Re: OT: Google Voice question.
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Re: OT: Google Voice question.
> Why not transfer your long established number to google voice, > then you could take advantage of all the features As far as I know, google does not allow the transfer of either a land line number or a toll free number to google voice. And, since my current setup is now working perfectly to satisfy all of my tele-com needs and objectives (and it does take advantage of all of the GV features that I need and want), I don't know of any features or benefits that I might be missing. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
Why not transfer you long established number to google voice, then you could take advantage of all the features On 9/13/2012 5:46 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. Is it wrong of me to want to use the many good features of Google Voice that I very much appreciate in the way that I want to use it (and keeping my 20-year established and widely published land line number as my primary, ring-first number)? I do not want to go through the nuisance and annoyance of changing my primary, published telephone number everywhere. 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended to function opposite to a voicemail service. To each his own. 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. That is just not what I need or want. The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service without impact to people who want to call you. Again, that is not what I need or want. You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but not the cellphone. Again, that is not what I need or want. So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has it behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal phone is *behind* Google Voice. Again, I just want my "normal" land-line phone to be my primary telephone and my primary telephone number. Is it wrong to want that and to want to use Google Voice in the way I want and need to use it? I have two different Google Voice numbers for two different applications, one personal and one business. For the business application, *all* calls to my toll free number are forwarded instantly and directly to my business Google Voice number and I need that number answered by voice mail on the *first ring* because that toll free number is *never* answered "live" and the 25 second (five+ ring) delay is a serious detriment. All calls *must* be recorded for my business application and the transcribing that Google Voice does for those calls is extremely valuable. The 25-second five-ring delay is extremely detrimental. Judging from the many posts on the 'net on this same subject, many, many other people have the same need that I have. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
Attaching your toll free number to GV? That's actually how its meant to work. On Sep 14, 2012 12:02 AM, wrote: > > Thanks very much Joseph. I have the highest regard and appreciation for > your knowledge, many valuable explanations, and excellent suggestions and > solutions. > > After implementing the remedy that Brian suggested, Google Voice now seems > to be a perfect solution for my needs. > > Google voice-mail now answers all calls to my 30-year established toll > free number instantly with not even a single ring delay; and it answers > calls to our existing land-line home phone number after just two or three > rings. That is exactly what we needed. Plus, it also provides free > voice-mail transcription of all voice-mail recorded calls, custom > answering, and call filtering; so I can't imagine any other telephone > service being as ideal as this for my needs ... and it's all free. What > could possibly be better? > > -- > > I understand what you want to do. I was simply pointing out that > > if that's what you want then Google Voice is simply the wrong tool. > > If you try to use a sports car to haul dirt, you might manage it but > > it would be a lot easier if you just use a truck. > > > > If you want business voicemail, then there are many providers for exactly > > that; you seem to have found a way to shoehorn Google Voice into your use > > case, but I still suggest that you may find an actual business voice mail > > service to be far better at accomplishing your stated goals. > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
Thanks very much Joseph. I have the highest regard and appreciation for your knowledge, many valuable explanations, and excellent suggestions and solutions. After implementing the remedy that Brian suggested, Google Voice now seems to be a perfect solution for my needs. Google voice-mail now answers all calls to my 30-year established toll free number instantly with not even a single ring delay; and it answers calls to our existing land-line home phone number after just two or three rings. That is exactly what we needed. Plus, it also provides free voice-mail transcription of all voice-mail recorded calls, custom answering, and call filtering; so I can't imagine any other telephone service being as ideal as this for my needs ... and it's all free. What could possibly be better? -- > I understand what you want to do. I was simply pointing out that > if that's what you want then Google Voice is simply the wrong tool. > If you try to use a sports car to haul dirt, you might manage it but > it would be a lot easier if you just use a truck. > > If you want business voicemail, then there are many providers for exactly > that; you seem to have found a way to shoehorn Google Voice into your use > case, but I still suggest that you may find an actual business voice mail > service to be far better at accomplishing your stated goals. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
I understand what you want to do. I was simply pointing out that if that's what you want then Google Voice is simply the wrong tool. If you try to use a sports car to haul dirt, you might manage it but it would be a lot easier if you just use a truck. If you want business voicemail, then there are many providers for exactly that; you seem to have found a way to shoehorn Google Voice into your use case, but I still suggest that you may find an actual business voice mail service to be far better at accomplishing your stated goals. As you say, "To each his own", I merely attempted to help you understand the fundamental limitations in the product (as part of it's designed purpose) that caused your frustration, in answer to your original question. On 09/13/2012 05:46 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: > >> I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. > > Is it wrong of me to want to use the many good features of Google Voice > that I very much appreciate in the way that I want to use it (and keeping > my 20-year established and widely published land line number as my > primary, ring-first number)? I do not want to go through the nuisance and > annoyance of changing my primary, published telephone number everywhere. > >> 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended >> to function opposite to a voicemail service. > > To each his own. > >> 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then >> forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, >> gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. > > That is just not what I need or want. > >> The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your >> home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service without >> impact to people who want to call you. > > Again, that is not what I need or want. > >> You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring >> through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but >> not the cellphone. > > Again, that is not what I need or want. > >> So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has it >> behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal >> phone is *behind* Google Voice. > > Again, I just want my "normal" land-line phone to be my primary telephone > and my primary telephone number. Is it wrong to want that and to want to > use Google Voice in the way I want and need to use it? > > I have two different Google Voice numbers for two different applications, > one personal and one business. For the business application, *all* calls > to my toll free number are forwarded instantly and directly to my business > Google Voice number and I need that number answered by voice mail on the > *first ring* because that toll free number is *never* answered "live" and > the 25 second (five+ ring) delay is a serious detriment. All calls *must* > be recorded for my business application and the transcribing that Google > Voice does for those calls is extremely valuable. The 25-second five-ring > delay is extremely detrimental. > > Judging from the many posts on the 'net on this same subject, many, many > other people have the same need that I have. > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question. SOLVED
Thank you Brian. That works perfectly! > Try setting the do not disturb on the line you want answered > immediately. You should be able to set to for 999days and then you'll > have to set it again in 2015. In theory that should make it answer > immediately. > > If not, then you are trying to use a Pontiac Fiero as a moving van, it's > just not made to do that. > > Brian > > > On 09/13/2012 05:46 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: >> >>> I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. >> >> Is it wrong of me to want to use the many good features of Google Voice >> that I very much appreciate in the way that I want to use it (and >> keeping >> my 20-year established and widely published land line number as my >> primary, ring-first number)? I do not want to go through the nuisance >> and >> annoyance of changing my primary, published telephone number everywhere. >> >>> 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended >>> to function opposite to a voicemail service. >> >> To each his own. >> >>> 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then >>> forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, >>> gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. >> >> That is just not what I need or want. >> >>> The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not >>> your >>> home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service >>> without >>> impact to people who want to call you. >> >> Again, that is not what I need or want. >> >>> You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only >>> ring >>> through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but >>> not the cellphone. >> >> Again, that is not what I need or want. >> >>> So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has >>> it >>> behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal >>> phone is *behind* Google Voice. >> >> Again, I just want my "normal" land-line phone to be my primary >> telephone >> and my primary telephone number. Is it wrong to want that and to want >> to >> use Google Voice in the way I want and need to use it? >> >> I have two different Google Voice numbers for two different >> applications, >> one personal and one business. For the business application, *all* calls >> to my toll free number are forwarded instantly and directly to my >> business >> Google Voice number and I need that number answered by voice mail on the >> *first ring* because that toll free number is *never* answered "live" >> and >> the 25 second (five+ ring) delay is a serious detriment. All calls >> *must* >> be recorded for my business application and the transcribing that Google >> Voice does for those calls is extremely valuable. The 25-second >> five-ring >> delay is extremely detrimental. >> >> Judging from the many posts on the 'net on this same subject, many, many >> other people have the same need that I have. >> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
Try setting the do not disturb on the line you want answered immediately. You should be able to set to for 999days and then you'll have to set it again in 2015. In theory that should make it answer immediately. If not, then you are trying to use a Pontiac Fiero as a moving van, it's just not made to do that. Brian On 09/13/2012 05:46 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. Is it wrong of me to want to use the many good features of Google Voice that I very much appreciate in the way that I want to use it (and keeping my 20-year established and widely published land line number as my primary, ring-first number)? I do not want to go through the nuisance and annoyance of changing my primary, published telephone number everywhere. 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended to function opposite to a voicemail service. To each his own. 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. That is just not what I need or want. The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service without impact to people who want to call you. Again, that is not what I need or want. You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but not the cellphone. Again, that is not what I need or want. So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has it behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal phone is *behind* Google Voice. Again, I just want my "normal" land-line phone to be my primary telephone and my primary telephone number. Is it wrong to want that and to want to use Google Voice in the way I want and need to use it? I have two different Google Voice numbers for two different applications, one personal and one business. For the business application, *all* calls to my toll free number are forwarded instantly and directly to my business Google Voice number and I need that number answered by voice mail on the *first ring* because that toll free number is *never* answered "live" and the 25 second (five+ ring) delay is a serious detriment. All calls *must* be recorded for my business application and the transcribing that Google Voice does for those calls is extremely valuable. The 25-second five-ring delay is extremely detrimental. Judging from the many posts on the 'net on this same subject, many, many other people have the same need that I have. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
so wait a second... google e same area but not if you are going to be moving.voice is just a redirection number! very good if you are going to stay in th :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM, wrote: > > > I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. > > Is it wrong of me to want to use the many good features of Google Voice > that I very much appreciate in the way that I want to use it (and keeping > my 20-year established and widely published land line number as my > primary, ring-first number)? I do not want to go through the nuisance and > annoyance of changing my primary, published telephone number everywhere. > > > 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended > > to function opposite to a voicemail service. > > To each his own. > > > 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then > > forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, > > gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. > > That is just not what I need or want. > > > The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your > > home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service without > > impact to people who want to call you. > > Again, that is not what I need or want. > > > You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring > > through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but > > not the cellphone. > > Again, that is not what I need or want. > > > So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has > it > > behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal > > phone is *behind* Google Voice. > > Again, I just want my "normal" land-line phone to be my primary telephone > and my primary telephone number. Is it wrong to want that and to want to > use Google Voice in the way I want and need to use it? > > I have two different Google Voice numbers for two different applications, > one personal and one business. For the business application, *all* calls > to my toll free number are forwarded instantly and directly to my business > Google Voice number and I need that number answered by voice mail on the > *first ring* because that toll free number is *never* answered "live" and > the 25 second (five+ ring) delay is a serious detriment. All calls *must* > be recorded for my business application and the transcribing that Google > Voice does for those calls is extremely valuable. The 25-second five-ring > delay is extremely detrimental. > > Judging from the many posts on the 'net on this same subject, many, many > other people have the same need that I have. > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
> I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. Is it wrong of me to want to use the many good features of Google Voice that I very much appreciate in the way that I want to use it (and keeping my 20-year established and widely published land line number as my primary, ring-first number)? I do not want to go through the nuisance and annoyance of changing my primary, published telephone number everywhere. > 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended > to function opposite to a voicemail service. To each his own. > 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then > forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, > gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. That is just not what I need or want. > The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your > home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service without > impact to people who want to call you. Again, that is not what I need or want. > You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring > through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but > not the cellphone. Again, that is not what I need or want. > So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has it > behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal > phone is *behind* Google Voice. Again, I just want my "normal" land-line phone to be my primary telephone and my primary telephone number. Is it wrong to want that and to want to use Google Voice in the way I want and need to use it? I have two different Google Voice numbers for two different applications, one personal and one business. For the business application, *all* calls to my toll free number are forwarded instantly and directly to my business Google Voice number and I need that number answered by voice mail on the *first ring* because that toll free number is *never* answered "live" and the 25 second (five+ ring) delay is a serious detriment. All calls *must* be recorded for my business application and the transcribing that Google Voice does for those calls is extremely valuable. The 25-second five-ring delay is extremely detrimental. Judging from the many posts on the 'net on this same subject, many, many other people have the same need that I have. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
To make what Joseph said more concise: 1. Set your no-answer-busy on your first line to go to Google voice instead of your second line. 2. In Google voice set that second line as one of the destinations. You could also have people call your google voice number directly and have both phone numbers as destinations (plus your cell phone, plus whatever else you have). Then if you're on the second line they go straight to voicemail when they try to call you and you're on the phone. Alternately if you don't want to receive calls turn off all the destinations in google voice. JD On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. > 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended to function > opposite to a voicemail service. > 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then > forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, > gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. > > The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your > home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service without > impact to people who want to call you. > You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring > through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but not > the cellphone. > > So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has it > behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal > phone is *behind* Google Voice. > > Hopefully that helps make it clearer. > > On 09/13/2012 01:28 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: > > Google Voice is monumentally confusing (to me). For longer than I care > to > > admit, I have been trying to figure out how to get GV to work the way I > > want it to work. > > > > Our qwest home phone land line has "call forward, don't answer" set to > > forward to our Google Voice number after 2-to-3 rings, and I finally have > > Google Voice configured to go straight to voice-mail. However, the > > problem is that after the land line number rings 2 or 3 times, Google > > Voice then rings another FIVE (5) times before GV voice-mail answers. > > > > I've searched the 'net but am unable to find any way to reduce the number > > of rings. Ideally, I'd like Google Voice voice-mail to answer immediately > > on the first ring (or even with no ring at all). > > > > Have any of you experienced this problem or found a solution? > > > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is. 1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended to function opposite to a voicemail service. 2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone, gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up. The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your home or cell number(s). Then you can change home or cell service without impact to people who want to call you. You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but not the cellphone. So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has it behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal phone is *behind* Google Voice. Hopefully that helps make it clearer. On 09/13/2012 01:28 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: > Google Voice is monumentally confusing (to me). For longer than I care to > admit, I have been trying to figure out how to get GV to work the way I > want it to work. > > Our qwest home phone land line has "call forward, don't answer" set to > forward to our Google Voice number after 2-to-3 rings, and I finally have > Google Voice configured to go straight to voice-mail. However, the > problem is that after the land line number rings 2 or 3 times, Google > Voice then rings another FIVE (5) times before GV voice-mail answers. > > I've searched the 'net but am unable to find any way to reduce the number > of rings. Ideally, I'd like Google Voice voice-mail to answer immediately > on the first ring (or even with no ring at all). > > Have any of you experienced this problem or found a solution? > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
