Re: formatted USB to ext4
I don’t see how any type of format can make any usb stick last any longer than another type of format. It’s the hardware that eventually breaks down and causes anyone problems. How good the hardware is built that will help it last, not really the format. I have a couple of San disk usb sticks and I’ve had them for about 6 years and another one of a different brand for 8 years. They were formatted with fat32. But I have also another stick which is started to have problems of reading or writing to it. I have had to format it several times over the years. But remember that when applying power to electronics it can cause break down after a while. On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, at 19:16, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > well, the sticks are san disk... > In any case someone said that to get long life out of them to format as > ext4 and I was wondering how he did it. I was directing that question > into the either not at you in particular. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 9:10 PM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> In my case, I didn’t format as EXT4. >> >> Btw, this issue sounds unique to a specific brand of Chinese made USB >> sticks. There was one 64GB stick I had in inventory that would malfunction >> in this manner whenever I tried to format in anything other than a standard >> MBR/NTFS/FAT32 arrangement. I gave up on it and strictly use it on the >> windows laptop.. btw, I also discovered, much to my disappointment that >> some brands of SD card will not, under any circumstances, support a GPT >> based boot loader. Tried on windows last night with Diskpart and it barfed >> stating that the operation was not supported. Tried it on my OS X machine >> and it worked just fine. Haven’t tried it on the other linux laptop as yet. >> >> -Eric >> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Hardware Research and >> Development Dept. >> >> >>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 6:29 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss >>> wrote: >>> >>> But it seems that when I formatted my devices to ext4 it made them read >>> only. How did you format them? I think that because after I set partition >>> type to msdos and format to ntfs the device acted as normal. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:21 AM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss >>> wrote: GPT is definitely preferred for anything over 32GB as that will allow for greater filesystem size. I routinely set that flag on any device I have that requires access above the 32GB 32 bit limitation. Since that covered virtually all devices in my inventory now, it’s just prudent to set it this way. I also format EXFaT so that I can use said devices across the broadest possible OS platforms. -Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, HDD refurbishment Dept. > On Jan 17, 2023, at 6:31 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > I was kinda oopy last night (I didn't google a solution to how to fix it > ) but I just did and found out how to set the partition table. But which > should I choose? I've heard gpt mentioned but am unsure. Could I hear > some opinions from the learnED here? > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 9:29 PM Michael wrote: >> in my other thread I looked at a gparted report. Well it had something >> related to this thread. In the report it is mentioned that file system >> type is ext4 but that the partition table is msdos. Does that >> matter.How should it be fixed if it does? >> >> >> Device: /dev/sdb >> Model: SanDisk Ultra >> Serial: >> Sector size: 512 >> Total sectors: 240353280 >> >> Heads: 255 >> Sectors/track: 2 >> Cylinders: 471280 >> >> Partition table: msdos >> >> PartitionTypeStart End Flags Partition Name File >> System Label Mount Point >> /dev/sdb1Primary 2048240353279 ext4 >> /media/michael/5d19820a-dfe9-4a0f-8593-9339e9b4ecd2 >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 8:41 PM Michael wrote: >>> Okay, I spent the last thirty minutes copying all the files from the >>> fat fomatted drive to a folder on the desktop. Then I formatted the >>> drive to ext4. Now I can't drag the files back on to the USB drive. I >>> suppose I could chmod -r 777 the drive but what is the right way to do >>> it? >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
The technology has been available for almost a decade and with the use of AI we will start seeing businesses starting to spend the money on it as a lot of businesses have openings for jobs but no one seems interested. How businesses are being run has changed since the pandemic and people are expecting more pay but businesses are starting to pay less based on the person’s skill for the job. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 20:48, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Is this even possible? > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11580467/Man-buys-router-thrift-store-finds-previous-owners-bank-account-credit-card-numbers.html > > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 06:43:09 PM MST, Keith Smith via > PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > On 2022-12-28 18:25, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 7:14:56 PM CST Keith Smith via >> PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >>> Unskilled labor is about to be hardcore unemployed and the jobs that >>> will be available will be for those who have leaned some skills. >>> >> >> >> There is no such thing as unskilled labor, only exploitation of the >> unprivileged. >> > > I worked in a gas station in my youth. Back in the 70's gas stations > were full service. I fix flats, pumped gas, checked oil, cleaned > windshields, once in a while I would air up a tire. > > And there was that job at the bakery where I made donuts. Did not > require a lot of skill. > > Seems very unskilled. > > >> >>> I'm thinking at some point in the future I will be replaced by a >>> machine. I am a programmer. The world will be ruled by the >>> engineers. >>> >> >> Engineers will not work if they are not paid, > > Not sure anyone is suggesting they work for free. I assume they will be > highly paid as they are today. > >> they have no power unless they >> work together. The elite/rich/bourgeois/1% will rule so long as they >> own our >> politicians and the exploited working class continues to worship their >> masters >> like Musk. > > I had no idea Musk was an elitist. > >> We are too far down the rabbit hole of Stockholm syndrome for the >> working class to ever achieve anything. >> > >> We need a revolution. > > Be careful what you wish for. > >> Of course, let them automate everything. I welcome it. >> When they eliminate all jobs and replace people with machines, let them >> sell >> cheese burgers to the robots. >> > > Could create an interesting situation. > > >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Epson EcoTank printer
Well if you got yours running then your doing good. Epson told me themselves they don’t make drivers now for Linux. The drivers they still have online are very old and out of date. I took my Epson printer back because I couldn’t get it to work with my fedora Linux. I finally went with the newest all-in-one brother printer with wide format. And works great and they will help anyone running Linux and the drivers are the most up to date. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 16:51, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:09:17 PM CST Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Brother supports Linux on all their printers. I have a all-in-one with fax >> and works great. Epson stopped supporting Linux 3 years ago. >> > > > You got anything to support this? In the past several years I have, very > happily, dumped my HP printers and replaced them with Epson EcoTank printers > and love them. > > So much so, that I just recently purchased their 16600 series for my wife's > Etsy business. They are fast, and flawless, as far as I can tell. > > We use all Fedora, if that makes a difference. > I will never again purchase anything but Epson. > > (one caveat, I use ethernet solely for my printers. I despise wifi) > > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, at 12:06, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > Report on printer compatibility with Linux as experienced today. >> > >> > I won't bore everyone with all the details (but I will mention this >> > whole exercise took many hours of research, plus 2 trips to 3 different >> > stores, and the purchase and return of a printer that didn't do fax as I >> > wanted), but, I was in the market for a printer to replace my HP color >> > laser all-in-one. >> > >> > >> > Why would I replace a really nice HP Color LaserJet? Well, it >> > apparently decided that it wouldn't print well any more with non-HP >> > carts, and buying a full set of the silly things was in the neighborhood >> > of $300 or more, IIRC. (Oh, and the HP instant ink program, which >> > looked like a pretty good deal, is ONLY for inkjet printers!) >> > >> > >> > So, I figured I could spend $300 for genuine HP and HOPE it made the >> > printer happy, or punt and get a new printer. I went the latter route. >> > >> > >> > After 'much'-ish research, I decided I'd go for a Brother Color Laser >> > All-In-One (we require Fax, don't ask why ;-), since Brothers are >> > reputed to be excellently-supported on Linux. >> > >> > >> > Found the best price anywhere (the local Staples, believe it or not!) >> > and was about to plunk down my card to get it when I realized it was >> > going to be around $750 or so for the printer ($400-ish?) and genuine >> > Brother carts ($350-ish - sound similar to the HP prices? yeah.). >> > >> > >> > Woah! Ouch! Hey, I'm retired now, that's kinda a shock. Back up, >> > regroup, decide to try out the EcoTank idea, something I'd seriously >> > considered in the past. Picked an Epson (ET-4800, for like $269 at - >> > believe it or not - WalMart (I'm skipping the first purchase which I had >> > to return - no fax)), brought it home. >> > >> > >> > Interesting setup method. I downloaded the Epson printer setup app on >> > to my Android. All went very well until I tried to enter my WIFI >> > password. (First off, it doesn't look like the ET-4800 does 5GHz Wifi, >> > only 2.4, so I had to switch my phone over to the 2.4 side. This might >> > be an 'issue' with more than my 4800, so beware). I tried it 4 or 5 >> > times, never got it to work (and the app was very weird - in order to >> > re-enter your WiFI password you had to tell it you had done it, then it >> > would give you the 'enter password' dialog. Otherwise it was in an >> > infinite loop saying it couldn't see the printer yet, did you enter the >> > password correctly, did you do it right). >> > >> > Anyway, after the ink was 'charged', I went to the front panel and >> > connected to wifi (just fine, thank you very much, on the first try), >> > then suddenly the app saw it and all was well. >> > >> > My son has Apple stuff and was pretty much immediately able to print. >> > >> > I went to Epson and looked up Linux print support, downloaded the >> > appropriate (in my case) .deb file, installed it and the >> > epsonscan2-bundle, fired up my 'Printers' tool, and there it was. I >> > didn
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
The article says there are people there to tend cash register and a couple of other things. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 10:00, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:22:37 -0700 > >>Thought you might find this interesting. >> >>https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs > > Sounds like a good idea, but I pay with cash, and I don't like putting > my twenty dollar bill in a machine, with no witnesses, and taking the > chance that the machine will simply eat my bill, with no audit trail. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times > http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Epson EcoTank printer
Brother supports Linux on all their printers. I have a all-in-one with fax and works great. Epson stopped supporting Linux 3 years ago. On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, at 12:06, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Report on printer compatibility with Linux as experienced today. > > I won't bore everyone with all the details (but I will mention this > whole exercise took many hours of research, plus 2 trips to 3 different > stores, and the purchase and return of a printer that didn't do fax as I > wanted), but, I was in the market for a printer to replace my HP color > laser all-in-one. > > > Why would I replace a really nice HP Color LaserJet? Well, it > apparently decided that it wouldn't print well any more with non-HP > carts, and buying a full set of the silly things was in the neighborhood > of $300 or more, IIRC. (Oh, and the HP instant ink program, which > looked like a pretty good deal, is ONLY for inkjet printers!) > > > So, I figured I could spend $300 for genuine HP and HOPE it made the > printer happy, or punt and get a new printer. I went the latter route. > > > After 'much'-ish research, I decided I'd go for a Brother Color Laser > All-In-One (we require Fax, don't ask why ;-), since Brothers are > reputed to be excellently-supported on Linux. > > > Found the best price anywhere (the local Staples, believe it or not!) > and was about to plunk down my card to get it when I realized it was > going to be around $750 or so for the printer ($400-ish?) and genuine > Brother carts ($350-ish - sound similar to the HP prices? yeah.). > > > Woah! Ouch! Hey, I'm retired now, that's kinda a shock. Back up, > regroup, decide to try out the EcoTank idea, something I'd seriously > considered in the past. Picked an Epson (ET-4800, for like $269 at - > believe it or not - WalMart (I'm skipping the first purchase which I had > to return - no fax)), brought it home. > > > Interesting setup method. I downloaded the Epson printer setup app on > to my Android. All went very well until I tried to enter my WIFI > password. (First off, it doesn't look like the ET-4800 does 5GHz Wifi, > only 2.4, so I had to switch my phone over to the 2.4 side. This might > be an 'issue' with more than my 4800, so beware). I tried it 4 or 5 > times, never got it to work (and the app was very weird - in order to > re-enter your WiFI password you had to tell it you had done it, then it > would give you the 'enter password' dialog. Otherwise it was in an > infinite loop saying it couldn't see the printer yet, did you enter the > password correctly, did you do it right). > > Anyway, after the ink was 'charged', I went to the front panel and > connected to wifi (just fine, thank you very much, on the first try), > then suddenly the app saw it and all was well. > > My son has Apple stuff and was pretty much immediately able to print. > > I went to Epson and looked up Linux print support, downloaded the > appropriate (in my case) .deb file, installed it and the > epsonscan2-bundle, fired up my 'Printers' tool, and there it was. I > didn't even have to search/destroy um, I mean search/install. > > Select it, say print test page, immediate print success. > > > On my wife's Linux machine I tried running their 'epsonscan2' program > and was not impressed. It didn't find the scanner. So, I ran over to > XSane and simple-scan and both could see it with no problem. I used > XSane to scan in both BW and color, no problems. Oh, and it knew to let > me choose the ADF or the flatbed! > > At first I thought it didn't have extreme scan resolution, then I > fiddled in simple-scan and set it to 1200 - whoa! But very slow. > > (In the spirit of full disclosure, I'm having a weird problem getting > scanning to work on my computer, but it works perfectly on my wife's...) > > When I did all the above stuff with my HP (long ago in a galaxy far > away), it worked, but I seem to recall that getting the scanning to work > was a little more of an issue. > > > On the other hand, I have a much older Epson (from an even longer time > ago and an even further away galaxy!) that I did have issues with > finding and setting up, so it looks to me like Epson has improved a lot. > > > Haven't printed much yet, but so far so good. > > > All the above to say that Epson's Linux support worked quite well for > me this time. Linux is Linux Mint 20.2. > > Anybody want to buy an unhappy HP Color LaserJet MFP M281cdw? ;-) > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
Re: software to edit dvds
Altering a dvd for any reason is against federal law. It displays that on the beginning of the dvd or Blu-ray. On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, at 20:06, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I bought some DVDs recently that have those annoying trailers before > the main menu that I can't skip or fast forward to. Is there some > llnux software that would let me remove those trailers from a copy I > make of one of the DVDs? thanks > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cheap Laptop
Not sure what apps are on pine phone but it does run full Linux. On Wed, Oct 12, 2022, at 19:20, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I like the idea. Do android apps run on them? > > > On 10/12/22 16:40, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> With pine phone you have root access. >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022, at 11:02, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> It seems to be a trend in the industry to take away from customers the >>> ability to install what they want on their computers. It's been that >>> way with android devices since they began. Good luck finding a phone >>> or tablet where you the owner have root access to the device that you >>> bought. I get the impression Microsoft wants that in the PC market. >>> >>> On 10/11/22 19:43, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>> I'd say STAY AWAY from it >>>> >>>> About Windows 11 in S mode >>>> >>>> Windows 11 in S mode is a version of Windows 11 that's streamlined for >>>> security and performance, while providing a familiar Windows experience. >>>> To increase security, it allows only apps from Microsoft Store, and >>>> requires Microsoft Edge for safe browsing. >>>> >>>> >>>> It's a crippled system !!! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:16 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I was bebopping through the web and I saw this Gateway laptop on sale at >>>>> Amazon: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gateway 15.6" Ultra Slim Notebook with Carrying Case & Wireless Mouse, >>>>> FHD, Intel® Core™ i3-1115G4, Dual Core, 4GB Memory, 128GB SSD, Tuned by >>>>> THX™ Audio, 1.0MP Webcam, HDMI, Cortana, Windows 11 S >>>>> >>>>> Now $179.00 >>>>> was $445.00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gateway-15-6-Ultra-Slim-Notebook-Carrying-Case-Wireless-Mouse-FHD-Intel-Core-i3-1115G4-Dual-Core-4GB-Memory-128GB-SSD-Tuned-THX-Audio-1-0MP-Webcam-HD/996759914?athbdg=L1800 >>>>> >>>>> Nice!! >>>>> >>>>> Keith >>>>> --- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cheap Laptop
With pine phone you have root access. On Wed, Oct 12, 2022, at 11:02, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: > It seems to be a trend in the industry to take away from customers the > ability to install what they want on their computers. It's been that > way with android devices since they began. Good luck finding a phone > or tablet where you the owner have root access to the device that you > bought. I get the impression Microsoft wants that in the PC market. > > On 10/11/22 19:43, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> I'd say STAY AWAY from it >> >> About Windows 11 in S mode >> >> Windows 11 in S mode is a version of Windows 11 that's streamlined for >> security and performance, while providing a familiar Windows experience. To >> increase security, it allows only apps from Microsoft Store, and requires >> Microsoft Edge for safe browsing. >> >> >> It's a crippled system !!! >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:16 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was bebopping through the web and I saw this Gateway laptop on sale at >>> Amazon: >>> >>> >>> Gateway 15.6" Ultra Slim Notebook with Carrying Case & Wireless Mouse, >>> FHD, Intel® Core™ i3-1115G4, Dual Core, 4GB Memory, 128GB SSD, Tuned by >>> THX™ Audio, 1.0MP Webcam, HDMI, Cortana, Windows 11 S >>> >>> Now $179.00 >>> was $445.00 >>> >>> >>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gateway-15-6-Ultra-Slim-Notebook-Carrying-Case-Wireless-Mouse-FHD-Intel-Core-i3-1115G4-Dual-Core-4GB-Memory-128GB-SSD-Tuned-THX-Audio-1-0MP-Webcam-HD/996759914?athbdg=L1800 >>> >>> Nice!! >>> >>> Keith >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cheap Laptop
I have a friend that has 5 laptops for sale right now. He removes all data on it and makes sure everything is running right and installs windows 10 on it. I bought one and it’s great. I installed Linux on it and runs just fine. It is an HP probook. He works for the business that gets ready to replace laptops. Mine is only a little over 2 years old. I can get a list of them he has for sale and the price for them if you’d like. On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, at 19:43, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I'd say STAY AWAY from it > > About Windows 11 in S mode > > Windows 11 in S mode is a version of Windows 11 that's streamlined for > security and performance, while providing a familiar Windows > experience. To increase security, it allows only apps from Microsoft > Store, and requires Microsoft Edge for safe browsing. > > > It's a crippled system !!! > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:16 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was bebopping through the web and I saw this Gateway laptop on sale at >> Amazon: >> >> >> Gateway 15.6" Ultra Slim Notebook with Carrying Case & Wireless Mouse, >> FHD, Intel® Core™ i3-1115G4, Dual Core, 4GB Memory, 128GB SSD, Tuned by >> THX™ Audio, 1.0MP Webcam, HDMI, Cortana, Windows 11 S >> >> Now $179.00 >> was $445.00 >> >> >> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gateway-15-6-Ultra-Slim-Notebook-Carrying-Case-Wireless-Mouse-FHD-Intel-Core-i3-1115G4-Dual-Core-4GB-Memory-128GB-SSD-Tuned-THX-Audio-1-0MP-Webcam-HD/996759914?athbdg=L1800 >> >> Nice!! >> >> Keith >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: old games
Most of those games were dos games and I use to play lots of those games on freedos. But I was able to get doom and wolfenstein to run on my Linux box. But most ran on my freedos box. On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, at 12:34, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > what I meant by 'how do I install them to the /home directory?' was 'is > there a way to install them to /home via apt?' > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 1:31 PM Michael wrote: >> in my research I found: >> minecraft 1.14 and below >> >> roblox >> >> the spy who shot me >> >> elder scrolls 1–4 >> >> fallout 1–2-tactics 3 and nv might work at 8 fps >> >> battlefront 1 classic maby even 2 classic >> >> theif origonal >> >> half life 1-blue shift-opposing force >> >> doom 1–2 >> >> cod 1–4 >> >> rainbow six classic >> >> sort the court >> >> floating sandbox >> >> super hexagon >> >> sniper elite 2005 >> >> hitman 1–4 >> >> return to castle wolfenstine >> >> Pirates >> >> Thief 1 and 2 >> >> Sin (not episodes) >> >> Baldur’s gate 1 and 2 >> >> Fallout 1 and 2 (also tactics) >> >> Elder scrolls 3: Morrowind and maybe even oblivion >> >> Classic Re 1–3 (Require some tweaking) >> >> The original monkey island games >> >> FF vii - ix (not remastered) >> >> Soldier of Fortune 1 >> >> Unreal >> >> Blood 1 and 2 >> >> Anachronox (JRPG) >> >> Civilization 2 and 3 >> >> Blake Stone (original) >> >> Half life its expansions >> >> Sims 1 >> >> Neverwinter nights and toee (non hd) >> >> Heroes of might and magic 1–4 >> >> Betrayal at Krondor >> >> Utima vii >> >> Unreal and UT classic >> >> Quake 3 (Probably) >> >> Revenant >> >> Soulbringer >> >> Diablo1 and 2 >> >> Throne of Darkness >> >> Disciples 1 and 2 >> >> The dune classic games >> >> Arx Fatalis >> >> Wizardry (upto 8) >> >> Quake 2 >> >> Hexen and Heretic >> >> Beyond Good and Evil >> >> Master of Orion 1 and 2(4x strategy) >> >> Alpha Centauri >> >> Carmageddon >> >> Undying >> >> Settlers (upto 3) >> >> Deux ex (original) >> >> Empire earth >> >> Jade Empire >> >> Kingpin >> >> MK (upto 4)/ Street fighter 2/King of fighters (upto 2005) >> >> Leisure suite Larry (classics) >> >> Postal 1 (free on GOG) >> >> Jagged Alliance 1 plus 2 >> >> but how do I install these specific game in the /home directory? >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 1:18 PM Michael wrote: >>> as a followup to my previous mail where would I be able to find games my >>> 1.1ghz celron could handle? >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Linux Laptops
The raspberry pi 4 has the Bluetooth 5.0 and no one has had any complaints. I just took my laptop to the shop for hardware problems and to replace my HDD in it. But I like what I see on Linuxforlaptops and may look more into it. On Thu, Aug 25, 2022, at 07:30, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > GOD is so good to me. I may be in the market for a new computer > linuxforlaptops also has NUCs (which I was looking for. I do have a > question about it though: > WIll I have a problem with the Intel AX201 WiFi tot 2400 Mbps + > Bluetooth 5.1 > (https://laptopwithlinux.com/product/intel-nuc11-linux-mini-computer/) > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:08 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Am 24. Aug, 2022 schwätzte Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss so: >> >> moin moin, >> >> > I have been looking around for Linux laptops and finding most in the >> > U.S. are quite expensive. But then I came upon a web site that's called >> > "Linux for laptops" it's located in the Netherlands and a person can >> > configure what they want on it from Distro, Storage to memory. Has >> > anyone else familiar with this site or has ordered from them or any >> > dealings with them. >> >> I don't remember running into this group. Thanks for pointing them out. >> Will check them out. >> >> If ordering from the EU there might be a couple things to be aware of. >> >> A couple months back I bought a laptop from Tuxedo Computing in >> Germany. My budget was higher than yours. I don't know if they have >> something in your range. For me they were the only place I could find with >> AMD for laptops at that particular time. >> >> When I checked out they dropped the Mehrwertsteuer ( VAT tax ), which was >> $100+, but then charged $100 for shipping to the US. In the end the total >> checkout price was $30 or $50 less than the listed price, I don't remember >> exactly. NE likely also drops the VAT tax at checkout, no idea what they >> do for shipping. >> >> The delivery took less than a week from checkout. That was likely >> abnormally fast. >> >> > I'm just trying to find a decent priced laptop for running Linux on. Here >> > is the link. >> > https://laptopwithlinux.com/ >> >> I also bought some discount acer spin laptops for the family ( what I'm >> using right now ). They have been good and were about $850. I specifically >> wanted touchscreen with full foldover to touchpad mode for those. There >> were a couple small gotchas for the install, but I had found a guide to >> the install before buying them. They've been great thus far. They've >> performed well for light Krita work. >> >> The Destination Linux and Linux Unplugged podcasts have both covered Linux >> laptops on their shows this Summer. It was mostly about latest, greatest, >> coolest stuff, so likely all at the higher end of the pricescale. Show >> notes probably have links to what they covered. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> -- >> # https://www.LuftHans.com <https://www.lufthans.com/> >> https://www.PhxLinux.org <https://www.phxlinux.org/> >> # "Mathematics is the output of running the observable universe through >> # a gradually-improving compression algorithm." -- Karl Fogel, >> 2015May29--- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Linux Laptops
I just checked and the prices are up there big time. $800 and higher. On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, at 18:15, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > Doesn't Dell allow for the installation of Linux over Windows? > > On 2022-08-24 18:00, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> I have been looking around for Linux laptops and finding most in the >> U.S. are quite expensive. But then I came upon a web site that's >> called "Linux for laptops" it's located in the Netherlands and a >> person can configure what they want on it from Distro, Storage to >> memory. Has anyone else familiar with this site or has ordered from >> them or any dealings with them. >> I'm just trying to find a decent priced laptop for running Linux on. >> Here is the link. >> https://laptopwithlinux.com/ -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Linux Laptops
I have been looking around for Linux laptops and finding most in the U.S. are quite expensive. But then I came upon a web site that's called "Linux for laptops" it's located in the Netherlands and a person can configure what they want on it from Distro, Storage to memory. Has anyone else familiar with this site or has ordered from them or any dealings with them. I'm just trying to find a decent priced laptop for running Linux on. Here is the link. https://laptopwithlinux.com/ -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: HD Cady?
If your worried about SSD's failing or having problems, then stick with the HDD or get a motherboard that has a M.2 slot for NVME SSD. They just plug right in and very fast too. On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, at 10:37, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > or wait.. I just looked at it again is it just for SSDs? I heard > SSDs aren't as reliable as the ol spinners. did I hear wrong? should I > just get another SSD and hope it doesn't fail after twoish years? > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 1:30 PM Michael wrote: >> what was meant for you was a question about a HD Cady. is this at least okay? >> https://www.amazon.com/SSK-Aluminum-External-Duplicator-Function/dp/B07WS59SP4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=37H1IXN6J13HK=hard+drive+caddy=1661360825=hard+drive+cady%2Caps%2C737=8-3 >> >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 1:21 PM Michael wrote: >>> https://www.pinterest.com/bmike1/your-pinterest-likes/ >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Kernel Panic
Well I have seen on the market a new board that uses DDR 5 memory and advanced tech on the board with multiple M.2 slots and then some. I think it have a video connector as well. I moved on from looking at it because it was to expensive for me. It was over $600 and that is without the cpu or memory. I do remember it can use the AMD thread ripper. It's a beast. On Tue, Aug 23, 2022, at 10:20, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > thanks for the warning. the ssd is the last possibility. I cleaned it, > I replaced ram and I tried other OSes. This is the last thing before I > buy a new HDD; I reinstalled w/o a home directory. I doubt it will help > but maybe.after this I'm getting a cady and a spinner disk. then if I > do need a new computer I will get a box with video, motherboard, and > audio to have a completely modular system. have you heard of such a > beast (mb, audio, video box). Could you direct me to a place I could > get it? > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:59 PM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Just be aware it might be the HDD but be careful if it still does it after >> changing the drive that it might be a possible problem of the motherboard. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022, at 09:54, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > Thanks Harold. I’m thinking it’s my hdd as well though I have an sdd. >> > Whammy do you think about that? >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:50 PM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >> > wrote: >> >> I have been following this thread and I once had the same problem and >> >> found out it was a hardware issue. >> >> If you are still using the regular HDD then the hardware that read and >> >> writes to the HDD is failing and needs to be replaced. >> >> I use to have some new HDD and found some to have defects on the read and >> >> write hardware. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022, at 09:11, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> > Now the installer is crashing. >> >> > -- >> >> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 4:24 AM Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Have you done a nuke and pave install or are you limping your /home >> >> >> along? you could have some “could not be installed form of corrupted >> >> >> config file in your home that might be causing problems. worth a >> >> >> thought. and a stroll through your home dir. >> >> > --- >> >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Harold Hartley >> >> 17632 N. 5th place >> >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >> >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >> >> --- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > -- >> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> -- >> Harold Hartley >> 17632 N. 5th place >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Kernel Panic
Just be aware it might be the HDD but be careful if it still does it after changing the drive that it might be a possible problem of the motherboard. On Tue, Aug 23, 2022, at 09:54, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Thanks Harold. I’m thinking it’s my hdd as well though I have an sdd. > Whammy do you think about that? > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:50 PM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> I have been following this thread and I once had the same problem and found >> out it was a hardware issue. >> If you are still using the regular HDD then the hardware that read and >> writes to the HDD is failing and needs to be replaced. >> I use to have some new HDD and found some to have defects on the read and >> write hardware. >> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022, at 09:11, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > Now the installer is crashing. >> > -- >> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 4:24 AM Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss >> > wrote: >> >> Have you done a nuke and pave install or are you limping your /home >> >> along? you could have some “could not be installed form of corrupted >> >> config file in your home that might be causing problems. worth a thought. >> >> and a stroll through your home dir. >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> -- >> Harold Hartley >> 17632 N. 5th place >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Kernel Panic
I have been following this thread and I once had the same problem and found out it was a hardware issue. If you are still using the regular HDD then the hardware that read and writes to the HDD is failing and needs to be replaced. I use to have some new HDD and found some to have defects on the read and write hardware. On Tue, Aug 23, 2022, at 09:11, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Now the installer is crashing. > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 4:24 AM Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Have you done a nuke and pave install or are you limping your /home along? >> you could have some “could not be installed form of corrupted config file in >> your home that might be causing problems. worth a thought. and a stroll >> through your home dir. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Rack Server ...
Depends on power supply. Some will run redundant power supplies and other factors. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 14:33, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > wow! > must eat up power at the house. > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 02:25:14 PM MST, Harold Hartley via > PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > Server cases can run from 16 inch to 24 inch deep and 19 inch wide but > depends on U size. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 14:14, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> How big is this thing? >> >> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 02:02:27 PM MST, Harold Hartley via >> PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> >> That’s because I’m wheelchair bound. >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 13:32, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>> Cool. When do you want to pick it up? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alexander >>> >>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:47 Matthew Gibson >>> wrote: >>>> I was merely offering to help transport it to an interested party. I >>>> myself am not interested in a rack mounted server. As I have no rack for >>>> it. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:37 PM Harold Hartley >>>> wrote: >>>>> Yes I am interested in the server. >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/22 12:36, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>>>> So anyway, LOL -- I'm the one with the server! >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm in the East Valley. NW Gilbert. >>>>>> McQueen/Guadalupe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Harold was first, so he has priority if he chooses. Matt is next, if >>>>>> Harold declines. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Alexander >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 09:52 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> You see my address on my emails showing I live in Phoenix. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:49, Matthew Gibson wrote: >>>>>>> > In the Phoenix Valley, no conditions. Outside the Phoenix valley, >>>>>>> > help >>>>>>> > with gas money or a soda pop or two. Outside Arizona... we'd need to >>>>>>> > discuss times, locations, etc. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 9:45 AM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >> What condition is that. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:37, Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >> > I'm happy to help facilitate a transfer of equipment if an >>>>>>> >> > arrangement >>>>>>> >> > hasn't been made yet. Certain conditions apply. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 8:49 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss >>>>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> Community -- >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either >>>>>>> >> >> donate or correctly recycle. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which >>>>>>> >> >> garnered no interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage >>>>>>> >> >> taking up space. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of >>>>>>> >> >> charge (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can >>>>>>> >> >> please recommend a quality electronics recycling center they have >>>>>>> >> >> used, preferably in the East Valley -- that would be much >>>>>>> >> >> appreciated. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> -- >>>>>>> >> >> Thanks, >>>>>>> >> >> Alex. >>>>>>> >> &g
Re: Old Rack Server ...
Server cases can run from 16 inch to 24 inch deep and 19 inch wide but depends on U size. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 14:14, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > How big is this thing? > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 02:02:27 PM MST, Harold Hartley via > PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > That’s because I’m wheelchair bound. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 13:32, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >> Cool. When do you want to pick it up? >> >> Thanks, >> Alexander >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:47 Matthew Gibson >> wrote: >>> I was merely offering to help transport it to an interested party. I myself >>> am not interested in a rack mounted server. As I have no rack for it. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:37 PM Harold Hartley >>> wrote: >>>> Yes I am interested in the server. >>>> >>>> On 4/13/22 12:36, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>>> So anyway, LOL -- I'm the one with the server! >>>>> >>>>> I'm in the East Valley. NW Gilbert. >>>>> McQueen/Guadalupe. >>>>> >>>>> Harold was first, so he has priority if he chooses. Matt is next, if >>>>> Harold declines. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alexander >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 09:52 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> You see my address on my emails showing I live in Phoenix. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:49, Matthew Gibson wrote: >>>>>> > In the Phoenix Valley, no conditions. Outside the Phoenix valley, help >>>>>> > with gas money or a soda pop or two. Outside Arizona... we'd need to >>>>>> > discuss times, locations, etc. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 9:45 AM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >> What condition is that. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:37, Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>>> >> > I'm happy to help facilitate a transfer of equipment if an >>>>>> >> > arrangement >>>>>> >> > hasn't been made yet. Certain conditions apply. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 8:49 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss >>>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>>> >> >> Community -- >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either >>>>>> >> >> donate or correctly recycle. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which >>>>>> >> >> garnered no interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage >>>>>> >> >> taking up space. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of >>>>>> >> >> charge (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can >>>>>> >> >> please recommend a quality electronics recycling center they have >>>>>> >> >> used, preferably in the East Valley -- that would be much >>>>>> >> >> appreciated. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> -- >>>>>> >> >> Thanks, >>>>>> >> >> Alex. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> --- >>>>>> >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >> > --- >>>>>> >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settin
Re: Old Rack Server ...
That’s because I’m wheelchair bound. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 13:32, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > Cool. When do you want to pick it up? > > Thanks, > Alexander > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:47 Matthew Gibson > wrote: >> I was merely offering to help transport it to an interested party. I myself >> am not interested in a rack mounted server. As I have no rack for it. >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:37 PM Harold Hartley wrote: >>> Yes I am interested in the server. >>> >>> On 4/13/22 12:36, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>> So anyway, LOL -- I'm the one with the server! >>>> >>>> I'm in the East Valley. NW Gilbert. >>>> McQueen/Guadalupe. >>>> >>>> Harold was first, so he has priority if he chooses. Matt is next, if >>>> Harold declines. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alexander >>>> >>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 09:52 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>> wrote: >>>>> You see my address on my emails showing I live in Phoenix. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:49, Matthew Gibson wrote: >>>>> > In the Phoenix Valley, no conditions. Outside the Phoenix valley, help >>>>> > with gas money or a soda pop or two. Outside Arizona... we'd need to >>>>> > discuss times, locations, etc. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 9:45 AM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> What condition is that. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:37, Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>> >> > I'm happy to help facilitate a transfer of equipment if an >>>>> >> > arrangement >>>>> >> > hasn't been made yet. Certain conditions apply. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 8:49 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> Community -- >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either >>>>> >> >> donate or correctly recycle. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which garnered >>>>> >> >> no interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage taking up >>>>> >> >> space. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of >>>>> >> >> charge (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can >>>>> >> >> please recommend a quality electronics recycling center they have >>>>> >> >> used, preferably in the East Valley -- that would be much >>>>> >> >> appreciated. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> Thanks, >>>>> >> >> Alex. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> --- >>>>> >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >> > --- >>>>> >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Harold Hartley >>>>> >> 17632 N. 5th place >>>>> >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >>>>> >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >>>>> >> --- >>>>> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Harold Hartley >>>>> 17632 N. 5th place >>>>> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >>>>> wheelie...@ownmail.net >>>>> --- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> -- >>> Harold Hartley >>> 17632 N. 5th Pl >>> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >>> wheelie...@ownmail.net -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Rack Server ...
Let me check with a friend to pick it up for me as I only use valley metro bus. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 13:32, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > Cool. When do you want to pick it up? > > Thanks, > Alexander > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:47 Matthew Gibson > wrote: >> I was merely offering to help transport it to an interested party. I myself >> am not interested in a rack mounted server. As I have no rack for it. >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:37 PM Harold Hartley wrote: >>> Yes I am interested in the server. >>> >>> On 4/13/22 12:36, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>> So anyway, LOL -- I'm the one with the server! >>>> >>>> I'm in the East Valley. NW Gilbert. >>>> McQueen/Guadalupe. >>>> >>>> Harold was first, so he has priority if he chooses. Matt is next, if >>>> Harold declines. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alexander >>>> >>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 09:52 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>> wrote: >>>>> You see my address on my emails showing I live in Phoenix. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:49, Matthew Gibson wrote: >>>>> > In the Phoenix Valley, no conditions. Outside the Phoenix valley, help >>>>> > with gas money or a soda pop or two. Outside Arizona... we'd need to >>>>> > discuss times, locations, etc. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 9:45 AM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> What condition is that. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:37, Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>> >> > I'm happy to help facilitate a transfer of equipment if an >>>>> >> > arrangement >>>>> >> > hasn't been made yet. Certain conditions apply. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 8:49 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> Community -- >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either >>>>> >> >> donate or correctly recycle. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which garnered >>>>> >> >> no interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage taking up >>>>> >> >> space. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of >>>>> >> >> charge (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can >>>>> >> >> please recommend a quality electronics recycling center they have >>>>> >> >> used, preferably in the East Valley -- that would be much >>>>> >> >> appreciated. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> Thanks, >>>>> >> >> Alex. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> --- >>>>> >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >> > --- >>>>> >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Harold Hartley >>>>> >> 17632 N. 5th place >>>>> >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >>>>> >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >>>>> >> --- >>>>> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Harold Hartley >>>>> 17632 N. 5th place >>>>> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >>>>> wheelie...@ownmail.net >>>>> --- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> -- >>> Harold Hartley >>> 17632 N. 5th Pl >>> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >>> wheelie...@ownmail.net -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Rack Server ...
Yes I am interested in the server. On 4/13/22 12:36, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: So anyway, LOL -- I'm the one with the server! I'm in the East Valley. NW Gilbert. McQueen/Guadalupe. Harold was first, so he has priority if he chooses. Matt is next, if Harold declines. Thanks, Alexander Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 09:52 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: You see my address on my emails showing I live in Phoenix. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:49, Matthew Gibson wrote: > In the Phoenix Valley, no conditions. Outside the Phoenix valley, help > with gas money or a soda pop or two. Outside Arizona... we'd need to > discuss times, locations, etc. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 9:45 AM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> What condition is that. >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:37, Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > I'm happy to help facilitate a transfer of equipment if an arrangement >> > hasn't been made yet. Certain conditions apply. >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 8:49 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss >> > wrote: >> >> Community -- >> >> >> >> I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either donate or correctly recycle. >> >> >> >> I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which garnered no interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage taking up space. >> >> >> >> I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of charge (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can please recommend a quality electronics recycling center they have used, preferably in the East Valley -- that would be much appreciated. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alex. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> -- >> Harold Hartley >> 17632 N. 5th place >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Rack Server ...
You see my address on my emails showing I live in Phoenix. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:49, Matthew Gibson wrote: > In the Phoenix Valley, no conditions. Outside the Phoenix valley, help > with gas money or a soda pop or two. Outside Arizona... we'd need to > discuss times, locations, etc. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 9:45 AM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> What condition is that. >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:37, Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > I'm happy to help facilitate a transfer of equipment if an arrangement >> > hasn't been made yet. Certain conditions apply. >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 8:49 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss >> > wrote: >> >> Community -- >> >> >> >> I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either donate or >> >> correctly recycle. >> >> >> >> I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which garnered no >> >> interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage taking up space. >> >> >> >> I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of charge >> >> (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can please recommend >> >> a quality electronics recycling center they have used, preferably in the >> >> East Valley -- that would be much appreciated. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alex. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> -- >> Harold Hartley >> 17632 N. 5th place >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Rack Server ...
What condition is that. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 09:37, Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I'm happy to help facilitate a transfer of equipment if an arrangement > hasn't been made yet. Certain conditions apply. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 8:49 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Community -- >> >> I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either donate or >> correctly recycle. >> >> I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which garnered no >> interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage taking up space. >> >> I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of charge >> (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can please recommend a >> quality electronics recycling center they have used, preferably in the East >> Valley -- that would be much appreciated. >> >> -- >> Thanks, >> Alex. >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Rack Server ...
What area do you live. I’m interest in a server but didn’t have that kind of money. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, at 08:48, Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Community -- > > I have an old SuperMicro rack server that I'm looking to either donate > or correctly recycle. > > I tried to sell it for parts on here so time back -- which garnered no > interest -- and now it's just sitting in my garage taking up space. > > I would like to donate it to anyone interested, obviously free of > charge (*you just have to come to get it*) -- or if someone can please > recommend a quality electronics recycling center they have used, > preferably in the East Valley -- that would be much appreciated. > > -- > Thanks, > Alex. > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Still hoping for advice from Plug ...
The name on that store at that address is call Westech Recycle. The online store is called resell electronics and they have a computer there setup to that web site for those looking for stuff not in the store there. On Tue, Apr 12, 2022, at 18:32, Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Resell Electronics 220 S 9th St #400, Phoenix, AZ 85034 > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 5:11 PM Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> I have picked up used laptops from "feature marketing" in the past. >> https://featuremarketing.com/product-category/laptops-notebooks-tablets/ >> >> Their website is never up to date, call them and see what they have. >> Phil W >> >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 5:09 PM joe--- via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> A few days ago, I asked Plug for advice on used >>> laptops and Linux distro options ... but I got no >>> comments, so I'm asking a slightly different way: >>> >>> (1) Where is the best place in Mesa and/or in the >>> Phoenix area to buy used laptops (i.e. Thinkpads)? >>> >>> (2) Or are ebay, amazon, or backmarket the best options? >>> >>> (3) Which is the best version of Linux Mint to install >>> on a Thinkpad to run 24/7 with an external monitor, >>> keyboard, and mouse? I want long term stable and >>> not the latest experimental version. >>> >>> PS: I found this article to be very interesting >>> and informative: 50 Best Linux Distros for 2022: >>> >>> https://linuxhint.com/best-linux-distros-2022/ >>> >>> === >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > -- > Todd Cole > Ubuntu Arizona Team > 2928 W El Caminito > Phoenix AZ 85051-3957 > to...@azloco.com > 602-677-9402 > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
newer wide screen monitor
I am wondering if anyone has tried those new very wide screen monitors with Linux. I am thinking about one of those monitors if they work with Linux. With all the new drivers and technology being put into the kernel and I thought I would ask if anyone got one running under Linux. -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 5G
That's the magic words. "in a few years" Right now they are more concerned about normal users using 5G. Their probably not thinking about server usage as they are still expanding 5G just to get the users using it and servers will be finally accommodated after a few years. On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, at 17:24, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I rejected TMobile home Internet after having it on for 15m. The wifi > router has none of the configuration options you'd expect... no port > forwarding or the other wireless router options you'd expect. The only > place with a good signal was too far from my office (might work if you > can hook it to a mesh network... not sure you can). I sent it back the > same day I received it and had a $12 bill. It didn't seem to have > consistent speed or latency, but I didn't test it thoroughly. I might > try it again in a few years. > JD > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, 2:00 PM George Toft via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> I tested T-Mobile's 5G Home Internet. It suffers from jitter, which is >> fine for email, web browsing, and streaming services. However, the >> recent sunspots/CME's wrecked havoc and dumped our VPN (to work) several >> times. I've determined it is unsuitable for dedicated work at home. >> >> Granted, the data flow is going the other direction, stability is >> important and you may have problems. The technology is still immature. >> >> Regards, >> >> George Toft >> >> On 4/8/2022 10:03 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > >> > >> > Verizon is offering 5G that they say will allow me to run a server. >> > Price point is decent... will add more data to my phone and I will >> > save $70/month for cellular and Internet. Right now I have Cox >> > Business that allows me to run one or more servers and provides one IP >> > with the ability to rent more. >> > >> > Anyone using 5G and are you running a server on Verizon 5G? >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Raspberry Pi DHCP & Pihole
I read an article earlier this month on software bugs and it had mention a bug in dhcp and that they were trying to fix it. Not sure if it might be related to your problem. I wish I kept the article to pass on to others but I didn't. Sorry about that. On 3/26/22 12:04, AZ Pete via PLUG-discuss wrote: All, I ran into an interesting bug that I thought I'd share here. I set up one of my Raspberry Pi computers as a Pi-hole and also configured it to act as my DHCP server. After the Pi was acting as a my DHCP router I noticed hundreds of log entries in the pihole.log file. The Pi was being flooded with these kind of requests: 10:17:10 dnsmasq-dhcp[20546]: DHCPINFORM(eth0) 192.168.1.41 dc:a6:32:65:89:d9 10:17:10 dnsmasq-dhcp[20546]: DHCPACK(eth0) 192.168.1.41 dc:a6:32:65:89:d9 desertpi Literally dozens of entries per second. As it turns out, I set my other two PIs to static IP addresses using the GUI interface, which put this into dhcpcd.conf file: interface eth0 inform 192.168.1.41 static routers=192.168.1.1 static domain_name_servers=192.168.1.1 When I changed it to this there were no more log entries as listed above (i.e. changed 'inform' to 'static') interface eth0 static ip_address=192.168.1.41/24 static routers=192.168.1.1 static domain_name_servers=192.168.1.1 As it turns out there is a bug in dhcp that causes INFORM messages to flood the router. Since my Netgear router acted as the dhcp server previously, I never saw these entries (the netgear log must not display them). But, I had always wondered why my PI's network LED was always blinking so much I could only find two article discussing this: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/116121/huge-syslog-filled-with-dhcpcd-lines https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=265516 My take away: Don't use the GUI to configure things. :) Hope this helps someone... Thanks, Peter --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: HaveIBeenPwned.com
I would always suggest to get a secondary account to use on sites that your not familiar with. That way you can use your primary account on secure sites that you use the most. On 3/22/22 10:00, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hi, Watching a video that suggested using https://haveibeenpwned.com/ to see if any of email accounts have been hacked. Anyone familiar with https://haveibeenpwned.com/ ? I do not want to enter email accounts into an unknown website. Thanks!! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: cyber war / moving back to Linux
I have been researching all the ways to harden my linux box so I don't have problems. But some of the research I have found to be out of date so I may check on here for things I want to harden my linux box against any type of attacks. On 3/22/22 09:46, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hi, I understand there is a cyber war going on. I understand it is the worse so far. I hear it is coming from Russia. I moved to Windows about 6 years ago for business reasons. Those reasons have since passed. I do have one piece of software that runs on Win or MAC. So I am thinking of running that on a Win laptop I have and it will be isolated for the most part. I'm thinking it is time to move back to Linux for my laptop. I think we need to open a discussion on this cyber war. Thoughts? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot - gas price
That is not good. I know they don't seem to think buses are needed past the baseline road for some reason, but some places do have buses south of the baseline road. On 3/20/22 13:29, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I live far south in the east valley. Public transportation is not really an option. On 2022-03-17 15:34, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: It’s called public transportation. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 15:31, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: Are you kidding? just over a year ago it was under $2 a gallon. furthermore, who is going to commute to work in Phoenix in the coming months? On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:22:12 PM MST, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss wrote: I just paid $4.49 at Costco which was only .07/gallon less than surrounding gas stations :( I can only hope our national politicians pull their heads from their rectum and open domestic oil production again soon. They're blaming Ukraine, but it was already approaching $4 before Russian invaded. If anyone had doubts that overreliance on foreign supply chains could be problematic, the last several years should have made it clear. I feel really sorry for poor people... how are they coping with these price increases everywhere? On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in florida. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ransomeware
No matter how you configure wine on Linux you still have a 60 or 70% chance of getting ransomeware or virus. It’s no different than running windows on Linux. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, at 19:37, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: > How should a wine user configure wine properly? > > On 3/7/22 17:59, Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> It affects all users on all platforms. Typically though, Linux users are >> usually more technically inclined and therefore less likely to be had by >> clicking links and other poor online behavior. Less likely does not mean >> immune. >> >> Thanks, >> Alexander >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+ >> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 5:50 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> is that a windows problem or do we also have to worry about it? >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: external U.S.robotics fax modem
I figured you are busy with other things. I myself keep busy too. On 3/19/22 12:02, der.hans wrote: Am 11. Mar, 2022 schwätzte Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss so: moin moin Harold, My apologies, I haven't gotten the chance to look in the garage. I should have time today or tomorrow. ciao, der.hans I would like that. Thanks. It be helpful to me to have my computer send and receive fax’s. On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 23:14, der.hans wrote: Am 10. Mar, 2022 schwätzte Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss so: moin moin, I have a couple old external modems if you need one. I haven't ever used them for fax, so no idea if that works. Actually, no idea if they work, but I ran into them while cleaning up the garage a couple weeks ago. If I can find them again I can take pictures to see if they look like models that will work. If they will, I can likely run them up to you next week. For editing uneditable images I've been using xournal since Ted mentioned it years and years ago. I mostly use it for PDFs, but I think I've used it for PNG and JPG as well. Perhaps I first converted them to PDF. Dunno. Even if you still have to fax using a tool like xournal might at least save you some dead tree time. ciao, der.hans I'm looking to setup my computer for faxes sending and receiving. I'm looking at using the U.S. robotics fax modem but unsure if the two fax software made for Linux will support it as I would be using a USB adapter for serial port connection to the fax modem. Anyone out they have any suggestions or advise how I should setup my Linux box for using faxes or what to watch out for type of problems. This fax modem is the only thing I can think of as I am low income and don't have much money for the month. I once used such a modem with Linux a couple of decades ago when I use to run a ham radio gateway back in Maine. But I used a script for the fax modem to make the connection. So it will run with Linux. -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # "Wasted day. Wasted life. Dessert, please." -- Steven Meretzky -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot - gas price
I think this is gotten way way off topic. There is always someone to make things political. All it was was a question about a gas price and I thought this was a Linux user group. On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, at 06:58, Thomas Cameron via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Sincerely - fuck off with the bullshit MAGA hat wearing politics. Don't > email me directly again. > > On 3/17/2022 10:23 PM, JD Austin wrote: >> Show them you get your news from only one side without telling them... (I >> couldn't resist): >> https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart >> Looks like you're living in an echo chamber of mostly one bias which is just >> opposite of Greg's. >> * https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias >> * https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slate/ >> * https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ >> * https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/ >> * The convenience.org link seems to be a blog of some sort for the NACS >> magazine. It seems mostly balanced on bias from what I can tell. >> The reason "Donald Trump was a relative success story, with prices climbing >> a mere 6 cents during his time in office ($2.33 on Jan. 23, 2017; $2.39 on >> Jan. 25, 2021)." is because he opened domestic oil production to offset when >> foreign sources reduce the oil supply for our refineries. Biden shut it down >> again. >> It doesn't take a huge stretch of logic to understand that shutting down >> domestic crude oil in place and pipelines in development adversely affected >> the price of fuel in America. >> When Biden shut down domestic oil and pipelines to get oil from closer >> sources we lost all the control he had over the topic since we rely on >> foreign sources which might not really be so friendly to America otherwise. >> I agree that it's not all Biden's fault... our house and senate made a mess >> of this country playing politics and I don't have a ton of faith in their >> leadership. Only 2 years until it gets really ugly again. >> >> JD >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 7:05 PM Thomas Cameron via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> Tell me you're an idiot without telling me you're an idiot. >>> >>> https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/dont-blame-biden-for-gas-prices.html >>> https://www.convenience.org/Media/conveniencecorner/Does-the-President-Control-Gas-Prices >>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/10/fact-check-higher-gas-prices-due-national-and-seasonal-demand/5253346001/ >>> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/09/us/politics/fact-check-republicans-biden-gas.html >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/13/bogus-gop-claim-that-biden-is-responsible-higher-gasoline-prices/ >>> >>> On 3/17/22 17:12, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: Lets go Brandon! >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot - gas price
I know how bad the homelessness is getting. Lots of young people that can work or bettering themselves won't look for work or better themselves because they think they can bum more money from drivers at intersection that what you can make at a job. Lots of those young people are becoming destructive towards other people property like it's a big thrill to them and at most bus stops it's getting dangerous just trying to go past a bus stop when in a wheelchair. I'm in a wheelchair and have to go past those stops just to go to the store..I also see elderly people living on the streets because their rents were jacked up to force them out so Landlords can fix them up to have high paying tenants. Phoenix doesn't have rent control and there is a big shortage in fire and police officers too. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 16:01, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On top of that in case you haven't noticed the homeless population has > exploded in the Phoenix area. > Try ridding the bus-public transportation, with these people who sadly > in some cases haven't had a bath > or shower in some time. > > Its really sad that the American culture has been broken so badly that > one has to help others see what > is in plain sight. We live adjacent to a state with arguably the worst > homeless population in the country. > > Have you ever stopped to ask yourself or others what is the cause of > all this??? > > High gas prices. > unaffordable housing. > many households living paycheck to paycheck. > explosion in crime. > explosion in homelessness. > recreational drug use on the rise for a civilization like ours and you > think this is normal? > > $14 Billion in aid to Ukraine while all this is happening? > Where is that money going? > How about a hired mercenary army to fight Russia per the refuges from > the Middle East. > Why do you think they pushed for EU to take in refuges from the middle > East? > By the way, EU doesn't have children like the previous generations did > and thee now > know it takes at least 2.0 children per couple to keep an empire alive > so these people > from Africa and others are nothing but blood and treasure to these > neo-cons. > > Tech people are usually some of the smartest in a civilization > historically speaking. > As per Thucydides the country that rules in technology rules the world. > > Surely the breadth and width of your understanding goes further than > these few talking points. > > How about this. > There is a real effort to turn us all in the West into a Socialistic > civilization based on Plato's Republic. > Democracy? > Try a empire ruled by a Philosopher king as he stated in his book. The > problem is there is no person > on this earth that is perfect and never will be. We have a Republic, > not a Democracy in the USA. > > Dig a little deeper and try a little harder to understand your world. > If you don't find the truth there are > many out there looking for the naïve to take advantage of. > > Plato's Republic. > Plato's Meno. > Plato's Timaeus. > Plato's Protagoras. > St. Augustine's City of God. > Aristotle's Ethics. > Jean-Jacques Rousseau - The Social Contract. > Jean-Jacques Rousseau - Discourse on Inequality. > > > On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:35:25 PM MST, JD Austin > wrote: > > > It hasn't been near $2 a gallon for 1.5 years. > https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=AZ > https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:31 PM greg zegan wrote: >> Are you kidding? >> just over a year ago it was under $2 a gallon. >> furthermore, who is going to commute to work in Phoenix in the coming months? >> >> On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:22:12 PM MST, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >> >> I just paid $4.49 at Costco which was only .07/gallon less than surrounding >> gas stations :( >> I can only hope our national politicians pull their heads from their rectum >> and open domestic oil production again soon. >> They're blaming Ukraine, but it was already approaching $4 before Russian >> invaded. >> If anyone had doubts that overreliance on foreign supply chains could be >> problematic, the last several years should have made it clear. >> I feel really sorry for poor people... how are they coping with these price >> increases everywhere? >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in florida. >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >
Re: ot - gas price
It’s called public transportation. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 15:31, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Are you kidding? > just over a year ago it was under $2 a gallon. > furthermore, who is going to commute to work in Phoenix in the coming months? > > On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:22:12 PM MST, JD Austin via > PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > I just paid $4.49 at Costco which was only .07/gallon less than > surrounding gas stations :( > I can only hope our national politicians pull their heads from their > rectum and open domestic oil production again soon. > They're blaming Ukraine, but it was already approaching $4 before > Russian invaded. > If anyone had doubts that overreliance on foreign supply chains could > be problematic, the last several years should have made it clear. > I feel really sorry for poor people... how are they coping with these > price increases everywhere? > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in florida. >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot - gas price
Maybe drivers will have to start riding a bike. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 15:21, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I just paid $4.49 at Costco which was only .07/gallon less than > surrounding gas stations :( > I can only hope our national politicians pull their heads from their > rectum and open domestic oil production again soon. > They're blaming Ukraine, but it was already approaching $4 before > Russian invaded. > If anyone had doubts that overreliance on foreign supply chains could > be problematic, the last several years should have made it clear. > I feel really sorry for poor people... how are they coping with these > price increases everywhere? > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in florida. >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: external U.S.robotics fax modem
I would like that. Thanks. It be helpful to me to have my computer send and receive fax’s. On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 23:14, der.hans wrote: > Am 10. Mar, 2022 schwätzte Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss so: > > moin moin, > > I have a couple old external modems if you need one. I haven't ever used > them for fax, so no idea if that works. Actually, no idea if they work, > but I ran into them while cleaning up the garage a couple weeks ago. > > If I can find them again I can take pictures to see if they look like > models that will work. If they will, I can likely run them up to you next > week. > > For editing uneditable images I've been using xournal since Ted mentioned > it years and years ago. I mostly use it for PDFs, but I think I've used it > for PNG and JPG as well. Perhaps I first converted them to PDF. Dunno. > > Even if you still have to fax using a tool like xournal might at least > save you some dead tree time. > > ciao, > > der.hans > >> I'm looking to setup my computer for faxes sending and receiving. I'm >> looking at using the U.S. robotics fax modem but unsure if the two fax >> software made for Linux will support it as I would be using a USB adapter >> for serial port connection to the fax modem. >> Anyone out they have any suggestions or advise how I should setup my Linux >> box for using faxes or what to watch out for type of problems. This fax >> modem is the only thing I can think of as I am low income and don't have >> much money for the month. I once used such a modem with Linux a couple of >> decades ago when I use to run a ham radio gateway back in Maine. But I used >> a script for the fax modem to make the connection. So it will run with Linux. > > -- > # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org > # "Wasted day. Wasted life. Dessert, please." -- Steven Meretzky -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: external U.S.robotics fax modem
Well, you know how insurances are.They want to mail me the documents or forms yet they know my email address and doesn't want to send it by email. They have the capability to send me a type of file that would allow me to fill out and sign my name via computer but they won't do that. Plus paperwork from my wheelchair place about repairs. Also from doctors and appointments. Just once someone from my insurance put a letter into my email and sent it to me instead of sending it by mail. With all the technology out there they will want to use fax machines because they are more secure when sending documents they say. A PDF file is an encrypted file and can't be seen for info while in route. But you can't tell them nothing. I know that there is eFax, fax to email, or email to fax. I'm just getting a little pissed that some of the mail my insurance sends me doesn't get to me and lately the mail at times is a little scary wondering if it will get to me or not. So if I want to get my documents from them I will get a fax machine until they smarten up and start using the new technology that is available. I honestly can't afford to pay the online fax service as I'm very low income. All my documents and stuff I get in the mail is scanned into the storage computer so I can pull it up when necessary when I happen to be talking to them on the phone. I know all the technology that's out there as I look forward to the new stuff that comes out. But insurances and other businesses are getting a little behind the 8 ball. On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 19:35, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I suppose maybe some industries are still weird like that still and > require some sort of fax, but for probably a better chunk of a decade I > just edit the PDF, apply a transparent png of my signature I created, > and "sign" docs as needed to email back to someone easy enough. Saves > on dead trees, and an annoyed me as I have to travel somewhere for a > working printer and/or fax, plus quick turn-around for signed docs. > > What are you doing that requires such dedication to legacy technology. > ie faxing? Nothing cheaper than free by not printing or faxing > anything, and Master PDF Editor still has a free version that works > splendidly that I've used for most or all that past decade. > > -mb > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:49 PM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> I usually get documents or forms that needs to be done on the computer. I >> guess I'm just old school. :) >> The way the mail is getting slower and slower. I have been waiting for >> documents to come in the mail and never get it. >> I'm still waiting for a document to come in the mail from a month ago. >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 16:42, Matt Graham via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > On 2022-03-10 15:30, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> I'm looking to setup my computer for faxes sending and receiving. I'm >> >> looking at using the U.S. robotics fax modem but unsure if the two fax >> >> software made for Linux will support it as I would be using a USB >> >> adapter for serial port connection to the fax modem. >> > >> > I think most USB to 9-pin converters work pretty well these days. They >> > should show up as /dev/ttyUSB0 . efax and efax-gtk (or hylafax) should >> > both work with whatever device node it shows up as. >> > >> >> I once used such a modem with Linux a couple of decades ago. >> >> But I used a script for the fax modem to make the >> >> connection. So [will it] run with Linux[?] >> > >> > Highly probable if the thing has a 9-pin serial port. ISTR hylafax was >> > a thing in 1998, so it's not like this hasn't been a solved problem for >> > a while. The main question I have is: Why is anyone faxing anything? >> > It's probably faster to take a picture of 1 page and mail it with a cell >> > phone now than it is to scan 1 page, encode it as G3, convert it to >> > analog, transmit it, and reverse all that to print it out at the >> > destination. >> > >> > -- >> > Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress >> > There is no Darkness in Eternity >> > But only Light too dim for us to see. >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> -- >> Harold Hartley >> 17632 N. 5th place >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >> wheelie...@ownmail.net >> --
Re: external U.S.robotics fax modem
I usually get documents or forms that needs to be done on the computer. I guess I'm just old school. :) The way the mail is getting slower and slower. I have been waiting for documents to come in the mail and never get it. I'm still waiting for a document to come in the mail from a month ago. On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 16:42, Matt Graham via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On 2022-03-10 15:30, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> I'm looking to setup my computer for faxes sending and receiving. I'm >> looking at using the U.S. robotics fax modem but unsure if the two fax >> software made for Linux will support it as I would be using a USB >> adapter for serial port connection to the fax modem. > > I think most USB to 9-pin converters work pretty well these days. They > should show up as /dev/ttyUSB0 . efax and efax-gtk (or hylafax) should > both work with whatever device node it shows up as. > >> I once used such a modem with Linux a couple of decades ago. >> But I used a script for the fax modem to make the >> connection. So [will it] run with Linux[?] > > Highly probable if the thing has a 9-pin serial port. ISTR hylafax was > a thing in 1998, so it's not like this hasn't been a solved problem for > a while. The main question I have is: Why is anyone faxing anything? > It's probably faster to take a picture of 1 page and mail it with a cell > phone now than it is to scan 1 page, encode it as G3, convert it to > analog, transmit it, and reverse all that to print it out at the > destination. > > -- > Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress > There is no Darkness in Eternity > But only Light too dim for us to see. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
external U.S.robotics fax modem
I'm looking to setup my computer for faxes sending and receiving. I'm looking at using the U.S. robotics fax modem but unsure if the two fax software made for Linux will support it as I would be using a USB adapter for serial port connection to the fax modem. Anyone out they have any suggestions or advise how I should setup my Linux box for using faxes or what to watch out for type of problems. This fax modem is the only thing I can think of as I am low income and don't have much money for the month. I once used such a modem with Linux a couple of decades ago when I use to run a ham radio gateway back in Maine. But I used a script for the fax modem to make the connection. So it will run with Linux. -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: a new Debian 10 install
I had same problem but I picked up the laptop and tip it on its side and the screen moved around til it was upright. On Sat, Jul 31, 2021, at 10:24, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Hello, > The other day I installed a fresh copy of Debian 10 on my HP 840 > laptop. Previously I had Debian 9 on it and had a kernel > panic error which crashed the system. I ran the fdsk command to try > and restore it but as of today its still down. > > I put in a new hard drive and ran through the install. Now when I try > and log in the screen is upside down. I am not sure what happened. > Maybe the OS thinks this is a computer pad device or something. Does > anyone know how I can fix this? I can log in as > either root or myself. > > please advise. > thanks, > Greg > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LFS
But it's not accessible to the hearing impaired. I had mentioned to gnome on their list and was told they can't put caption into gnome because it is proprietary and gnome feels they can not put it into gnome. I don't understand that since it's a standard thing worldwide. So how can it be proprietary. On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, at 09:48, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Because of some secondary dependencies that are probably needed. And > yes, someone has already made the comment about it being bloated. > However, I disagree as Gnome is fully accessible to the blind and is > compatible with the dozen or so known screen readers for the blind. > KDE, However, is not. It might be slimmer, but that comes with a cost. > > -Eric > From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Division of > Developmental code for accessibility > > > > On Jul 18, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss > > wrote: > > > > You know I'm doing Linux From Scratch and I'm looking into Beyond > > Linux from Scratch. Well I look at KDE and I look at Gnome. Gnome has > > about twice the pAckages to compile. Why is that? > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Housing
I remember when they soldered some of them to the main board on some of those 486's... On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, at 19:06, Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On 7/18/21 5:54 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > My dad was just telling me I could get old laptop flash and make a > > drive with it. My little brain can't wrap itself around that. Anyone > > know what he is talking about? > > > > > Laptop hard drives are the same as desktop hard drives. You open the > laptop up, remove it, and you can reuse it on another machine (usually, > unless its soldered to the main board). > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LFS
If your looking for a smaller faster one. Have you thought about Xfce.. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, at 19:05, Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On 7/18/21 4:58 PM, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Because it's more bloated as I see it. > > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, at 16:33, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > >> You know I'm doing Linux From Scratch and I'm looking into Beyond > >> Linux from Scratch. Well I look at KDE and I look at Gnome. Gnome has > >> about twice the pAckages to compile. Why is that? > > > From a bloat perspective, both are about equally bloated. > > However, KDE has incredible dependency-hell. Gnome is a bit more > straight forward. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LFS
Because it's more bloated as I see it. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, at 16:33, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > You know I'm doing Linux From Scratch and I'm looking into Beyond > Linux from Scratch. Well I look at KDE and I look at Gnome. Gnome has > about twice the pAckages to compile. Why is that? > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: compromised passwords
Don’t use chrome. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, at 14:27, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Whenever I try to save a password in chrome a window pops up saying I > have 157 compromised passwords. Then, after I click the inspect button > I am informed I have no saved passwords. How do I get that notice to > stop appearing and passwords to be saved again? Oh, I forgot to say > thay passwords are not being saved. > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: is my power supply dieing?(supplies)
I usually will go online to tigerdirect, Newegg, Amazon and other online computer store. On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, at 07:21, mike enriquez via PLUG-discuss wrote: > This brings up the subject of Computer Supplies. Where does everyone go > to get their computer supplies. I use to go to Fry's Electronics but > last time I went there it looked very empty. I use to get my power > supply there but now I don't want to drive there for nothing. At times > like this (COVID) I try Amazon. So my question to the group is "Where > do you go to get your Computer Supplies"? Thanks to everyone. > Mike Enriquez > > > > On July 14, 2020 at 12:00 AM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss > > wrote: > > > > > > Some boards have 2 fans for CPU - especially boards designed for > > overclocking. The face that you don't have any voltage/RPMs across the > > fan3 may not be a problem. > > > > The only way you are going to be sure to tell it is a power supply is > > generally to replace it. You could replace CPU, memory, or board one at > > a time, but those are generally more expensive than a PSU. > > > > I have had many times that the PSU was the issue when running a compute > > cluster years ago. In one case the PSW was not getting enough airflow > > due to the positional design of the chassis vs the fan location of a > > replacement CPU which had undergone a spec change, and therefore wouls > > reach thermal protection shutdown. In another, a thermal expansion in a > > PSU component when under load would cause a short, and the system would > > shutoff. In another case - dirty output due to a power limiting > > component that was failing cause all kinds of problems, eventually > > causing us to have to replace RAM, CPU, MB, and a RAID card because of > > "brown out" type situations. We were only to know what happened after > > the manufacturer did some testing on the RMAed PSU. When you have 850 > > servers all built assembled from components (academic environment where > > the Professor got more systems for his grant money by buying components > > and using undergrad/graduate research assistants to assemble them), some > > interesting things happen, may of them were power supply related. > > > > Good luck, but I think you may save more in time and effort to just > > replace it. I have a 400W ATX powersupply you can have if you want to > > come get it. I am not sure how much wattage you need, but if 400 will > > cut it - that one can be yours for the low low price of gas money. > > > > Mac > > > > Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote on 7/13/20 8:41 PM: > > > inxi tells me this about my fans: > > > > > > Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-1: 3139 fan-3: 0 > > > > > > So my cpu fan isn't working. I thought my computer would CRASH/FREEZE > > > more often if the cpu fan wasn't working. What is: fan-1: 3139 fan-3: > > > 0 > > > > > > I'm not sure but I think my power supply fan is running slow. Is that a > > > thing? > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:26 PM Michael wrote: > > >> hey I forgot to tell ya all that last night after I put the > > >> system under stress I got it to freeze. > > >> > > >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:29 PM Michael wrote: > > >>> when I'm just running memory test the temp is 46 > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:06 PM Michael wrote: > > that was it under stress. > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:55 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > > wrote: > > > If that's your idle temperature, that is terrible. I'll bet if you > > > run > > > stress while monitoring your temperature you'll see it shoot up even > > > higher than that. > > > > > > (I cook chicken sous vide at 60C) > > > > > > Brian Cluff > > > > > > On 7/13/20 10:05 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > >> Do 80 is bad? Mine was at 89 when I first started it > > > --- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Donald "Mac" McCarthy > > Director, Field Operations > > Open Source Context > > +1.602.584.4445 > > m...@oscontext.com > > https://oscontext.com > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ
Re: Zoom Conferencing
I've always said I would never use zoom for security reasons. But I read an article that a Chinese American was on zoom and wanted to hold a candle vigil for those lost at tennamen square and ended up being locked out of zoom. The reason was is any user using zoom has to follow Chinese local laws since zoom is owned by the Chinese. So any info used on zoom is collected by the Chinese because its going through the great firewall in China. On 6/27/20 12:30 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: So, until a few months ago, I've been a fan of zoom, great linux support. Well, good enough at least for full bi-directional sharing and remote control. With covid, their various faux pas in relation to security, etc, it's gotten rocky enough I am at the point I need to switch. Problem 1) I cannot log into my account. I go to any web login for them, and it gives me a username, password prompt, ok - then a recaptcha. But the recaptcha never shows up... I simply cannot login, it tells me I didn't fill out the recaptcha. But again I don't see a fscking recaptcha on the site despite how ever much scripting I let in. It simply doesn't seem to work... Insert aggro here. Curious if anyone else has seen this, as this is linux, windoze, android, or ios I've tested. Problem 2) I cannot log in to update my payment info to use it pretty soon. I'm like a month over due with a cc expired, and I still cannot log in to update my payment info. This began 2 months ago, and about every 2 weeks I get a support update to say that due to covid19, they're over worked with _no_other_response_ within 2 months. Whoever runs their support org should be fired. I tried to call a human with the weekend when I have some time, no weekend support, even for revenue generating events. Hmm. I have other annoyances, but the fact that I can't even pay them if I wanted to is a disastrous mess that tells me I should run in another direction. Problem 3) Anything better folks have found lately? I have cash in hand, I just need a not-crappy company. Thanks in advance! -mb --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, Arizona 85022 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ebay port scans your pc on every visit.
Firefox did away with fingerprinting as well as a few other browsers. On 5/25/20 6:23 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: Am 25. May, 2020 schwätzte Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss so: moin moin Alexander, The only outbound ports open without concern are 123(UDP), 53(UDP), 80(TCP), and 443(TCP). All other ports are blocked, outbound to the web, on my system. If I read this, this would go around my guards, as they are "piggybacking" on 443 in and out, right? Yeah, they'd certainly be sending whatever information they find as a ruquest to the server on port 443. It looks like normal web traffic because it is normal web traffic. There's also html5 gathering info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_fingerprinting Here's a fun one. At least this one's Open Source ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evercookie ciao, der.hans Thanks, Alexander Sent from my Galaxy S10+ On Mon, May 25, 2020, 17:12 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: I'm not sure if anything can be done to stop port scanning of ports. I'm really not having a big concern since I have 2 firewalls anyway. I have a firewall on one device and a firewall on my computer. So the only ports they will see is the one on my first device and not the computer. At least that's my theory. On 5/25/20 1:17 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2020 20:52:43 -0700 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: But I close up ports that doesn't need to be open in order to make my system safe. You'd be surprised at how many ports are open that can leave a system open for attacks. When you say "close up ports", do you mean make sure there's no executable listening at that port, firewalling that port so nothing can come in or out, or something else? SteveT Steve Litt May 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, Arizona 85022 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, Arizona 85022 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ebay port scans your pc on every visit.
Not sure which port they scan to allow them on the inside of the firewall.
On 5/25/20 5:48 PM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
The only outbound ports open without concern are 123(UDP), 53(UDP),
80(TCP), and 443(TCP). All other ports are blocked, outbound to the
web, on my system.
If I read this, this would go around my guards, as they are
"piggybacking" on 443 in and out, right?
Thanks,
Alexander
Sent from my Galaxy S10+
On Mon, May 25, 2020, 17:12 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss
<mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
I'm not sure if anything can be done to stop port scanning of ports.
I'm really not having a big concern since I have 2 firewalls
anyway. I
have a firewall on one device and a firewall on my computer. So
the only
ports they will see is the one on my first device and not the
computer.
At least that's my theory.
On 5/25/20 1:17 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2020 20:52:43 -0700
> Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
>
>> But I close up ports that doesn't need to be
>> open in order to make my system safe. You'd be surprised at how
many
>> ports are open that can leave a system open for attacks.
> When you say "close up ports", do you mean make sure there's no
> executable listening at that port, firewalling that port so
nothing can
> come in or out, or something else?
>
> SteveT
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Re: Ebay port scans your pc on every visit.
I'm not sure if anything can be done to stop port scanning of ports. I'm really not having a big concern since I have 2 firewalls anyway. I have a firewall on one device and a firewall on my computer. So the only ports they will see is the one on my first device and not the computer. At least that's my theory. On 5/25/20 1:17 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2020 20:52:43 -0700 Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: But I close up ports that doesn't need to be open in order to make my system safe. You'd be surprised at how many ports are open that can leave a system open for attacks. When you say "close up ports", do you mean make sure there's no executable listening at that port, firewalling that port so nothing can come in or out, or something else? SteveT Steve Litt May 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, Arizona 85022 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ebay port scans your pc on every visit.
Yes. On Mon, May 25, 2020, at 01:17, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2020 20:52:43 -0700 > Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > But I close up ports that doesn't need to be > > open in order to make my system safe. You'd be surprised at how many > > ports are open that can leave a system open for attacks. > > When you say "close up ports", do you mean make sure there's no > executable listening at that port, firewalling that port so nothing can > come in or out, or something else? > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > May 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques > of the Successful Technologist > http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ebay port scans your pc on every visit.
That really gives a lot to think about at how many other sites are doing the same thing. But I close up ports that doesn't need to be open in order to make my system safe. You'd be surprised at how many ports are open that can leave a system open for attacks. On 5/24/20 8:15 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ebay-port-scans-visitors-computers-for-remote-access-programs/ This was a bit disturbing to read today. Ebay injects a few javascript connections back to your requesting system, measures a basic socket connection, telling them if the port is open or not, amounting to effectively a local host port scan for specified ports, behind a firewall, from a web page you visited. They are doing this looking for remote admin applications in fact, rdp, vnc, teamviewer, many others. Hmm. So any public website can query any port from visiting a web page, and possibly interact with any sort of local or other api on my system? I wouldn't think Javascript would be allowed to chain off a host like that, or at least have protections from certain abuse. I suppose it's valid if linking to another site, but JS/Browsers allowing local random port use like this, seems ebay is probably not the only ones to abuse this in certain ways. I know you can do some interesting things with websockets, seems chaining via same methods to remote interact would be trivial. This is pretty devious actually, I'm both a bit scared for ebay, not to mention all the other sites I "trust", let alone the ones I don't. Everyone else that just allows pervasively javascript is just hozed. Which is standard for everyone since javascript existed. I use noscript pervasively, and whitelist only valid sites. Ebay is a valid site, didn't think I had to protect myself, but how would you protect against this? Curious also the take from web dev's on this, other than thanks for the tip. :) -mb --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, Arizona 85022 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: chrome v chromium
Check out the source code to see what it does and doesn't do. On 5/9/20 12:48 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: How are the two different? I figured I'd give chromium a spin and I can't figure it out. I mean it even took the settings and bookmarks I have for chrome and I think chromium is more secure. Does it track you like chrome does? -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl Phoenix, Arizona 85022 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: jitsi updates
They really don't have a desktop option from what it says on the website. On 4/16/20 6:37 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: moin moin, jitsi announced some recent improvements. The mute all has been there since I first started trying meet.jit.si unless I'm misunderstanding the announcement. Jitsi still has a long way to go, but I'm really happy to see ongoing work. https://jitsi.org/news/features-update-april-2020/ ciao, der.hans -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl. Phoenix, Arizona 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: more zoom issues
That is why I made my comments why I won't use zoom because of the newer security and privacy issues. On 4/16/20 6:33 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: moin moin, "As part of our research, we identified what we believe to be a serious security issue with Zoom’s Waiting Room feature. We have initiated a responsible disclosure process with Zoom, which is currently being responsive." Tux makes an appearance and a half in the article. These appear to be current issues rather than the issues from a year ago. The article also has some responses to Zoom's public statements. https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/move-fast-roll-your-own-crypto-a-quick-look-at-the-confidentiality-of-zoom-meetings/ ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl. Phoenix, Arizona 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: video conferencing last night
I will not use zoom with all the privacy and security problems it's having. On 4/8/20 4:52 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: moin moin, it did not go well We were chatting in jitsi prior to starting, but once I started the meeting I could no longer hear others. We moved to bluejeans and a couple of us were not able to connect. Afterwards I tested zoom with Mac. Had some issues there as well. Sound kept getting reset. Perhaps that's what was happening with jitsi. As I wasn't presenting in zoom, we took time to get my client reset. I haven't had that type of problem with either jitsi or zoom in the past. Perhaps it was something I was doing last night. In testing zoom, I discovered that attendees have to present a name and email address. Neither have to be accurate and the domain doesn't need to exist. We were able to test making me a host, giving attendees the mic and taking it away. We're up for more testing tonight if anyone wants to get familiar with the host tools. Not too complicated, but it some unexpected places. zoom requires an app or browser plugin. You can't just use a browser as we can with jitsi and BigBlueButton. We can configure zoom to not allowing anyone into the conference until the host shows up to avoid a Slap Shot style pre-game. (diable Join by host) We can also put attendees in their own waiting rooms until a host places them in the conference. (enable Waiting room) Mac also pointed out that zoom can live stream to YouTube. We can also do that with jitsi. We could then setup the video conferencing for only speakers and moderators and everyone else views via YouTube. We then take questions via IRC or other mechanism. I believe we can do a hidden YouTube broadcast that goes away after the meeting. We could use Brian's account for that or setup a new account. Let me know if you'd like to help with testing tonight. ciao, der.hans -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th Pl. Phoenix, Arizona 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
