Re: How to reprogram the M$ key?
Joe, You can use xev to discover how Linux identifies the keystroke. The Windows key is Super_L. Under the System Settings search for Keyboard Shortcuts and you'll be able to configure just about anything you want. At least, in the stock KDE that Slackware ships. Dennis On Saturday, September 22, 2012 09:54:00 AM j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks Larry. Will do. I have several different systems. The main ones I'm using are PCLinuxOS and Kubuntu 12.04 -- Joe, please always remind us what Operating System and version you are using when you ask these kinds of questions. You should not get nearly so many answers that are across the board and not aimed at your environment. For example, if you are running Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity, the Super key (windows key) should bring up the Dash but that is not what would happen if you had installed Cinnamon or if you were running Fedora for example. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Minimum ram for kubuntu?
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 06:21:16 PM j...@actionline.com wrote: What is the minimum ram required for kubuntu? Some online sources say it should run okay with 512-meg of ram. I'm trying to set up an old Dell for a friend and since I can't seem to get win-xp wireless to work, thought I'd try kubuntu. The unit has only 512-meg of ram and when I tried a live kubuntu CD, it worked okay, albeit slow. So I installed it on half the HD as a dual-boot and it runs, but very slow and it hangs up. Is there some way to salvage this old box? A lightweight distro like Zenwalk will run fine in 512MiB. There are others as well. I'd guess Xubuntu would work well. Of course, more RAM is always appreciated. Dell has the service manuals for most models online. Especially useful for laptops. Dennis Kibbe --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: perlmagick
Mike, You may already have tiff2pdf installed which is a command line tool that will convert a tiff image to pdf document. Dennis Kibbe On Friday, September 07, 2012 01:20:19 PM Michael Havens wrote: I need this program to run gscan2pdf. SNIP :-)~MIKE~(-: gscan2pdf was working. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Steve Jobs has passed away.
keith smith klsmith2020 at yahoo.com writes: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-apple-ceo-dies/story?id=14383813 Keith Smith Bruce Perens has a nice remembrance of Steve on his blog. http://perens.com/blog/ Dennis Kibbe --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
New Daytime Linux Cisco Classes at MCC
Mesa Community College has three new daytime classes starting Oct. 17. Linux CIS238DL Sec. 45256 Linux System Administration (Tuesday Thursday 8:00am to 11:40am) This class is 3 credit hours and runs for 8 weeks. CIS238DL is designed to give students the skills to administer a Linux server and prepare student for Linux certifications such as Linux+ and the Red Hat Certifications including the new entry level Red Hat Certified System Administrator. Official Course Description: http://www.maricopa.edu/curriculum/A-C/042cis238dl.html Cisco CNT200 Sec. 46929 CNNP Route: Implementing Cisco IP Routing (Monday Wednesday 1:00pm to 5:30pm) This class is 4 credit hours and runs for eight weeks. Official Course Description: http://www.maricopa.edu/curriculum/A-C/106cnt200.html Microsoft MST155DA Sec. 46217 Microsoft Windows Server (2008 Server SR2)(Mondays 8:00am to 12:35pm) This class is a hybrid class and runs for 8 weeks. Lectures are on line and classes will include review of lecture and working on labs. 4 credit hours. Official Course Description: http://www.maricopa.edu/curriculum/M-Z/102mst155da.html If you are interested in either class please email me off list. I can help you register with a minimum of red tape. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Why .jpeg -vs- .jpg ?
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 14:05 -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: Why do some image viewers force the use of a .jpeg suffix instead of just using the more universal .jpg suffix? I would think that any program wpould recognized either, same with .tif vs. .tiff I believe the four character extension came first but DOS and early versions of Windoze could only recognize a three character extension. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: linux ubuntu 10.04 disc
On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 04:30 -0700, Scott M. Davis wrote: I originally was running Windows XP Prof but when it crashed I I did not have a restore disc. So I installed Linux Ubuntu 8.10. I received updates until I was up to version 10.04. Theen it quit working. So I re-installed version 8.10. Now I need a disc containing version 10.04 I have a transportation problem and so have difficulty attending the meetings. I wonder whether someone cal snailmail a disc to me. I wwill reimburse for postage and handling. Any assistance you can provide will be appreciated. -- Scott M. Davis, M.EP 2141 East University Drive #12 Tempe, Arizona 85281 USA 480 / 532 - 3718 Scott, Can you bring a laptop to a local coffee shop and download the ISO there? The Ubuntu LiveCD is not very big (700MB) and I've found at my local coffee shop at Southern and McClintock the download takes only about 7 minutes using BitTorrent. I've even done a network install at the coffee shop. Once you have the ISO you can burn it to disc or create a LiveUSB to install from. If you need help with these options just post to the list. Be sure to check that your hardware supports installing from the LiveCD. If it's an older machine and low on RAM download the alternate CD. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux on a T520
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 18:53 -0700, KevinO wrote: Anybody running Linux on a Lenovo Thinkpad T520? I'm thinking of ordering one while they're on sale and then turning it into a dual-boot machine. (pre-installed with Windows 7 Pro 64 bit) What I'm mostly wondering about is hardware compatibility and whether a bleeding-edge distribution like Fedora or the latest Ubuntu would be required to get all of the hardware to work. (I'd prefer something a little more stable like CentOS, for example) All comments are very appreciated. TIA If you can get your hands on one try running the CentOS LiveCD or create a liveUSB. The issues you are likely to run into are the Wifi card, ThinkPad APCI and the Ethernet port. Most likely only the wifi will require some extra work. Make sure you try suspend and hibernation to be sure CentOS can return from those states. CentOS uses an older kernel than, say, Fedora, so you might find Fedora handles things better then CentOS. It does on my X100e. Try posting on the CentOS forum or IRC channel to see if anyone is running CentOS on that model. Also I notice that Emperor Linux sells that model so you might look on their site for more information. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux on a T520
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 10:18 -0700, KevinO wrote: On 08/26/2011 10:16 AM, KevinO wrote: I went ahead and bought it directly from Lenovo, configured as above except with Win 7 Pro pre-installed, for $1300. I got a little over $100 extra off because of the educational discount. Oops, I left out one of the discounts. I actually got it for $1174. :-D Looks like a nice catch Kevin! One of your other post suggested you might be thinking of swapping out the wifi card. Be aware that the ThinkPad BIOS blacklists some cards preventing you from using them. As an alternative check rokland.com for a USB wifi stick that works with most Linux distros. Handy to have around. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Cyber Forensics class at MCC
Mesa Community College has a Cyber Forensics class that starts this Saturday (8:00am – 11:30am) and runs for 16 weeks. The class is being taught by a detective from the Phoenix Police Dept. If you are interested in the class please call Jessica Bradford at 480 461 7771 before Friday and you can speed your registration. There are pre-requisites but for most people on the PLUG list I'm betting they can be waived. This is an exciting class that has relevance for both the private and public sector, including law enforcement. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cyber Forensics Class - Saturday! (fwd)
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 17:39 -0700, azlobo73 wrote: Is this still taught by Lt Ortega ? Ben It's taught by Det. Eric Oldenburg. Doing a little forensics myself with Google I found his name associated with an Army Anthrax investigation so I bet he has some interesting stories to tell. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Filesystem performance problems
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 12:57 -0700, Nathan England wrote: I have a hard drive that I use for storing and working with large tar archives, ranging from less than one MB to hundreds of MB and I have thousands of these archives. It is not convenient to format this drive and start over often, which I do about once every 6 months due to the problem I have. It seems that after a few months of working with these archives, unpacking, making modifications and tarring them back up, the whole system will get very slow, but particularly this drive. Since I cannot find any defrag programs, I'm not really sure what to do other than completely wipe the drive and restore the archives. Currently, this is an ext4 partition. I do not believe this ever happened with an ext3 partition, but it may have and I've just forgotten. Are there any tools I can use to clean up an ext4 partition and recover some speed? Am I missing a defrag tool somewhere? All my googling is only returning how to recover corrupt partitions and such, but my partitions are not corrupt, that I know of, just slow. Nathan Are all the files in one directory? I made the mistake of putting a few thousand image files in one directory. It slowed access to a crawl. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Filesystem performance problems
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 14:07 -0700, Matt Graham wrote: From: Dennis Kibbe denn...@mesacc.edu On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 12:57 -0700, Nathan England wrote: I have a hard drive that I use for storing and working with large tar archives. It seems that after a few months of working with these archives, unpacking, making modifications and tarring them back up, the whole system will get very slow, but particularly this drive. Currently, this is an ext4 partition. I do not believe this ever happened with an ext3 partition Are all the files in one directory? I made the mistake of putting a few thousand image files in one directory. It slowed access to a crawl. This seems kind of odd. Back from 2002..2006, we had an ext3 partition with many directories, and many of those directories had well over 10,000 files in them. Most of these files were less than 100K. Disk I/O was quite fast, and we never really had any problems at all with having so many files in one directory, even with a few really huge dirs that had over 400,000 files in them. Did they mess something up with ext4? Also, isn't there a mailing list for ext4 somewhere? I'm sure they'd love to hear about this here problem if it can be reproduced Actually I take back my comment. It wasn't the file system that was slow but rendering all the thumbnails each time the directory was opened in Nautilus, etc. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: linux classes
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 18:18 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote: so any one know of a community college doing linux (or C ) classes? Must count for credit and if it is online all the better. If it will help with the RHCE the that is even better :) You can find a list of classes I teach at: http://contacts.mesacc.edu/denn...@mesacc.edu CIS126DL is the Intro to Linux class and I'm teaching both Tues-Thur morning and evening sessions. Fall semester starts on August 22nd. As Phil mentioned classes are filling up fast. I'm taking Phil's MySQL class and can;t wait. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: timer ?
On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 12:11 -0700, betty wrote: Anyone out there know of a timer that I can use with Ubuntu 10.04. I am doing online work for people and right now am writing down the start and stop times then converting them into hrs and min for my billing. I know my palm has one, but then i'd have to be messing with that too. (no i am not a lawyer). thanks !! If you are already an Emacs user org-mode has the ability to track time spent on projects or with clients. Also, Remember can handle client phones and track billing for them. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Information Systems Mesa Community College, Mesa, Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CentOS 6 almost ready!
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 12:00 -0400, R P Herrold wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Lisa Kachold wrote: Thanks - I am especially interested in see the SSL updated. Currently the stable SSL available from the repo for CentOs 5 is exploitable. There are are no publicly known SSL issues in the openssl maintained by CentOS Please state the CVE, or if a private zero day, Lisa, please state the vector so I may set up a unit running the allegedly vulnerable service or services [ie over http, smtp. pop, whatever] for you to demonstrate this assertion -- Russ herrold One thing that people might not realize is that Red Hat back ports security fixes so you can't just look at the version number and assume that if it's not the latest it's flawed. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CentOS 6 almost ready!
Here's Red Hat's explaination https://access.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/?sc_cid=3093 It's all about not breaking a customer's system. Dennis - Original Message - From: Phillip Waclawski waclaw...@mesacc.edu To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:38:46 PM Subject: Re: CentOS 6 almost ready! Yep, I remember Linus Torvalds yelling at Red Hat for confusing folks that way, but it does make sense for an enterprise distro to do something like that, Phil W. - Original Message - From: Dennis Kibbe denn...@mesacc.edu To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 5:23:22 AM Subject: Re: CentOS 6 almost ready! On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 12:00 -0400, R P Herrold wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Lisa Kachold wrote: Thanks - I am especially interested in see the SSL updated. Currently the stable SSL available from the repo for CentOs 5 is exploitable. There are are no publicly known SSL issues in the openssl maintained by CentOS Please state the CVE, or if a private zero day, Lisa, please state the vector so I may set up a unit running the allegedly vulnerable service or services [ie over http, smtp. pop, whatever] for you to demonstrate this assertion -- Russ herrold One thing that people might not realize is that Red Hat back ports security fixes so you can't just look at the version number and assume that if it's not the latest it's flawed. Dennis Kibbe --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: command cheat sheet
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 06:35 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: Dennis, One small suggestion.add a version number in the footer so people know what the latest one is. Other than that, great job! Mark MArk, Good suggestion. Will have LibreOffice insert the last modified date. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
CentOS 6 almost ready!
From Singh's tweets: Holding out for that one extra day will help the mirrors better use bandwidth to stabalise and create a better user experience. Working on prepping the CR repo for 6.0/ to make sure that all security updates released since 6.0 upstream are available on mirrors soon. Starting the CentOS-6.0 release process with internal sync starting shortly. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: libreoffice
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 15:00 -0700, betty wrote: I see that Dennis used this program for his 'cheatsheet'. How is this different/better than OpenOffice? I am sure someone on this list will have a compelling argument for or against it! Betty, One of the beauties of Free Open Source software is that the community has the final say. In the case of OO.org the community wasn't happy with oracle's stewardship and felt that taking the source code and creating a new project run by a foundation (Open Document Foundation) was the better way to go. Just like in the past (Xorg) the forking of OO.org has resulted in lots of innovation and improvements in the program. You can read more at http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/ Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KVM/QEMU windows based management interface?
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 07:14 -0700, Stephen wrote: I have just installed KVM/QEMU and it seems to be happily running on my server, howeveri cant find any tools that work from a windows machine. the best i can think of is installing X on the server and then useing putty/xming to run them from the server. This is not a route i want to go, i really want to keep x of the server. the web tools i have tried so far have not gone well. Does anyone have some suggestions on what i can do or any tools they suggest for this situation? creating a VM and certain tasks from command line make sense, but i need a console that i cna use to actually perform installation inside the console of the vm so I can make the install happen. See if Virtualmin will do what you want. When people want a GUI for a server they, of course, think of a GUI like they are running on their desktop. I think the correct GUI for a server running in your web browser. Chances are the server is already running a LAMP stack. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Revised Linux Command Cheatsheet
I want to thank everyone who responded and let you all know that I just uploaded the latest revised copies to S3. https://s3.amazonaws.com/moodle_data/Linux+Commands.odt https://s3.amazonaws.com/moodle_data/Linux+Commands.pdf You may not see your suggestions in there yet, but I've made note of every one (only had time to respond to a few) and will use as many as I can find room for. Even if they don't show up on the sheet there is a good chance I'll use them in class. Special thanks to Joseph for the SOX PCI info. I do have student set sudo on CentOS and I can now show them why in the real world they might need an audit trail. Now I need to put this aside and move on to getting AWS Route 53 set up for Sahuaro.us. Thanks again, Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Revised Linux Command Cheatsheet
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 09:40 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: Actually, I have one more suggestion. For those using a laser printer (BW type) it would be good to have another indicator of the dangerous commands. Keep the color, but add something like a leading * or = or boldface or a different font. Anything easily discernible without color. Larry, Good point. Not sure what will stand out in BW without taking up more space but just download the opt file I linked to and make any changes you want. :-) Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: command cheat sheet
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 19:43 -0700, betty wrote: wow, dennis, that is great, thanks so much . as a really basic user of the cl, i appreciate this. i will keep a copy in my desk ! Thanks Betty, Here's the link to the latest PDF. https://s3.amazonaws.com/x100e/Linux+Commands.pdf Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet
I've updated the Linux Command cheatsheet I use for my classes at MCC and would appreciate any comments or corrections before I send it off to the Copy Center. https://s3.amazonaws.com/moodle_data/Linux+Commands.odt https://s3.amazonaws.com/moodle_data/Linux+Commands.pdf It's licensed Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 United States license, available at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/. FYI: Creative Commons has a very easy to use plugin for LibreOffice that allows you to assign a Creative Commons license to your documents and insert a license statement automatically. http://labs.creativecommons.org/2010/12/08/libreoffice-and-cc-openoffice-plugin/ Moodle 3 also includes support for Create Commons licenses. (Aside der.hans: Moodle 3 ist super, besser als 2 in jeder Hinsicht!) Remember when you create something it's copyrighted All Rights Reserved (der.hans: Alle Rechte vorbehalten) by default, so if you want to share your work you need to license it. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet
My .02 Under file commands I would add: cat grep grep -i and for less I would add less +G file Also helpfull would probably be common files: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX /etc/network/interfaces /etc/resolv.conf and so on... -- James Finstrom James, Excellent suggestions! (How could I forget grep?) I want to keep the document to one double-sided sheet so I'll have to look at things to toss out. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 13:26 -0500, Sam Kreimeyer wrote: Hello Dennis, If it doesn't make your cheatsheet too verbose, I would highly recommend adding in |, , and . I use them very often, and they open up a lot of options for a user. It may be going a little beyond the basics, but sed and awk are also really handy to keep in mind for altering files and streams. I think that they can do a lot of work most people assume they can't do or would have to write a program for. Sam, Oh, sounds like topics for the sysadmin cheatsheet. :-) I'm afraid to keep the length at one doubled sheet there is going to be a lot of useful stuff that won't make the cut. I briefly mention redirection so I might leave it at that, the pipe symbol though is a keeper. Thanks! Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 12:04 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: Good job Dennis. Of course everyone, including me, may have suggestions. * pg 1, top of column 2: please verify that user#host:~/dir is sufficient to sync * Caution that runlevels are not standard across distributions and can be modified * Instead of Ubuntu and CentOS pkg mgmt, maybe deb and rpm based pkg mgmt * drop more if it helps, after all less is more * alias, chmod, chown, passwd A more general note is that I find most cheat sheets spend way too much space on the things the user doesn't need reminders on after the first day or two. Before I looked at yours, I was going to suggest a short section that just listed the most common commands without explanation since they are not likely to be forgotten. A corollary could be a section only listing further commands to explore. After looking at your sheet, neither seems practical. Larry Great suggestions Larry! I'm just going to have to find room! :-) Many of my students have never even *seen* Linux before so they need all the help I can give them. :-) Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 12:35 -0700, Jill wrote: I would include traceroute, route, and mtr under Networking. If the 126 class allows enough time for it (or maybe is a 240 topic) use of the ip command in place of ifconfig, route, etc. Also locate, find, touch, df, du, history. - Jill Jill, I just dropped the point size down to 9 pts and was wondering what I was going to fill all the extra space with? You solved that program! :-) Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 13:10 -0700, Matt Graham wrote: From: James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com The most requested and referred to cheat sheet at my old office was the VI cheat sheet. ...because it was one sheet of paper, while the emacs cheat sheet was the size of a phone book? :-P LOL If you add in the commands for org-mode it's two phone books now. :-) I have occasionally mangled a terminal so badly that tput reset didn't help. 'echo -e \033c' seemed to work when reset failed. That may be too low-probability for a cheat sheet though. Yeah, I think your right. Also, terminals seem to repair themselves today. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College
Mark, Don worry. There are 20 students in the room keeping an eye on my every move. :-) Dennis - Original Message - From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:42:20 AM Subject: Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College SNIP Phil, If you have the evening shift, who watches Dennis and der Hans during the day ;-) Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Grayscale Xorg output
Would one of the high-contrast themes work? Also, compiz has a shortcut key to reverse the video on a window -- Windows key + N. However, that seems to be gone from Unity. Dennis - Original Message - From: Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:16:05 AM Subject: Re: Grayscale Xorg output If you use, or start using, compiz there is a color filter plugin that apparently lets you display in grayscale. The forum entry I saw gave no more detail than that. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.org wrote: Is it possible to have X output only a grayscale color palette? I was watching a show with a guy who is completely color blind and I wondered what X would look like with a high quality grayscale color scheme. I can spend hours changing all my colors and window themes and blah blah blah, but it seemed like something X or an X driver might be able to do easily... Any thoughts? I'm using an Intel integrated graphics driver. i915. Nathan England I believe in the Constitution and the 4th Amendment. I am innocent and have nothing to hide, but NO agent of the state crosses my threshhold without a valid warrant signed by a judge and properly submitted. If we fail to exercise our rights, we lose them. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Being productive with Free Software [Was: Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College}
Anyone object to my hijacking the subject? Wasn't very descriptive of the discussion, was it? I wonder if we can forget about the idea of a desktop. With (Linux) computing being done on smartphones, tablets, netbooks, and in the cloud. With people sharing documents, collaborating using content management web apps, etc. maybe the broader topic is showing ways that FOSS and open data formats can be used to achieve specific (business) goals. dennis - Original Message - From: Phillip Waclawski waclaw...@mesacc.edu To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:51:14 PM Subject: Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College I have used CentOS, Slackware, Ubuntu, Fedora etc, when I mean desktops I mean the applications that run on top of them, but I understand your distinction. Regardless of which Desktop you actually use, the software that folks use on it remains basically the same. So yes, a Linux Desktop class would focus more on the GUI software world for Linux, rather than a particular desktop environment. Phil W. - Original Message - From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:06:26 AM Subject: Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College On 05/23/2011 09:58 PM, der.hans wrote: Am 23. May, 2011 schwätzte Phillip Waclawski so: I agree that we do indeed need to write a class for an Intro to the Linux Desktop. I'm more interested in getting classes for desktop productivitity that could include applications such as LibreOffice, GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, GNUcash and OpenShot going. ( Phil does have a MySQL class coming up in the fall. ) I'm going to nit pick the phrase the Linux Desktop, as I don't think it really exists. A look at Fedora 15 (released today!) spins demonstrates the variety in desktop flavors. Desktop variations used to be simply Gnome and KDE, and now there are even more to choose from. So essentially, there is no the Linux Desktop per se. Intro to Linux Desktops might be appropriate however. I agree with Hans that the focus for desktops (as opposed to servers) should be on FLOSS applications. These transcend desktops, as well as OSs. After all, there's not a lot one can do with a desktop w/out an app. -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College
Josh, I believe it's still $71 per creit hour. There was a small increase approved but I think it goers into effect in the fall. Dennis - Original Message - From: Josh W. Spencer josh.w.spen...@cox.net To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 8:28:52 PM Subject: Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College How much per credit hour? On May 21, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Dennis Kibbe wrote: This summer Mesa Community College offers two Linux classes. Here's your chance to stay out of the heat and improve your Linux skills at the same time! CIS238DL - GNU/Linux System Administration (Section 21472, Summer I, 05/31/2011 - 06/23/2011 ) SNIP CIS126DL - Introduction to GNU/Linux (Section 12448, Summer II, 07/11/2011 - 08/04/2011 ) SNIP Each class lasts four weeks and meets four nights a week from 6:00pm to 9:40pm Monday to Thursday. Please contact me off the list for help registering for these classes. If you have basic Linux skills I can waive the prerequisite for CIS238DL. Dennis Kibbe Adjunct Faculty --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College
H ey Dennis, It seems to me that Introduction to Linux is probably a bad title for the class. It seems from the description it's closer to Basic System Administration of Linux. I, for one, would hope that we're at the point where the introduction to Linux in general doesn't include a command line. --Ted Hi Ted, (Aside: I'm trying to get Zimbra to bottom post. It's not easy.) As der.hans pointed out that's the official title. I get students that range from never having seen Linux before to sysadmins at GoDaddy. The intro class is required for all CIS students I start out with Ubuntu since it's easy to install anywhere and has good support for VirtualBox. I want students to get excited about Linux if they have never seen it before. After a couple of weeks with Ubuntu we install CentOS either on the system or as a VM. This gives them a taste of the Red Hat way of doing things and lets us explore some things (runlevels, GRUB) that Ubuntu makes, well, just too easy. :-) From the beginning I show them how the command line can automate a simple task that if done in the GUI would take much longer. We do spend quite a bit of time working in the CLI. Some students have come back and told me that was the part they liked best about the class. Others, well, just don't like to type. (This from the generation that can type 30 wpm with their thumbs while navigating an LA freeway.) I wonder what things will be like in 3~5 years when keyboards are obsolete and everything has a touchscreen? Dennis --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Summer Linux Classes at Mesa Community College
This summer Mesa Community College offers two Linux classes. Here's your chance to stay out of the heat and improve your Linux skills at the same time! CIS238DL - GNU/Linux System Administration (Section 21472, Summer I, 05/31/2011 - 06/23/2011 ) Managing Linux Operating Systems including sophisticated manipulation of file structures, backup systems, printing processes, troubleshooting, user account management, hard disk maintenance and configuration, process monitoring and prioritizing, kernel customization, and system resource control. Preparation for industry certifications such as the SAIR/GNU LCP and LCA certificates, CompTIA's Linux+, RHCT, RHCE, and LPIC. Prerequisites: CIS126DL or, permission of Instructor. CIS126DL - Introduction to GNU/Linux (Section 12448, Summer II, 07/11/2011 - 08/04/2011 ) Introduction to the Linux Operating system. Develop knowledge and skills required to install, configure and troubleshoot a Linux-based workstation including basic network functions. Learn basic command line and Graphical User Interface (GUI) desktop environment utilities and applications. Fundamental abilities to achieve the entry-level industry certification covered. Prerequisites: None. Each class lasts four weeks and meets four nights a week from 6:00pm to 9:40pm Monday to Thursday. Please contact me off the list for help registering for these classes. If you have basic Linux skills I can waive the prerequisite for CIS238DL . Dennis Kibbe Adjunct Faculty Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Tarballs
Message: 47 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:02:12 GMT From: Eric - A ericall...@juno.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 it helps if I need to create, but what I am doing is trying to unpack and install a program. Hi Eric, Since the original file has a bin extension what you have most likely is an execuable that will ask you to agree to a EULA before the program is installed. This is a common practise with propriety programs. None of the tar commands will work in this case. You can run the program by first making sure it is executable then prepending the command with ./ like this: ./some_file.bin dennisk Adjunct Faculty Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
New Cyber Forensics Class at MCC
Mesa Community College is offering a new course this Fall, CIS247DA Cyber Forensics and Incidence Handling taught by a detective from the Mesa Police Department. The course covers Windows, Unix and Linux forensics, data recovery and case law among other topics. This is a Saturday morning class and there are only a few openings left. Classes start the week of August 23rd. You can find registration information at http://mc.maricopa.edu or call Jessica Bradford at 480 461-6110. Dennis Kibbe Adjunct Faculty Mesa Community College--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
MCC offeres discounts on Linux Certification
The two major ditribution-neutral Linux certifications have joined forces. CompTia is now using the Linux Professional Institute LX0-1-1 and LX0-102 exams for their Linux+ Certification. Mesa Community College offers CIS126DL Introduction to Linux which will help prepare you to pass the CompTIA Linux+ exam. In addition MCC provides CompTIA Linux+ test vouchers at a substantial discount to CIS126DL students completing the course. If adding a Linux certification to your resume is something you've been planning to do, now is a great time to do it. Classes start the week of August 23rd. You can find registration information at http://mc.maricopa.edu or call Jessica Bradford at 480 461-6110.--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Parking for PLUG: Update
I noticed today that the vistor parking lot has a 45 min. limit. Public Safety on campus says to park rather in lot C on the East side of campus by the stadium rather than the vistor parking lot. No need for a parking permit and your car will not be towed. dennisk -- Free Software, Free Society Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUG Eastside Meeting - Thursday
Join us Thursday evening at our new meeting location at Mesa Community College's Kirk Student Center on the Southern Dobson campus for pizza and a presentation. Scott Gwin will give a presentation on Linux and the Android. Please see the PLUG website for meeting details. Did I mention PIZZA?! :-) dennisk -- Free Software, Free Society Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Linus Torvalds endorses Windows 7
Windows 7 was released in Japan at the same time as the Japan Linux Symposium. This picture shows Linus having a little fun at the Microsoft store. http://tinyurl.com/yhvy5xy :-) Dennisk --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
CentOS 5.4 Released
Although not officially released yet the mirrors are up. Just click on the download link and edit the URL from: http://mirror.stanford.edu/yum/pub/centos/5.3/isos/x86_64/ to: http://mirror.stanford.edu/yum/pub/centos/5.4/isos/x86_64/ for example. Be sure to check the release notes for any issues before installing. Dennis Kibbe Adjunct Faculty Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Virtual Dedicated Hosting Recommendations
AZ Pete subs2 at cactusfamily.com writes: Hi All, I'm getting increasingly fed up with my current hosting provider (GoDaddy) for my virtual dedicated box. While their support is stellar for my shared hosting box, they're virtual dedicated support is quite poor (in both turnaround time and technical aptitude). I'm looking for recommendations for a reliable host with competent tech support. SNIP Thanks, Peter Peter, I can recommended Linode as well. I have had a virtual server at Linode for years. I run all my MCC classes from it using Moodle and CentOS. Thier management features are first rate. Dennis Kibbe Adjunct Faculty Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: AWE... How Kute!
Lisa Kachold lisakachold at obnosis.com writes: http://tinycorelinux.com/ I met Robert Shingledecker, the creator of both DSL and Tinycore Linux at SCaLE. In fact, I bought two ancient ThinkPad TP240s from him with Tinycore installed. At $50 each they made nice 8 year old netbooks. :-) Tinycore worked surprising well and had a simple way of downloaded addition programs to extend the base. Even had a light-weight version of Inkscape. Tinycore, puppy and DSL are fun to play with, but not too practical in the long run. Sort of like driving a Peel P50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ub5rBdrE4), IMO. dennisk Learn Linux @ Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 02:07 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote: Old news. The code is so their virtual server can run linux more efficiently. Don't see how this is old news except that M$ did release the code to Windows Services for UNIX under the GPL years ago. From Bradley's blog at SFLC. Another thing that's not new to Microsoft is that they have no interesting in contributing to Free Software unless it makes their proprietary software more desirable. M$ has a long ways to go before I'd consider them a genuine member of the FLOSS community. dennisk -- Learn Linux @ Mesa Community College http://classes.sis.maricopa.edu --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:22 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7439/1.html It's worthwhile reading Bradly Kuhn's blog at the Software Freedom Law Center. http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/ From Bradley's blog: Like all GPL violations . . ., it's left to the copyright holders of the software to engage in enforcement. I think it's great that, . . . the Linux developers used the most common enforcement strategy in the GPL community — quietly contact the company, inform them of their obligations, and help them in a friendly way into compliance. That process almost always works, and the fact that Microsoft came into compliance shows the value of our community's standard enforcement practice. dennisk -- Learn Linux @ Mesa Community College http://classes.sis.maricopa.edu --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Jun east side topics
moin moin, Presentations This Month . Getting Involved in the (Online) Community . Dell Mini with Ubuntu Netbook Remix Hans, Great topics! I'll be bringing my MCC class. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Thinkpad z60t wwireless w/centos
Worst comes to worst you might want to replace your card like the intel 3945abg card because that works right out of the box. I think because u do have a thinkpad you can replace the card without issue since the wifi card has a cover over it (lenovo netbooks have one). Nadim Hoque I'll second Nadim's suggestion. The cards are cheap ($25) on eBay, usually easy to install and just work. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Thinkpad z60t wwireless w/centos
I have a lenovo/IBM thinkpad Z60T that I am unable to set up wireless under Centos. I have tried several online howtos, and so far no luck. The Thinkpad wireless info is as follows: :13:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) At this point I wonder if I have tried too many things and changed to many drivers around. I would be open to reinstalling centos if needed. Should I come into the next install fest, or does someone have a howto that they have actually had work It does work under ubuntu 9.04, but I would like to stay with centos for now as it is my learning system right now for RHCE. Thanks Steve Phariss Hi Steve, Are you using the Atheros ath5k driver that ships with CentOS? modprobe ath5k Centos 5.x doesn't have NetworkManager running by default you can start it with System/Administration/Services and check that bok so it starts on reboot. It *should* show up as your wifi device. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Network Info Security Class CIS270
If you're looking to improve your skills this summner. Mesa Community Colege is offering Essentials of Network and Information Security CIS270 on Monday and Wednesday evenings from 6:00-9:40pm. You can find additional information at classes.sis.maricopa.edu. Search: CIS270, Summer I 2009, MCC. Hurry, class starts on June first and runs for 8 weeks. You can call 480 461 6110 for more information. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Free Webhost
James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com writes: So I have cox at home so I obviously would violate the AUP self hosting and frankly I am cheap... wait no frugal. Anyway I would like to find a place to host my domain free but without ads or if it has ads it allows choice of placement in the design. SNIP James Finstrom Has anyone freeshell.org? They have been offering a free Unix shell account for over 27 years. Basic account is free and the addons are very reasonable. dennisk --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: bulk rename pod1 pod2 needed
Actually, if the original specification is co= rrect, probably none of the solutions proposed is likely to work.nbsp; It = appears that the target name for the first rename is the same as the source= for the second.nbsp; If this were true one would have to ensure that rena= me or move operations were done in an order to avoid attempts to overwrite = existing names. That's correct. So renaming needs to start at the end. (There are actually 24 files in the directory.) so renaming: ccna.pod24.pc1.ext to ccna.pod25.pc1.ext needs to happen before renaming: ccna.pod23.pc1.ext to ccna.pod24.pc1.ext and so on down to: ccna.pod1.pc1.ext to ccna.pod2.pc1.ext Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
bulk rename pod1 pod2 needed
Can someone suggest a way to rename a directory of files like this: ccna.pod1.pc1.ext is renamed to ccna.pod2.pc1.ext ccna.pod2.pc1.ext is renamed to ccna.pod3.pc1.ext and so on. (Aside: Hans, if I were able to take your scripting class I won't be asking this now. :-) Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Eastside Meeting - Making a bootable USB-Key
On Mon, February 9, 2009 7:03 pm, Dazed_75 wrote: Do you want to make mention of the built-in facility to do this with ubuntu 8.10? If you do Ii can talk about it or you can. OK, you're on for Ubuntu. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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I received this email from Yvonne. PLUG did as presentation at Mesa Regal a year or so ago. I'd like to solicit your help. Mesa Regal is planning a small Expo February 19th and we'd like to demonstrate Linux. I'll be there but feel I don't have the experience or knowledge to be able to answer related questions. Would you or someone in the group be available to come from 10AM to noon on the 19th? My phone number is 480 325 6992 Thanks a lot, Yvonne Sinnott Dennis -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Linux presenatatiopn at Mesa Regal wanted
I received this email from Yvonne. PLUG did as presentation at Mesa Regal a year or so ago. Any one in the Mesa area want to help out with this one? I'd like to solicit your help. Mesa Regal is planning a small Expo February 19th and we'd like to demonstrate Linux. I'll be there but feel I don't have the experience or knowledge to be able to answer related questions. Would you or someone in the group be available to come from 10AM to noon on the 19th? My phone number is 480 325 6992 Thanks a lot, Yvonne Sinnott Dennis -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Eastside Meeting - Making a bootable USB-Key
It's even easier now to introduce people to Linux with the included script in Fedora to create a bootable USB thumb drive. And there is even a point 'n' click Windows program that will do all the hard stuff for you! I'll show you how to do it with Fedora 10 and we'll create a persistent file system so you can install programs and save your changes. Dennis Kibbe -- Adjunct Faculty Mesa Community College Learn Linux at MCC --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux presenatatiopn at Mesa Regal wanted
I'm good for that. (again!) -- -Eric 'shubes' Thanks Eric! I might be able to come, need to check the schedule. Dennis -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Gmane, the maillist archive presentation
Get too much email? Can't keep up with all your maillists? Gmane, the maillist archive can help you cope. Read posts conveniently as a web forum or in your favorite news reader like Pan or emacs gnus. Keep the clutter out of your mailbox. I'll give give a short presentation at the eastside meeting introducing you to gmane.org. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Linux on Radio (show listings)
Here's a list of Linux radio shows including our local Gutsy Geek show. http://www.thelinuxlink.net/ dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: InstallFest - Saturday July 26, UAT? 10AM to 4PM
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:17:46 + From: Lisa Kachold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: InstallFest - Saturday July 26, UAT? 10AM to 4PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 If there is none other to man an InstallFest tomorrow at UAT, I can do so? Lisa, Now that school is out I'm planning on being there. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
FS: Dell PE840 Xeon
Nearly new and flawless. $450 Pickup in Tempe Details: http://dennisk.freeshell.org/pe840.html dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WHy is the archive not updating?
mike havens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not wish more mailinng lists but rather to view messages through the archive page. Do you only update it at the end of the month? I would think that some people are like me and would like to view messages rather than get more STUFF in their mailbox. What are your thoughts on this? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: Hi Mike, If you want to read all the posts to the list without your mailbox filling up simply go to www.gmane.org and read the list there or, better still, use T'bird or a true news reader to do it. www.gname.org is updated in pretty much real time. I assume you will still want to post to the list so don't unsubscribe but change your subscription settings to receive the digest rather than individual messages and that will minimize the flood in your mailbox. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: New email message test.
Dazed_75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Donn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen the same issue. You are not imagining anything. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Josef Lowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a new top posted message to test sending to PLUG from Gmail. This message is being sent at 2:14 pm on Wednesday, June 4, 2008. Below is a copy of my inquiry and Hans' reply. Messages that I have *originated* to PLUG from my new Gmail account are not showing up on the list archive. However, messages that I have received from other PLUG members, and respond to *are* showing up. Go figure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -aka- (my new gmail address) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe, this is an OLD issue that has been discussed many times. You message IS delivered to the discussion list. You just do not see it in gmail until someone replies to it. It has been happening for years and I know of no way around it except maybe not using gmail for the discussion list. I really do not like that it works that way but I have learned to live with the uncertainty of whether my posts are simply not interesting enough to get a reply or there was some sort of failure without notice. Apparently it is the former :) One way of dealing with this and IMHO a great way to keep with several maillists is to read it from gmane.org with a newsreader. The advantages are that you will see all your posts and your mailbox will be a lot leaner. You will, of course, still need to subscribe to the list from gmail if you want to post, but you can subscribe to the digest instead of individual posts. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
No RHCE this Saturday
There will be no RHCE meeting this Saturday to allow time for those going to the Paint Party time to prepare. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
FS: M-Audio Revolution 5.1 Soundcard
I bought this Hi-Def 5.1 PCI sound card for use with my Dell server. A sound card in a server? WHAT WAS I THINKING??!! Anyway it's yours for $40. Card is new in the box with all software and manuals. Pick up in Tempe Southern McClintock. Email off list or call 480 228 8112. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: FS: M-Audio Revolution 5.1 Soundcard
Ted Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 11:10 -0700, Dennis Kibbe wrote: I bought this Hi-Def 5.1 PCI sound card for use with my Dell server. A sound card in a server? WHAT WAS I THINKING??!! If you have a microphone input maybe you could do some noise cancellation in your server room? :) --Ted LOL! Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Commandline Bitttorent clients [WAS: Re: Lost text input on command line]
OrangeRoot1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:00:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Lost text input on command line I use rtorrent for cli and it works great. ctorrent hasn't been maintained for years it seems and is slow and buggy. rtorrent has been rock solid for me. Don't forget to use moblock/mobloquer. ViViViPirePengy aria2 (http://aria2.sourceforge.net/) in another possibility and aria2 supports other protocols as well. Actively developed and good documentation. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: oo opening as spreadsheet
mike havens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just looked at how it is saved (from the command line) and it is saved as a text file). I right click on the icon, open it as a document, save that, and close it. I then reopen it and it comes back as a spreadsheet. What should I do? On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 6:11 AM, mike havens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I created it as a document. Why is this? Could it be because it was created on a linux box? How do I fix this. (my linux box is torn down for my move to Miami, FL) -- :-)~MIKE~(-: Mike, Sounds like OO.org is treating the file as a csv. Try saving as odt. dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Microsoft joins OLPC
Ted Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 21:01 -0700, Dennis Kibbe wrote: I agree with everyone else that this is a sad day. Following on the ISO fiasco I can't see it as any other than more of M$ Embrace, Extend and Extinguish. No, I think this is much simpler. MS realizes that if they loose out on the netbook market they loose in an massive future market. The OLPC was the first and the most recognized of these today. It's a good thing to put in ads. But, more over, besides the PR bump I don't see this as a significant loss for Linux. The reality is that the OLPC project ha(d|s) tons of problems, I mean they basically messed up on 16 thousand orders that they did have. In the future there will be more netbooks, and I imagine that a lot of them will run Linux. Those will start to be more interesting and where we should be focusing our attention as a community. Well put Ted. The idea of RMS using a laptop built for children is truly poetic. --Ted I was at the FSF office in Boston in March when Richard, Justin and JAG (FSF sysadmins) were trying the work out the details of using the XO. The USB bus didn't have enough power for the external hard drive and the non-proprietary USB wifi dongle to be used at the same time. The XO keyboard was impractical for adults to type on so Richard put a Happy Hacker keyboard on risers to allow it to sit on top of the XO keyboard. On the plus side, he didn't need to used the big under the laptop external battery that he had for the Thinkpad. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Microsoft joins OLPC
Alan Dayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rhune Lord wrote: http://www.redherring.com/Home/24265 Quick read a little OT but any thoughts? I don't see this as OT. Negroponte and OLPC was the first major force to overcome the chicken and egg problem with widespread Linux adoption. This problem is that few mainstream manufacturers, software makers, etc. support Linux because there are not enough Linux users. And there aren't enough Linux users because there isn't enough mainstream industry support. OLPC was to be millions of computers all running Linux/FS/OSS, taking a huge step to solve the enough users side of the problem. SNIP But, I am very disappointed at the apparent capitulation to using MS software. It sends the message that Free Software is still not good enough, even though we know it is and can be. It contradicts many of the earlier statements made by the OLPC project about autonomy and local investment for the users of the computers. And so it makes me think that the project really does not believe in what they set out to do as the remove a foundational principle. And that is sad. Alan I agree with everyone else that this is a sad day. Following on the ISO fiasco I can't see it as any other than more of M$ Embrace, Extend and Extinguish. The openness of both the hardware (coreboot) and the software stack in the XO was unique, so much so that RMS is (maybe that should be was now) planning to use the XO in place of his Thinkpad which because it didn't have a proprietary BIOS. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Installed Ubuntu 8.04
Clayton Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Used Gparted to try and resize /dev/sdc7 with the following results: GParted 0.3.3 I suspect that Gparted was trying to e2fsck /dev/sdc7 which is locked and not the new partition! Clay Unmount the partitiona and run the e2fsck command again. You might find this easiest from a bootable CD such as SystemRescueCD. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Anybody have a kindle to rent?
On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 23:28 -0700, David Huerta wrote: . Does anyone have a kindle or know where I might find one to rent for a day (or a couple of hours) to test some ebook formats. Joseph, You mean the Amazon Swindle? If enough people accept the DRM on ebooks, there will be no incentive in the future for Amazon, or anybody else to offer non-DRM ebooks. http://defectivebydesign.org/blog/1097 Imagine a library 100 years in the future where a book might expire after one reading or can not be read at all due to the politics of the day. Currently library ebooks are distributed by one company and are DRM'ed even if the origin is in the public domain. http://defectivebydesign.org/blog/1120 Dennisk This might be a bit OT, but are there any recommendable Linux-friendly e-Ink e-Book readers out in the market that would be a suitable alternative to the Kindle | Sony eReader? This would be relevant to my interests... David, The DRM in these systems is, of course, there to lock you in and lock out competition. But for anyone who lives in their laptop a PDA/Reader would be redundant. Gutenberg and LibriVox come to mind as alternatives as do books on CDs. Dennis -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Anybody have a kindle to rent?
Josef Lowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . Does anyone have a kindle or know where I might find one to rent for a day (or a couple of hours) to test some ebook formats. Joseph, You mean the Amazon Swindle? If enough people accept the DRM on ebooks, there will be no incentive in the future for Amazon, or anybody else to offer non-DRM ebooks. http://defectivebydesign.org/blog/1097 Imagine a library 100 years in the future where a book might expire after one reading or can not be read at all due to the politics of the day. Currently library ebooks are distributed by one company and are DRM'ed even if the origin is in the public domain. http://defectivebydesign.org/blog/1120 Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: magicJack.com
Ted Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:07 -0700, Nathan wrote: Yeah, really, www.skype.org If you'd like to go open source you can choose any SIP provider and use Ekiga or Telepathy (or others) --Ted Ted's right. I've been using Ekiga with a diamondcard.us account and it works fine. Easy and cheap to call a landline if the other party doesn't do VOIP. Ekiga interfaces nicely with Evolution and is easy to set up. Diamondcard has full details. If you plan to use Ekiga to dial a regular landline try practicing with any voice-activated menu systen such as Valley Metro +1 602 253 5000. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux hardware report
On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 18:46 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: Windows can report on connected hardware (eg CPU and Motherboard make and model). Can Linux do this. I would like to see if my BIOS needs an update, but first I need to know about my motherboard. Sure. With any distro you can run from the commmandline cat /proc/cpuinfo /sbin/lspci -v or from the GNOME Panel System/Adminstration/Hardware. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu boot screen
Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dell loaded Ubuntu 7.10 on my new system. One problem that it's had since I got it is that it seems to hang on boot. I can't really tell if it is hanging. The thing only displays a progress bar in its normal boot sequence. The progress bar fails to progress. I get impatient and hit ctrl-alt-del. When it comes time to load the operating system the second time I opt to do a recovery boot. The system boots to runlevel 2, prints the bootlog to standard output. I watch the text scroll by. It stops for root to log on. I log on and exit. It launches X and waits for me to log in. How can I get the normal boot sequence to display the boot log to STDOUT instead of the fancy-yet-useless progress bar? Hitting ESC or F2 during boot should get you what you want. A typical reason for the boot process to halt is waiting for a network conntect. Fedora and Red Hat automatically switch to a more detailed view if something [FAILS]. I wonder why Ubuntu doesn't? Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: / on LVM and rescue
der.hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am 18. Apr, 2008 schwätzte Matt Graham so: SNIP I suppose I might have to open up the initrd System Rescue CD uses for rescueing and installed system. ciao, der.hans -- If you can get to a Grub commandline you can search for and specify the kernel and initrd that you need assuming they exist in /boot. Michael Jang explains all in a video tutorial at vtc.com. Search for Red Hat then click on the Red Hat Certified Engineer link and play the video titles What Can Go Wrong With GRUB. It's one of the free ones so no registration is needed. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to embed an html link in a pdf document
Josef Lowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Josef Lowder wrote Seems like I have seen this before ... How can one embed an html link inside a pdf document? I create pdf documents in Pagemaker, then print the documents to a postscript (.ps) file, then use ps2pdf to convert the document to PDF. I then use 'pdftk' for various pdf tasks, combine files, etc. But I haven't been able to figure out how to embed a link to a web page within a PDF document. Well, I've found a partial solution, but it still doesn't work quite right. By using Open Office, I was able to create a document with a link to a web page in it. However, it only works when the link is the full URL address. When I try to rename the link, then the link only works in the OO document and not in the PDF file exported from that document. Hummm ... How can this be corrected? Not sure I follow you, Joseph. The URL has to be the full URL otherwise it won't work. It's be like me posting that I live at 123 Main St. but leave off the city and state. It would be a meaningless address. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
One way to handle OT spam on a mail list
Mail clients, like Evolution T'bird are not designed to handle mail lists where you receive a large volume of mail that clogs your inbox and is often off topic. One way to get around this problem is to read the list with a newsreader like pan or gnus (emacs). You can do this by going to www.gmane.org and subscribing to gmane.org.user-groups.linux.phoenix. A news reader will let you easily score articles and so those that you want to read rise to the top and those you don't want to read will either sink to the bottom or not show up at all. Articles also expire so that your news inbox is self-emptying. Your normal mail inbox is reserved for, well, mail. You still need to subscribe to the actual list via the PLUG site if you want to post, but you can elect to receive the digest rather than individual posts. and, of course, you can set a mail filter to move the digest to a different folder or delete it all together. If you need to contact the administrator of the list that is best done through the appropriate admin address rather than posting to the list. Requests for vacation hold, unsubscribe and other purely admin matters are handled through this email address or the mailman page rather than posting to the list proper. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
How to handle OT spam on a mail list
Mail clients, like Evolution T'bird are not designed to handle mail lists where you receive a large volume of mail that can clog your inbox and which is often off topic. One way to get around this problem is to read the list with a newsreader like pan or gnus (Emacs). You can do this at www.gmane.org by subscribing to gmane.org.user-groups.linux.phoenix. A news reader will let you easily score articles so those that you want to read rise to the top and those you don't want to read will either sink to the bottom or not show up at all. Articles also expire so that your news inbox is self-emptying. Your normal mail inbox is reserved for, well, mail. You still need to subscribe to the actual list via the PLUG site if you want to post, but you can elect to receive the digest rather than individual posts and then put yourself on vacation hold so even that doesn't show up. If you need to contact the administrator of the list that is best done thought the appropriate email address rather than posting to the list. Requests to unsubscribe and other purely admin matters are handled through this email address which is different than the one used to post or the mailman page and not by posting to the list proper. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: How to handle OT spam on a mail list
On 27 Mar 2008 21:50:58 -0700, Dennis Kibbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mail clients, like Evolution T'bird are not designed to handle mail lists where you receive a large volume of mail that can clog your inbox and which is often off topic. Dennis, Herein lies the problem- the sematics of 'off topic'. 'Off topic' has an entirely subjective use. For those who subscribe to this list to trade System Administration tips, this thread is *Off Topic*. And that's exactly my point isn't it? Mod my posts down if they are of no interest to you and mod other up that you are interested in. A news reader can do that for you a mail client can't. One way to get around this problem is to read the list with a newsreader like pan or gnus (Emacs). You can do this at www.gmane.org by subscribing to gmane.org.user-groups.linux.phoenix. There are lots of tools available for mitigating the problems you, and many others before you, have identified. Blogging, Digg, Social Networking and many more are established methods of managing the problem of signal-to-noise ratios on internet based communications media. While I am not really that familiar with gmane, it is hardly the dominant solution for this class of problems. Since this is an unmoderated mail list the social tools don't come into play here. You can't digg post up and have the good stuff rise to the top. Gmane gives a lot of flexibility in reading a mail list. One of the problems newbies have with mail lists is that they feel overwhelmed with the volume and soon unsubscribe. What confuses the hell out of me is why have all this legal overhead when these usage scenarios can be enforced with technology rather than stipulating acceptable behavior guidelines such as you have just done. I mean, this is a group for computer programmers right? legal overhead? I don't understand what you mean here. This isn't a moderated list so there is no way to enforce any kind of behavior. How have I stipulated any behavior guidelines? Is it in reminding people that administrative tasks are handled outside of the mail list proper? And no, this isn't a group of computer programmers, it's a list for Linux users of all levels from Linux graybeards to Ubuntu newbies. One thing that PLUG can't afford is to alienate is new users. NO TOP POSTING! Ah, now that's an acceptable behavior guideline I agree with! Best, Joshua Zeidner - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RHCE Study Group Progress Report
Hi All, Since there is an ongoing discussion about the RHCE test I though I'd bring everyone up to date on our study group. (Hey, Randy!) We've gone though most of the Michael Jang book, which also has accompanying videos at www.vtc.com. Despite the s-l-o-w pace of the videos they are quite good. Well, worth the $30/mo. fee for access to the over 600 courses VTC carries. To supplement the book and videos we are starting to use VirtualBox to create RHEL images we can pass around so each can work on a typical problem, such as fixing a broken X server, on their laptop. The study group meets at the Cisco Learning Institute at 16th St. Camelback from 10:00am to 11:30am Saturday mornings. Anyone is welcome and there is no fee. Just RSVP me off list with RHCE Study Group as the Subject line so we know you're coming. The building isn't open to the public on the weekends. Dennisk --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Annual FSF Membership Meeting Mar 15 at MIT
The Annual FSF Associate Membership Meeting will be on Saturday, March 15, 2008 from 9:15 AM - 5:50 PM in Cambridge, MA at MIT. More details here. http://www.fsf.org/associate/meetings/2008 There is no charge for the event and if you are not a member you can join on the FSF site. Membership is payable in a yearly amount or you can pay monthly. The annual membership meetings are a great opportunity to give your voice the campaigns to fight for software freedom in the year ahead. The meeting is also a good opportunity to discuss issues with many of the big names in the movement. RMS will, of course, be there as will Eben Moglen. B. Mako Smith is the newest member of the board. The meeting usually start with a key signing party and there are opportunities throughout the day to do a little social networking. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: how best to convert a pdf to a high-res jpg?
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 22:47 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote: Problem with his PDF is that it uses a copyrighted font, if you try to load it natively into illustrator or photo shop it will force a font substitution (Since I do not have that font) The substitution is not that close to the original either. Even if it is not very F/OSS I did try it that way first just to see how complex the image was. However, since we are speaking of windows software and F/OSS solutions; I have used apps like Genuine Fractals in the past, and was wondering if anyone know of a plug in for GIMP that was similar? Resizing algorithms have improved in recent years, but you could try the old standby of enlarging in 10% steps. Also, the Liquid Rescale GIMP plugin looks promising. There is more info here. http://stuporglue.org/ Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Annual FSF Membership Meeting Mar 15 at MIT
The Annual FSF Associate Membership Meeting will be on Saturday, March 15, 2008 from 9:15 AM - 5:50 PM in Cambridge, MA at MIT. More details here. http://www.fsf.org/associate/meetings/2008 There is no charge for the event and if you are not a member you can join on the FSF site. Membership is payable in a yearly amount or you can pay monthly. The annual membership meetings are a great opportunity to give your voice the campaigns to fight for software freedom in the year ahead. The meeting is also a good opportunity to discuss issues with many of the big names in the movement. RMS will, of course, be there as will Eben Moglen. B. Mako Smith is the newest member of the board. The meeting usually start with a key signing party and there are opportunities throughout the day to do a little social networking. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: how best to convert a pdf to a high-res jpg?
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 14:02 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: . What is the best and most efficient way to convert a high-res 2.5-meg pdf to a high-res jpg without losing (too much) image quality? Joseph, What exactly do you want to convert? Is there an image in the PDF that you want to extract? Or is it the text that you want? There are utilities that will extract the text from a PDF and, of course, you can always select, copy and paste small amounts. Photoshop will let you extract an image file from a PDF and GIMP will open a PDF, let you select the page number and set the resolution. Of course, if the original image file is of low quality or the compression was set too high when the PDF was created you'll be limited in how good an image you can produce. Something like Genuine Fractals (Windoze) can help in that case. Maybe you can bypass the PDF altogether and go to the source of the image. Maybe something as simple as googling will find the original. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Flattening Images in GIMP [WAS: RE: how best to convert a pdf to a high-res jpg?]
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 19:26 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote: Also, in my opinion, if your flattening the image to a jpeg it does you no good to go through a complex conversion process since you will lose all the layers, fonts, and details anyway. No, that's not correct. The Flatten Image command merges all of the layers of the image into a single layer with no alpha channel. After the image is flattened, it has the same appearance it had before. The difference is that all of the image contents are in a single layer without transparency. If there are any areas which are transparent through all of the layers of the original image, the background color is visible. This operation makes significant changes to the structure of the image. It is normally only necessary when you would like to save an image in a format which does not support levels or transparency (an alpha channel). GIMP Users Manual http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-image-flatten.html Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: something cool I learned about bios
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 06:45 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: if you press f11 f12 at startup it will let you temporarily choose which device you want to startup with. some might already know this but I didn't and maybe some others don't know as well. just spreading the wealth! The three whays I know of bringing up a boot menu are: F12 (Dell) F2 (Compaq) ESC (Compaq, I think) If you watch the boot process there may be a message telling you the correct key to press to get to the menu. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Boot USB
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 14:40 -0700, Daniel Stasinski wrote: I have a bootable CD and I would like to convert it into a bootable flash drive. There are tons utilities to create live CD's and such, but they're all Distribution/OS specific. I just want to copy a generic bootable cd to a generic flash drive and have it work. The motherboard supports it. Help :) Daniel Have you googled? I think I've seen a bunch of bootable USB tutorials out there. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: iPhone for Christmas
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 20:47 -0700, Kevin Brown wrote: I just got a nice fat gift card from work at the apple store. Enough to get an iPhone. But then I'd have to give money to ATT. Think I'll buy something else. Or mod it to attach to a different network. Wouldn't a true geek want this? http://openmoko.org/ OpenMoko - The world's first Open Source mobile communications platform. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Using Qemu as a Virtual Machine
I've placed a quick how-to on using Qemu to run Linux or Windows in a virtual machine. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RHCE Study Group Update
The RHCE Study Group is an informal gathering studying to take the Red Hat Certified Engineer exam. We've moved the Saturday morning meetings from the Tempe Library to the Cisco Learning Institute at 16th St. Camelback. The tentative test date is April 11th, 2008. Due to the holidays we won't be meeting on the 21st or 28th of this month. Anyone is welcome to join us and there is no cost. Our text is Michael Jang's RHCE Study Guide which you can find at Amazon or Bookpool. There is a wiki open to all at http://64.22.124.190/rhce_wiki and a mail list at http://www.deanspot.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rhce-group If you'd like more info, please contact me off list with a subject line of RHCE Study Group. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: hw and sw xen
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 00:25 -0700, der.hans wrote: moin moin, a software install of xen requires special xen kernels. Do those same kernels work when running on a hardware install of xen? Do they run on hardware without being on a Dom0? In talking to one of my co-workers about the RHCE study classes we thought of using xen for them in addition to how I plan on using it for the classes I'm teaching at MCC. I want to know if we can make one image that would work for both software and hardware xen installs. The idea is that we build images of specific configurations for using as labs and we want to make them generally available. ciao, der.hans Hans, One thing about xen is that it conflicts with some laptop setting -- no CPU Frequency Scaling or suspend. :-( I've had very good luck with qemu. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Software Freedom Day Winners
Here are the results of the competition for the best event held for SFD2007 back in December. http://softwarefreedomday.org/Competition2007/Winners The Trinidad group is a hoot looks as well organized as ours. But our friends at the Beijing Linux Users Group (BLUG) really outdid themselves with over 600 participants and even a media video from BLUG TV! And Fred Muller and the gang isn't stopping there. Here's what they have planned. Thanks a lot. It was a lot of work but paid up at the end. We're now organizing a Linux Developer Symposium with Linux Foundation and China OSS Promotion Union, as well as talking with the press to write an article about OSS and distribute the OpenCD together with it. So it does seem that we made an impact. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
SFLC year end report request for donations
Scroll about have way down for a summary of what the Software Freedom Law Center has accomplished in it's third year of existence. Worth reading especially if you're not familiar with their work. -Dennisk Forwarded Message From: Eben Moglen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Support SFLC Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:22:45 -0500 (EST) Dear Friend, I am writing to you to ask that you consider a donation to the Software Freedom Law Center this year as you make your year-end giving plans. Now completing its third year of life, SFLC has produced a body of distinguished legal work in the public interest. Our ability to continue this work relies on your support. http://softwarefreedom.org/donate When my colleagues and I formed SFLC in 2005, with the generous support of the Open Source Development Lab and its member companies, our intention was to build a legal services organization for a unique community: the far-flung collection of programmers and projects that constitute the non-profit Free Software and Open Source landscape. Our philosophy of practice is that early legal assistance offered to projects when they are young prevents problems, reduces friction, and benefits everyone. We are primarily counselors and advisers, rather than litigators; we believe in being, where appropriate, lawyers for the situation, in Louis Brandeis' classic phrase, rather than partisans. Our clients are talented and generous people who put their technical virtuosity and hard work into making wonderful software everyone can freely copy, modify, and share. Our practice on their behalf conforms to their values: we try to create agreement and eliminate artificial barriers to innovation and access to technology. Our goal is to eliminate risks today, rather than to sue over them tomorrow. In these last three years we are proud to have built a client list that includes the Apache Software Foundation, the GNOME Foundation, the Free Software Foundation, the Sakai Foundation, the Software Freedom Conservancy and X.org to name just a few. Some high-profile activities, like our involvement in the making of GPLv3, have received more than their share of attention. But it's the less visible aspects of our practice that have, in my opinion, created the most value for our clients and the surrounding community. For example, we have helped projects to restructure and reorganize themselves to ensure sound corporate form and governance, limiting liability that could have jeopardized the very projects that those structures were establish to protect. Reproduced below is our information sheet that lists some of the work we can talk about. We've been active invalidating patents, reviewing code bases sullied by accusations of infringement, providing licensing assistance, pursuing enforcement, developing copyright and trademark policies with our clients and publishing educational materials that we hope will benefit the whole community. I've been practicing legal education as well as law for twenty years, and from my perspective, SFLC is as important for its role in training lawyers specialized in these issues as it is for the client service it provides. SFLC is able to recruit, employ, and train lawyers who will carry on the representation of FOSS programmers not only in the US, but around the world. We are preparing to open our first affiliated practice, in New Delhi, India, where we plan to participate from the ground up in the development of the Indian free software development community. Of course, as every fundraising letter must sooner or later surrender to cliche and disclose, all this costs money. Vendor support is still the mainstay of our funding; we're very grateful for the generous support of the companies who provide funds to ensure that hackers have counsel. But if the vendors are our only contributors, we put at risk our definition as a public charity, and rightly so. We don't want to be lawyers offering services to hackers on behalf of a community of corporations: We want to be lawyers working for, coming from, and supported by the community as a whole. Free software law from the beginning--or at least as far back as my experience extends--was always about reducing friction by increasing the peace. The cardinal idea that we all do better by sharing, which has gone hand in hand with transparency and peaceful methods of dispute resolution, has created both economic and social value beyond all but the most wildly optimistic expectations. Please help me, and the outstanding colleagues who practice with me at SFLC, to continue doing what we can to represent, cherish, and foster this way of making software. http://softwarefreedom.org/donate Software freedom is good for almost everyone, and it needs to be protected. This year, please give generously. Thank you, Eben Moglen President and Executive Director Software Freedom Law
FYI: A Quick Guide to GPLv3
Brett Smith, FSF's Licensing Compliance Engineer has put a quick guide to the GPLv3 on the FSF website. http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html The guide provides developers with an easy-to-understand overview of the major changes in the new license. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RHCE study group report?
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 15:03 -0700, der.hans wrote: moin moin, would someone who was there let us know ho the RHCE study group went yesterday? It was decided to continue meeting Saturday mornings at the Tempe public library? ciao, der.hans The RCHE Study Group will continue to meet on Saturday mornings at 10:00am at the Tempe Public Library on the SW corner of Southern Rural RDs in Tempe. There were seven of us at the first meeting with two that RSVPed that they intended to be there but life got in the way. After short introductions we decided on a study plan. There is a group wiki (aside to Alan: I'm a believer now!) at http://64.22.124.190/rhce_wiki/ The facilities at the Tempe Library are excellent. White board, wifi, wired Ethernet and enough power outlets to go around. Study rooms can be reserved a week in advance and there is no charge. You just need a Tempe Library card which anyone in Maricopa County can get. On the main floor of the library there is an Internet cafe as well. If any one would like to join us there is still room. Please email me off list with a subject line of RHCE Study Group. Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Free Software ATI drivers?
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 22:55 -0700, der.hans wrote: moin moin, anybody know how it's going in the development of the new drivers now that we have specs? SNIP ciao, der.hans Well, you could go to the source - fsf.org and look in the right-hand column under How You Can Help for a link to the Free software 3D video drivers following the link will take you to a status page here. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Status Servus, Dennisk -- Member Free Software Foundation Free as in Freedom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
