well. >>> Based on that I bought a Dell i3 with 8G of RAM. I was going to do >>> all >>> my hosting locally ... I know foolish... But it was a learning >>> project. >>> Fast forward 6 years or so and the i3 has never been used. I'm >>> pretty >>> sure about 3 years ago I swapped the spinner for an SSD. >>> Another friend who owns a data center asked me to evaluate ISPConfig >>> maybe 3 years ago. I found it confusing and there was little >>> information available beyond what ISPConfig provided. >>> So here I sit with and i3, a copy of Ubuntu 20.04LTS, and an >>> Internet >>> connection that does not block ports. >>> Currently I am hosting my websites on a VPS that is managed by >>> Plesk. >>> Plesk is really nice and has so many features I'm sure I have missed >>> some opportunity. >>> Based on all of this I do not want to do away with my VPS I just >>> want to >>> configure that now old i3 and play around with it. >>> What I am looking for: >>> 1) Automate creating vhost accounts. ( I think I read that ISPConfig >>> is >>> a replacement for WHM and Cpanel) >>> 2) Automate creating DNS zone files. >>> 3) Automate creating email accounts. >>> 4) Automate registering and configuring Let's Encrypt certs. >>> Basically something that does for me what Plesk does for me. I am >>> not a >>> mail man nor is DNS really something I would like to manage by hand >>> - >>> maybe sometime in the future. >>> Thank You for All Your Feedback!! >>> - - - >>> On 2021-05-08 20:22, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: ISPConfig is a web application so other people can host websites >>> on your stuff. It's a fat stack to maintain, and as such will take >>> much more time to work with than just standing up a webserver. If you're looking at learning ISPConfig, then there's no >>> alternative. Things like it are cPanel and Plesk if you want that kind of >>> thing, but haven't decided on ISPConfig. If you're just looking at standing up a webserver to do webservery things, then i'd recommend not getting overly complicated. >>> Install just what you need so you don't end up with a giant stack to >>> maintain, instead of focussing on what you're trying to learn. There aren't many details on what you're looking for as an end >>>
