Re: youtube-dl

2012-11-14 Thread Dazed_75
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com> wrote:

> First, unless you update your packages list (if using synaptic its ‘reload
> db’ or something) you will NEVER know if a newer package is out there.
>
Done, frequently (including this morning).

> 
>
> ** **
>
> Second, I use those firefox (and mumble mumble (seamonkey? And other))
> browser plugins.  DTA (down them all), ant, and something else.  They’ve
> worked fine for me..
>
No comment as I was simply answering Michael's question.

> 
>
> ** **
>
> Third, 2006 seems REALLY old for something like this.  Indeed, if you go
> to http://rg3.github.com/youtube-dl/ you’ll see in the download section
> 2012.10.09. (which is also the only version, which seems mildly
> incongruous. Of course, the thing you download seems to be a binary file
> interpreted by python, which launches me into a ‘huh?  Gotta go figure THAT
> out sometime’ mode ;-)
>
Don't understand the 2006 reference other than as un un-updated reference
in a text file.  The package downloaded from the ubuntu repositories we are
all reporting as stating itself in the code and file names to be from
2012.02.27.

And finally, the file being executed is python code, not compiled.  Sounds
like you are running something later which is compiled python which has not
been accepted to the repositories yet.  Though it may be what you get from
whatever package you get/compile from git.  And, yes, that may well be the
real answer to the different experiences here.

> 
>
> ** **
>
> Rusty
>
> ** **
>
> * *
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> ** **
>
> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Dazed_75
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:04 PM
>
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: youtube-dl
>
> ** **
>
> Mine shows the same copyright test although the package I got this am from
> the ubuntu software center installed
> /var/cache/apt/archives/youtube-dl_2012.02.27-1_all.deb.  I get the same
> result as Michael although I can certainly play the video directly from the
> link included in the command line.
>
> Mike, most programs have an option to display the version.  According to
> the youtube-dl man page it should be -v but it does not work.  It reacts as
> if you have provided wrong or insufficient parameters.  I would say maybe
> look for a different package to download youtube videos which have better
> or more uptodate maintenance.  Another option is to volunteer to help with
> the maintenance and/or documentation.
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:*
> ***
>
> i just tried apt-get and it says my version is current. As for the version
> I'm not sure how to look that up. I did 'locate youtube-dl' and the only
> thing that might tell me is:
>
> ** **
>
>/usr/share/doc/youtube-dl/copyright
>
> ** **
>
> This is what that file says:
>
> ** **
>
> This package was debianized by Robert S. Edmonds  on**
> **
>
> Sun,  3 Sep 2006 19:43:27 -0400.
>
> ** **
>
> The current maintainer is Rogério Brito .
>
> ** **
>
> It was downloaded from:
>
> ** **
>
> http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2010.04.04/youtube-dl
>
> ** **
>
> Authors:
>
> ** **
>
> * Ricardo Garcia Gonzalez: program core, YouTube.com InfoExtractor,***
> *
>
>   metacafe.com InfoExtractor and YouTube playlist InfoExtractor.
>
> * Danny Colligan: YouTube search InfoExtractor, ideas and patches.
>
> * Many other people contributing patches, code, ideas and kind
> messages.
>
>   Too many to be listed here. You know who you are. Thank you very
> much.
>
> ** **
>
> Copyright © 2006-2010 Ricardo Garcia Gonzalez
>
> ** **
>
> License:
>
> ** **
>
> The program is in the Public Domain.
>
> ** **
>
> The packaging is licensed under the GNU GPL License:
>
> ** **
>
> Copyright © 2006, Robert S. Edmonds .
>
> Copyright © 2009-2012, Rogério Brito .
>
> ** **
>
> For the text of the GPL License in a Debian system, please see
>
> `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2'.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Carruth, Rusty <
> rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com> wrote:
>
> Mike - what version of youtube-dl are you using?
>
> Lisa - same question.
>
>  
>
> That’s my guess as to why it works for her and

Re: youtube-dl

2012-11-14 Thread Dazed_75
from the NEW item in the package:

youtube-dl (2010.07.22-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  The upstream author has removed support for the -b ("best format") and
  the -d ("high def") command line options.

  The behavior now is to download the best quality for each video.
  If you experience a problem with youtube-dl downloading videos that are
  too large, you should consider using the --max-quality option to limit
  which format to use.

  The list of formats (in decreasing quality) can be found with:

  grep "available_formats =" /usr/bin/youtube-dl

 -- Rogério Brito   Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:07:03 -0300

(END)
 so the error MAY be from too large a file for the coded transfer
protocol.  I tried using that option to download as WebM and got the same
result.

Larry


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:

> Mine shows the same copyright test although the package I got this am from
> the ubuntu software center installed
> /var/cache/apt/archives/youtube-dl_2012.02.27-1_all.deb.  I get the same
> result as Michael although I can certainly play the video directly from the
> link included in the command line.
>
> Mike, most programs have an option to display the version.  According to
> the youtube-dl man page it should be -v but it does not work.  It reacts as
> if you have provided wrong or insufficient parameters.  I would say maybe
> look for a different package to download youtube videos which have better
> or more uptodate maintenance.  Another option is to volunteer to help with
> the maintenance and/or documentation.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> i just tried apt-get and it says my version is current. As for the
>> version I'm not sure how to look that up. I did 'locate youtube-dl' and the
>> only thing that might tell me is:
>>
>>/usr/share/doc/youtube-dl/copyright
>>
>> This is what that file says:
>>
>> This package was debianized by Robert S. Edmonds  on
>> Sun,  3 Sep 2006 19:43:27 -0400.
>>
>> The current maintainer is Rogério Brito .
>>
>> It was downloaded from:
>>
>> http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2010.04.04/youtube-dl
>>
>> Authors:
>>
>> * Ricardo Garcia Gonzalez: program core, YouTube.com InfoExtractor,
>>   metacafe.com InfoExtractor and YouTube playlist InfoExtractor.
>> * Danny Colligan: YouTube search InfoExtractor, ideas and patches.
>> * Many other people contributing patches, code, ideas and kind
>> messages.
>>   Too many to be listed here. You know who you are. Thank you very
>> much.
>>
>> Copyright © 2006-2010 Ricardo Garcia Gonzalez
>>
>> License:
>>
>> The program is in the Public Domain.
>>
>> The packaging is licensed under the GNU GPL License:
>>
>> Copyright © 2006, Robert S. Edmonds .
>> Copyright © 2009-2012, Rogério Brito .
>>
>> For the text of the GPL License in a Debian system, please see
>> `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2'.
>>
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Carruth, Rusty <
>> rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike - what version of youtube-dl are you using?
>>>
>>> Lisa - same question.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> That’s my guess as to why it works for her and not for you.  I’m
>>> assuming neither of you have anything ‘weird’ in your network setup…
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
>>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Michael
>>> Havens
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:25 AM
>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>> *Subject:* Re: youtube-dl
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Yeah I figured you guys would like it. It is the full uncut version
>>> too!
>>>
>>> regardless... why can't i download it?
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Lisa Kachold 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great channel!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Michael Havens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is wrong with this command?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>>youtube-dl -o MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail.flv "
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOfI88NKRzY"
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>&g

Re: youtube-dl

2012-11-14 Thread Dazed_75
Mine shows the same copyright test although the package I got this am from
the ubuntu software center installed
/var/cache/apt/archives/youtube-dl_2012.02.27-1_all.deb.  I get the same
result as Michael although I can certainly play the video directly from the
link included in the command line.

Mike, most programs have an option to display the version.  According to
the youtube-dl man page it should be -v but it does not work.  It reacts as
if you have provided wrong or insufficient parameters.  I would say maybe
look for a different package to download youtube videos which have better
or more uptodate maintenance.  Another option is to volunteer to help with
the maintenance and/or documentation.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> i just tried apt-get and it says my version is current. As for the version
> I'm not sure how to look that up. I did 'locate youtube-dl' and the only
> thing that might tell me is:
>
>/usr/share/doc/youtube-dl/copyright
>
> This is what that file says:
>
> This package was debianized by Robert S. Edmonds  on
> Sun,  3 Sep 2006 19:43:27 -0400.
>
> The current maintainer is Rogério Brito .
>
> It was downloaded from:
>
> http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2010.04.04/youtube-dl
>
> Authors:
>
> * Ricardo Garcia Gonzalez: program core, YouTube.com InfoExtractor,
>   metacafe.com InfoExtractor and YouTube playlist InfoExtractor.
> * Danny Colligan: YouTube search InfoExtractor, ideas and patches.
> * Many other people contributing patches, code, ideas and kind
> messages.
>   Too many to be listed here. You know who you are. Thank you very
> much.
>
> Copyright © 2006-2010 Ricardo Garcia Gonzalez
>
> License:
>
> The program is in the Public Domain.
>
> The packaging is licensed under the GNU GPL License:
>
> Copyright © 2006, Robert S. Edmonds .
> Copyright © 2009-2012, Rogério Brito .
>
> For the text of the GPL License in a Debian system, please see
> `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2'.
>
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Carruth, Rusty <
> rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com> wrote:
>
>> Mike - what version of youtube-dl are you using?
>>
>> Lisa - same question.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> That’s my guess as to why it works for her and not for you.  I’m assuming
>> neither of you have anything ‘weird’ in your network setup…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Michael
>> Havens
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:25 AM
>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: youtube-dl
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Yeah I figured you guys would like it. It is the full uncut version
>> too!
>>
>> regardless... why can't i download it?
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Lisa Kachold 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Great channel!
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>> 
>>
>> What is wrong with this command?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>youtube-dl -o MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail.flv "
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOfI88NKRzY"
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> It keeps telling me:
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>[youtube] Setting language
>>
>>[youtube] eOfI88NKRzY: Downloading video webpage
>>
>>[youtube] eOfI88NKRzY: Downloading video info webpage
>>
>>[youtube] eOfI88NKRzY: Extracting video information
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>ERROR: unable to download video
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I've never had problems downloading videos before. I've tried getting rid
>> of the '-o ...', getting rid of the quotes, getting rid of the space  after
>> the '-o', but nothing works. What's wrong?
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Works for me! 
>>
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Re: HP locking up

2012-11-09 Thread Dazed_75
Open the box again and check the cpu heat sink.  If it is not getting very
warm, it could be loose or poorly sealed with thermal material.  That could
make for intermittent heating problems.  You might have to remove and
remount the heat sink.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Derek Trotter wrote:

>
> On 11/09/2012 12:19 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:
>
> I don't see anything to give me any definite clues.  But here are a couple
> of questions that might yield a clue:
>
>1. Has this machine sat unused and not plugged in for any length of
>time (could be the CMOS battery is dead/dieing)?
>
>  I bought it in January and used it every day since then.  When it was a
> windows box, I would have it running for several days at a time doing my
> usenet harvesting.
>
>
>
>
>1. When the machine is locked up, can you do Ctrl-Alt-F2 and get a
>console (Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to the GUI)?
>
>  I can't do anything with it.  I can't get to a console.  I can ping it
> when it's working normally, but when it locks up it doesn't respond to
> pings or anything else.  When it locks up it stops everything.  If I'm
> watching a movie on it when it locks up, the audio stops and the last frame
> is on the screen until I push the power button long enough for the machine
> to turn it off.   I have it and the other box plugged into a netgear
> router.  There's a light on the front of it for each computer that's
> plugged into it.  When I download using this machine, it's light on the
> router blinks.  When the machine locks up, it's light stops blinking.
>
> Also I opened it up and checked for dust bunnies.  There was a little
> dust, but not enough to cause any problems.  Today I opened a terminal and
> sensors -f.  I get results that vary between 40 and 60F.  I do believe I'm
> not getting an accurate reading because it's not that old in here.  Also I
> shut the machine down and checked the heat sink for the processor.  It
> wasn't even warm.
>
>
>
>1. What, exactly, do you mean by "locking up"?  More specifically, can
>you be sure that the machine is locked up or could it just be the display?
>One way to test that theory is to ssh into the machine from another machine
>and run some application that does updates like top or htop, or a looping
>script displaying the time every few seconds.  If the machine seems to lock
>up but the remote machine still shows ongoing changes, then it is not the
>whole machine locking up.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Derek Trotter 
> wrote:
>
>> I have an HP Pavillion p6-2003w pc.  This tinyurl
>> http://tinyurl.com/b36tanr takes you to a page at HP that will give you
>> details about what's in it if the following isn't enough.
>>
>> Motherboard
>> AAHD2-HY (Holly)
>>
>> Processor
>> AMD E2 3200 Processor
>>
>> Memory 4 GB
>> Speed: PC3-10600 MB/sec
>> Type: DDR3-1333
>>
>> Video graphics HD 6370D
>>
>> Sound/Audio Integrated Realtek ALC 656 Audio
>>
>> Networking
>> LAN: 1000-Base-T
>> Interface: PCI Express x1
>> Technology: Realtek RTL8111E gigabit ethernet controller
>>
>> Hard drive 1 TB
>>
>> CD/DVD disc drive SuperMulti DVD Burner drive
>>
>> Memory card reader 6-in-1 multimedia card reader
>>
>> Power Supply Internal 300W (100V-240V)
>>
>>
>> The problem is that it's been freezing at random.  It was really bad on
>> Kubuntu 12.0.4 64 bit.  It was like the bad old windows 3.1 days. I never
>> knew when it would lock up.  Sometimes it would run all night without any
>> problems.  Other times it would lock up a few minutes after I rebooted it
>> the last time it locked up.  Sometimes the image on the monitor would just
>> freeze.  Other times the monitor would go to a background of either blue or
>> gray with thin vertical lilnes.  I upgraded to Kubuntu 12.10 64 bit and it
>> was a little more reliable.  Once it locked up and when I rebooted it, the
>> sound card no longer worked.
>>
>> Is there some bug with this machine? Is there some problem with ubuntu?
>>  I'm wondering because last year my other computer behaved similarly. I
>> posted the problem to this list and someone told me my problem was a
>> defective nvidia card.  They made a bunch of chips that didn't get along
>> with something in windows versions after xp and versions of ubuntu after, I
>> believe 8.04.
>>
>> Any help will be apreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> 

Re: How to change list colors?

2012-11-07 Thread Dazed_75
In Ubuntu dircolors -p makes the list somewhat more readable albeit long.


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM, James Mcphee  wrote:

> Which distro are you using?  ubuntu has the "dircolors" command that will
> output your color settings, and then you override them by setting LS_COLORS
> in your .bash_profile (or .bashrc in some cases).
>
> Redhat derivatives have /etc/DIR_COLORS that you can copy to ~/.dir_colors
> and let you set them there.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM,  wrote:
>
>> How can I change the default colors for listing files from the command
>> line?
>> The lime green against my terminal beige background is very hard to see.
>>
>> Example here: http://www.upquick.com/temp/listcolors.jpg
>>
>> And why are some colored words off center (below the baseline)?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: mass rename help

2012-10-30 Thread Dazed_75
Thanks, Brian!  This one worked (though my '=' should have been a '-').  I
did not try the second option you gave.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Brian Cluff  wrote:

> Install the package mmv and then do:
>
> mmv "meetthegimp=mobile*.mp4" "meetthegimp#1-mobile.mp4"
>
> That should take care of it don't forget the quotes.  It needs them
> even if there aren't any spaces and such.
>
> Brian Cluff
>
>
> On 10/29/2012 06:21 PM, Dazed_75 wrote:
>
>> I have a bunch of files named "meetthegimp=mobile999.mp4" where 999 is
>> any 3 digit number.  I want to rename them all to be
>> "meetthegimp999-mobile.mp4".
>>
>> Can anyone give me a mv or rename command to do them all in one fell
>> swoop?  I could probably figure one out but it would take more time due
>> to having to make test cases and doing trial and error than just asking
>> you folks.  Thanks in advance.
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OT Anyone else remember this?

2012-10-18 Thread Dazed_75
I sure remember it.  No chance I could have afforded it back then, but I
did want one.

http://www.howtogeek.com/126846/retro-ad-10-mb-hard-drive-for-3398-image


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Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid

2012-10-18 Thread Dazed_75
You said you were installing ubuntu to the independent drive (and one of
the messages indicates sdb), but where is it putting GRUB?  You may need to
use the advanced option to place GRUB on that same drive.  Sorry, I don't
know what screen the option is on during install but it used to be in the
lower right corner.  Seems like it would be on the screen where you accept
all the changes before actually proceeding with the install.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right
> now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is
> going on.
>
> I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard raid chipset
> (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those drives the
> drive i wish to install to is actually a SATA connected single drive
> but i am having the worst time getting Ubuntu 12.04 to even finish its
> boot cycle. and im not getting allot of feedback.
>
> The errors i am getting are ata_id[336]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for
> '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument
> - this is with all Raid disks disconnected and raid turned off in
> bios. just a single SATA HDD
>
> I get one of the two following errors if i have raid disks attached
>
> A similar entry as above comes up or i get
> udevd[167] inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed: No Such file or
> directory
>
> the most promising option i have so far is booting with nodmraid but
> it seems to just hang and go no place after detecting my CDrom devices
>
> This is rather perplexing overall.
>
> Ideally i would like my 2 onboard raids to be connected running
> windows and then let linux run amok on my extra sata hdd but it either
> is really pissed off in a way i cannot figure out or it really does
> not like that port.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts?
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Re: ssh -Y question [RESOLVED]

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
Fixed by deleting the files in ~/.dbus/session-bus/ of fogtest.  Thanks
everyone!

Makes me wonder if those files (if any) shouldn’t be deleted automatically
on startup.  And what other cleanup should maybe be standard.
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Re: ufw rules

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
Thanks Lisa, having the commands to add and the rules to add is very
helpful.  A couple of clarifications will help me as well.

sudo ufw deny from 192.168.0.1 to any port 22
## assuming 192.168.0.1 was my router/gateway, the above rule would
block any access for outside the LAN, yes?

sudo ufw deny from 192.168.0.7 to any port 22
## I believe you added this as just an example of blocking a single
address on the LAN

sudo ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/24 to any port 22
## Clear but I have always wondered if the 0/24 just means the first
24 bits must match and the last 8 can be anything?

Also:
1) If I normally plugged this machine into192.168.1.x,  192.168.2.x and
198.162.3.x LANs would I just repeat the 3 rules with changed numbers? Or
is there an easier way?
2) Does UFW allow environment variable substitution in its rules?  I
already set such variables as part of the PXE server portability.
3) Do both TCP and UDP need blocking.allow for ssh on port 22?


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Hi Larry!
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me how to make a ufw (uncomplicated firewall) rule to
>> allow incoming ssh but only from the LAN or even a specific LAN.  Not sure
>> I need to specify an alternate port, but that would be good to know as well.
>
>
> UFW  rule:
>
> *advanced allow example for allowing access from an ip address range
> 10.120.0.1 - 10.120.0.255 to port 22*
> sudo ufw allow from 10.0.0.0/24 to any port 22
>
> you want to block access to port 22 from 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.7 but
> allow all other 192.168.0.x IPs to have access to port 22
>
>  Code:
>
> sudo ufw deny from 192.168.0.1 to any port 22
> sudo ufw deny from 192.168.0.7 to any port 22
> sudo ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/24 to any port 22
>
> if you do the allow statement before either of the deny statements it will
> be matched first and the deny will not be evaluated.
>
> you can check this by checking ufw status
>  Code:
>
> sudo ufw status
> To Action  From
> -- --  
> 22:tcp DENY192.168.0.1
> 22:udp DENY192.168.0.1
> 22:tcp DENY192.168.0.7
> 22:udp DENY192.168.0.7
> 22:tcp ALLOW   192.168.0.0/24
> 22:udp <http://192.168.0.0/2422:udp> ALLOW   
> 192.168.0.0/24
>
> the allow is at the bottom and will be the last command evaluated if it
> appeared above the deny rules the deny rules would not be evaluated.
>
> Reference:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823741
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Re: ssh -Y question

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Hi Larry!recipient list and message body
>
> Well,
>
> It could be a variety of things:
>
> 1.   dbus issues: Resolve by deleting ~/.dbus*
>

on fogtest I assume?

in ~/.dbus are
.
└── session-bus
├── 1e1766b8883716105166c2a04daf2d37-0
└── 1e1766b8883716105166c2a04daf2d37-10
or
larry@fogtest:~/.dbus$ ll session-bus/
total 8
-rw-r--r-- 1 larry larry 467 2012-10-14 10:39
1e1766b8883716105166c2a04daf2d37-0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  root  476 2011-08-18 18:55
1e1766b8883716105166c2a04daf2d37-10




> 2.   Permissions: Press alt + F2 and type gksu gedit to verify or run via
> root
>
that does not work inside the ssh -Y session as it just brings up the Dash
in the local Unity system just as Ctr;-Alt-F1-6 open a console on the local
system.  Other Alt-Function keys in the ssh 0Y session print something like
escape sequences in the terminal.


> 3.   Issues with file corruption: sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot
>
>
> Nope, did the fsck route yesterday.

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Re: ssh -Y question

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
Sorry Hans, I doid not see the further questions.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:25 PM, der.hans  wrote:

> Am 16. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Dazed_75 so:
>


> ls -ld /tmp/dbus-*
>
No such file

larry@fogtest:~$ ls -al /tmp/
> total 32
> drwxrwxrwt  7 root  root  4096 2012-10-16 15:28 ./
> drwxr-xr-x 24 root  root  4096 2012-04-27 00:13 ../
> drwx--  2 gdm   gdm   4096 2012-10-14 10:53 .esd-114/
> srwxr-xr-x  1 larry larry0 2012-10-16 15:28 gedit.larry.1810654947=
> drwxrwxrwt  2 root  root  4096 2012-10-14 10:53 .ICE-unix/
> drwx--  2 gdm   gdm   4096 2012-10-14 11:23 orbit-gdm/
> drwx--  2 gdm   gdm   4096 2012-10-14 10:53 pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n/
> -r--r--r--  1 root  root11 2012-10-14 10:53 .X0-lock
> drwxrwxrwt  2 root  root  4096 2012-10-14 10:53 .X11-unix/
> larry@fogtest:~$
>



>
> Wonder if it's trying to use the wrong socket. There might be a stale
> socket since you're running headless, but boot should fix that by cleaning
> out /tmp. Does fogtest get shutdown or do you hibernate it?
>

fogtest is always shut down when I move it or just want to not use it for a
lengthy time.


>
> The obvious solution is you need to start using vim :).
>

Not an option.  :)

>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
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Re: ssh -Y question

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:25 PM, der.hans  wrote:

> Am 16. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Dazed_75 so:
>
>  On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM, der.hans  wrote:
>>
>>  Am 16. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Dazed_75 so:
>>>
>>>
>>>  I used to regularly do ssh -X user@machine or ssh -Y user@machine so I
>>>
>>>> could run a graphical program on the remote machine and have the display
>>>> on
>>>> the machine I was sitting at.  In fact, I used to do this at
>>>> installfests
>>>> from my laptop (lapdog2) to the headless PXE server (fogtest) right next
>>>> to
>>>> me.  That stopped working months ago and I have not been able to figure
>>>> out
>>>> why or how to fix it.  Here is a sample of what I get:
>>>>
>>>> larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y fogtest
>>>>
>>>>  Linux fogtest 2.6.32-41-generic-pae #91-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 13 12:00:09
>>>>> UTC
>>>>> 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  echo $DISPLAY
>>>
>>> Do you get something like localhost:10.0?
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, both on the machine that works (sunfish) and the one that does not
>> (fogtest).
>>
>
> OK, we might have to debug the gconf stuff :).
>
> Before that, try starting a non-GNOME app such as xterm or xeyes.
>

Aaah, both work on both machines.  Not sure what to do from there.


>
>   Last login: Mon Oct 15 16:37:44 2012 from sunfish.thiel.org
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  larry@fogtest:~$ gedit
>>>>> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible
>>>>> causes
>>>>> are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have
>>>>> stale
>>>>> NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/
>>>>> gconf/ <http://projects.gnome.org/**gconf/><http://projects.gnome.**
>>>>> org/gconf/ <http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/>>for
>>>>>
>>>>> information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed
>>>>> to
>>>>> connect to socket /tmp/dbus-sjFuIo1Vhr: Connection refused)
>>>>>
>>>>
> ls -ld /tmp/dbus-*
>
> Wonder if it's trying to use the wrong socket. There might be a stale
> socket since you're running headless, but boot should fix that by cleaning
> out /tmp. Does fogtest get shutdown or do you hibernate it?
>
> The obvious solution is you need to start using vim :).
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
>  ^C
>>>>> larry@fogtest:~$
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  As you can see, the ssh connection is fine but using a graphical
>>>> program
>>>> like gedit does not. So I was making another attempt today (different
>>>> target) and it worked:
>>>>
>>>> larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y sunfish
>>>>
>>>>  Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-31-generic x86_64)
>>>>>
>>>>>  * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> 22 packages can be updated.
>>>>> 12 updates are security updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last login: Tue Aug 28 21:27:53 2012 from hammerhead.thiel.org
>>>>> larry@sunfish:~$ gedit
>>>>> larry@sunfish:~$
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anyone know where to look or how to fix fogtest?
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Re: ssh -Y question

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM, der.hans  wrote:

> Am 16. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Dazed_75 so:
>
>
>  I used to regularly do ssh -X user@machine or ssh -Y user@machine so I
>> could run a graphical program on the remote machine and have the display
>> on
>> the machine I was sitting at.  In fact, I used to do this at installfests
>> from my laptop (lapdog2) to the headless PXE server (fogtest) right next
>> to
>> me.  That stopped working months ago and I have not been able to figure
>> out
>> why or how to fix it.  Here is a sample of what I get:
>>
>> larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y fogtest
>>
>>> Linux fogtest 2.6.32-41-generic-pae #91-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 13 12:00:09
>>> UTC
>>> 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
>>> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
> echo $DISPLAY
>
> Do you get something like localhost:10.0?
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans


Yes, both on the machine that works (sunfish) and the one that does not
(fogtest).


>
>  Last login: Mon Oct 15 16:37:44 2012 from sunfish.thiel.org
>>
>>> larry@fogtest:~$ gedit
>>> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes
>>> are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have
>>> stale
>>> NFS locks due to a system crash. See 
>>> http://projects.gnome.org/**gconf/<http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/>for
>>> information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed
>>> to
>>> connect to socket /tmp/dbus-sjFuIo1Vhr: Connection refused)
>>> ^C
>>> larry@fogtest:~$
>>>
>>>
>> As you can see, the ssh connection is fine but using a graphical program
>> like gedit does not. So I was making another attempt today (different
>> target) and it worked:
>>
>> larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y sunfish
>>
>>> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-31-generic x86_64)
>>>
>>>  * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
>>>
>>> 22 packages can be updated.
>>> 12 updates are security updates.
>>>
>>> Last login: Tue Aug 28 21:27:53 2012 from hammerhead.thiel.org
>>> larry@sunfish:~$ gedit
>>> larry@sunfish:~$
>>>
>>>
>> Anyone know where to look or how to fix fogtest?
>>
>>
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ufw rules

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
Can anyone tell me how to make a ufw (uncomplicated firewall) rule to allow
incoming ssh but only from the LAN or even a specific LAN.  Not sure I need
to specify an alternate port, but that would be good to know as well.

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Re: ssh -Y question

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
Oh, BTW ufw is disabled on both boxes for the test.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:

> I used to regularly do ssh -X user@machine or ssh -Y user@machine so I
> could run a graphical program on the remote machine and have the display on
> the machine I was sitting at.  In fact, I used to do this at installfests
> from my laptop (lapdog2) to the headless PXE server (fogtest) right next to
> me.  That stopped working months ago and I have not been able to figure out
> why or how to fix it.  Here is a sample of what I get:
>
> larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y fogtest
>> Linux fogtest 2.6.32-41-generic-pae #91-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 13 12:00:09
>> UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
>> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
>>
>> 
>>
>
> Last login: Mon Oct 15 16:37:44 2012 from sunfish.thiel.org
>> larry@fogtest:~$ gedit
>> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes
>> are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale
>> NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/for 
>> information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed
>> to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-sjFuIo1Vhr: Connection refused)
>> ^C
>> larry@fogtest:~$
>>
>
> As you can see, the ssh connection is fine but using a graphical program
> like gedit does not. So I was making another attempt today (different
> target) and it worked:
>
> larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y sunfish
>> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-31-generic x86_64)
>>
>>  * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
>>
>> 22 packages can be updated.
>> 12 updates are security updates.
>>
>> Last login: Tue Aug 28 21:27:53 2012 from hammerhead.thiel.org
>> larry@sunfish:~$ gedit
>> larry@sunfish:~$
>>
>
> Anyone know where to look or how to fix fogtest?
>
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ssh -Y question

2012-10-16 Thread Dazed_75
I used to regularly do ssh -X user@machine or ssh -Y user@machine so I
could run a graphical program on the remote machine and have the display on
the machine I was sitting at.  In fact, I used to do this at installfests
from my laptop (lapdog2) to the headless PXE server (fogtest) right next to
me.  That stopped working months ago and I have not been able to figure out
why or how to fix it.  Here is a sample of what I get:

larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y fogtest
> Linux fogtest 2.6.32-41-generic-pae #91-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 13 12:00:09 UTC
> 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
>
> 
>

Last login: Mon Oct 15 16:37:44 2012 from sunfish.thiel.org
> larry@fogtest:~$ gedit
> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes
> are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale
> NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for
> information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to
> connect to socket /tmp/dbus-sjFuIo1Vhr: Connection refused)
> ^C
> larry@fogtest:~$
>

As you can see, the ssh connection is fine but using a graphical program
like gedit does not. So I was making another attempt today (different
target) and it worked:

larry@hammerhead:~$ ssh -Y sunfish
> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-31-generic x86_64)
>
>  * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
>
> 22 packages can be updated.
> 12 updates are security updates.
>
> Last login: Tue Aug 28 21:27:53 2012 from hammerhead.thiel.org
> larry@sunfish:~$ gedit
> larry@sunfish:~$
>

Anyone know where to look or how to fix fogtest?

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Re: gimp 2.8

2012-10-10 Thread Dazed_75
BTW, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEAP-CS__pU would seem to indicate
there is no need to compile, just follow the instructions for ubuntu/debian
and install the PPA and go to it.

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> Why do you always do things the hard way and seem not to bother
> researching your question?  Try doing a google search on "gimp 2.8 mint"
> (without the quotes) and you will get lots of hits.  If you do want to
> compile it look at
> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-latest-gimp-282-in-ubuntu.html
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> okay I want to install gimp 2.8 (I run mint... not ubuntu). I ran
>> configure and it hung saying babl isn't installed. I go to a webpage and it
>> says that it is kept in a git repository. HOw do I install it into the
>> directory it is supposed to be installed in? hm i just ran 'find
>> bal|grep babl' and found where babl is installed is installed. How do I
>> tell it to do what I need to tell it?
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Re: gimp 2.8

2012-10-10 Thread Dazed_75
Why do you always do things the hard way and seem not to bother researching
your question?  Try doing a google search on "gimp 2.8 mint" (without the
quotes) and you will get lots of hits.  If you do want to compile it look
at
http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-latest-gimp-282-in-ubuntu.html


On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> okay I want to install gimp 2.8 (I run mint... not ubuntu). I ran
> configure and it hung saying babl isn't installed. I go to a webpage and it
> says that it is kept in a git repository. HOw do I install it into the
> directory it is supposed to be installed in? hm i just ran 'find
> bal|grep babl' and found where babl is installed is installed. How do I
> tell it to do what I need to tell it?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: OT: Which news source(s) do you prefer?

2012-10-02 Thread Dazed_75
I have the same issues so look at multiple source (none in print) but I've
been using BBC of late for real life news even though that doesn't get a
lot of stateside or local coverage.  I don't think the question was about
tech news.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Patricia Wilson wrote:

> For politics and world news foxnews special report. For techie stuff zdnet.
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM,  wrote:
>
>>
>> Which news sources (print and/or internet) do y'all prefer?
>>
>> I'm fed up with *all* media sources ... with all of the bias (both ways),
>> spin, distortion, inflammation, exaggeration, ambulance chasing
>> sensationalizing, and overdone visual graphics.
>>
>> Haven't subscribed to any print media for more than 20 years, but used to
>> scan the USA Today headlines online; however, since they just changed
>> their format to force an excessive (imh) clutter of graphics on us, it is
>> no longer a viable option for me.
>>
>> Are there any online news headline sources that are not radical, liberal,
>> left-wing, extremist, fanatic, spinmeisters? ... or (almost as bad)
>> extreme right-wingers?
>>
>> I've tried all those listed at this link and found nothing that seems
>> reasonably "fair and balanced" ... and most of all *efficient* without
>> excessive clutter.
>>
>> - - - http://www.upquick.com/best/news.htm - - -
>>
>> So what would y'all recommend?
>>
>>
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Re: How to reprogram the M$ key?

2012-09-22 Thread Dazed_75
Joe, please always remind us what Operating System and version you are
using when you ask these kinds of questions.  You should not get nearly so
many answers that are across the board and not aimed at your environment.
For example, if you are running Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity, the Super key
(windows key) should bring up the Dash but that is not what would happen if
you had installed Cinnamon or if you were running Fedora for example.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Michael Butash  wrote:

> I won't argue that, but you're subject to high variability in driver
> support from hardware vs. driver vs. monitor support and bugginess across
> versions of all of them.  I've seen all kinds of wacky things in different
> monitor combinations in gnome/unity/compiz in long-term production use as
> every workstation i own.  Joe's problem isn't entirely uncommon with unity
> and certain invoked glitzy functions.
>
> Additionally, since being on 12.04 various new and annoying (at best,
> worst hard crash) features have been added in unity upgrades numerous
> times, remapping new key functions for exciting random fits of aggravation.
>  I've wasted too much time figuring out what changed and slipped in new
> (mostly the damn lens features that remapped the alt key at least twice on
> me).
>
> Unity is much more tolerable when disabled/gutted switching to metacity.
>  Use cairo-dock or awn (i use both) and you don't really miss it.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 09/21/2012 09:38 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
>
>> It shouldn't lock up the computer, but the daytime high should never be
>> warmer than 80 on a summer's day. Politicians should always tell the
>> truth. Gas should never be over $1 a gallon, etc. Never underestimate
>> the possibilities when dealing with a computer that's designed by
>> humans, running software written by humans and used for the most part by
>> humans.
>>
>> On 9/21/2012 19:48, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>
>>> If you are talking about the key that is just to the left of the
>>> space. That is the "meta" key. It's like CTRL, ALT or SHIFT and should
>>> be used to get to extra functions in combination with that key. It
>>> shouldn't really do much beyond that and shouldn't be capable of
>>> locking up your computer.
>>>
>>> It is used quite a bit in KDE in hotkeys that adjust the window manager.
>>> For instance if I press META + 0 I get a magnified image around the
>>> mouse.
>>>
>>> Brian Cluff
>>>
>>> On 09/21/2012 06:52 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> How can I reprogram/neutralize that annoying M$ key on a standard
>>>> keyboard?
>>>>
>>>> In the past, I have inadvertently hit that key and had it lock up my
>>>> Linux
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what it is for anyway, other than as an annoying
>>>> reminder of
>>>> M$ anti-trust coercion tactics to try to make the whole world conform to
>>>> its dictates.
>>>>
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Re: wireless question

2012-09-22 Thread Dazed_75
Have you recently placed any new electronics near the computer whose
wireless is slow?  Something like a wireless phone or remote temp sensor or
whatever that might be interfering with the signal.  Also check the antenna
has not loosened or moved in a way that makes it less effective.

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Lyle Tuttle  wrote:

>  Thanks PaulI now think it is the wireless card in my laptop because
> my wireless connection to my smart phones works fine..does that make
> sense?
>
>
> At 05:56 PM 9/21/2012, Paul Mooring wrote:
>
> The ISP could not cause that problem.  My guess is someone next door is
> using your wireless slowing down all connected clients.  Check your router
> for any devices on your wireless that aren't yours.
> --
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lyle Tuttle 
> Reply-To: Main discussion list 
> Date: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:16 PM
> To: Main discussion list 
> Subject: wireless question
>
> >Is it possible for cox to cut the speed of my wireless router without
> >affecting my eithernet speed?
> >
> >Out of the blue my wireless has dropped to next to nothing while my
> >hard-wire connection is fine..
> >
> >Any thoughts?
> >
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Re: OT: wireless problem

2012-09-22 Thread Dazed_75
Go into network connections and remove the one for your neighbors SSID.
Once your system has shown a preference for it (and maybe got an unsecured
connection in the past), it will keep going back there.  Also delete the
one for your own SSID.  That way the card will see both signals but not
show a preference for either.

Then you should be able to select your SSID and enter the :[new] pass
phrase instead of relying on whatever XP has in storage for your network.

What kind of wireless security are you using on upquick (WEP, WPA.
WPA2..._?

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:40 PM,  wrote:

>
> > Are you connected to the right wireless ssid?  Did you mean
> > to connect to upquick instead of the one on the top?
>
> "upquick" is the name I gave to my network, and I've entered the
> security word/passcode that I assigned for it.  It works fine on my
> other wireless computers and devices and has 5 bars signal strength.
>
> That other wireless item, MSKG, keeps forcing itself to the top
> listing, which seems very strange, and it automatically connects
> every time, but won't work without a password, which I don't have.
> It shows only 2 or 3 bars signal strength, so I can't understand
> why it keeps showing up.  I've tried to delete it, but haven't
> been able to. Something seems fishy about it.
>
> And, as I've said, when I boot into kubuntu Linux on the same
> computer, I can connect to my 'upquick' network just fine.
>
> That suggests to me that there is nothing wrong with the computer
> hardware or D-Link wireless adaptor, but something seems to be
> messed up with the win-xp OS.  Could this be caused by a virus?
>
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Re: Helping a Japanese Ftiend

2012-09-16 Thread Dazed_75
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Matt Graham wrote:

> From: Dazed_75 
> > I was able to "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=5" as you
> > suggested so I did the whole thing with of=japanese.iso and tried
> > mounting that with Archive Mounter with no success
>
> It's definitely a data DVD of some type, then.
>
> > Lastly I used hd [to write] some of it to a file
>
> The strings in the file say that it was supposed to be UDF.  However, if
> you
> try to mount it as UDF, it says something like "can't find a superblock at
> the
> end of the image".  If it's supposed to be UDF, then the first thing I'd
> try
> is to dd the whole thing to a file, then run fsck.udf on that file, and
> see if
> that can reconstruct the superblock or at least make the first few VOB
> files
> readable.  Note that the fsck you need may be called udffsck, and it might
> not
> be installed.  The fsck for UDF should be available on all distros.
>

I could not find it anywhere   While searchung Synaptic for it I did fins
dares and dares-qt.  It found 53 files and built a recover.iso but that
does  di not seem to be helpful either.

>
> It may also be that it was burned as a multisession DVD and never fixated,
> or
> it had 2 sessions and the second session was messed up.  "cdrecord -toc
> dev=/dev/scd0" will tell you how many sessions it has.
>

larry@hammerhead:cdrecord -toc dev=/dev/sr0
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'HL-DT-ST'
Identification : 'DVDRAM GH22NS50 '
Revision   : 'TN02'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver (mmc_mdvd).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: PACKET SAO
first: 1 last 1
track:   1 lba: 0 (0) 00:02:00 adr: 1 control: 4 mode: -1
track:lout lba:   1989840 (  7959360) -1:59:74 adr: 1 control: 4 mode: -1
larry@hammerhead:

Me, I don't see anything helpful there.  If it were made as mult-session,
only one session recorded and it was never finalized, what would I expect
to see?  More sessions?  I don't see any indication.


> > try to get some details from her brother about how he
> > made it.  I doubt that she will be able to.
>
> If the DVD is damaged at the very edge, where the fs said it was looking
> for
> the superblock, or there's multisession oddness going on, that could cause
> the
> problems you reported.
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> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Matt Graham
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are you sure this is actually a DVD, and not something weird like a
> > > DVD-sized
> > > SVCD?  All the DVDs I've seen and heard about can be mounted as either
> > > iso9660
> > > or udf.  Can you do something like "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/dev/null bs=1M
> > > count=5"
> > > and not get an I/O error?  That command should error out on something
> like
> > > an
> > > SVCD that doesn't have 2048-byte sectors.  If dd'ing the first few M
> > > actually
> > > works, then the filesystem on the DVD is probably messed up in some way
> > > that
> > > this old player can handle, but other things can't.
> > >
> > > If this is a VCD-like thing, then vcdxrip may be able to get the video
> > > stream
> > > off the device, and mplayer can play VCDs.
> > >
> > > > larry@hammerhead:~$ regionset /dev/sr0
> > > > drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF
> > > > So I think you are right that yours was not set for any region as was
> > > mine
> > >
> > > Then it's probably not region problems.
> > >
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Re: Helping a Japanese Ftiend

2012-09-15 Thread Dazed_75
Thanks Matt,

Sorry for the delay, yesterday was nuts.  I was able to "dd if=/dev/sr0
of=/dev/null bs=1M count=5" as you suggested so I did the whole thing with
of=japanese.iso and tried mounting that with Archive Mounter with no
success and the with Archive Manager which gave me an error that it was not
an iso0660 format.  Lastly I used hd some of it to a file (attached) if
anyone wants to see it.

I'm going to have her try to get some details from her brother about how he
made it.  I doubt that she will be able to.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Matt Graham wrote:

>
> Are you sure this is actually a DVD, and not something weird like a
> DVD-sized
> SVCD?  All the DVDs I've seen and heard about can be mounted as either
> iso9660
> or udf.  Can you do something like "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/dev/null bs=1M
> count=5"
> and not get an I/O error?  That command should error out on something like
> an
> SVCD that doesn't have 2048-byte sectors.  If dd'ing the first few M
> actually
> works, then the filesystem on the DVD is probably messed up in some way
> that
> this old player can handle, but other things can't.
>
> If this is a VCD-like thing, then vcdxrip may be able to get the video
> stream
> off the device, and mplayer can play VCDs.
>
> > larry@hammerhead:~$ regionset /dev/sr0
> > drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF
> > So I think you are right that yours was not set for any region as was
> mine
>
> Then it's probably not region problems.
>
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Re: Helping a Japanese Ftiend

2012-09-12 Thread Dazed_75
Thanks for the replies folks!

Derek, this DVD has been tried in 5 players and on 2 computers.  The only
on that will play it is a 5 year old all region player belonging to the
lady's friend somewhere across town.

Matt, I do not know what the video encoding is.

larry@hammerhead:~$ regionset /dev/sr0
regionset version 0.1 -- reads/sets region code on DVD drives
Current Region Code settings:
RPC Phase: II
type: NONE
vendor resets available: 4
user controlled changes resets available: 5
drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF

Would you like to change the region setting of your drive? [y/n]:y
Enter the new region number for your drive [1..8]:2
New mask: 0xFFFD, correct? [y/n]:y
Region code set successfully!
larry@hammerhead:~$ man mount
larry@hammerhead:~$ mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /media/dvd/
mount: only root can do that
larry@hammerhead:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /media/dvd/
mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0,
   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so

So I think you are right that yours was not set for any region as was mine
and now I have set it back to region 1 (saw no way to UNset 2).


On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Matt Graham wrote:

> From: Dazed_75
> > Helping a Japanese friend trying to play a DVD her brother in Japan made.
> > It plays in someone else’s all region DVD player
>
> So it's a regular DVD with MPEG-2 video on it?
>
> > UDF-fs: error (sr0): __udf_read_inode: (ino 1989838) failed
> > UDF-fs: Failed to read VAT inode from the last recorded
> > block (1989838), retrying
>
> This probably doesn't have a UDF filesystem on it.  Try mounting it with -t
> iso9660 .  You may have to turn your automounter off temporarily.  Region
> codes may be another factor.  If you have regionset installed, run
> "regionset
> /dev/scd0" with a DVD in the drive, see what that tells you.  Mine says
> "drive
> plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF" which makes me think it's
> region-free,
> but I don't know for sure since all I have are region 1 DVDs.
>
> > IN=virbr0 OUT=MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:da:48:0c:9b:27:c4:08:00
> > DF PROTO=2
> >
> > Does anyone know if that DF PROTO means region 2 which includes Japan?
>
> That's a networking message, as the network interface name virbr0 and the
> MAC
> and the IP address should've told you.  PROTO 2 is IGMP, which is really
> not
> relevant to your DVD problem.  You may want to take your firewall and tell
> it
> to be less verbose.
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Helping a Japanese Ftiend

2012-09-12 Thread Dazed_75
Helping a Japanese friend trying to play a DVD her brother in Japan made.
It plays in someone else’s all region DVD player   We bought her one too
and today we tried it with no success.  I brought the DVD home with me
thinking I might be able to learn something with my Kinux machine.  When I
put it in I got this:



and dmesg shows

larry@hammerhead:~$ dmesg | tail
[   50.798300] [UFW BLOCK] IN=virbr0 OUT=
MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:da:48:0c:9b:27:c4:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=224.0.0.1
LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
[  132.090169] UDF-fs: error (device sr0): __udf_read_inode: (ino 1989838)
failed !bh
[  132.091448] UDF-fs: error (device sr0): __udf_read_inode: (ino 1989837)
failed !bh
[  132.092650] UDF-fs: error (device sr0): __udf_read_inode: (ino 1989836)
failed !bh
[  132.093885] UDF-fs: error (device sr0): __udf_read_inode: (ino 1989835)
failed !bh
[  132.093893] UDF-fs: Failed to read VAT inode from the last recorded
block (1989838), retrying with the last block of the device (1989839).
[  132.095153] UDF-fs: Filesystem marked read-only because writing to
pseudooverwrite partition is not implemented
[  132.095180] UDF-fs: error (device sr0): udf_read_tagged: read failed,
block=2394887184, location=0
[  132.095185] UDF-fs: warning (device sr0): udf_fill_super: No fileset
found
[  175.959696] [UFW BLOCK] IN=virbr0 OUT=
MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:da:48:0c:9b:27:c4:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=224.0.0.1
LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
larry@hammerhead:~$

Does anyone know if that DF PROTO means region 2 which includes Japan?  Any
other ideas I might try to learn what is going on?

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Re: find and replace

2012-09-11 Thread Dazed_75
Close.  It is a Perl program/script, but your assumptions were correct:

RENAME(1)  Perl Programmers Reference Guide
> RENAME(1)
>
> NAME
>rename - renames multiple files
>
> SYNOPSIS
>rename [ -v ] [ -n ] [ -f ] perlexpr [ files ]
>
> DESCRIPTION
>"rename" renames the filenames supplied according to the rule
> specified
>as the first argument.  The perlexpr argument is a Perl expression
>which is expected to modify the $_ string in Perl for at least some
> of
>the filenames specified.  If a given filename is not modified by the
>expression, it will not be renamed.  If no filenames are given on
> the
>command line, filenames will be read via standard input.
>
>
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Paul Mooring  wrote:

>   I don't have the original conversation, but I would assume rename is a
> script taking 2 arguments.  The first a regex to replace the title and the
> second the file list.  This would mean rename is the script to be executed,
> the regex is as I described before and the *.JPG would shell expand to any
> file whose name ends in '*.JPG'.
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>
>   From: Michael Havens 
> Reply-To: Main discussion list 
> Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:47 AM
>
> To: Main discussion list 
> Subject: Re: find and replace
>
>   So the full string I was given is:
>
>rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
>
>  So what does the *.JPG do? If you 's(earch)/string/(replace)string' then
> what is the need for *JPG?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Paul Mooring  wrote:
>
>>   When you do search and replace, the replace section is literal not a
>> pattern match.  So piece by piece:
>> s/ # This means match the first section and replace with the second
>> \.JPG$/  # This means a literal '.' at any point in the string followed
>> by 'JPG' then the end of the line
>> .jpg/ # This is the string to replace the previous regex with '.jpg'
>>  --
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>>
>>  www.opscode.com
>>
>>   From: Michael Havens 
>> Reply-To: Main discussion list 
>> Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:42 AM
>> To: Main discussion list 
>> Subject: Re: find and replace
>>
>>  Hate to resurrect old stuff but in
>>
>> rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
>>
>>  is this saying to s(earch)/(for the string).JPG$/(replace with).jpg/ ?
>> Why does one not need the escape character (\) before the period here or
>> before the final JPG? What does the *.JPG at the end signify?
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Sam Kreimeyer wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a pdf of a quick guide to regular expressions
>>>
>>> http://www.addedbytes.com/download/regular-expressions-cheat-sheet-v1/pdf/
>>>
>>> Basically, it's a format for defining search patterns that supports
>>> special meanings for certain characters. For instance:
>>>
>>> a - finds any string like "a"
>>> a. - finds any string like "a" plus any other character except a new
>>> line (matches "aa", "ab", "ac", etc)
>>> a.* - finds any string like "a" plus zero or more characters except a
>>> new line (matches "aa", "abcdefghijk")
>>> Other special characters can further modify this behavior.
>>>
>>> So here's an explanation of the earlier command.
>>>
>>> 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
>>>
>>> Basic search and replace format s/[string we search for]/[string to
>>> replace matches with]/
>>>
>>> "\.JPG$" - Because "." is special, we escape it with "\" to keep the
>>> regex from interpreting it, so the "." will be treated literally. "JPG" is
>>> what we're looking for. Placing a "$" at the end of the string tells the
>>> regex to match the string only at the end of the strings you're searching.
>>> This means that you will match "example.JPG" but not "JPG.example".
>>>
>>> ".jpg" - This is our replacement string. This is what goes in the place
>>> of every match we find.
>>>
>>> "*.JPG" - while this isn't part of the regex, "*" is a wildcard (can be
>>> substituted for any

Re: find and replace

2012-09-11 Thread Dazed_75
The *.JPG is the set of files for which to do the rename.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> So the full string I was given is:
>
>rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
>
> So what does the *.JPG do? If you 's(earch)/string/(replace)string' then
> what is the need for *JPG?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Paul Mooring  wrote:
>
>>   When you do search and replace, the replace section is literal not a
>> pattern match.  So piece by piece:
>> s/ # This means match the first section and replace with the second
>> \.JPG$/  # This means a literal '.' at any point in the string followed
>> by 'JPG' then the end of the line
>> .jpg/ # This is the string to replace the previous regex with '.jpg'
>>  --
>> Paul Mooring
>> Systems Engineer and Customer Advocate
>>
>>  www.opscode.com
>>
>>   From: Michael Havens 
>> Reply-To: Main discussion list 
>> Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:42 AM
>> To: Main discussion list 
>> Subject: Re: find and replace
>>
>>  Hate to resurrect old stuff but in
>>
>> rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
>>
>>  is this saying to s(earch)/(for the string).JPG$/(replace with).jpg/ ?
>> Why does one not need the escape character (\) before the period here or
>> before the final JPG? What does the *.JPG at the end signify?
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Sam Kreimeyer wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a pdf of a quick guide to regular expressions
>>>
>>> http://www.addedbytes.com/download/regular-expressions-cheat-sheet-v1/pdf/
>>>
>>> Basically, it's a format for defining search patterns that supports
>>> special meanings for certain characters. For instance:
>>>
>>> a - finds any string like "a"
>>> a. - finds any string like "a" plus any other character except a new
>>> line (matches "aa", "ab", "ac", etc)
>>> a.* - finds any string like "a" plus zero or more characters except a
>>> new line (matches "aa", "abcdefghijk")
>>> Other special characters can further modify this behavior.
>>>
>>> So here's an explanation of the earlier command.
>>>
>>> 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
>>>
>>> Basic search and replace format s/[string we search for]/[string to
>>> replace matches with]/
>>>
>>> "\.JPG$" - Because "." is special, we escape it with "\" to keep the
>>> regex from interpreting it, so the "." will be treated literally. "JPG" is
>>> what we're looking for. Placing a "$" at the end of the string tells the
>>> regex to match the string only at the end of the strings you're searching.
>>> This means that you will match "example.JPG" but not "JPG.example".
>>>
>>> ".jpg" - This is our replacement string. This is what goes in the place
>>> of every match we find.
>>>
>>> "*.JPG" - while this isn't part of the regex, "*" is a wildcard (can be
>>> substituted for any number of characters).
>>>
>>> Hope that helps!
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Re: VIM book free on Kindle today

2012-08-17 Thread Dazed_75
Thanks Jill, I always hate to use it but now I have a ready reference for
when I need to.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM, jill  wrote:

> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JF4NOQ/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_ask_-KZ9E.1VDNAB7
>
> Kindle edition of Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills,
> 2nd ed. is free right now.  Can't beat free!
> (kindle books can also be read on Android devices, on Windows with a
> desktop app, and on Win/Mac/*nix in a Chrome plugin.)
>
> - Jill
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Re: How to print to Canon wireless printer on my Linux network.

2012-08-16 Thread Dazed_75
You still have to actually ADD a new printer.  I am assuming Ubuntu here
but I would bet it is nearly the same for every Linux Desktop.  When you
do, select network printer and the printing setup will probably find it.
If not you might have to doing it manually from the IP.  I've never had to
do it that way though.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:21 PM,  wrote:

> I recently added a Canon wireless printer to my Linux network and set it
> up with my wife's win-xp laptop to print wirelessly.
>
> But I cannot figure out how to be able to print to the same printer from
> my Linux systems on the same network.
>
> I have tried going to my Linux system "Control Center" where I see my old
> LaserJet printer, but not the newly added printer. Tried "Refresh" but it
> still does not find the newly added
> Canon printer.
>
> Also, how can I find a list of the IP numbers for the computers, tablet,
> tivo, printers, and any other devices on my system?
>
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Re: looking for DDR3 1333MHz ECC memory

2012-08-06 Thread Dazed_75
If you get ddr2 memory into a ddr3 slot, you already broke it.  It will not
fit due to the slot placement.

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> If you get ddr 2 in ddr 3 slots yes given voltage pins are in the wrong
> place. But wrong timing will just be a non post.
> On Aug 6, 2012 10:13 PM, "Derek Trotter"  wrote:
>
>>  If you put the wrong memory in a motherboard, aren't you running the
>> risk of frying the motherboard, memory or both?
>>
>>  On 8/6/2012 21:57, Stephen wrote:
>>
>> Get me a picture and i can probably help you identify it.
>> On Aug 6, 2012 6:28 PM, "Steven A. DuChene" <
>> linux-clust...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a mystery motherboard with what I believe is a Intel Nehalem
>>> server cpu.
>>> I think the type of memory I need is PC3-10600 DDR3 1333MHz ECC memory.
>>> The board seems to have a A, B, and C memory channel from what I can see
>>> on the motherboard.
>>> I believe I can either put two identical DIMMs in with one in channel A
>>> slot 0 and the other in channel B slot 0 or I can I think I can put three
>>> identical DIMMs in slot 0 of all three channels.
>>>
>>> I have tried PC3-10600 DDR3 Non-ECC DIMMs but I did not get any video,
>>>
>>> Before I go out and purchase some new memory does anyone have any spare
>>> PC3-10600 ECC memory DIMMs they could bring to a PLUG meeting so I can try
>>> to see if that is the correct memory before I purchase new DIMMs?
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: Video Editing software ideas?

2012-07-15 Thread Dazed_75
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software is no help for
deciding anything but it does give a clue about the variety that is
available.

I have been partial to OpenShot and have given a presentation on it several
times.  Historically, I tried 5 different ones for Linux before settling on
OpenShot about two years ago.

Brian gave a presentation Tuesday night on Kdenlive.  I have to say I am
impressed with what it has to offer.  Apparently Kdenlive is also available
for BSD and MacOS.

I am afraid you need to be conscientious about regularly saving you project
in either product to prevent loss of your work.

I have heard some people like Cinnelara though I was not happy with it two
years ago.  There are a couple of others but I do not recall their names.
I also heard that a commercial editor is coming to Linux as Freeware or
maybe even FOSS, but have not heard anything for some months.  That might
have been Lightworks but I am not sure.



On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, mike enriquez  wrote:

> Does anyone in the group have a Video Editor that they like.  I am looking
> for software that is easy to learn and not that expensive.
> Linux or windows is ok.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Weird virtualbox... [SOLVED]

2012-07-15 Thread Dazed_75
A very drastic workaround that got you by your problem.  I'm not sure it is
solved until someone understands WHAT happened and WHY so you can be
confident it won't happen again or know a less drastic resolution.

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com <
kitepi...@kitepilot.com> wrote:

> Well, I wiped out Mint and installed Debian squeeze.
> All good now...   :)
> ET
>
>
> kitepi...@kitepilot.com writes:
>
>> Well, the Gnomes are at work (again) in my box and I could certainly use
>> some help to evict them...
>> This is what's happening:
>> I use:
>> 'ssh -fCXY user@remotebox run-something'
>> a lot.
>> Works every time.
>> Or 'mostly' every time...
>> Now when I run (ONLY from *MY* box):
>> ssh -fCXY turboviking virtualbox
>> I get:
>> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/virtualbox/**VirtualBox: malloc():
>> memory corruption: 0x099c5e48 ***
>> And a long trace.
>> This is the quick rundown of how it broke:
>> My desktop was having hiccups and I decided to replace whatever I had
>> (can't remember what) with the latest Xubuntu.
>> After that, the problem started.
>> This problem, coupled with other issues, led me to scrap Xubuntu and
>> install the latest Mint/Mate.
>> Problem didn't go away...
>> The Xubuntu and Mint installations were fresh from-scratch installs, the
>> only thing I preserved was my home directory.
>> So the conclusion was evident: there is something in my /home/directory
>> causing the problem.
>> Nope...
>> Created another user, rebooted the box and logged in with the new user.
>> Same $#!T...   :(
>> Now, ANYTHING else that I have fired up works just fine.
>> And If I run the exact same instruction from other of my local boxes, it
>> works fine too!
>> It is ONLY 'vitualbox in my box' that fails.
>> But it used to work just fine...
>> Now the (unsolvable and incomprehensible to me) question is:
>> What could possibly be breaking the whole 'remote SSH run' mechanism
>> (ONLY for Virtualbox) in my box, which used to work fine before, and works
>> fine from everywhere else.
>> Other than sacrificing another goat and burying some transistors and
>> garlic wrapped on anti-static paper at midnite with no Moon, I don't know
>> what to do...
>> I have seen Virtualbox do weird things before when ran it remotely under
>> X/SSH, but this blows my (little) mind.  :(
>> Any ideas?
>> Sight...
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Re: How to troubleshoot a printing problem?

2012-07-10 Thread Dazed_75
Try looking at:
/var/log/cups/access_log
/var/log/cups/error_log
/var/log/cups/page_log

If you want to try deleting and re-installing the printer, make sure it's
print queue/spooler is empty.  If you still can't delete the existing
printer just install it again with a new name.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM,  wrote:

>
> I have an HP LaserJet4 that has worked fine for years printing via 'cups'
> from my long reliable Linux box.
>
> But recently it started hanging up with the "form feed" light lit and when
> I would tap the "form feed" lighted button, it would print a single
> document.
>
> Then, a couple weeks later, that quit working and when I would tap the
> "form feed" lighted button, the printer would just print a page with a
> single line that reads:
>
> ;%-12345x'pjl set pageprotect=auto-*'pjl set manualfeed=off*'pjl set
> economode=o...
>
> I am able to print a test page from the printer, so I believe the printer
> itself is okay.
>
> When I go to http://localhost:631/admin/ (there is no login to root, as I
> understand there is supposed to be), but it just opens to the admin page
> automatically ... but I am unable to delete either of the printers listed
> there.
>
> Meanwhile, I have been able to print from my wife's xp laptop.
>
> And also, I have been able to print from another laptop on which I just
> installed kubuntu.
>
> So, I assume the problem is something wrong with 'cups' on my main desktop
> computer
>
> How can I trouble-shoot this and figure out what needs to be corrected?
>
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Re: Resize partition solution -and- problem.

2012-07-09 Thread Dazed_75
Joe, I do not know that partitioning tool so I do not know for sure it can
be trusted to safely shrink the ntfs partition on which your XP was
running.  What should have happened if it did the right things is that when
you next booted XP, the XP bootloader would note the change in the
partition size and run chkdsk to check it out and then XP would load.

So here are a couple of questions:
1 - Did you reboot XP after resizing the partition but before installing
kubuntu (not requiredm but tell us so we know)
2 - When you say the 5th GRUB menu item (XP) does not work, what do you
mean.  In other words, what does and does not happen.  Is there any output
such as error messages. or ...?

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM,  wrote:

> First ... I'd like to say kudos to Larry (Dazed) and all the great guys
> that give their time so generously at the monthly Installfests, providing
> such excellent help.
>
> Last Saturday, while trying to shrink a 40-gig partition on my xp laptop
> so I could add Linux, we ran into a stumbling block with Gparted not
> working.
>
> Since then, I've been searching for other options. Knoppix CD had one
> called "QTParted" that seemed to work better than Gparted ... but it also
> did not work.
>
> Finally, I found a really slick, free download GUI partition editing
> bootable CD here: www.PartitionWizard.com/download.html ... with an iso
> named: pwhe7.iso
>
> When loading, it showed the name "tinycore" as its Linux platform, and
> when loaded it had the slickest (by far) graphical interface of any
> partition editor I've seen ... and it worked great and fast.  I used
> 'chkdsk' and 'defrag' on the 40-gig hard disk and that seemed to show that
> only about 20% of the disk was used with no indicted disk usage beyond the
> 50% point on the disk.  So, I decided to just shrink the xp partition to
> 22 gig which I though would avoid damaging any of the xp files on the
> disk.
>
> That left 16 gig free to install Linux, so I used 3.6 gig for "/" 3.9 gig
> for swap and the remaining 10 gig for "/home"
>
> Installation of Kubuntu 12.04 went flawlessly and it works fine ...
> however ... the GNU GRUB version 1.99-21-ubuntu3 boot that Kubuntu
> installed shows 5 entries of which only the first four work:
>
> - Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
> - Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-23-generic-pae (recovery mode)
> - Memory test (memtest86+)
> - Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)
> - Microsoft Windows XP Professional (on /dev/sda1)
>
> But xp does not boot.
>
> Grub offers an option to edit each entry, and when I do that
> to the M$ entry, this is what I see:
>
> setparams 'Microsoft Windows XP Professional ()on /dev/sda1)"
>
> insmod part-msdos
> insmod ntfs
> set root='(hd0,msdos1)"
> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 01CD5DCE2C361380
> drivemap -s (hd0) ${root)
> chainloader +1
>
>
> *** So *** what can I do to fix grub so it will boot xp?
> Or have I completely destroyed it?
>
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Re: Looking for Router Suggestions

2012-07-06 Thread Dazed_75
Nope.  I followed the link from the earlier message
https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php and read
this on their web site:

Note: VPN capabilities are only available to VPN subscribers. We work with
> OverPlayVPN <http://www.flashrouters.com/overplay/> to make this process
> simple and easy for beginners. A DD-WRT router may be used to set up a VPN
> connection from a different provider, but only if they offer support. We
> currently will only preset the router for 
> OverPlayVPN<http://www.flashrouters.com/overplay/>users.
>

The I followed the link to OverPlayVPN and read about the services and
costs.  I know dd-wrt will do OpenVPN without a commercial service.  I just
was concerned you had not noticed that blurb of theirs.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:

> Larry,
>
> I queried FlashRouters if they require any vpn or dynamic dns services, or
> if they modify the dd-wrt firmware in any way, and got this response:
>
> "VPN and DNS service are not required at all, however it is quite simple
> to integrate them with DD-WRT routers.
> We load tested, stable DD-WRT builds onto the device, we do not modify the
> actual firmware."
>
> Have you had a bad experience with FlashRouters?
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> Be sure to look at the fine print.  They are setting that router to work
>> with a specific provider of what I think is dynamic DNS and offer special
>> encryption at fee that can come to about $10/month.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phillips <
>> m...@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted...
>>>
>>> However, I found this one -
>>> https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80.
>>> It has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and
>>> dd-wrt installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts
>>> list, but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think
>>> the netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable
>>> "closet" (aka the top shelf in my cupboard).
>>>
>>> Answers to your questions -
>>> I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have
>>> two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41
>>> router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So
>>> the router is also a switch.
>>>
>>> What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized?
>>>
>>> But still, the fun of building this little project may outweigh the high
>>> costs ($ and amps).
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:10 PM, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>>> MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI
>>>> and 2 PCIE)
>>>> 2 GB RAM
>>>> 4 gigabit NIC cards
>>>> IDE or SATA to Compact Flash  Adaptor
>>>> Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF
>>>> card or USB memory stick
>>>> External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter
>>>> Small micro case
>>>> Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick
>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install
>>>>  - Install Openssh
>>>>  - Firewall
>>>>  - OpenVPN
>>>>  - iptables
>>>>
>>>> Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver.  There are a lot
>>>> of instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum
>>>> box configuration.  The mobo  chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller ATOM
>>>> based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots.  you should be able to pick
>>>> up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end router.  Do you
>>>> need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can the connections to
>>>> the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs?  OpenVPN needs a minimum of 2
>>>> NIC's  (Unless you have set up virtual network adaptors and bridged them
>>>> together).  Are you dedicating each user to a NIC for speed?  If not you
>>>> could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and connect the router/vpnserver to a 4
>>>> port gigabit switch.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might
>>>> be fairly high end router for a g

Re: Looking for Router Suggestions

2012-07-06 Thread Dazed_75
Be sure to look at the fine print.  They are setting that router to work
with a specific provider of what I think is dynamic DNS and offer special
encryption at fee that can come to about $10/month.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phillips
wrote:

> James,
>
> It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted...
>
> However, I found this one -
> https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80.
> It has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and
> dd-wrt installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts
> list, but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think
> the netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable
> "closet" (aka the top shelf in my cupboard).
>
> Answers to your questions -
> I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have
> two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41
> router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So
> the router is also a switch.
>
> What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized?
>
> But still, the fun of building this little project may outweigh the high
> costs ($ and amps).
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:10 PM, James Dugger wrote:
>
>> MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI and
>> 2 PCIE)
>> 2 GB RAM
>> 4 gigabit NIC cards
>> IDE or SATA to Compact Flash  Adaptor
>> Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF
>> card or USB memory stick
>> External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter
>> Small micro case
>> Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick
>> Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install
>>  - Install Openssh
>>  - Firewall
>>  - OpenVPN
>>  - iptables
>>
>> Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver.  There are a lot of
>> instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum box
>> configuration.  The mobo  chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller ATOM
>> based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots.  you should be able to pick
>> up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end router.  Do you
>> need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can the connections to
>> the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs?  OpenVPN needs a minimum of 2
>> NIC's  (Unless you have set up virtual network adaptors and bridged them
>> together).  Are you dedicating each user to a NIC for speed?  If not you
>> could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and connect the router/vpnserver to a 4
>> port gigabit switch.
>>
>> I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might
>> be fairly high end router for a good deal but most will also have built in
>> wireless as well.  to find a dedicated wired only higher end router you may
>> pay as much as the system I just outlined and it would be no where near the
>> capabilities of the above system unless it was a lot more expensive.
>>
>> I'm sure that there are others here with a lot more experience with
>> consumer and enterprise level equipment then myself but I have had success
>> with the above. Also keep in mind that the Athlon II is 64bit with SVM
>> built in for virtualization.  With additional memory you could run the
>> whole thing virtualized using KVM or VMware.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Mark Phillips > > wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for a router with the following characteristics:
>>> * No wifi
>>> * 4 gigabit LAN ports
>>> * 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem
>>> * 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4  remote
>>> users to access the LAN at the same time.
>>>
>>> The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn
>>> on the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably
>>> have to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but
>>> I am open to other options (most of the open source router packages support
>>> openvpn, so anyone will do).
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Mark
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Re: Opinions on Zorin OS (and a side order of Mint)

2012-07-05 Thread Dazed_75
howtogeek.com has a number of articles about adding different desktops to
Ubuntu and ubuntu supports you having as many as you want.  Once you have
selected one at the login screen, it will use that one until you change
it.

I did a demo for SLUG where I installed 10 or 12 desktops during the
meeting and simply had to log out and back in the change between any of
them (including MATE BTW).

The only one that caused me any grief was XFCE and the only problem was
that it changed the splash screen forever.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Michael Butash  wrote:

> Yes, either use "metacity --replace &" to kill compiz (and unity), or I
> also use a cairo-dock plugin called "composite manager" to flip between
> them.  I use a startup launch for cairo and awn, using them to replace
> unity, the menu, tasks, and systray items, so I don't even notice unity
> being gone.  Between reducing from 2 framebuffers to 1 with a new video
> card, and disabling compiz/unity, I'd gotten a few weeks of uptime until
> yesterday whereas prior I'd get about 3 days of stable use.
>
> I need to run through and try different desktops now, though anything but
> unity pooped itself (sad to say) when presented with very large desktop
> framebuffers.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 07/05/2012 01:46 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
>
>> CAN you get Ubuntu to NOT use that stupid unity interface?  (Goodness,
>> people, this is a desktop computer, NOT a phone!)
>>
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Re: OT: Is it possible to make a printer wireless?

2012-07-05 Thread Dazed_75
Fry's has recently has both Samsung and Brother Network Laser printers for
$70.  I happen to know that only some of those have had built in wireless
but some have.  Personally I prefer Brother but that is because I have one
and it has been a workhorse.  Brother also has higher capacity toner
cartridges.

If you don't find one with wireless, get a cheap used wireless router for
$20, configure it as a repeater or whatever to be the wireless client and
plug the printer into one of the switch ports.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:55 PM,  wrote:

>
> Lyle wrote:
> > I hold in my hand a Linksys wireless-G Print Server that i no longer
> need...
>
> I'll reply privately.
>
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Re: My messages to the list

2012-07-04 Thread Dazed_75
It is true there is no way (that I have found) to have Gmail place your
original sent mail into your inbox (I wish it would), you CAN manually move
it from the Sent Mail folder to your Inbox if you like.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Wayne Davis
wrote:

> On 07/03/2012 07:41 PM, KevinO wrote:
>
>> On 07/03/2012 05:44 PM, Wayne Davis wrote:
>>
>>> I sent a message to the list earlier today.
>>> It has not shown up in the feed, but I did receive an acknowledgment.
>>>
>>> I DO have it set to receive my own posts to the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Why?
>>>
>> You use Gmail, and Gmail will not return your own posts to you.
>>
>>
>>  Ahh...  I see.Thanks :-)
>
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Re: lubuntu 'find'

2012-07-01 Thread Dazed_75
Betty,
Are you saying that the "locate" and/or "find" command is not present
(doubtful), or that you don't see a graphical search (like with the "dash"
in ubuntu?

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM, betty  wrote:

> I am using l-ubuntu 12.04 with the pcMan manager and i can't for the life
> of me find the  way to 'find' a file or something with part of a file name
> in it. it is driving me crazy. What am i missing???
> thanks
>
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Re: Paint a battery

2012-07-01 Thread Dazed_75
Awesome potential though it may be difficult to both retain capacity and
reduce toxicity of the process.  I hope they can manage it though!

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:

>  I know this is off topic, but still an idea that has interesting
> possibilities.
>
> A team at Rice university is working on batteries that can be painted on
> any surface.  In one test, they painted batteries on some floor tiles.  In
> another they painted one on a beer mug.
>
> Here's a link to the story.  In the story there's a link to a video
> explaining the process and showing the batteries.
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/29/paintable_battery_texas/
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OT: Eblin Moglen and Asimov's 1st Law of Robotics

2012-06-26 Thread Dazed_75
Interesting point of view:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/06/26/eben-moglen-time-to-apply-the-first-law-of-robotics-to-our-smartphones/

I've actually been wondering the same thing though more in the direction of
self-driving cars and UAVs, etc.  Asimov was a real visionary.  Of Course
Susan Calvin and her ilk had the advantage of Positronic Brains.  [?]

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Re: Strange Server Behavior

2012-06-26 Thread Dazed_75
One other thing occurs.  I have a server which usually runs headless.  I
occasionally see the server appear to lock up for a few  minutes.

It is also running Apache.  I have yet to put any web content on it and it
is only accessible from the LAN.  NTL, I finally tracked it down to an
Apache server process.  I assume it is doing some regular house cleaning
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Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones

2012-06-22 Thread Dazed_75
Actually, I rarely reboot my Android phone, have NEVER pulled my battery
and have had better voice quality with both my Androids than with cell
phones of the past.

I had an HTC Incredible for two years and got a Motorola Droid Razr in
February to go with 4G.  The speakerphone on the Motorola is better, but I
liked the software on the HTC better.  My battery generally lasts 30-40
hours but I spend very little time actually talking on it.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Eric Cope  wrote:

> I've been very happy with my iPhone 4. I rarely reboot my phone (every 2-3
> months) and never have to pull the battery, which is not what I hear my
> android friends say. I'm happy with voice quality as well.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, keith smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is very OT.
>>
>> I have been with verizon for 8 years.  Voice only.  It has been 4 years
>> since I upgraded our phones.  It is just my wife and I.
>>
>> We are thinking of going with smart phones.
>>
>> A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker
>> and mic.  Voice quality is very important to me.
>>
>> As it stands we can get unlimited voice for  $120/mo, 1000 texts for
>> $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo.  Total is about $170/mo
>> + tax and fees.
>>
>> I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service.
>>
>> I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint.  My fear with
>> these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls.
>>
>> Any suggestions on which phone to get?  From prior conversations on this
>> list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go.  I don't think I will ever
>> want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know.
>>
>> What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about?
>>
>> I appreciate all the feedback you will provide!
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help!!
>>
>>
>>
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Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones

2012-06-22 Thread Dazed_75
You may be one of the few people who will benefit from the new plans
Verizon will be using starting next Thursday.


http://betanews.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-plan-shares-very-little-savings/

http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0613/Verizon-s-Share-Everything-plans-Will-a-new-plan-cost-you-more

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/12/verizon-announces-shared-everything-plans-starting-at-50-for-1gb-of-data-and-unlimited-talktext/
http://techland.time.com/2012/06/13/verizon-share-everything-plans/


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, keith smith  wrote:

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>
> Hi,
>
> This is very OT.
>
> I have been with verizon for 8 years.  Voice only.  It has been 4 years
> since I upgraded our phones.  It is just my wife and I.
>
> We are thinking of going with smart phones.
>
> A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and
> mic.  Voice quality is very important to me.
>
> As it stands we can get unlimited voice for  $120/mo, 1000 texts for
> $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo.  Total is about $170/mo
> + tax and fees.
>
> I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service.
>
> I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint.  My fear with
> these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls.
>
> Any suggestions on which phone to get?  From prior conversations on this
> list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go.  I don't think I will ever
> want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know.
>
> What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about?
>
> I appreciate all the feedback you will provide!
>
> Thank you in advance for your help!!
>
>
>
> 
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Re: (username) is not in the sudoers file.

2012-06-19 Thread Dazed_75
Actually, I believe you need to use visudo as root to edit that file.
Also, if you are still running Knoppix, you probably have an actual root
you can log into though I could be wrong on that as I have not used Knoppix
in years.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> What he said :-)
> On Jun 18, 2012 6:16 PM, "JD Austin"  wrote:
>
>> That would work.
>> Alternately add yourself to the wheel group and uncomment that line in
>> the /etc/sudoers file.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:45 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> When I tried to use sudo, I saw this message:
>>>
>>> (username) is not in the sudoers file
>>>
>>> Searching the 'net for a solution, I found that perhaps I can just
>>> edit /etc/sudoer to add this line:
>>>
>>> joe ALL=(ALL) ALL
>>>
>>> to get sudo to work.  Is that correct or ill advised?
>>>
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Re: An introduction and RFC on education path.

2012-06-18 Thread Dazed_75
Calibre and read and convert just about anything.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com> wrote:

> There is a windows app for reading kindle docs on windows.  I don’t know
> if there is a linux app, but I’d hope so.  Oh, wait!  Google is your
> friend:it looks like you are stuck with reading it in your browser
> (“Amazon Cloud Reader”, see
> http://techlaze.com/2011/08/linux-users-kindle-cloud/) or using wine (or
> similar) with their native windows programs (assuming that works).   Linux
> Journal says you can read their .mobi files using Calibre, but I don’t know
> if kindle eBooks are .mobi format or not. (I do know there is an android
> app for reading kindle docs on android – I have one and have used it)
>
> ** **
>
> Rusty
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Kenn
> *Sent:* Monday, June 18, 2012 12:56 PM
>
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: An introduction and RFC on education path.
>
> ** **
>
> I see the Keir Thomas books on Amazon, only .99 (Even I can afford that!)
> and they look like what I'm in need of.
>
> Sorry to reply to the whole list on the previous posts (geez, what a
> n00b!) but I guess this question might be for all ... is there a way to
> read Kindle publications if you don't own one?
>
>
> -Ken
>
>
>
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> For books, I am partial to Keir Thomas's works.
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Re: An introduction and RFC on education path.

2012-06-17 Thread Dazed_75
Welcome.  It sounds like you are well on your way.

You would be welcome at our installfests and it sounds like you might enjoy
them.  I run them on the 1st and 3rd Saturday each month from 10am to 4pm
and the University of Advance Technologies (about 3 blocks west of I-10 on
Baseline Toad).

FYI, there is a Free Software Stamtische (social event for Linux folk)
Tuesday at 7pm at Iguana Macks down in Chandler.  There is also an Ubuntu
Hour coming up on 6/28 at 7pm at the Extream Bean in Tempe (SW corner of
McClintock and Southern).

For books, I am partial to Keir Thomas's works.

For the rest (schools, certs, and career) I leave you in the hands of our
professionals.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Kenn  wrote:

> Greetings fellow Linux fans!
>
> Hi, my name is Ken, I'm a recovering Windows user. ;] After experimenting
> with several distros over the years I settled on Ubuntu for my  typical day
> to day stuff, file & print sharing etc. I use a few amateur radio apps like
> fldigi and Gnome Predict sat tracking. When Shotwell or Gimp isn't enough I
> use Photoshop 7 through Wine. I've done some experimenting with VirtualBox
> as well. I want to be more in the know on command lines, scripting, small
> networks and servers, administration and security, running the occasional
> Windows apps, etc. Paths I'm considering are:
>
>
> 1. Self teach. This approach usually works well for me. I do best at my
> own pace and still find a good textbook(s) the key to getting started.
> Experimenting and Google are my friends. I haven't found a Linux book I
> really like so far, any recommends?
>
> 2. Community college. My concern is how many times I've entered a program
> only to find the more advanced classes weren't offered later. Cost and
> distance are a factor as I live in Fountain Hills.
>
> 3. Online classes. Does anyone offer these that are worthwhile?
>
> 4. Private schools. Probably very expensive and intense?
>
>
> So what do you gurus recommend? If I go for some Linux certs, what
> institution should I get those from? Are there many employment opps for a
> Linux Cert holder in Phoenix Metro?
>
>
> Thanks for your input,
>
>
> -Ken
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Re: small computer overview

2012-06-15 Thread Dazed_75
I don't really have a use for any of them though I have a raspberry on
order.  That mostly because it is a cheap toy.  That said I kind of have 3
favorites:

- Raspberry Pi:  a cheap toy that can be a great demo/eye catcher as well
as be useful to some, a good learning experience for others, and a cheap
gift for the right person.

- Cotton Candy:  Seems much more capable but at too high a price point to
really peak my interest.  Ignoring price, I would love to play with one.

- Norhtec Gecko: Easily the most generic and capable at a reasonable
price.  One might think it too big since it is built in to a reasonable
sized keyboard, but one would often carry a keybored for the others too.  I
suppose that if I had a need for something, this might well be my choice.

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> Which one do you favor, Larry?
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> http://raymii.org/cms/p_Small_Linux_PCs_overview
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Re: Android file creation permissions

2012-06-12 Thread Dazed_75
While I am totally unable to answer your question, there is an obvious
question to ask you.  Have you tried any OTHER text editor to see if it
have the same problem or if the problem is isolated to Jotta (actually Jota
I think)?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Shawn Badger  wrote:

> I have an Android tablet running Cyanogenmod 7 that is using
> CifsManager to mount a share. That all works well, but the problem I
> am having is when an application (Jotta Text editor in this case)
> creates a file on the share it creates it with a 600 file permission,
> but when I create it from a terminal it creates the file with a 666
> file permission which is what I want. I am trying to figure out how to
> change the way the application is saving the files. I have set the
> smb.conf so the default file mode  is 666 and also put file_mode=666
> in the options for CifsManager, but the applications seem to ignore
> those settings.  Does anyone know how to get the applications (without
> changing the modifying it) to stop overriding the default?
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Re: ESM

2012-06-11 Thread Dazed_75
Wish I knew.  We need Brian Cluff to chime in as he is probably the only
one who knows

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Eric Allen  wrote:

> Anyone know what this weeks topic will be at ESM?
> .
> Eric
>
>
> 
> Refinance for 2.00%/3.092% APR
> Loans under 729K usually qualify for US GOV backed refinance programs
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Re: Fedora Pays Microsoft Boot License fee.

2012-06-09 Thread Dazed_75
As stated, they are not paying M$, they are paying Verisign a TOTAL of $99
for a certificate they can use to sign their software.  This is not worth
the time to discuss it.

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> http://dangerousprototypes.**com/2012/06/04/fedora-pays-m-**
> boot-tax-to-access-consumers-**hardware/<http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/04/fedora-pays-m-boot-tax-to-access-consumers-hardware/>
>
>
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> lot about nothing or the beginnings of a real problem?
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Re: OT: computer/electronics recycling

2012-05-20 Thread Dazed_75
Oh, BTW, they are now putting Linux Mint on a lot of machines!

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:

> http://www.azstrut.org/ is another possibility.  They also have a number
> of drop sites (click on "Donations") and I see they now have an association
> with Batteries Plus which has a Scottsdale office.
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:05 PM, AZ Pete  wrote:
>
>>  Hi All,
>>
>> I have 2 old laptops that I'd like to get rid of and would prefer not to
>> simply throw them in the trash. Is there a place I can drop them for
>> recycling?  I live in North Scottsdale, so ideally a place in the vicinity
>> would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>>
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Re: OT: computer/electronics recycling

2012-05-20 Thread Dazed_75
http://www.azstrut.org/ is another possibility.  They also have a number of
drop sites (click on "Donations") and I see they now have an association
with Batteries Plus which has a Scottsdale office.

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:05 PM, AZ Pete  wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
> I have 2 old laptops that I'd like to get rid of and would prefer not to
> simply throw them in the trash. Is there a place I can drop them for
> recycling?  I live in North Scottsdale, so ideally a place in the vicinity
> would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
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Re: Which linux distro

2012-05-18 Thread Dazed_75
Derek, we are holding an installfest at UAT tomorrow (Saturday) from
10-4pm.  Comeon down if you would like some assistance or even just to talk.

http://plug.phoenix.az.us/component/jevents/icalrepeat.detail/2012/05/19/3225/-/linux-installfest-server-emphasis.html?Itemid=1

Larry

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> Which linux distro would you suggest for someone who wants to install
> linux but wants an easy to set up and configure distro?
>
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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Dazed_75
The one such message I got from google was real.  The person also got into
and stole my Blizzard account before I got an authenticator.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Matt Graham wrote:

> > On May 13, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> >> This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone
> >> broke into my account. [...] Is google just filling us with paranoia
> >> or is someone really hacking me?
> From: Alex Dean 
> > Are you sure that message is from Google? Could be more phishing.
>
> Phishing attempts are usually totally obvious if you look at the full
> headers
> of a message and/or the href= attributes of any links within the HTML
> portions
> of a message.  So:  Take a look at the message's raw source and find out.
>
> (If this *is* phishing, I fully expect to see about 20 mails like this in
> my
> work account tomorrow morning, since whoever's in charge of mail filtering
> there seems to miss a lot of stuff)
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Re: ubuntu 12.04

2012-05-12 Thread Dazed_75
Betty,
Start by telling us about this computer (Brand, Model, CPU, memory, and
video card or chip).  It might also help to know HOW you tried to install
12.04.  For example, did you use a LiveCD and if so, did it boot and work
Live?  Or did you maybe  select Install from the opening menu thereby
bypassing running it in Live mode.  If you did manage to get to a command
prompt, try lshw -short to get some of that information.

Based on that kind of information, we have a better chance of helping.  For
example, if it is a Toshiba laptop, it is likely that using apci=off,
noacpi, or nomodeset on the boot line will help

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:39 AM, betty  wrote:

> I tried to install 12.04lts on one of my computers and I can get the sign
> in at the beginning, but after i sign in the screen goes to black, if i
> click the mouse it goesto a reddish color then back to black. Tried
> re-installing, and same thing. There does not seem a way to get to the
> command line from the sign in screen either.
> Any one know what might be a fix? Should i try 11.xx instead?
> Many thanks.
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Re: HackFest Call for Recommendations

2012-05-12 Thread Dazed_75
Wow Mike.  When was that?  I have been doing Installfests virtually every
month for 7 years or so and they have all been at UAT.  I don't even know
what or where GCC is.  But really, there would be no reason to move that I
am aware of.  I just said we may be outgrowing room 208, not the facility.

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I remember my first installfest was at GCC. Why son't you go out there
> again?
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Dazed_75  wrote:
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>> As far as doing them with Installfests, I have to say that will not work
>> for now simply because we have been overfilling the room.  We may have to
>> talk to UAT about a bigger room even without the hackfesters.
>>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>>>  I have been unable to determine the status of the the MakerBench
>>> facilities, after getting a second cancellation notice from Dean Franks
>>> STACS Presentation allegedly because MakerBench was moving.  Does anyone
>>> have any information?  Calls and emails have not been successful?
>>>
>>> We have more than a few people requesting that we move the Hackfests to
>>> Phoenix.  Or coordinate them with Installfests at UAT?
>>>
>>> Please respond with what you want to see (and especially where) this
>>> next summer with PLUG Hackfests.
>>>
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Re: HackFest Call for Recommendations

2012-05-12 Thread Dazed_75
As far as doing them with Installfests, I have to say that will not work
for now simply because we have been overfilling the room.  We may have to
talk to UAT about a bigger room even without the hackfesters.

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> I have been unable to determine the status of the the MakerBench
> facilities, after getting a second cancellation notice from Dean Franks
> STACS Presentation allegedly because MakerBench was moving.  Does anyone
> have any information?  Calls and emails have not been successful?
>
> We have more than a few people requesting that we move the Hackfests to
> Phoenix.  Or coordinate them with Installfests at UAT?
>
> Please respond with what you want to see (and especially where) this next
> summer with PLUG Hackfests.
>
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Re: syslog stuff (was RE: wireless stoped working)

2012-05-10 Thread Dazed_75
Good information guys!  I knew about less decompression and use that a
lot.  I should have been clearer that the zcat usage was so I could grep
for something in a compressed (and normally large) syslog archive.

I like Rusty's explanation of logrotate because I have looked at it in the
past and could never make heads or tails of how it worked.  I knew the
basics of why it existed but not any details.  Maybe one of these days when
I have nothing else to do I will look at it again :)

Larry

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Matt Graham wrote:

> From: "Carruth, Rusty" 
> [snip logrotate info]
> > On a slightly different topic, I have found that some versions of 'less'
> > will automatically decompress compressed files to text.  Or at least,
> > one time I mistakenly said 'less /var/log/syslog*' when some of them
> > were zipped, and LO! I didn't see any binary junk - it decompressed them
> > for me.  YMMV!
>
> This is actually found in *all* versions of less, at least since 1999, but
> the
> environment variable that controls this feature isn't always set.  An older
> Ubuntu didn't set it, f'rinstance.  That's:
>
> export LESSOPEN='|lesspipe.sh %s'
>
> ...so less, when invoked, checks that LESSOPEN var and pipes files through
> /usr/bin/lesspipe.sh , which checks the filename for a metric ton of common
> patterns and attempts to invoke appropriate decompressers for those
> patterns.
> Like "bzip2 -dc" for files ending in .bz2 , "bzip2 -dc | tar tvvf -" for
> files
> ending in .tar.bz2 , and so forth.
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Re: wireless stoped working

2012-05-09 Thread Dazed_75
Its not a matter of time but of file size.  Apparently gzip has (or had)
some limitation it needed to honer before the file got to the limit.

BTW, I found the easoest way to grep for something in one of the compressed
archives was to use something like
  zcat /var/log/syslog.2.gz | grep cron | less

Larry

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Stephen  wrote:

> But you seem to have done that part allready. You can check timestamps to
> get a real sense of time logged.
> On May 8, 2012 10:44 PM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>
>> So I get it it saves a total of 8 logs 6 of which are compressed and
>> so how long is each log a record of? From my inspection of the log it seems
>> as if it covers a little more than a day. Teach mw about this! I'm all ears!
>>
>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> you guys are so helpful. Well, there is a /var/log/syslog and syslog.1
>>> but after that it is syslog.2-7.gz, not 'z'. Does that sound right? Which
>>> is the most recent?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Carruth, Rusty <
>>> rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should see syslog.0, syslog.1, etc.  (possibly with .z on the
>>>> end).  Those are your older logs.
>>>>
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Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-07 Thread Dazed_75
Interestingly, I have access to a number of laptops.  3 of those are Lenovo
G570 systems which came with Windows 7.  There have a charger mode that
turns of the charger at 80% (I think it is) and then turns it on when the
battery gets down to ~40%.

Unfortunately Ubuntu does not have such an option.  And my Lenovo x220 does
not seem to either, but it does shut off the charger when the battery
reaches 100% whether the machine is on or not.

As a general rule, I only plug in laptop chargers when needed or when I
will have it on for a long period of time or don't want the hassle of
constant screen dimming.

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I got the cheapest black friday sale laptop they had at walmart. It is a
> bitchin computer!!!
>
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, keith smith  wrote:
>
>>
>> I run 2 laptops all day - about 14 hours a day.  I pulled both
>> batteries.  They are in my desk drawer where they have been for 4+ months.
>>
>> Your saying it is better to just leave the battery in the laptop at 100%
>> than to remove it?
>>
>> I wonder what they life expectancy is?  What would be your guess?
>>
>> I never take the these two laptops off A/C.
>>
>> I when to laptops last year in the hope of less heat.   And I buy cheap
>> laptops.  Both were on sale.  Cheaper than a desktop.
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 5/6/12, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: laptop battery cycling
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>> Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012, 4:34 PM
>>
>> My VERY limited understanding is, the problem isn't "overcharging"
>> exactly.  It's that Li-Ion batteries are weird.  They last longest when
>> charged between 50% and 80% - as opposed to 100%.  But bad news:
>> maintaining the battery at a level below 20% is just as bad as keeping it
>> at 100% if not worse, so...leaving it out really isn't a good solution
>> either.
>>
>> What we REALLY need is a switch or setting in the laptop that will cause
>> a 100% charge when you know you'll need more battery life soon, otherwise
>> the default charge level is maintained at around 75%.  But that would
>> confoose too many people...might be a good FOSS project for geeks though?
>>
>> Failing that, the best solution is to leave it in there.  Yes, the
>> battery will slowly degrade.  But, at least you have protection from a
>> sudden crash if you accidentally the power plug :(.  If you can afford it,
>> run two batteries - swapping once every week or two (or however long it
>> takes for it to naturally drain to about 50%), with the one about to go on
>> the shelf being deliberately drained to about 80% first.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Robert Holtzman 
>> http://mc/compose?to=hol...@cox.net>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
>>
>> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC
>> with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery
>> capacity. This raises two questions. First, is it true that laptop
>> batteries don't have overcharge protection, and second, how many cycles
>> is a battery like mine good for?
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Re: OT : Need help with a CAPTCHA in ASP

2012-05-03 Thread Dazed_75
Please let me know what site that is so I can NEVER go there (just kidding
... maybe)

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:59 AM, keith smith  wrote:

> This is off topic.
>
> I'm helping a friend with his site written is ASP.  I'm a PHP programmer
> with limited ASP skills.  Need help configuring a CAPTCHA for his site.
>
> If you are interested let me know off list.
>
> Thank You!
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Re: Developers meeting tonight?

2012-05-03 Thread Dazed_75
Yes, Ed is going to talk about systemd. He sent an announcement but I don't
know to what group/list.
On May 3, 2012 10:22 AM, "Steven A. DuChene" 
wrote:

> Last time I drove over to UAT for a Thursday night developers meeting
> there was no meeting.
>
> Is there a Developers meeting this evening at UAT?
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Re: FREE ofx to csv file converter

2012-04-28 Thread Dazed_75
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Other-Office-Tools/OFX-Converter.shtml
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ofxconverter/

I know nothing about them.  I did not even know what a .ofx file was until
I googled it after reading your email.  I also saw a couple for Windows
though they cost $15-20 after a free trial.

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, unixprgrm...@gmail.com <
unixprgrm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> Can anyone recommend a FREE ofx to csv file converter either Linux or M$.
> I want to see if there is already a FREE one out there before writing my
> own.  I've looked extensively and cannot find a FREE one.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
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Re: wayland update

2012-04-28 Thread Dazed_75
Very promising.  X has ALWAYS been a resource pig although I have only
disappointed in performance occasionally.  My big aversion has been the
lack of remote usage which has been in X forever.  It looks like they are
addressing that so I am happy even though it seems like a lot of work
remains.

I wonder if there are any plans for Wayland to support multiple displays
like X (i.e. :0-3) or if that will be part of the mechanism to handle
multiple monitors.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:15 PM, der.hans  wrote:

> moin moin,
>
> I've been mostly ignoring wayland because it's way out there until it's
> ready.
>
> I found this lwn article to be informative and worth reading. Still a ways
> to go, but it looks like they've got most of the key components in place.
>
> https://lwn.net/Articles/**491509/ <https://lwn.net/Articles/491509/>
>
> 10k lines of code to replace half a million lines got my attention :).
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: Ubuntu 12.04 and unity.

2012-04-12 Thread Dazed_75
MichaelB, what release are you running?  I've installed something like 8
Desktop Managers (DMs) on my ubuntu 11.10.  I did this for a presentation I
did on installing additional DMs.

The problems I've seen are a few extra programs installed for the
lightweight DMs, I now get the xubuntu splash at some time in startup and
shutdown regardless of which DM I actually use, and some of the DMs don't
play well with older projectors.  Cinnamon works great.

This thread is really about 12.04 and I have not tried these things on
12.04.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Michael Butash  wrote:

> I wish that were the case for me - gnome3 won't even launch with multiple
> framebuffers requiring me to drop to a tty and restart lightdm to choose
> something else.  Cinnamon is broken on the same display as well.  Sadly
> with the "new desktops", unity works the best, which isn't saying much in
> the least.  It's like 2005 all over again, hacking entirely around ui
> short-sightedness.
>
> At this point the only thing gnome-ish left I can use is gedit and
> gnome-terminal, even nautilus is still broken on multiple displays. Other
> than that, avant-window-navigator and cairo-dock provide all my task and
> tray management.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 04/11/2012 09:56 PM, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Well while i may hate unity, getting gnome2/3 working is a cakewalk
>> now. install the one you want. logout and pick the one you want.
>>
>> you do end up wasting space with unity still installed, but at least it
>> works.
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Re: ssh in network

2012-04-03 Thread Dazed_75
and yet your previous message was that you discovered it was not installed
on the laptop.  Hence my reminder that it needs to be on any box you want
to ssh TO.  [?]

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> server is installed on all of them.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> server needs to be installed on any and all machines you want to ssh TO.
>> Server is the component/daemon that listens for a request to connect.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> guess what I just found out openssh-server wasn't installed  on the
>>> laptop. So I installed it and now  netstat has the same line on it that
>>> says port 22
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: ssh in network

2012-04-02 Thread Dazed_75
server needs to be installed on any and all machines you want to ssh TO.
Server is the component/daemon that listens for a request to connect.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> guess what I just found out openssh-server wasn't installed  on the
> laptop. So I installed it and now  netstat has the same line on it that
> says port 22
>
>
>   sudo netstat -antp | grep 22
>   tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  433/sshd
>
> However, I still can't ssh to the ubuntu. But I scan ssh from  the ubuntu
> to the mint. Yipee!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Lisa Kachold 
>> wrote:
>> >Are you colorblind?
>> ^-- only slightly
>>
>> >respond inline.
>>
>> ^---not sure what you mean.
>>
>> >Let's address each item until we resolve things:
>>On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>> >>>A route add command is not persistent past a reboot or network restart.
>> >>It seems to have been. I rebooted and still can't ssh from the laptop
>> to the ubuntu.
>> >But you couldn't also ssh BEFORE you did the route add so these are two
>> different things.
>> Yes I could. I could ssh from the laptop to the ubuntu (printserver)
>> until I issued the command ' sudo ip route add 
>> 192.168.1.0/24<http://192.168.0.1/24>dev eth0' on the ubuntu on the advice 
>> of my google search. Then I tried to
>> delete it and add the proper route (192.168.0.1) but that didn't help any.
>>
>> >Take down your wlan (are you using wicd?)
>>
>> ^---Wireless is now off. I don't know what Mint uses... it
>> doesn't say.
>> >>>Verify that both boxes have a listening ssh daemon:
>>
>> >># sudo netstat -antp | grep 22
>>
>> >>tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*
>> LISTEN  433/sshd
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:139 0.0.0.0:*
>> LISTEN  12243/smbd
>>
>> >>tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:*
>> LISTEN  12243/smbd
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >Good you have sshd listening on port 22 on ubuntu.
>>
>> >You do NOT have sshd (daemon) listening on your laptop.
>>
>> >Be sure you have started it if you want to ssh to the laptop from ubuntu:
>>
>> ># sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
>>
>> >In order to make sure ssh starts at boot in Ubuntu:
>>
>> ># sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults <-done
>>
>> >Reference:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
>>
>> >>Make sure you haven't installed DenyHosts or iptables that limits your
>> connections:
>>
>> >># locate Deny |more
>>
>> >># sudo iptables-save |more
>>
>> >sudo locate Deny|more <--no respose
>>
>> >sudo locate iptables-save|more
>>
>> >/sbin/iptables-save
>>
>> >/usr/share/man/man8/iptables-save.8.gz
>>
>> >enter
>>
>> ># sudo iptables-save
>>
>> >You are looking to see if your iptables is up and configured to firewall
>> ssh.  Dump the response in here.
>>
>>  bmike1@Michaels-PC:~$ sudo locate iptables-save
>> /sbin/iptables-save
>> /usr/share/man/man8/iptables-save.8.gz
>> bmike1@Michaels-PC:~$
>>
>>
>> >Oops, sorry wrong link! ddclient is for opendns dynamic dns entries,
>> that logs into your provider and resets a public ip when needed.  Turn it
>> down for now:*
>> # sudo /etc/init.d/ddclient stop*
>>
>> ^-done
>>
>>
>> >Here's how to set it up (once you get ssh setup); it requires an opendns
>> account.
>> >http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264710
>> <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264710>
>>  ^--if you can remember please remind me 
>> later<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264710>
>>
>>  <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264710>
>> >your system is updated, if it runs?  Correct?
>> ^ Correct
>>
>> >Check your /etc/nsswitch.conf file to be sure it has
>> >"hosts: files dns" Reference:
>> http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap6sec71.html
>> I'm not sure what you want here. Here is the file

Re: ssh in network

2012-03-30 Thread Dazed_75
Make that:
Try "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Mike Ballon  wrote:

> I spun up an ubuntu-desktop VM. At least the desktop distro does not
> have sshd installed.
>
> Try "sudo apt-get install openssh--server"
>
> I also noticed the ubuntu doesn't use v5 init scripts so I guess it's
> "service ssh start", although after I installed it with the apt
> command above it was already running.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> > Thanks for the help Mike. But it didn't work.
> >
> >  bmike1@Michaels-PC:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
> >  sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
> >
> > I'm pretty dure that is because openssh-server Doesn't seem to be
> installed.
> > I tried installing it but it won't install. I think it because it can't
> > remove
> >
> >  linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic
> >  linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic
> >  linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Mike Ballon 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't have an ubuntu box to show output exactly, hopefully this will
> >> get you what you need just the same...
> >>
> >> type "netstat -a | grep ssh" on the print server host, you should get
> >> something like this:
> >>
> >> tcp0  0 *:ssh   *:*
> >> LISTEN
> >>
> >> If you don't see the output above, then ssh is not listen and you'll
> >> need to type "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start"
> >>
> >> Try the netstat command again...
> >>
> >> If, in the first time running netstat you DID see the output, check
> >> your firewall by typing "sudo /sbin/iptables -L | grep ssh", you
> >> should see something like this:
> >>
> >> ACCEPT tcp  --  10.0.0.0/8   anywherestate NEW
> >> tcp dpt:ssh
> >>
> >> If all that is correct the last thing to check is tcp wrappers, which
> >> probably are not as common as you once where, just cat out
> >> /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny for any related content.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
> >> > Okay I figured out why the virtual (debian) couldn't ssh to the
> host
> >> > (mint). I didn't have openssh-server installed in the mint. Now they
> are
> >> > talking with each other nicely! Unfortunately I can't go from the
> either
> >> > of
> >> > those to the print-server (ubuntu). The errors given from both
> computers
> >> > is
> >> > 'connection timed out'.
> >> > I can ssh from the ubuntu to  to the debian and the mint with no
> >> > problem.
> >> > When I verified that openssh-server was installed on the ubuntu with
> apt
> >> > it
> >> > said:
> >> >
> >> >  openssh-server is already the newest version.
> >> >  openssh-server set to manually installed.
> >> >
> >> > So I'm not too sure what that means. I think that is saying that the
> >> > downloaddd package is the newest version but it isn't installed! If
> I'm
> >> > correect on that point how do I install it and another question I have
> >> > is
> >> > how do I get it to load on boot? I think that installing it will take
> >> > care
> >> > of that but I just want to make sure.
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Re: sound stopped working

2012-03-29 Thread Dazed_75
Yes, when I accidently clicked on the video that was playing.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> but it was working. did your sound just stop working?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> I have that problem with the LinuxActionShow.  I always figured it was a
>> problem with the video itself. or with the player being used by the
>> browser.  Its never been enough of a problem to warrant the time to find a
>> solution.  If I were to do so, I would try it on Chrome and I would try it
>> on a different distribution as well as on Windows as a first step.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>>> I was watching a video and everything was great. Then I accidently
>>> clicked on the screen and the sound quit working and I couldn't get it to
>>> work again. I tried with the mint system  settings and I tried with alsa
>>> mixer but nothing worked. In my googling I found the suggestion to add
>>> 'options snd-hda-intel model=generic' to alsa-base.conf but that didn't
>>> help any. The sound kinda works because the system alert noise (I have it
>>> set to bark) sounds.
>>>
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Re: sound stopped working

2012-03-29 Thread Dazed_75
I have that problem with the LinuxActionShow.  I always figured it was a
problem with the video itself. or with the player being used by the
browser.  Its never been enough of a problem to warrant the time to find a
solution.  If I were to do so, I would try it on Chrome and I would try it
on a different distribution as well as on Windows as a first step.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I was watching a video and everything was great. Then I accidently clicked
> on the screen and the sound quit working and I couldn't get it to work
> again. I tried with the mint system  settings and I tried with alsa mixer
> but nothing worked. In my googling I found the suggestion to add 'options
> snd-hda-intel model=generic' to alsa-base.conf but that didn't help any.
> The sound kinda works because the system alert noise (I have it set to
> bark) sounds.
>
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Re: gparted - how to move a partition? SOLVED

2012-03-11 Thread Dazed_75
Cool!  I am glad it worked for you.  I know I have done it in the past and
I was pretty sure I used gparted to do it.  I do not recall if I did it by
changing the numbers in the dialog or by dragging the handle at on end of
the graphical representation of the partition.  gParted is a pretty nice
too;.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM,  wrote:

>
> Thanks Larry.  Finally got it to work.
>
> It took a while to figure out how to actually do that maximizing
> of the complete sda2 partition as I got an error and it failed
> the first few times I tried it. (See Brian's comment further below).
>
> But then I tried "maximizing" to only about 95% of what I thought
> was available free space, and then it worked.
>
> Joe
>
> ---
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> > - Select /dev/sda2 (the extended partition) and either maximize
> >   its size (it can only grow to the left) or move it to the left
> >   and then grow it to its maximum size
> >   (whichever gparted will let you do)
>
> * [Joe observed: This was an important key] *
>
> > - select /dev/sda5 and move it to the left
> > - select /dev/sda6 and move it to the left
> > - select /dev/sda7 and either maximize its size (it can only grow to the
> >   left) or move it to the left and then grow it to its maximum size
> > By the way, I would Apply Changes after each step as a precaution.
> > I've had much more success that way.
>
> --
> Brian Parma last wrote:
> > Oddly enough I was trying to do just this today.  I kept getting
> > errors about not being able to modify my extended partition.
> >
> > In the end, I just used fsarchiver to backup the partition(s),
> > destroyed them, recreated them the way I wanted them on the disk,
> > then restored them again with fsarchiver.
>
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Re: gparted - how to move a partition?

2012-03-10 Thread Dazed_75
   - Select /dev/sda2 (the extended partition) and either maximize its size
   (it can only grow to the left) or move it to the left and then grow it to
   its maximum size (whichever gparted will let you do)
   - select /dev/sda5 and move it to the left
   - select /dev/sda6 and move it to the left
   - select /dev/sda7 and either maximize its size (it can only grow to the
   left) or move it to the left and then grow it to its maximum size

By the way, I would Apply Changes after each step as a precaution.  I've
had much more success that way.

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM,  wrote:

>
> Thanks for your response ... but I still don't understand
> how to proceed.  I've replaced the previous screen capture
> with one that is clearer and more readable:
>
> http://upquick.com/temp/gparted.jpg
>
> > Hard to say exactly with the screenshot so fuzzy, but it appears you have
> > selected the first partition INSIDE the extended/logical partition area.
> > You can't move it to the left without first resizing the logical
> partition
> > (presumably back to right after the exd of the only primary position).
> > Then you should be able to move the first partition in the extended
> space.
>
> How can I resize the logical partition?
> I need to move everything except the first partition to the left
> to make room to increase the size of the last partition on the right.
>
>
> --
> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM,  wrote:
> >> I have used gparted to resize/shrink two partitions to free up space
> >> so that I can (I hope) increase the size of one partition that has
> >> run out of space. But I cannot figure out how to move the resized
> >> partitions into the free space that I have opened up so that I can
> >> increase the size of the partition that needs to be larger.
> >>
> >> Sorry this camera screen shot is so blurry, but I could not get the
> >> screen capture on the gparted live CD to work.
> >>
> >> - - - http://upquick.com/temp/gparted.jpg
> >>
> >> What is the secret to moving partitions?
>
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Re: gparted - how to move a partition?

2012-03-10 Thread Dazed_75
Hard to say exactly with the screenshot so fuzzy, but it appears you have
selected the first partition INSIDE the extended/logical partition area.
You can't move it to the left without first resizing the logical partition
(presumably back to right after the exd of the only primatry position).
Then you should be able to move the first partition in the extended space.

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM,  wrote:

>
> I have used gparted to resize/shrink two partitions to free up space
> so that I can (I hope) increase the size of one partition that has
> run out of space. But I cannot figure out how to move the resized
> partitions into the free space that I have opened up so that I can
> increase the size of the partition that needs to be larger.
>
> Sorry this camera screen shot is so blurry, but I could not get the
> screen capture on the gparted live CD to work.
>
> - - - http://upquick.com/temp/gparted.jpg
>
> What is the secret to moving partitions?
>
>
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DIY Password Generator

2012-03-08 Thread Dazed_75
I thought someone here might be interested in this.  Had I a need I would
definitely build one.

http://www.howtogeek.com/107657/build-a-usb-password-key-to-automatically-login-to-your-computer
http://codeandlife.com/2012/03/03/diy-usb-password-generator/

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Re: Seeking a concise Linux installation checklist

2012-02-27 Thread Dazed_75
Joe,
Virtually all distros want a separate and specific partition for swap
formatted as swap.

Virtually all distros allow you to put everything else in a single
partition although there are reasons why you might want to break that up
into 2 or more partitions (and lots of people will give you differing
advice.  Personally, I choose to use one partition for / and the bulk of
available space for /home.

The above assumes you want to do your partitioning manually.  While you
could do that prior to installation, you can also do it during
installation.  If you do it prior to installation, please note that you
will still need to specify how you are using the partitions (mount points)
during the installation

If you want to let the distro automatically do the partitioning, then you
should not create any partitions prior to installation.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:23 PM,  wrote:

>
> Thanks Stephen.  I did download the gparted live iso and used it to shrink
> the ntfs partition. Then I created two new partitions, one for 40-gig and
> one for 80-gig.  But when I started to install the first new Linux distro
> from a live Linux CD into the first new 40-gig partition, I couldn't tell
> if it was going to allow me to create the separate partitions for swap,
> root, and home inside that 40-gig partition that I had created (and then
> later do the same for a second Linux distro into the other 80-gig
> partition that I created).  So, I now wonder if I need to do this over and
> create 6 new partitions instead of just 2 in order to be able to install
> two Linux distros into a triple-boot arrangement.
>
> I have tried a mint live CD in the past and liked some things about it.
> So, I wonder if I could or should create 9 new partitions in order to add
> it also and create a quad-boot?
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
> > First thing I would do is get familiar with clonezilla and the gparted
> > live CD. That will give yo a means of recovery and a means of partition
> > editing. Once you have the partitions in place you can the do some
> > reading on grub/grub2. But in all honesty I have had great success with
> > mint/ubuntu and virtualbox and I like the debian package management.
> > But most here are likely to use vm's over triple booting so we would
> > have good advice I'm doubting that we have a walkthrough handy.
> >
> > That being said you can probably search the internet and find what you
> are
> > looking for. And I would be willing to give you what advice I can.
> > On Feb 26, 2012 3:57 PM,  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Even after having done several Linux installations (some a lot more
> >> challenging than others), I am still a bit intimidated by it.
> >>
> >> Now, I'm about to undertake another and I hope the PLUG brain trust can
> >> provide some guidance, perhaps a concise installation checklist for this
> >> next attempt.  I have a box with win-xp installed on a 100-gig HD and I
> >> need the following:
> >>
> >> 1. How (most efficiently) to shrink and repartition for a dual boot with
> >> xp on perhaps 20 gig and the rest for installing two Linux distros.
> >>
> >> 2. I've installed PCLinuxOS several times and I (by far) prefer the
> >> older
> >> version with KDE 3.5, so I want to put it on one set of partitions using
> >> about 20-gig.
> >>
> >> 3. On the rest, I want to install whatever Redhat based distro might
> >> work
> >> best with Virtual Box (which I have never been able to get to work
> >> before).
> >> Some have recommended Cent OS (I've been told that there is a KDE 3.5
> >> version available).
> >>
> >> Any guidance to make this as concise, easy, and efficient as possible
> >> for
> >> a 20-year perpetual "newbie" user would be extremely appreciated. ;)
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Re: OT: (or is it?) Motorola Xoom

2012-02-15 Thread Dazed_75
I have an ASUS Prime Transformer 2.  I have not yet gotten the ICS
upgrade.  I like it as far as it goes but I think it is just not my cup of
tea so I don't use it that much.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:

>
> Do any members of this esteemed group happen to have a Motorola Xoom
> tablet?
>
> (Or, what other types of tablets do you have? -- Android or iPad?)
>
> I recently purchased a used iPad-1 and found it too restricting, so I
> started researching tablets for quite a while, and finally settled on the
> Xoom (in part because I found one at a really good price on Craigslist).
>
> So, I'd like to learn from and compare notes with any other pluggers that
> have one.  FWIW: started keeping some preliminary tablet notes here:
>
> http://www.upquick.com/simple/android.htm
>
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Re: entering command in nautilus

2012-01-26 Thread Dazed_75
I generally install nautilus-terminal to give me a terminal built-in to
nautilus.  Extremely handy.  Here are the instructions from my changelog:

 Added nautilus terminal (terminal within a nautilus window) as shown on
http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/nautilus-terminal-embeds-terminal-into.htmland
http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/nautilus-embedded-terminal-gets.html using:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:flozz/flozzsudo apt-get updatesudo apt-get
install nautilus-terminalnautilus -q




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> Backtrack lacks a lot of the user-friendly functionality that you would
> get with a standard Ubuntu distribution. Because Backtrack is often used as
> a live distribution, the focus is on keeping it as lean as possible.
> Synaptic should be on board, though.
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Re: tablet for SCaLE trip?

2012-01-17 Thread Dazed_75
I have a Transformer Hans.  I will bring to to Stammtische tonight so you
can look it over. I have no idea whether Cyanogen is working on modding
it.  I do know someone has ported an earlier version of ubuntu to run on it
but the article said it was not complete and they had no idea about a newer
ubuntu.

Todd says the Ubuntu Tablet is doing nothing but talking so I don't look
for anything from there anytime soon.

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> Am 16. Jan, 2012 schwätzte Stephen so:
>
> moin moin,
>
>
>  Well Honestly the 3 Tabs oficially on the Cyanogenmod site are the
>> Advent Vega (also known as P10AN01), Nook Color (aka Encore), the HP
>> Touchpad, and the ViewSonic G Tablet.
>>
>
> Hmm, I'd forgotten about ViewSonic having an Android device.
>
>
>  The 2 of those i would suggest would be the B&N and the Viewsonic
>> Gtab, they are both very nice physically, and the Gtab has identical
>> specs and performance to the Galaxy tab. I haven't looked to see if
>> any of those are doing the M$ licencing or not.
>>
>
> "Experience the Freedom of Android" is the tagline on the ViewSonic
> product page, so I hope there's no m$ tax involved :). I'll sniff around
> for that.
>
>
>  I actually want either one of those :-)
>>
>
> Some day my wife will let me play with the Nook Tablet and I can get a
> feel for it.
>
> Not seeing anything about the ViewSonic device and bricks and mortors
> stores, so that might have to wait. Just found another Viewsonic tablet,
> but for $700. Viewsonic - ViewPad 10pro 10.1" LED 32 GB Tablet Computer -
> Wi-Fi - Intel Atom Z670 1.50 GHz
>
> Hmm, Asus Eee Pad Transformer might be available. That's an interesting
> option. Foolish store is offering m$ office coupon with it.
>
> There's also the Toshiba Thrive.
>
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: Intriguing Education Project

2012-01-14 Thread Dazed_75
Pretty good but having some pain between my shoulder blades and now up the
back of my neck on one side so I am wondering how I am sleeping wrong.

But I have no idea what you are talking about as far as incorrectly
configured ads since I see no problems at all.  I was only referring to the
contect of the article as being an interesting project I thought other
folks mught be interested in..

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> Hi Larry,
>
> How are you?
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> Article and a video
>>
>> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Marvell-SMILE-Plug/?kc=rss
>>
>> [NoScript XSS] Sanitized suspicious request. Original URL [
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/entzd.linuxdevices/desktop;pos=top;dcopt=ist;zdid=a221772;tile=1;sz=170x60;ord=%3Cscript=JavaScript%3Edocument.write(Math.round(Math.random()*100));%3C/script%3E<http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/entzd.linuxdevices/desktop;pos=top;dcopt=ist;zdid=a221772;tile=1;sz=170x60;ord=%3Cscript=JavaScript%3Edocument.write%28Math.round%28Math.random%28%29*100%29%29;%3C/script%3E>?]
> requested from [
> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Marvell-SMILE-Plug/?kc=rss].
> Sanitized URL: [
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/entzd.linuxdevices/desktop;pos=top;dcopt=ist;zdid=a221772;tile=1;sz=170x60;ord=%3Cscript=JavaScript%3Edocument.write(Math.round(Math.random()*100));%3C/script%3E?<http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/entzd.linuxdevices/desktop;pos=top;dcopt=ist;zdid=a221772;tile=1;sz=170x60;ord=%3Cscript=JavaScript%3Edocument.write%28Math.round%28Math.random%28%29*100%29%29;%3C/script%3E?>
> ].
>
> Looks like incorrectly configured ads?
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Intriguing Education Project

2012-01-13 Thread Dazed_75
Article and a video

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Marvell-SMILE-Plug/?kc=rss

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Re: What is the presentation for Thursday PLUGeast?

2012-01-11 Thread Dazed_75
I will be doing a presentation on Editing Video with OpenShot.  Brian will
do one of his Inkscape or Blender shorts as well as a demonstration of
linking selected PLUG calendar events and repeats to your personal calendar.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Ed  wrote:

> Didn't see an announcement on the site, just wondering
>
> Ed
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Re: ride sharing to SCaLE

2012-01-09 Thread Dazed_75
I am flying again.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:34 AM, der.hans  wrote:

> moin moin,
>
> SCaLE is less than 2 weeks away.
>
> Who is going?
>
> Who is interested in ride-sharing?
>
> I believe Dennis has tracked a train route out of Flagstaff.
>
> SCaLE is at LAX, so flying gets you right there as well.
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: Looking for Laptop Recommendations

2011-12-31 Thread Dazed_75
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Robert Holtzman  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 09:43:19AM -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> > I would think she should have at least 2 GB memory for that so the VM
> could
> > have 1 GB.  I'd also like to see at least a core 2 duo for better
> > virtualization support and reduced power needs.
> >
> > I happened to be at ASU Surplus (SE corner of 101 and Rio Salato) the
> other
> > day.  I was not looking for a laptop, but I saw they had a number of
> > laptops including a Dell Latitude D610 or D620.  I did not look to see
> what
> > any of them had.
>
> Any idea (in general) what shape laptops from there would be in? I
> imagine they might be pretty well beat. Notice any prices?
>

I really didn't notice much about them.  Which also means they did not look
beat up.  Sorry, I was there to look at something else which happened to be
on the next table and which turned out to be overpriced IMHO.

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Re: Looking for Laptop Recommendations

2011-12-31 Thread Dazed_75
I would think she should have at least 2 GB memory for that so the VM could
have 1 GB.  I'd also like to see at least a core 2 duo for better
virtualization support and reduced power needs.

I happened to be at ASU Surplus (SE corner of 101 and Rio Salato) the other
day.  I was not looking for a laptop, but I saw they had a number of
laptops including a Dell Latitude D610 or D620.  I did not look to see what
any of them had.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Mark Phillips
wrote:

> My daughter needs a "new" laptop for high school. It needs to run Debian
> or Ubunrtu and have enough horsepower to run Windows XP in VMware Player
> for iTunes. A refurbished machine is OK. I am mostly interested in what you
> would recommend as minimum hardware specs (processor 7 RAM) for this
> configuration. Also, if you have another suggestion for running Linux and
> iTunes, I am all ears! ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
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Re: sorting 512.192 emails

2011-12-30 Thread Dazed_75
Might
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=487246c51f78db43&hl=enhelp?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Technomage Hawke <
technomage.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> well,
> I just spent a better part of 18 hours trying to cull out the ever
> expanding girth of my email accounts. in that 19 hours, I reduced the all
> mail folder by 259,213 emails using the only web interface that has no
> tools for the blind in it. its not like I want to keep all that email. it
> was starting to take so much space that I was getting nasty grains from
> google about it.
>
> the lesson here: go through your mail folders and clean them up. it is
> rather fast how much that 1,000+ mails a day can clog up the works.
>
> now I have to invent a better way to do this.
>
> -eric
>
> oh, and merry christmas, happy new year and all the other holidays in
> between.
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Re: no admin privileges for ubuntu 11.10

2011-12-30 Thread Dazed_75
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Re: New UPS

2011-12-21 Thread Dazed_75
Actually, I thought I had as one of the variations I tried googling.  Must
not have though as I see those results are mostly Matt Behrens asking the
same questions on a number of sites.  Still, it looks like people believe
it should work using nut.  I'll give that a try.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dale Farnsworth wrote:

> Have you tried googling the therms "Tripp lite G1010USB ubuntu".  From
> the results, it looks like it is supported and there are utilities for
> you to determine status.  Disclaimer: I have no personal experience with
> this.
>
> -Dale
>
> > Yep, that is my experience as well.  Back in the day, one needed to
> install
> > software on the OS to process those notifications.  I believe [hope] some
> > of those are built-ins based on standards.
> >
> > I know for sure that Ubuntu still has apcupsd in the repositories (and
> > still installed from my previous UPS) to support some? APC UPS devices
> and
> > powstatd for some Cyberpower units, one TrippLite model and "various
> older
> > APC units".  There is also nut ("Network UPS Tools (NUT) is a
> client/server
> > monitoring system that allows computers to share uninterruptible power
> > supply (UPS) and power distribution unit (PDU) hardware. ").
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kevin Fries 
> wrote:
> >
> > > At least in any commercial operation I have worked in, this is the way
> > > that it worked:
> > >
> > >  * power comes in from the wall to the unit
> > >  * the unit then supplies power to the computer via the battery
> > >
> > > This way, when there is a power failure, there is no loss of power to
> > > the device.  Generally most UPS units I have worked with, have
> protected
> > > and unprotected ports.  Therefore, if anything is plugged into the
> > > unprotected ports, those devices will simply shut down on power loss.
> > >
> > > On loss of power from the wall, power is continued to be supplied to
> the
> > > protected devices until the battery power level drops below some value.
> > > On higher end units, this value is configurable, on cheaper units, it
> is
> > > prefixed at time of manufacture.  Once the power level drops to the
> > > critical level, it will then signal the protected device that its
> > > shutdown is eminent, allowing the software to begin an orderly shutdown
> > > of its own.
> > >
> > > I have even seen some high end units, have a two level protection,
> where
> > > it will first signal that it is on battery allowing for dropping of cpu
> > > power levels, dimming displays, and stuff like that.  It does that in
> an
> > > attempt to extend the battery life as long as possible.
> > >
> > > Only on the cheapest of units should a UPS begin an immediate shutdown,
> > > and that is because it does not have the AMPs to last very long, so any
> > > loss of wall power puts the unit into a critical configuration
> > > immediately.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps
> > > Kevin Fries
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 11:03 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Lyle Tuttle 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > At 10:36 AM 12/21/2011, Dazed_75 wrote:
> > > > > The manufacturer states rather strongly that unplugging the
> > > > > UPS is a BAD way to test it since that also removes the
> > > > > ground circuit.  So far, my best idea is to go out to the
> > > > > electrical box and flip the relevant circuit breaker off.
> > > > >
> > > > > The point though, is even that only tests the UPS.  I would
> > > > > need to leave it off long enough for the UPS to request
> (via
> > > > > that USB cable) that the computer do an orderly shutdown
> > > > > which could take 30 minutes or more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Whoa!
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is that when a power failure occurs, the UPS
> > > > takes over supplying power immediately - and also signals the
> > > > system to shut down in an orderly fashionthe 30 minutes
> > > > you mention, IMHO, deals with the amount of time the UPS
> would
> > > > run the system if it did not shut down
> > > >
> 

Re: New UPS

2011-12-21 Thread Dazed_75
Yep, that is my experience as well.  Back in the day, one needed to install
software on the OS to process those notifications.  I believe [hope] some
of those are built-ins based on standards.

I know for sure that Ubuntu still has apcupsd in the repositories (and
still installed from my previous UPS) to support some? APC UPS devices and
powstatd for some Cyberpower units, one TrippLite model and "various older
APC units".  There is also nut ("Network UPS Tools (NUT) is a client/server
monitoring system that allows computers to share uninterruptible power
supply (UPS) and power distribution unit (PDU) hardware. ").

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kevin Fries  wrote:

> At least in any commercial operation I have worked in, this is the way
> that it worked:
>
>  * power comes in from the wall to the unit
>  * the unit then supplies power to the computer via the battery
>
> This way, when there is a power failure, there is no loss of power to
> the device.  Generally most UPS units I have worked with, have protected
> and unprotected ports.  Therefore, if anything is plugged into the
> unprotected ports, those devices will simply shut down on power loss.
>
> On loss of power from the wall, power is continued to be supplied to the
> protected devices until the battery power level drops below some value.
> On higher end units, this value is configurable, on cheaper units, it is
> prefixed at time of manufacture.  Once the power level drops to the
> critical level, it will then signal the protected device that its
> shutdown is eminent, allowing the software to begin an orderly shutdown
> of its own.
>
> I have even seen some high end units, have a two level protection, where
> it will first signal that it is on battery allowing for dropping of cpu
> power levels, dimming displays, and stuff like that.  It does that in an
> attempt to extend the battery life as long as possible.
>
> Only on the cheapest of units should a UPS begin an immediate shutdown,
> and that is because it does not have the AMPs to last very long, so any
> loss of wall power puts the unit into a critical configuration
> immediately.
>
> Hope that helps
> Kevin Fries
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 11:03 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Lyle Tuttle 
> > wrote:
> > At 10:36 AM 12/21/2011, Dazed_75 wrote:
> > > The manufacturer states rather strongly that unplugging the
> > > UPS is a BAD way to test it since that also removes the
> > > ground circuit.  So far, my best idea is to go out to the
> > > electrical box and flip the relevant circuit breaker off.
> > >
> > > The point though, is even that only tests the UPS.  I would
> > > need to leave it off long enough for the UPS to request (via
> > > that USB cable) that the computer do an orderly shutdown
> > > which could take 30 minutes or more.
> >
> >
> > Whoa!
> >
> > My understanding is that when a power failure occurs, the UPS
> > takes over supplying power immediately - and also signals the
> > system to shut down in an orderly fashionthe 30 minutes
> > you mention, IMHO, deals with the amount of time the UPS would
> > run the system if it did not shut down
> >
> > Good point although I don't think it should immediately tell the
> > computer to shut down either.  What the manual says is "can connect
> > your UPS to a computer in order to automatically save open files and
> > shut down the computer if it is left unattended during an extended
> > power failure" (emphasis added).  This makes me think the notification
> > would be issued by the UPS after battery power dropped to some level
> > or estimated time remaining since the OS would have no clue how much
> > battery time remained.
> >
> > - on my system, by utilizing various power outlets on the UPS,
> > I can somewhat control WHAT components shut down right away.
> >
> > What if you plug the UPS into a switchable power strip - then
> > turn it off?
> >
> >
> > Another good point, that should retain the ground connection.  Eric
> > made the same suggestion.
> >
> >
> > >  And worse, I would not know if a non-event meant a failure
> > > on the part of the UPS signaling system or the Linux side
> > > not making use of the signal event since I still have no
> > > idea what to check for.
> > >
> > > I bring all this

Re: New UPS

2011-12-21 Thread Dazed_75
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Lyle Tuttle  wrote:

>  At 10:36 AM 12/21/2011, Dazed_75 wrote:
>
> The manufacturer states rather strongly that unplugging the UPS is a BAD
> way to test it since that also removes the ground circuit.  So far, my best
> idea is to go out to the electrical box and flip the relevant circuit
> breaker off.
>
> The point though, is even that only tests the UPS.  I would need to leave
> it off long enough for the UPS to request (via that USB cable) that the
> computer do an orderly shutdown which could take 30 minutes or more.
>
>
> Whoa!
>
> My understanding is that when a power failure occurs, the UPS takes over
> supplying power immediately - and also signals the system to shut down in
> an orderly fashionthe 30 minutes you mention, IMHO, deals with the
> amount of time the UPS would run the system if it did not shut down
>

Good point although I don't think it should immediately tell the computer
to shut down either.  What the manual says is "can connect your UPS to a
computer in order to automatically save open files and shut down the
computer if it is left unattended *during an extended power failure*"
(emphasis added).  This makes me think the notification would be issued by
the UPS after battery power dropped to some level or estimated time
remaining since the OS would have no clue how much battery time remained.


> - on my system, by utilizing various power outlets on the UPS, I can
> somewhat control WHAT components shut down right away.
>
> *What if you plug the UPS into a switchable power strip - then turn it
> off?
> *
>

Another good point, that should retain the ground connection.  Eric made
the same suggestion.

> *
> *
>
>  And worse, I would not know if a non-event meant a failure on the part of
> the UPS signaling system or the Linux side not making use of the signal
> event since I still have no idea what to check for.
>
> I bring all this up because my last UPS failed to protect the computer so
> now I am paranoid about it.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Alex Dean  wrote:
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:
>
> > I just put in a replacement UPS (Tripp-Lite G1010USB) and connected the
> USB cable.  I see that Ubuntu 10.04 does see it but I have no idea how to
> tell if it will actually pay attention if the UPS ever tells it to shut
> down.  Short of a power failure, how can one know?
>
> Unplug the UPS from the wall?
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Re: New UPS

2011-12-21 Thread Dazed_75
The manufacturer states rather strongly that unplugging the UPS is a BAD
way to test it since that also removes the ground circuit.  So far, my best
idea is to go out to the electrical box and flip the relevant circuit
breaker off.

The point though, is even that only tests the UPS.  I would need to leave
it off long enough for the UPS to request (via that USB cable) that the
computer do an orderly shutdown which could take 30 minutes or more.  And
worse, I would not know if a non-event meant a failure on the part of the
UPS signaling system or the Linux side not making use of the signal event
since I still have no idea what to check for.

I bring all this up because my last UPS failed to protect the computer so
now I am paranoid about it.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Alex Dean  wrote:

>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:
>
> > I just put in a replacement UPS (Tripp-Lite G1010USB) and connected the
> USB cable.  I see that Ubuntu 10.04 does see it but I have no idea how to
> tell if it will actually pay attention if the UPS ever tells it to shut
> down.  Short of a power failure, how can one know?
>
> Unplug the UPS from the wall?
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New UPS

2011-12-21 Thread Dazed_75
I just put in a replacement UPS (Tripp-Lite G1010USB) and connected the USB
cable.  I see that Ubuntu 10.04 does see it but I have no idea how to tell
if it will actually pay attention if the UPS ever tells it to shut down.
Short of a power failure, how can one know?

Here is what lsusb says about it:

> larry@triggerfish:~$ sudo lsusb -v -s 6:3
> [sudo] password for larry:
>
> Bus 006 Device 003: ID 09ae:2010 Tripp Lite
> Device Descriptor:
>   bLength18
>   bDescriptorType 1
>   bcdUSB   1.10
>   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
>   bDeviceSubClass 0
>   bDeviceProtocol 0
>   bMaxPacketSize0 8
>   idVendor   0x09ae Tripp Lite
>   idProduct  0x2010
>   bcdDevice0.07
>   iManufacturer   1 Tripp Lite
>   iProduct2 Tripp Lite UPS
>   iSerial 0
>   bNumConfigurations  1
>   Configuration Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 2
> wTotalLength   34
> bNumInterfaces  1
> bConfigurationValue 1
> iConfiguration  0
> bmAttributes 0xe0
>   Self Powered
>   Remote Wakeup
> MaxPower0mA
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber0
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   1
>   bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
>   bInterfaceSubClass  0 No Subclass
>   bInterfaceProtocol  0 None
>   iInterface  0
> HID Device Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType33
>   bcdHID   1.10
>   bCountryCode0 Not supported
>   bNumDescriptors 1
>   bDescriptorType34 Report
>   wDescriptorLength 613
>  Report Descriptors:
>** UNAVAILABLE **
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
> bmAttributes3
>   Transfer TypeInterrupt
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0008  1x 8 bytes
> bInterval  40
> Device Status: 0x0001
>   Self Powered
> larry@triggerfish:~$
>

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Re: remotely controlling your computer

2011-12-14 Thread Dazed_75
Why do you always do things the hard way.  No need to compile from source.
In Linux one of the forms will be in your repository.  For Windows,
download the installer.

But yes, the source will be quite small to download if you really want it.
I would have no idea where to find the makefile and such as I have never
had any reason to be concerned about the source.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion to use tightvnc. I've heard of them. I
> downloaded the source and I need to ask.. where is the makefile and all
> the stuff needed to compile it? You know... I'm uneasy about the download.
> It only ran for  a second or so. Does that sound right?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> VNC is pretty handy for such things though you may need to set up VPN and
>> SSH to do it securely from the internet (read the tutorials).  It also has
>> the benefit of being cross platform and the [dis-]advantage (depending on
>> who you ask) of being primarily GUI based.  There are several flavors of
>> VNC:
>>   http://www.realvnc.com/
>>   http://www.tightvnc.com/
>>   http://www.uvnc.com/
>>
>> At SLUG, we mostly use TightVNC but we are also using it within a LAN
>> most of the time.  BTW, it is really handy for doing classes and meetings
>> where people can look at there own screens to see what the
>> instructor/lecturer is doing.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Benjamin Francom wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <
>>> plug-discuss-requ...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:49:13 -0700
>>>> From: Michael Havens 
>>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list 
>>>> Subject: Re: remotely controlling your computer
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>><
>>>> cafrvunkpyma0fxt9jemnrg52sqyvrspzwb0yuajxoqypnur...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> one more thing. I want to be able to auto accept the request to
>>>> access
>>>> the computer.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Michael Havens 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > What are your favorite methods of remotely accessing your computer? I
>>>> > found krfb and krdc but I only don't want to have to start two
>>>> programs
>>>> > every time I want to do this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If console access, SSH.
>>> For GUI:
>>> It used to be FreeNX, but the project seems to have not been updated in
>>> a long time.  So far, it looks like the replacment is neatx which is
>>> similar...using same protocols/compression (I believe).
>>> The NX protocol is nice/fast, and secure (uses SSH)...
>>> https://code.google.com/p/neatx/
>>>
>>> Kind of related to the topic is a 'remote session manager' ...Currently
>>> use PAC (Perl Auto Connector) Manager.  It lets you save your
>>> preferences/settings for various sessions (ssh,rdp,etc).
>>> It's like vRD on Windows.
>>>
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Re: remotely controlling your computer

2011-12-14 Thread Dazed_75
VNC is pretty handy for such things though you may need to set up VPN and
SSH to do it securely from the internet (read the tutorials).  It also has
the benefit of being cross platform and the [dis-]advantage (depending on
who you ask) of being primarily GUI based.  There are several flavors of
VNC:
  http://www.realvnc.com/
  http://www.tightvnc.com/
  http://www.uvnc.com/

At SLUG, we mostly use TightVNC but we are also using it within a LAN most
of the time.  BTW, it is really handy for doing classes and meetings where
people can look at there own screens to see what the instructor/lecturer is
doing.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Benjamin Francom wrote:

>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <
> plug-discuss-requ...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> wrote:
>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:49:13 -0700
>> From: Michael Havens 
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list 
>> Subject: Re: remotely controlling your computer
>> Message-ID:
>><
>> cafrvunkpyma0fxt9jemnrg52sqyvrspzwb0yuajxoqypnur...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>> one more thing. I want to be able to auto accept the request to access
>> the computer.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > What are your favorite methods of remotely accessing your computer? I
>> > found krfb and krdc but I only don't want to have to start two programs
>> > every time I want to do this.
>>
>
> If console access, SSH.
> For GUI:
> It used to be FreeNX, but the project seems to have not been updated in a
> long time.  So far, it looks like the replacment is neatx which is
> similar...using same protocols/compression (I believe).
> The NX protocol is nice/fast, and secure (uses SSH)...
> https://code.google.com/p/neatx/
>
> Kind of related to the topic is a 'remote session manager' ...Currently
> use PAC (Perl Auto Connector) Manager.  It lets you save your
> preferences/settings for various sessions (ssh,rdp,etc).
> It's like vRD on Windows.
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Re: What is the big deal with 64 bit processing?

2011-12-03 Thread Dazed_75
It is very unlikely you would notice the difference resulting from the
difference between 32 and 64 bit.  At the same time, one could reasonably
expect the 64 bit OS to be slightly slower except for tasks that need large
amounts of data.  There is also no real advantage in using a 64 bit OS on a
machine that does not have 4 GB or more of memory.

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> Things seem to be slower and google does not like it it has been
> loading my mail for over a minute now; whereas on the 32 bit machine it
> only takes less than 5 sconds. Am i missing something?
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Re: Errors in Kubuntu or Kate

2011-11-28 Thread Dazed_75
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Stephen  wrote:

> Ubuntu and its derivatives have specifically limited X so that it
> cannot be run as root, only as a user.
>
> This is why it complains, other distros that allow x to run as root
> are the ones who don't complain because it can spawn root X elements.
>

Except that on ubuntu it works and does not complain.  On Kubuntu, it
complained, but it worked anyway.  Ubuntu does have gksudo intended for
using sudo to run gui stuff and apparently (from another response)
Kubuntu/KDE has kdesudo.   Seems a waste to have two utilities if they both
work.  I wonder what actual difference there is that might add value to the
latter.

>
> this is done as a security choice.
>
> IT wreaks unholy hell with an installer we use at work to install our
> software because it wont work unless it runs as root. so that limits
> what distros we can even hope to install on. but as it does work on
> the one we do support development is happy.
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
> > ROFL !!!  One of the things I have always disliked about KDE is the
> > insistence that that jave to roll their own packages and name them with
> an
> > initial k or kde.  I am sure there is sometimes a reason to do that but
> with
> > sudo?  I hardly think there could be a real reason.  Of course, I have
> not
> > yet hit my limit of being wrong 100 times yet today.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM, James Mcphee  wrote:
> >>
> >> Agreed.  Maybe kdesudo would play happier.  But goofy stuff like that is
> >> why I decided to switch away from kde.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Of course.  And I did ignore it.  However, sudo does not give those
> kinds
> >>> of errors in other distros and derivatives where I have used it.  Kind
> of
> >>> silly to give errors saying we know what you are doing and while it is
> >>> perfectly legitimate and the purpose of using sudo, we just thought we
> would
> >>> complain and possibly confuse you.  :)
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM, James Mcphee 
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> You're running a kde app as root, that's what the sudo thing does.  It
> >>>> tries to connect to your kde session and notices that it's owned by
> you and
> >>>> not the UID of the process you're launching, and complains.  If it
> works, I
> >>>> say ignore it.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Dazed_75 
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyone know why these errors would occur from trying to edit a system
> >>>>> file in Kubuntu 11.10 using Kate?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> larry@hammerhead:~$ sudo kate /etc/lsb-release
> >>>>>> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
> >>>>>> 0.
> >>>>>> Error: "/tmp/kde-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> >>>>>> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> >>>>>> kdeinit4: Shutting down running client.
> >>>>>> Connecting to deprecated signal
> >>>>>>
> QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
> >>>>>> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> >>>>>> Error: "/tmp/kde-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> >>>>>> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
> >>>>>> 0.
> >>>>>> kbuildsycoca4 running...
> >>>>>> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
> >>>>>> 0.
> >>>>>> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
> >>>>>> 0.
> >>>>>> Error: "/tmp/kde-larry" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
> >>>>>> 0.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> larry@hammerhead:~$
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Kate ran and the edit did work BTW
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Re: panic

2011-11-28 Thread Dazed_75
Mint is derived from Ubuntu as are many distros.  There is also a version
of Mint derived directly from Debian as is Ubuntu itself.
On Nov 27, 2011 8:53 PM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> The reason I believe LinuxMint is Ubuntu is because durring the install of
> Mint it asks if I should install beside ubuntu or upgrade ubuntu10 to
> Ubuntu12.
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>
>> Linux Mint is NOT the next version of Ubuntu.  Whatever gave you that
>> idea?
>>
>> Michael, do you ever try to read the pages you go to or do a simple
>> search to answer your own questions?  Googling Mint 12 codecs gave the
>> answer in both of the 1sr two results.  and looking at the release notes
>> for the Mint 12 you downloaded shows:
>>
>> CD images
>>>
>>> If you install Linux Mint from the CD, you're missing some applications
>>> and the multimedia codecs. You can install the missing applications by
>>> clicking on "Upgrade to the DVD edition" in the welcome screen or in
>>> "Menu->Administration". And you can install the missing codecs by clicking
>>> on "Install Multimedia Codecs" in the welcome screen or in "Menu->Sound and
>>> Video".
>>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> Okay. I got the CD to burn. It took multiple tries. Then Linux Mint
>>> wouldn't load on the first try. oh cool Linux Mint is the next version
>>> of Ubuntu! How do a download the codecs and stuff I didn't d/l because I
>>> could only burn a cd?
>>>
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