Re: path
figured that one out... it was the live media I were looking at On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 5:03 PM Michael wrote: > Interesting: I wanted to label the partition arch was installed on (makes > it easier to mount as the device label changes between sdb and > sdc) but discovered that arch isn't installed on a partition and as far as > I can tell there isn't a file system on it. At least I loaded gparted to > inspect it and the box that shows the partition/size/filesystem type is > grayed out and when I go to the partition pull down everything in it is > grayed out > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:44 PM Michael wrote: > >> Okay Alex... I got arch to install. I am assuming just getting the >> command prompt is what I want. Before I head over there is there anything I >> should do from the host computer before I leave the world of gui (like >> maybe I should download something and put it onto the USB) and enter the >> land of archlinux? >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:18 PM Michael wrote: >> >>> I figured that is what you wanted me to do so I am burning it to the USB >>> drive now. Strange... we still call ot burning though that is what you do >>> to a dvd/cd. >>> even stranger I got an error when installing to the USB but upon >>> restarting my computer (and forgetting to disconnect the USB) arch booted. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>> >>>> Or, if you want a pre-compiled app for your distro: >>>> >>>> Other Packages (may be outdated): Ubuntu >>>> <http://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa> Debian >>>> <http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=unetbootin> >>>> Fedora <http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/unetbootin> Suse >>>> <http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL=1=unetbootin> >>>> Arch <http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/unetbootin/> >>>> Gentoo <http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-boot/unetbootin> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:38 AM Snyder, Alexander J < >>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Use "Unetbootin" a classic that I used for Years on LInux: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/unetbootin/unetbootin/releases/download/702/unetbootin-linux64-702.bin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:36 AM Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> rufus won't work... I have run linux since 98 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:22 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >>>>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay, from your existing desktop (Windows) download the ISO image, >>>>>>> and then download Rufus: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arch ISO (mirror): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/archlinux/iso/2021.09.01/archlinux-2021.09.01-x86_64.iso >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rufus (*only available for Mac/Windows*): >>>>>>> https://rufus.ie/en/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Follow those steps and let me know once you have created the >>>>>>> bootable USB drive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Alex. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Michael wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> well, that is kinda what I want. I want to build a package in a >>>>>>>> directory that is in the path so I don;t have to edit anything >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:40 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >>>>>>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Type: echo "$PATH" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to view the folders in your user path. Root will have a different >>>>>>>>> PATH. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can add to it by typing: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> export PATH="$PATH:/your/new/directory" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To append to the end. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Put that at the bottom of your "~/.bashrc" file. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Alexander. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss < >>>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What directory is in the path that is also accessible by the user? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: path
Interesting: I wanted to label the partition arch was installed on (makes it easier to mount as the device label changes between sdb and sdc) but discovered that arch isn't installed on a partition and as far as I can tell there isn't a file system on it. At least I loaded gparted to inspect it and the box that shows the partition/size/filesystem type is grayed out and when I go to the partition pull down everything in it is grayed out On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:44 PM Michael wrote: > Okay Alex... I got arch to install. I am assuming just getting the > command prompt is what I want. Before I head over there is there anything I > should do from the host computer before I leave the world of gui (like > maybe I should download something and put it onto the USB) and enter the > land of archlinux? > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:18 PM Michael wrote: > >> I figured that is what you wanted me to do so I am burning it to the USB >> drive now. Strange... we still call ot burning though that is what you do >> to a dvd/cd. >> even stranger I got an error when installing to the USB but upon >> restarting my computer (and forgetting to disconnect the USB) arch booted. >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >> >>> Or, if you want a pre-compiled app for your distro: >>> >>> Other Packages (may be outdated): Ubuntu >>> <http://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa> Debian >>> <http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=unetbootin> Fedora >>> <http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/unetbootin> Suse >>> <http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL=1=unetbootin> >>> Arch <http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/unetbootin/> >>> Gentoo <http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-boot/unetbootin> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> Alex. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:38 AM Snyder, Alexander J < >>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>> >>>> Use "Unetbootin" a classic that I used for Years on LInux: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://github.com/unetbootin/unetbootin/releases/download/702/unetbootin-linux64-702.bin >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:36 AM Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>> rufus won't work... I have run linux since 98 >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:22 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >>>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Okay, from your existing desktop (Windows) download the ISO image, >>>>>> and then download Rufus: >>>>>> >>>>>> Arch ISO (mirror): >>>>>> >>>>>> https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/archlinux/iso/2021.09.01/archlinux-2021.09.01-x86_64.iso >>>>>> >>>>>> Rufus (*only available for Mac/Windows*): >>>>>> https://rufus.ie/en/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow those steps and let me know once you have created the bootable >>>>>> USB drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Alex. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Michael wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> well, that is kinda what I want. I want to build a package in a >>>>>>> directory that is in the path so I don;t have to edit anything >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:40 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >>>>>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Type: echo "$PATH" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to view the folders in your user path. Root will have a different >>>>>>>> PATH. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can add to it by typing: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> export PATH="$PATH:/your/new/directory" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To append to the end. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Put that at the bottom of your "~/.bashrc" file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Alexander. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss < >>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What directory is in the path that is also accessible by the user? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: path
Okay Alex... I got arch to install. I am assuming just getting the command prompt is what I want. Before I head over there is there anything I should do from the host computer before I leave the world of gui (like maybe I should download something and put it onto the USB) and enter the land of archlinux? On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:18 PM Michael wrote: > I figured that is what you wanted me to do so I am burning it to the USB > drive now. Strange... we still call ot burning though that is what you do > to a dvd/cd. > even stranger I got an error when installing to the USB but upon > restarting my computer (and forgetting to disconnect the USB) arch booted. > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Snyder, Alexander J < > alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: > >> Or, if you want a pre-compiled app for your distro: >> >> Other Packages (may be outdated): Ubuntu >> <http://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa> Debian >> <http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=unetbootin> Fedora >> <http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/unetbootin> Suse >> <http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL=1=unetbootin> >> Arch <http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/unetbootin/> >> Gentoo <http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-boot/unetbootin> >> -- >> Thanks, >> Alex. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:38 AM Snyder, Alexander J < >> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >> >>> Use "Unetbootin" a classic that I used for Years on LInux: >>> >>> >>> https://github.com/unetbootin/unetbootin/releases/download/702/unetbootin-linux64-702.bin >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> Alex. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:36 AM Michael wrote: >>> >>>> rufus won't work... I have run linux since 98 >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:22 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay, from your existing desktop (Windows) download the ISO image, and >>>>> then download Rufus: >>>>> >>>>> Arch ISO (mirror): >>>>> >>>>> https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/archlinux/iso/2021.09.01/archlinux-2021.09.01-x86_64.iso >>>>> >>>>> Rufus (*only available for Mac/Windows*): >>>>> https://rufus.ie/en/ >>>>> >>>>> Follow those steps and let me know once you have created the bootable >>>>> USB drive. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> well, that is kinda what I want. I want to build a package in a >>>>>> directory that is in the path so I don;t have to edit anything >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:40 PM Snyder, Alexander J < >>>>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Type: echo "$PATH" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to view the folders in your user path. Root will have a different >>>>>>> PATH. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can add to it by typing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> export PATH="$PATH:/your/new/directory" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To append to the end. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Put that at the bottom of your "~/.bashrc" file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Alexander. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss < >>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What directory is in the path that is also accessible by the user? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>> > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: path
Installing arch onto a USB stick is exactly the same as installing it to a hard disk; there's literally no difference in the installation method as Linux doesn't really care what the underlying disk is. The _only_ difference I can think of is, if using Grub, you'll want to use the "--removable" option so that you don't need a boot entry in your EFI for it to boot, though I personally use that even for regular installs so I don't have to mess with boot entries. If, however, by "install arch onto a persistent USB drive", you just want to use that to boot to install arch, you just need to write the arch iso to a usb stick using dd, Gnome Disks, Rufus (if on Windows), or whatever your favorite disk writing utility is. On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Thanks! I'm trying to install arch (your suggestion) onto a persistent USB > drive > and then to use that to install it to my main computer. > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:40 PM Snyder, Alexander J > wrote: >> Type: echo "$PATH" >> >> to view the folders in your user path. Root will have a different PATH. >> >> You can add to it by typing: >> >> export PATH="$PATH:/your/new/directory" >> >> To append to the end. >> >> Put that at the bottom of your "~/.bashrc" file. >> >> Thanks, >> Alexander. >> >> Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> What directory is in the path that is also accessible by the user? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: path
Is it more complicated than downloading the ISO and then formatting a USB drive with Rufus? Let me know if you need any help! Thanks, Alexander. Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 11:11 Michael wrote: > Thanks! I'm trying to install arch (your suggestion) onto a persistent USB > drive > and then to use that to install it to my main computer. > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:40 PM Snyder, Alexander J < > alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: > >> Type: echo "$PATH" >> >> to view the folders in your user path. Root will have a different PATH. >> >> You can add to it by typing: >> >> export PATH="$PATH:/your/new/directory" >> >> To append to the end. >> >> Put that at the bottom of your "~/.bashrc" file. >> >> Thanks, >> Alexander. >> >> Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> What directory is in the path that is also accessible by the user? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: path
Thanks! I'm trying to install arch (your suggestion) onto a persistent USB drive and then to use that to install it to my main computer. On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:40 PM Snyder, Alexander J < alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote: > Type: echo "$PATH" > > to view the folders in your user path. Root will have a different PATH. > > You can add to it by typing: > > export PATH="$PATH:/your/new/directory" > > To append to the end. > > Put that at the bottom of your "~/.bashrc" file. > > Thanks, > Alexander. > > Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> What directory is in the path that is also accessible by the user? >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: path
Type: echo "$PATH" to view the folders in your user path. Root will have a different PATH. You can add to it by typing: export PATH="$PATH:/your/new/directory" To append to the end. Put that at the bottom of your "~/.bashrc" file. Thanks, Alexander. Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 10:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > What directory is in the path that is also accessible by the user? > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Re: How to set up PATH ??
On 2020-10-04 12:31, joe--- via PLUG-discuss wrote: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa How can I edit .profile so it will find all of my shell script utilities in /home/joe/path ?? I tried adding the 4 "set PATH" lines shown below, but it does not work: # ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells. # This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login # exists. .profile is not read if .bash_profile exists. You probably have a .bash_profile that looks something like this: #This file is sourced by bash when you log in interactively. [ -f ~/.bashrc ] && . ~/.bashrc ...so in .bashrc , you would want to have export PATH=/home/joe/path:$PATH as well as all the other things you normally put in .bashrc . Also, I cannot find where to add desktops (workspaces) in this version of linux. Depends on the desktop environment. KDE, system settings->workspace behavior->virtual desktops, make sure there are at least 2. Then customize the task manager bar, and look for the "pager" widget and drag it to where you want. GNOME, gno idea. -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
How to set up PATH ??
My backup computer system has this version: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa How can I edit .profile so it will find all of my shell script utilities in /home/joe/path ?? I tried adding the 4 "set PATH" lines shown below, but it does not work: # ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells. # This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login # exists. # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples. # the files are located in the bash-doc package. # the default umask is set in /etc/profile; for setting the umask # for ssh logins, install and configure the libpam-umask package. #umask 022 # if running bash if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then # include .bashrc if it exists if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then . "$HOME/.bashrc" fi fi # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" fi === Also, I cannot find where to add desktops (workspaces) in this version of linux. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CentOS 6.x and CentOS 7 upgrade path and testing PHP on current and future versions.
Hi Keith, I have solid word from Red Hat that each minor rev to their major releases are 100% binary compatible, and yes, they lock the version numbers for the entire release. If you look at the RH version numbers, you'll see something like this: 5.3.3-27.el6_5 Everything after the dash is Red Hat's patch. So even after they backport a fix, the version (5.3.3) remains the same, but the patch number increases. So in this case, this is the 27th Red Hat patch to PHP 5.3.3. I had fun with that when this high-falutin' Washington DC Beltway Bandit risk assessment team came rolling in to do an assessment. They grabbed the SSL banner (0.9.8 something) off some web servers and called an OMG emergency meeting with the system administrators and management about why we're running outdated versions of Apache and SSL. After they presented their findings they all looked at me, and I said flatly We don't use Apache here. We use IHS. (IBM HTTP Server - based on Apache, but with IBM secret sauce.) You could have heard a pin drop as they huddle and whisper and look silly. Yeah, that was fun. They hate me. They should have done their research and asked a couple questions first. Oh well. Then I had to research the SSL thing and show the Red Hat Errata demonstrating the old version of SSL was patched against known vulnerabilities. As far as Centos and RHEL, I don't know why you assume CentOS would be a year or two later than RHEL. This article indicates CentOS will be tightly coupled and more fluid than RHEL: http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-727812/ However, there's a firewall between RHEL and CentOS developers. The net effect is that CentOS will continue to lag a bit behind RHEL in releases. Even so, CentOS releases will be coming out on RHEL heels rather than weeks or months behind. I'm amused that you are trying to plan 6-10 years out in the IT field. /sarcasm Regards, George Toft On 5/6/2014 10:23 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I want to test some PHP code on future versions of PHP / MySql / MariaDB. I'm running CentOS 6.5 that installs php 5.3.3-27 which is at it's end of life. It is my understanding RHEL 6.x will always be using PHP 5.3. Is that correct? RHEL will be supported until Nov of 2020. That is a long time to be running a PHP version that is at end of life. I understand RH will back port any bug or security fixes to PHP 5.3 (which actually breaks the version numbering system). It is my understanding RHEL will be based on Fedora 19. I am downloading Fedora 19 now. I assume testing on Fedora 19 will get me in the ball park for RHEL 7. RHEL 7 will come with MariaDB as it's default DB. I assume I will not see RHEL 7 in the form of CentOS 7 for year or two? I assume there will be several more releases of RHEL 6 since it will be supported for over 6 more years. If I plan to stay with CentOS 6.x and if it will use the same MySql and PHP versions until end of life and if RHEL/CentOS 7 will be based on Fedora 19, I assume that is the only configurations I need to test on and I assume that will take me through 6 to 10 years. Is this a fair expectation and a valid plan? Any feed back and advice is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CentOS 6.x and CentOS 7 upgrade path and testing PHP on current and future versions.
If each major version of RHEL is supported for 10 years, and if RHEL 7 is in beta then I think one can look at that and plan for the worse case scenario of being on 7 for more than 5 years. I'm planning based on a 5 year life cycle for my next project. I would like not to have to do anything major to this app for 5 or 6 years. I know I will need to make some minor changes along the way. My experience has been CentOS lags behind RHEL by about 6 months. Given RHEL is in beta, I assume it will not be released for months. Then it may take another 6 months to have CentOS 7 ready for production. 2 years is an over statement, however 8 - 12 months seems reasonable. I think we will stay on 6 for another 2 years probably. By that point we may have been on CentOS 6 for maybe 5 years. Thank you so much for your feedback!! Keith On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:49 AM, George Toft geo...@georgetoft.com wrote: Hi Keith, I have solid word from Red Hat that each minor rev to their major releases are 100% binary compatible, and yes, they lock the version numbers for the entire release. If you look at the RH version numbers, you'll see something like this: 5.3.3-27.el6_5 Everything after the dash is Red Hat's patch. So even after they backport a fix, the version (5.3.3) remains the same, but the patch number increases. So in this case, this is the 27th Red Hat patch to PHP 5.3.3. I had fun with that when this high-falutin' Washington DC Beltway Bandit risk assessment team came rolling in to do an assessment. They grabbed the SSL banner (0.9.8 something) off some web servers and called an OMG emergency meeting with the system administrators and management about why we're running outdated versions of Apache and SSL. After they presented their findings they all looked at me, and I said flatly We don't use Apache here. We use IHS. (IBM HTTP Server - based on Apache, but with IBM secret sauce.) You could have heard a pin drop as they huddle and whisper and look silly. Yeah, that was fun. They hate me. They should have done their research and asked a couple questions first. Oh well. Then I had to research the SSL thing and show the Red Hat Errata demonstrating the old version of SSL was patched against known vulnerabilities. As far as Centos and RHEL, I don't know why you assume CentOS would be a year or two later than RHEL. This article indicates CentOS will be tightly coupled and more fluid than RHEL: http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-727812/ However, there's a firewall between RHEL and CentOS developers. The net effect is that CentOS will continue to lag a bit behind RHEL in releases. Even so, CentOS releases will be coming out on RHEL heels rather than weeks or months behind. I'm amused that you are trying to plan 6-10 years out in the IT field. /sarcasm Regards, George Toft On 5/6/2014 10:23 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I want to test some PHP code on future versions of PHP / MySql / MariaDB. I'm running CentOS 6.5 that installs php 5.3.3-27 which is at it's end of life. It is my understanding RHEL 6.x will always be using PHP 5.3. Is that correct? RHEL will be supported until Nov of 2020. That is a long time to be running a PHP version that is at end of life. I understand RH will back port any bug or security fixes to PHP 5.3 (which actually breaks the version numbering system). It is my understanding RHEL will be based on Fedora 19. I am downloading Fedora 19 now. I assume testing on Fedora 19 will get me in the ball park for RHEL 7. RHEL 7 will come with MariaDB as it's default DB. I assume I will not see RHEL 7 in the form of CentOS 7 for year or two? I assume there will be several more releases of RHEL 6 since it will be supported for over 6 more years. If I plan to stay with CentOS 6.x and if it will use the same MySql and PHP versions until end of life and if RHEL/CentOS 7 will be based on Fedora 19, I assume that is the only configurations I need to test on and I assume that will take me through 6 to 10 years. Is this a fair expectation and a valid plan? Any feed back and advice is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
Re: CentOS 6.x and CentOS 7 upgrade path and testing PHP on current and future versions.
I use CentOS 6.5 with php 5.4 and 5.5 through webtatic repo. Below is the link http://webtatic.com/packages/php55/ On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 7:46 AM, George Toft geo...@georgetoft.com wrote: Hi Keith, I have solid word from Red Hat that each minor rev to their major releases are 100% binary compatible, and yes, they lock the version numbers for the entire release. If you look at the RH version numbers, you'll see something like this: 5.3.3-27.el6_5 Everything after the dash is Red Hat's patch. So even after they backport a fix, the version (5.3.3) remains the same, but the patch number increases. So in this case, this is the 27th Red Hat patch to PHP 5.3.3. I had fun with that when this high-falutin' Washington DC Beltway Bandit risk assessment team came rolling in to do an assessment. They grabbed the SSL banner (0.9.8 something) off some web servers and called an OMG emergency meeting with the system administrators and management about why we're running outdated versions of Apache and SSL. After they presented their findings they all looked at me, and I said flatly We don't use Apache here. We use IHS. (IBM HTTP Server - based on Apache, but with IBM secret sauce.) You could have heard a pin drop as they huddle and whisper and look silly. Yeah, that was fun. They hate me. They should have done their research and asked a couple questions first. Oh well. Then I had to research the SSL thing and show the Red Hat Errata demonstrating the old version of SSL was patched against known vulnerabilities. As far as Centos and RHEL, I don't know why you assume CentOS would be a year or two later than RHEL. This article indicates CentOS will be tightly coupled and more fluid than RHEL: http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-727812/ However, there's a firewall between RHEL and CentOS developers. The net effect is that CentOS will continue to lag a bit behind RHEL in releases. Even so, CentOS releases will be coming out on RHEL heels rather than weeks or months behind. I'm amused that you are trying to plan 6-10 years out in the IT field. /sarcasm Regards, George Toft On 5/6/2014 10:23 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I want to test some PHP code on future versions of PHP / MySql / MariaDB. I'm running CentOS 6.5 that installs php 5.3.3-27 which is at it's end of life. It is my understanding RHEL 6.x will always be using PHP 5.3. Is that correct? RHEL will be supported until Nov of 2020. That is a long time to be running a PHP version that is at end of life. I understand RH will back port any bug or security fixes to PHP 5.3 (which actually breaks the version numbering system). It is my understanding RHEL will be based on Fedora 19. I am downloading Fedora 19 now. I assume testing on Fedora 19 will get me in the ball park for RHEL 7. RHEL 7 will come with MariaDB as it's default DB. I assume I will not see RHEL 7 in the form of CentOS 7 for year or two? I assume there will be several more releases of RHEL 6 since it will be supported for over 6 more years. If I plan to stay with CentOS 6.x and if it will use the same MySql and PHP versions until end of life and if RHEL/CentOS 7 will be based on Fedora 19, I assume that is the only configurations I need to test on and I assume that will take me through 6 to 10 years. Is this a fair expectation and a valid plan? Any feed back and advice is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James *Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/pub/james-h-dugger/15/64b/74a/* --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CentOS 6.x and CentOS 7 upgrade path and testing PHP on current and future versions.
That's pretty cool!! Thanks!! Keith Smith On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 5:24 PM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.com wrote: I use CentOS 6.5 with php 5.4 and 5.5 through webtatic repo. Below is the link http://webtatic.com/packages/php55/ On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 7:46 AM, George Toft geo...@georgetoft.com wrote: Hi Keith, I have solid word from Red Hat that each minor rev to their major releases are 100% binary compatible, and yes, they lock the version numbers for the entire release. If you look at the RH version numbers, you'll see something like this: 5.3.3-27.el6_5 Everything after the dash is Red Hat's patch. So even after they backport a fix, the version (5.3.3) remains the same, but the patch number increases. So in this case, this is the 27th Red Hat patch to PHP 5.3.3. I had fun with that when this high-falutin' Washington DC Beltway Bandit risk assessment team came rolling in to do an assessment. They grabbed the SSL banner (0.9.8 something) off some web servers and called an OMG emergency meeting with the system administrators and management about why we're running outdated versions of Apache and SSL. After they presented their findings they all looked at me, and I said flatly We don't use Apache here. We use IHS. (IBM HTTP Server - based on Apache, but with IBM secret sauce.) You could have heard a pin drop as they huddle and whisper and look silly. Yeah, that was fun. They hate me. They should have done their research and asked a couple questions first. Oh well. Then I had to research the SSL thing and show the Red Hat Errata demonstrating the old version of SSL was patched against known vulnerabilities. As far as Centos and RHEL, I don't know why you assume CentOS would be a year or two later than RHEL. This article indicates CentOS will be tightly coupled and more fluid than RHEL: http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-727812/ However, there's a firewall between RHEL and CentOS developers. The net effect is that CentOS will continue to lag a bit behind RHEL in releases. Even so, CentOS releases will be coming out on RHEL heels rather than weeks or months behind. I'm amused that you are trying to plan 6-10 years out in the IT field. /sarcasm Regards, George Toft On 5/6/2014 10:23 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I want to test some PHP code on future versions of PHP / MySql / MariaDB. I'm running CentOS 6.5 that installs php 5.3.3-27 which is at it's end of life. It is my understanding RHEL 6.x will always be using PHP 5.3. Is that correct? RHEL will be supported until Nov of 2020. That is a long time to be running a PHP version that is at end of life. I understand RH will back port any bug or security fixes to PHP 5.3 (which actually breaks the version numbering system). It is my understanding RHEL will be based on Fedora 19. I am downloading Fedora 19 now. I assume testing on Fedora 19 will get me in the ball park for RHEL 7. RHEL 7 will come with MariaDB as it's default DB. I assume I will not see RHEL 7 in the form of CentOS 7 for year or two? I assume there will be several more releases of RHEL 6 since it will be supported for over 6 more years. If I plan to stay with CentOS 6.x and if it will use the same MySql and PHP versions until end of life and if RHEL/CentOS 7 will be based on Fedora 19, I assume that is the only configurations I need to test on and I assume that will take me through 6 to 10 years. Is this a fair expectation and a valid plan? Any feed back and advice is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James Linkedin --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
CentOS 6.x and CentOS 7 upgrade path and testing PHP on current and future versions.
Hi, I want to test some PHP code on future versions of PHP / MySql / MariaDB. I'm running CentOS 6.5 that installs php 5.3.3-27 which is at it's end of life. It is my understanding RHEL 6.x will always be using PHP 5.3. Is that correct? RHEL will be supported until Nov of 2020. That is a long time to be running a PHP version that is at end of life. I understand RH will back port any bug or security fixes to PHP 5.3 (which actually breaks the version numbering system). It is my understanding RHEL will be based on Fedora 19. I am downloading Fedora 19 now. I assume testing on Fedora 19 will get me in the ball park for RHEL 7. RHEL 7 will come with MariaDB as it's default DB. I assume I will not see RHEL 7 in the form of CentOS 7 for year or two? I assume there will be several more releases of RHEL 6 since it will be supported for over 6 more years. If I plan to stay with CentOS 6.x and if it will use the same MySql and PHP versions until end of life and if RHEL/CentOS 7 will be based on Fedora 19, I assume that is the only configurations I need to test on and I assume that will take me through 6 to 10 years. Is this a fair expectation and a valid plan? Any feed back and advice is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
I think people are trying to overcomplicate this issue asking about commands like `file` and `type`. There's only 2 things that matter for it to try and execute without an absolute or relative path: 1. Is it in a directory in my PATH? 2. Does is have the executable bit on? If you want to convince yourself of this try moving a binary file (maybe a jpeg or png) into something in your path and setting it's permissions to 755, you'll get something like: paul@galactica $ nsa_smiley.jpg bash: /usr/local/bin/nsa_smiley.jpg: cannot execute binary file It tries to execute the jpg file because the above criteria are met. Larry already showed he can run `bin/foo.sh` from within his home directory, so the execute bit *is* set, therefore the only possible explanation is that the particular shell he's using does not have `$HOME/bin` inside his path. How to add that to your shell on startup can be a loaded question. Using bash on Linux the answer is put it in your $HOME/.bashrc file. If you're using a different shell I'd start with the man page of that shell. Also note that there's various things that could make the shell you're using different that what's in `/etc/passwd` (which is the same as $SHELL) so the value of $0 is likely what you want. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: You only posted the output of which after sourcing .profile. Your non-login, interactive bash sessions are sourcing .bashrc. Export your path in there. On Feb 27, 2014 5:29 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: You guys need to read the thread which already shows the output of which and type. Let's just drop the whole subject as all we are getting is repeats of the same questions. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:00 PM, KevinO ke...@kevino.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:55 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: Sean, as stated before, I do have a bashrc and it is being adhered to by the system. There IS NO OUTPUT from killsol.sh. It is designed to kill a process if it exists and do so silently whether the process exists or not. Larry, Sean is asking for the output of the 'which' command, when it is passed the string 'killsol.sh' as an argument. You need to look at what he is asking you to type more closely. ie: $ which killsol.sh re: man which On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? A HTH -- KevinO --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Paul Mooring Operations Engineer Chef --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
What's the actual output of `which killsol.sh` when it's not working? It should say which: no killsol.sh in ($PATH). This will probably not have /home/larry/bin. man bash, see: INVOCATION to figure out where (and which) files need to be. Upstream bash does not include ~/bin in the path by default. Do you have a .bashrc? Have you modified it? I don't know what Ubuntu does to the environment, but a .bashrc should set you straight. Sean On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com mailto:kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.comwrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Sean, when it is not working (I have not run .profile manually), it prints killsol.sh: command not found as expected. When I have run .profile manually, it executes properly and the is no cli output as I designed. james, i get /bin/bash as my shell kitepilot, I get bash On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com
Re: $PATH question
So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? Also do you have a .bashrc? If not try renaming your .profile to .bashrc. On Feb 27, 2014 3:48 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, when it is not working (I have not run .profile manually), it prints killsol.sh: command not found as expected. When I have run .profile manually, it executes properly and the is no cli output as I designed. james, i get /bin/bash as my shell kitepilot, I get bash On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
Re: $PATH question
I usually put my junk in .bashrc and have .profile and .bash_profile run . ~/.bashrc except for desktop stuff like my ssh-agent verification, which I put in the interactive-only stuff. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? Also do you have a .bashrc? If not try renaming your .profile to .bashrc. On Feb 27, 2014 3:48 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, when it is not working (I have not run .profile manually), it prints killsol.sh: command not found as expected. When I have run .profile manually, it executes properly and the is no cli output as I designed. james, i get /bin/bash as my shell kitepilot, I get bash On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list
Re: $PATH question
Sean, as stated before, I do have a bashrc and it is being adhered to by the system. There IS NO OUTPUT from killsol.sh. It is designed to kill a process if it exists and do so silently whether the process exists or not. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? Also do you have a .bashrc? If not try renaming your .profile to .bashrc. On Feb 27, 2014 3:48 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, when it is not working (I have not run .profile manually), it prints killsol.sh: command not found as expected. When I have run .profile manually, it executes properly and the is no cli output as I designed. james, i get /bin/bash as my shell kitepilot, I get bash On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send
Re: $PATH question
There is a utility called WHICH and you can use it by typing WHICH KILLSOL.SH and it will give you some output. That is what I want! I don't care about killsol's output. Just type which killsol.sh! Does your bashrc set your path? Does your bashrc source any files in /etc? On Feb 27, 2014 3:55 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, as stated before, I do have a bashrc and it is being adhered to by the system. There IS NO OUTPUT from killsol.sh. It is designed to kill a process if it exists and do so silently whether the process exists or not. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? Also do you have a .bashrc? If not try renaming your .profile to .bashrc. On Feb 27, 2014 3:48 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, when it is not working (I have not run .profile manually), it prints killsol.sh: command not found as expected. When I have run .profile manually, it executes properly and the is no cli output as I designed. james, i get /bin/bash as my shell kitepilot, I get bash On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http
Re: $PATH question
You guys need to read the thread which already shows the output of which and type. Let's just drop the whole subject as all we are getting is repeats of the same questions. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:00 PM, KevinO ke...@kevino.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:55 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: Sean, as stated before, I do have a bashrc and it is being adhered to by the system. There IS NO OUTPUT from killsol.sh. It is designed to kill a process if it exists and do so silently whether the process exists or not. Larry, Sean is asking for the output of the 'which' command, when it is passed the string 'killsol.sh' as an argument. You need to look at what he is asking you to type more closely. ie: $ which killsol.sh re: man which On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? A HTH -- KevinO --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
You only posted the output of which after sourcing .profile. Your non-login, interactive bash sessions are sourcing .bashrc. Export your path in there. On Feb 27, 2014 5:29 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: You guys need to read the thread which already shows the output of which and type. Let's just drop the whole subject as all we are getting is repeats of the same questions. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:00 PM, KevinO ke...@kevino.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:55 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: Sean, as stated before, I do have a bashrc and it is being adhered to by the system. There IS NO OUTPUT from killsol.sh. It is designed to kill a process if it exists and do so silently whether the process exists or not. Larry, Sean is asking for the output of the 'which' command, when it is passed the string 'killsol.sh' as an argument. You need to look at what he is asking you to type more closely. ie: $ which killsol.sh re: man which On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? A HTH -- KevinO --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
$PATH question
I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Did you export? On Feb 26, 2014 8:18 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
I don't remember as I did it long ago. but when I type echo $PATH, what I get is: /home/larry/bin:/opt/OpenPrinting-Gutenprint/sbin:/opt/OpenPrinting-Gutenprint/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games does that mean I did? or if I need to export it, when and how often is it needed? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Carl Parrish cparr...@carlparrish.comwrote: Did you export? On Feb 26, 2014 8:18 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
The shell file IS marked executable. I do not have a ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login I DO have a ~/.profile but it appears not to have run at login because if I do run it manually in a command shell, suddenly the path to my ~/bin does work and the foo.sh works properly. Still puzzled. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.comwrote: I would guess the file is not executable. chmod +x ~/bin/foo.sh On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 09:18:31 PM Dazed_75 wrote: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
On Sun 16 June 2013 20:40:51 Matt Graham wrote: ...I'm not sure why the OT thing happened, but I don't have a ~/.kde/env/ dir here. I've been using KDE since KDE 1 in 1999. On my Gentoo install, at least, the search path for the minicli is apparently taken from $PATH, which is set in ~/.bashrc for me, but note that YMMV on all that. I have a ~/.kde/env because I'm using zsh as my shell and didn't bother setting that in /etc/passwd but just in Konsole's default profile, so startkde still runs under /usr/bin/bash. And yes, Hans is right about how this ended up OT, though it's now back on-T? -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
Hans, On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:14 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 16. Jun, 2013 schwätzte Nathan England so: moin moin, This is seriously rediculous! Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? Was this an accident? Was this intentional? Ryan set OT for his response to your question about CotS. That was a good move by him as that part of the thread had wandered off-topic. KDE is obviously on topic, but the response wasn't about KDE. Was it just to test the new OT: fliters? Dunno. Ryan will have to answer that question. Now my dilemma, do I fix that tag syntax to be TO: since the thread wandered off to off-topic or leave the tag as is since it's wandered back to what's on topic or what isn't. Or maybe I'll just translate OT: to German and test localization ;-). Or I could just not send my response and then you'll never know what I did. Well said! ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Lie detector eyeglasses perfected: Civilization collapses. # -- Richard Powers snip -- respectfully trimmed per Mailing List Etiquite -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com http://it-clowns.com/d/ Chief Clown --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
Am 14. Jun, 2013 schwätzte Ryan Rix so:
On Wed 12 June 2013 13:05:49 der.hans wrote:
How do I adjust the search path used by the command pop up? It's missing
an important directory for me.
{0}% cat ~/.kde/env/path.sh
export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin/
export KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local
DING, DING, DING! We have a winner!
OK, I did have to restart KDE for it to take effect, which is what I was
expecting.
Thanks for the help.
Is there a way to get KDE to reprocess that dir without restarting?
I've now found a bunch of documentation on it, but I don't see anything
saying what shell is being used or what all you can do.
It's shell script being sourced, so anything you could normally do in a
script?
Which shell is used? Default shell for the user? Default shell for the
system? Generally hard-coded to bash?
If all of this is documented somewhere, please go ahead and just point me
there.
ciao,
der.hans
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Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
Am 12. Jun, 2013 schwätzte Nathan England so: moin moin Nathan, On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 01:05:49 PM der.hans wrote: moin moin, I've tried a couple of things and am probably just missing something obvious, but ... How do I adjust the search path used by the command pop up? It's missing an important directory for me. Same question for GNOME and Unity actually :). ciao, der.hans Not sure what you are trying to do specifically, I will guess you have a folder in your home dir called /home/hans/bin and you want to execute something in there that is not in your standard PATH ? Something along those lines. I think you can edit the .profile and adjust your path to KDE Hadn't tried just .profile. Hmm, that should have gotten my changes in other rc files on my system. If you hit altF2 you should see an envelope for options, make sure Files and Locations are checked then it should search everywhere. I have a wrench rather than an envelope and everything is turned on. Need to review that :). It could also be that you have akonadi turned off or not searching your files and folders? Typically with SSD's you woud turn akonadi off, but sadly that disables a lot of functionality in KDE. ** it appears via a kde bug report that the path should work from .bashrc and .zsh, maybe you need to adjust your path in the /etc/profile instead of in your home dir? Only want the changes in my personal account. I now have that via ~/.kde/env/*.sh. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Communications without intelligence is noise; # Intelligence without communications is irrelevant. # Gen. Alfred. M. Gray, USMC--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
This is seriously rediculous! Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? Was this an accident? Was this intentional? Was it just to test the new OT: fliters? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
We're only allowed to talk about the kernel itself here now... On Sun 16 June 2013 18:21:16 Nathan England wrote: This is seriously rediculous! Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? Was this an accident? Was this intentional? Was it just to test the new OT: fliters? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
how about if it is related to open source technology it is on topic? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si wrote: We're only allowed to talk about the kernel itself here now... On Sun 16 June 2013 18:21:16 Nathan England wrote: This is seriously rediculous! Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? Was this an accident? Was this intentional? Was it just to test the new OT: fliters? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
On Sunday, June 16, 2013 08:05:53 PM Ryan Rix wrote: We're only allowed to talk about the kernel itself here now... On Sun 16 June 2013 18:21:16 Nathan England wrote: This is seriously rediculous! Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? Was this an accident? Was this intentional? Was it just to test the new OT: fliters? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss That about sums it up! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
From: Nathan England Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? SARCASM KDE has become an undesktop-environment. All doubleplusgood citizens are running GNOME or Unity according to The Computer. You trust The Computer, don't you? /SARCASM ...I'm not sure why the OT thing happened, but I don't have a ~/.kde/env/ dir here. I've been using KDE since KDE 1 in 1999. On my Gentoo install, at least, the search path for the minicli is apparently taken from $PATH, which is set in ~/.bashrc for me, but note that YMMV on all that. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
Am 16. Jun, 2013 schwätzte Nathan England so: moin moin, This is seriously rediculous! Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? Was this an accident? Was this intentional? Ryan set OT for his response to your question about CotS. That was a good move by him as that part of the thread had wandered off-topic. KDE is obviously on topic, but the response wasn't about KDE. Was it just to test the new OT: fliters? Dunno. Ryan will have to answer that question. Now my dilemma, do I fix that tag syntax to be TO: since the thread wandered off to off-topic or leave the tag as is since it's wandered back to what's on topic or what isn't. Or maybe I'll just translate OT: to German and test localization ;-). Or I could just not send my response and then you'll never know what I did. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Lie detector eyeglasses perfected: Civilization collapses. # -- Richard Powers--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
On Sunday, June 16, 2013 09:14:01 PM der.hans wrote: This is seriously rediculous! Why did a question about KDE become Off Topic? Was this an accident? Was this intentional? Now my dilemma, do I fix that tag syntax to be TO: since the thread wandered off to off-topic or leave the tag as is since it's wandered back to what's on topic or what isn't. Or maybe I'll just translate OT: to German and test localization ;-). Wow. Thank you der.hans, you so elloquenty proved my point! lol --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
I noticed you added OT to this subject just after I sent the message
about how to filter out off topic messages.
If you were trying to send a test message with an off topic trigger, it
requires the colon in order to work. (OT:)
Brian Cluff
On 06/15/2013 11:25 AM, Ryan Rix wrote:
One doesn't gain slack by following the rules of society, Nathan :)
On Fri 14 June 2013 14:28:44 Nathan England wrote:
Hey, aren't you a fedora guy? What's with the Head of the Church of the
Subgenius? Isn't that a Slackware thing? Have you crossed over into the
light?
On Friday, June 14, 2013 02:13:34 PM Ryan Rix wrote:
On Wed 12 June 2013 13:05:49 der.hans wrote:
moin moin,
I've tried a couple of things and am probably just missing something
obvious, but ...
How do I adjust the search path used by the command pop up? It's missing
an important directory for me.
Same question for GNOME and Unity actually :).
ciao,
der.hans
~
{0}% cat ~/.kde/env/path.sh
export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin/
export KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local
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Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
Hans, On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:05 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, I've tried a couple of things and am probably just missing something obvious, but ... How do I adjust the search path used by the command pop up? It's missing an important directory for me. Same question for GNOME and Unity actually :). I believe that older KDE inherits the bash $PATH variable. In Ubuntu 10.10 and later, you use http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Krunner ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Human kind cannot bear very much reality. #-- T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets: Burnt Norton --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com http://it-clowns.com/d/ Chief Clown --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 01:05:49 PM der.hans wrote: moin moin, I've tried a couple of things and am probably just missing something obvious, but ... How do I adjust the search path used by the command pop up? It's missing an important directory for me. Same question for GNOME and Unity actually :). ciao, der.hans Not sure what you are trying to do specifically, I will guess you have a folder in your home dir called /home/hans/bin and you want to execute something in there that is not in your standard PATH ? I think you can edit the .profile and adjust your path to KDE If you hit altF2 you should see an envelope for options, make sure Files and Locations are checked then it should search everywhere. It could also be that you have akonadi turned off or not searching your files and folders? Typically with SSD's you woud turn akonadi off, but sadly that disables a lot of functionality in KDE. ** it appears via a kde bug report that the path should work from .bashrc and .zsh, maybe you need to adjust your path in the /etc/profile instead of in your home dir? Nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
On 06/12/2013 01:15 PM, Nathan England wrote: It could also be that you have akonadi turned off or not searching your files and folders? Typically with SSD's you woud turn akonadi off, but sadly that disables a lot of functionality in KDE. If you do have nepomuk (akonadi is for connectors to various PIM) turned off because it ate your system alive in the past, and you are using KDE 4.10, go ahead and turn it back on. With KDE 4.10 it has been totally rewritten and is very very light on the system now. You'll also want to click the little wrench on the prompt (krunner) that pops up with alt+f2 and make sure nepomuk is enabled. Brian Cluff --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE alt-F2 PATH
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 02:43:12 PM Brian Cluff wrote: If you do have nepomuk (akonadi is for connectors to various PIM) turned off because it ate your system alive in the past, and you are using KDE 4.10, go ahead and turn it back on. With KDE 4.10 it has been totally rewritten and is very very light on the system now. Hey that is what I meant! lol Thanks for the correction Brian. Nepomuk. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
