Re: Network Manager Keyring [Solved]

2009-09-08 Thread Matthew A Coulliette
Cool.

GK wrote:
 I've found network manager, knet attach, wifi radar to just cause issues
 consistently for me two apps that are both ncurses but one is
 guified do great... the later runs wired and wifi likety split.
 
 
 Apps:
 
 Ceni
 
 Wicd


This solved my problem. I stalled wicd, instead of network-manager.
Thanks. - MatthewMPP


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Re: Network Manager Keyring [Solved]

2009-09-08 Thread Jim March
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Matthew A Coulliettematthew...@cox.net wrote:
 Cool.

 GK wrote:
 I've found network manager, knet attach, wifi radar to just cause issues
 consistently for me two apps that are both ncurses but one is
 guified do great... the later runs wired and wifi likety split.


 Apps:

 Ceni

 Wicd


 This solved my problem. I stalled wicd, instead of network-manager.
 Thanks. - MatthewMPP

Just want to say that NM7 series as found in Ubuntu Intrepid and
Jaunty was indeed a steaming pile of fester.

NM8 (still in release candidate for Karmic) is looking wonderful.  I
can't get it to break at all, in any fashion.

Jim
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Re: Network Manager Keyring [Solved]

2009-09-08 Thread Dazed_75
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Matthew A Coulliettematthew...@cox.net
 wrote:
  Cool.
 
  GK wrote:
  I've found network manager, knet attach, wifi radar to just cause issues
  consistently for me two apps that are both ncurses but one is
  guified do great... the later runs wired and wifi likety split.
 
 
  Apps:
 
  Ceni
 
  Wicd
 
 
  This solved my problem. I stalled wicd, instead of network-manager.
  Thanks. - MatthewMPP

 Just want to say that NM7 series as found in Ubuntu Intrepid and
 Jaunty was indeed a steaming pile of fester.

 NM8 (still in release candidate for Karmic) is looking wonderful.  I
 can't get it to break at all, in any fashion.

 Jim
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On the other hand, I have had nothing but success with NM since I followed
the instructions back in 8.04?  On perhaps 30 new installs it has never
failed me unless the wireless card was not supported or someones wireless AP
security did not match.

I did have one flaky system with an HP laptop which would work sometimes and
not others.

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Re: Network Manager Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Matthew A Coulliette
Hi Lisa,

Lisa Kachold wrote:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f5de5634f4448d733a599c23e4bb0257p=2776815postcount=1

This link did not help me. I want to remove all the keyrings, because I
prefer to remember my passwords and enter them manually. The question
is: how do I remove the keyrings from Network-Manager so that I can
enter the passwords manually everytime I connect to a wireless network?

MatthewMPP
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Re: Network Manager Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread GK
I've found network manager, knet attach, wifi radar to just cause issues
consistently for me two apps that are both ncurses but one is
guified do great... the later runs wired and wifi likety split.


Apps:

Ceni

Wicd

You have to dump all your network values except for /etc/resolv.conf and
 in Wicd's case just let it take over. I've run months with the later
and an occasional thunderstorm will drop the power from the house, but
as long as I have power in my laptop and can get a signal I'm good.

Vi^3PP
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Re: Network Manager Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Matthew,
The short answer is that, AFAIK, you cannot do what you want.  NetworkManager 
is tied into the Gnome Keyring support, and won't let you manage your WiFi PSK 
yourself.  The keyring is in Gnome (or KDE if you're using that desktop), 
NetworkManager just uses it (pretty much everything in the desktop is moving to 
using the keyring, in an effort to work more like Windows).
You can go into the Gnome tool (Applications|Accessories|Password And 
Encryption Keys) to manage the keyring, but NetworkManager is pretty much going 
to require you to use the keyring for WiFi keys.
It makes sense from a we want to be easy for Windows users viewpoint, but it 
removes a lot of choice.
If you want to manage things yourself, don't use NetworkManager, it's 100% 
designed to dumb-down the system so that no knowledge of networking is 
required, great for non-technical users, not-so for people who prefer more 
control.
You can also just reset the current WiFi settings by removing the relevant 
network from your list of known networks, then it will have to prompt you for 
the settings next time you connect (but you'll have to remove it again if you 
want a prompt again, since it'll automatically add it to the known list).

Matthew A Coulliette wrote:
 Hi Lisa,
 
 Lisa Kachold wrote:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f5de5634f4448d733a599c23e4bb0257p=2776815postcount=1
 
 This link did not help me. I want to remove all the keyrings, because I
 prefer to remember my passwords and enter them manually. The question
 is: how do I remove the keyrings from Network-Manager so that I can
 enter the passwords manually everytime I connect to a wireless network?
 
 MatthewMPP
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Re: Network Manager Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Ryan Rix
Joseph Sinclair wrote:
 The short answer is that, AFAIK, you cannot do what you want.

Wait, what OS is this? Sure you can; patch it out and rebuild it :D

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Re: Network Manager Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Ryan Rix phrkonale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joseph Sinclair wrote:
  The short answer is that, AFAIK, you cannot do what you want.

 Wait, what OS is this? Sure you can; patch it out and rebuild it :D

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Re: Network Manager Keyring

2009-09-06 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Matthew A Coulliette matthew...@cox.netwrote:

 Hello all,

 I am running Ubuntu 9.04 on an IBM thinkpad (T30). Recently, I have been
 having trouble with Network-Manager. So, I bought a new USB wireless
 receiver. I was able to install it without any trouble, and it is
 working fine. All of the available networks in my area, show up in the
 Network-Manager menu, however, when I click on one it just times out.
 After, investigating a little bit I found that Network-Manager asks me
 for my keyring password instead of for the Pre-Shared-Key. In short,
 NetMng is using the wrong password. It uses a password from the default
 keyring, instead of asking me for the PSK. I am not sure when this
 happened, since I had wireless working fine. Can I change it so that
 Network-Manager askes me for the PSK, instead of it getting one from the
 default keyring. If not, which keyring program does NetMng use and how
 do I set it up or access it.

 Thanks, in advance for your replies. Any help would be appreciated.
 MatthewMPP


http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f5de5634f4448d733a599c23e4bb0257p=2776815postcount=1

Some $adjective named Matthew asked the same thing here yesterday:
http://www.linux-archive.org/ubuntu-user/363794-network-manager-keyrings.html

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