[SlimDevices: Plugins] Skip track when silent

2011-08-16 Thread markstrom

Is there a plugin that can skip forward to the next track when it's been
silent for, let's say 10 seconds?

The use for this would be to auto skip when you have songs with a
hidden track inside. i.e. a few minutes of no sound followed by the
next song.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Skip track when silent

2011-08-16 Thread erland

markstrom;650213 Wrote: 
 Is there a plugin that can skip forward to the next track when it's been
 silent for, let's say 10 seconds?
 
 The use for this would be to auto skip when you have songs with a
 hidden track inside. i.e. a few minutes of no sound followed by the
 next song.
 
Doesn't many of these hidden songs consists of both silence and then
the actual song within the same track ? Are they really separated into
separate tracks when ripping ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Skip track when silent

2011-08-16 Thread erland

markstrom;650213 Wrote: 
 Is there a plugin that can skip forward to the next track when it's been
 silent for, let's say 10 seconds?
 
And just to also answer the question, no I don't think there is such
plugin available today.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.6 and removeplayedsong

2011-08-16 Thread Tartifless

Well, seems like he is off the grid...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Moose 0.76 Windows SqueezeboxClient

2011-08-16 Thread Dr Lovegrove
On 15 August 2011 19:07, Richie
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 Does Moose no longer work across a Network? My Squeezebox Server is on
 my WHS box and I can't scan the database from a different computer.

Shouldnt be a problem.. If you're using server 7.6 and on you need to
share the folder
containing squeezebox.db (7.6) or library.db (7.6.1+), then point
Moose's SQlite scanner
at it in the options.

For server prior to 7.6, MySql is the default db, and moose asks the
server to unbind it.
You usually have to restart the server after it's been unbound to
allow network access..

Other than that it's usually firewall issues that hinder network access.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Moose 0.76 Windows SqueezeboxClient

2011-08-16 Thread Dr Lovegrove
On 15 August 2011 21:27, Bert003
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 I have been fiddling around with the colors to make it look as I like,
 but although I can save a color scheme, I can't find a button to load a
 scheme...

To load a scheme back in, drag the xml file from a file explorer window onto the
now playing window.

 The space where the seekbar is put in, every 10 seconds or so it
 flickers or gets lighter for a moment. Any idea why this is?

Yup, I've fixed this locally so it should be in the next build.. I
think if you play
with the quality sliders you can fix it temporarily.

 Some ideas:

 - Make objects custom movable. For example, I like the transport
 buttons near the cover and Now playing info part of the screen.
 - Let the user choose which object to display. For me I got overwhelmed
 by tabs when I used it for the first time. Confusing.
 - Now Playing and Library in 1 view. Then it would be possible to drag
 and drop music to the playlist.
 - Remove strange striketrhough option. There is an option or not I
 guess. Or am I misunderstanding something.

Some good ideas there.. Thanks.. I'll see what i can do.. Moose is due a bit
of a UI re-jig..

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread gharris999

aubuti;650196 Wrote: 
 Then I suggest staying with one and only one server, and setting it to
 suspend (not hibernate, not shutdown) when the SB idle threshold is
 reached. Most PCs can come out of suspend and be running SBS in 2-3
 seconds, something the non-techies in my family never even notice. Why
 futz about looking for the broadcasting server (esp when it won't
 work, as Gordon says), when you could have the single server awake and
 streaming in less time?
My guess is that he doesn't have a server per se, but rather a couple
of family PCs that are milti-use.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread aubuti

gharris999;650264 Wrote: 
 My guess is that he doesn't have a server per se, but rather a couple of
 family PCs that are milti-use.
I had guessed that his new Shuttle pc
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89568) was a dedicated
server, but I was probably wrong about that. But even if it's a couple
of family PCs, it may be possible to convince/train the family to log
off and let the one server pc put itself to sleep, rather than
shutting it down when they are done with whatever they are doing on it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Skip track when silent

2011-08-16 Thread markstrom

erland;650221 Wrote: 
 Doesn't many of these hidden songs consists of both silence and then the
 actual song within the same track ? Are they really separated into
 separate tracks when ripping ?

I refer to a track that is four minutes of sound, four minutes of
silence and four minutes of sound.

Correctly ripped it should have been split into two tracks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread castalla

You're both right!  Originally the shuttle was going to be a dedicated
server.  But then I reckoned that the netbook is on almost all day, so
intended that the shuttle would take over when I shut the netbook down
for the night.  The shuttle will also be a iPlayer streamer on
occasions.

I suppose I could just use the Shutdown to Shuttle menu option? And
viceversa the next morning on the Shuttle - Shutdown to Netbook?

I was just hoping it would all work automatically when either machine
shut-down or started up.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread gharris999

castalla;650281 Wrote: 
 You're both right!  Originally the shuttle was going to be a dedicated
 server.  But then I reckoned that the netbook is on almost all day, so
 intended that the shuttle would take over when I shut the netbook down
 for the night.  The shuttle will also be a iPlayer streamer on
 occasions.
 
 I suppose I could just use the Shutdown to Shuttle menu option? And
 viceversa the next morning on the Shuttle - Shutdown to Netbook?
 
 I was just hoping it would all work automatically when either machine
 shut-down or started up.

On machines running Linux, it is possible to automate this sort of
behavior since there are system scripts that get run at the time of
halt, sleep or hibernation.  You can modify those scripts, adding CLI
requests that can direct SBS and players to jump through any hoops you
wish.  But, as far as I know, there is no autoexec.bat for sleep on
windows.  Thus the need for a new, separate utility.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread castalla

So, do you accept there is a NEED 


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread aubuti

castalla;650281 Wrote: 
 You're both right!  Originally the shuttle was going to be a dedicated
 server.  But then I reckoned that the netbook is on almost all day, so
 intended that the shuttle would take over when I shut the netbook down
 for the night.  The shuttle will also be a iPlayer streamer on
 occasions.
I guess I'm still not understanding why you want the netbook to be a
part-time SB server. Why not leave SBS entirely to the shuttle pc,
letting it suspend or hibernate when it's not in use? Switching between
servers seems unnecessarily complicated, esp for your non-techy users.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread castalla

I don't know if there's a technical term for it - you said futzing,
maybe I'd say nadgering!   Because it's there, I guess I'm just
investigating the possibilities.

No doubt at some point I'll settle on the simplest setup!

(Many moons I set up and adminstered a large Novell network for over
100 users - that took a lot of futzing!).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread gharris999

castalla;650283 Wrote: 
 So, do you accept there is a NEED Need has nothing to do with 
 incentive, unfortunately.  Last time I got
paid to write software, I was billing at $95/hour.  That was back in
1995.  With a 50% rise in the CPI over the intervening 16 years, I'd be
billing at $142.67 per hour these days in order to make the same kind of
money.

Nobody is going to pay me that rate to do this work.  If my only
compensation for this will be the temporary thanks of the two or three
people who will use itwell, I think you can see why this project is
on my back burner.

castalla;650283 Wrote: 
 From what you wrote above about Win vs Linux ... does this mean that the
 external shutdown options only apply to Linux.  I assumed the web
 interface would be tailored for the specific OS - so, is it the same
 across all OS's?No, not at all.  Again, the external option is _*shutdown*_ 
 specific
and works on windows, linux and osx.  SrvrPowerCtrl has no direct hooks
into the os-enabled power management schemes on any of those platforms.

Remember: SrvrPowerCtrl was designed to provide a replacement power
management utility for a
_stand-alone,_headless,_single-purpose_dedicated_audio_server_.  I've
extended it in the past year so that it is a little more system
aware, and it's now capable of monitoring network traffic as part of
determining idle conditions.  I did that using example code from
epoch1970 and primarily for my own purposes.  My
_stand-alone,_headless,_single-purpose_dedicated_audio_server_ now runs
a dlna service serving up video.  But the basic model is still the
same.

SrvrPowerCtrl really isn't an appropriate power management tool for a
general-use computer.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread castalla

Thanks for all your comments and free work!!!  I appreciate it.

I'll patiently wait for any developments!

Cheers


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread gharris999

I should add that my patience is being tried here.  If anyone has ever
wondered why SrvrPowerCtrl has never shown up on the list of Other 3rd
party plugins or on the recommended list, this is why.  -I've never
attempted to get it on those lists.-  SrvrPowerCtrl is too complex and
life is too short for me to dedicate any more time than I already do to
answering questions from a larger installed user base.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread carib

If this is any consolation, I gave up on this plugin after reading
trough the infinite number of postings and never getting it to work
properly. I'm sure a lot of effort has been put into it but in the end
it's definitely. NOT user friendly.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread hm417308919kathy

Hi Looking at the changes you are making I think it make sense I'll give
it a try thanks!
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread gharris999

carib;650308 Wrote: 
 If this is any consolation, I gave up on this plugin after reading
 trough the infinite number of postings and never getting it to work
 properly. I'm sure a lot of effort has been put into it but in the end
 it's definitely. NOT user friendly.Thanks for the feedback.  This thread is 
 now closed in the sense that I
won't be monitoring it any more or providing any help to users.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius :stream stopped..you are no longer ...

2011-08-16 Thread netchord

Update:  I've spoken to someone who is in a position to help, and the
issue is being worked on- no word yet on when it will be fixed, but
both companies are aware of the bug and working towards a fix.  as i
get more info i'll post it here.

btw, the 90 minute timeout that's been referenced elsewhere only
applies to the web-based online media Player, not squeezeboxen and
other devices.  these is no timeout on any device implementation of the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread castalla

That's a blow - I think it's a great plugin!  

Saying it's not-user friendly is hardly a reason to give up.  

It's a technical plugin not a Disney-Channel plugin!!

I appreciated all the help and explanations gharris gave.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Skip track when silent

2011-08-16 Thread erland

markstrom;650280 Wrote: 
 I refer to a track that is four minutes of sound, four minutes of
 silence and four minutes of sound.
 
 Correctly ripped it should have been split into two tracks.
 
Do you have lots of them ?
If not, the easiest solution is probably to just open the rips in an
audio editor and split them and remove the silence.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius :stream stopped..you are no longer ...

2011-08-16 Thread Ikabob

netchord;650315 Wrote: 
 Update:  I've spoken to someone who is in a position to help, and the
 issue is being worked on- no word yet on when it will be fixed, but
 both companies are aware of the bug and working towards a fix.  as i
 get more info i'll post it here.
 
 btw, the 90 minute timeout that's been referenced elsewhere only
 applies to the web-based online media Player, not squeezeboxen and
 other devices.  these is no timeout on any device implementation of the
 SiriusXM service.

Great reportthank you very much. I hope that when Sirius.com
streams are fixed that it will be announced so that I can rejoin my
subscription. I actually miss many of the awesome stations on the
Sirius program lists. I did not want to cancel the subscription in the
first place. Good to also hear that the 90 minute timeout was a fluke
too!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2011-08-16 Thread AVman

AVman;649881 Wrote: 
 am I correct in assuming the reason this does not work for me is because
 I am using SBS on my WD NAS drive?.
 
 Also the logitech application does not work. When selecting a track I
 get host has reset connection.
 
 Any help really appreciated as I used napster alot on my previous
 system and that doesn't work with squeezeplay either.

TO add a bit more clarification to this, when using this app I get
connection timed out: Transport End point is not connected. This
happens as soon as I drill down enough to see any real data so Top 100
is ok but selecting Artists or anything else shows this error message.

I have been through the setup on SBS and the helper app is not
running.

Again I'm running SBS on my WD mybook world live and everything else
runs nicely.

Any help is really appreciated, I love 6 music but its the only station
I can stand so some options would be nice :-).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2011-08-16 Thread Triode

AVman;650335 Wrote: 
 Again I'm running SBS on my WD mybook world live and everything else
 runs nicely.

Can you explain what you mean by this - is this the server in which
case it will need to have a cpu and operating system which is supported
by the plugin.  I am not familar with this so can't really comment on
whether this will be possible.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2011-08-16 Thread AVman

sure,

squeezebox server is running on my Western Digital NAS drive which is a
linux format. Your question explains why I can't use the plugin as I
think its safe to assume it doesn't have a supported CPU.

looks like I need to pick up a cheap pc from somewhere.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread carib

Really sorry if I offended.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread nietgiftig

gharris999;650314 Wrote: 
 Thanks for the feedback.  This thread is now closed in the sense that I
 won't be monitoring it any more or providing any help to users.

What?

Many thanks to the users who don't know how to communicate with a
dedicated person.

Thanks mr Harris for the help you did provide the last years


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread nietgiftig

carib;650347 Wrote: 
 Really sorry if I offended.

From your profile page

carib has not made any friends yet


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread carib

nietgiftig;650355 Wrote: 
 From your profile page
 
 carib has not made any friends yet

It's a sad state of affairs when one can't express one's opinions.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread castalla

... and its a sad state affairs that such expression has lost other
users direct help and comment from the author!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread aubuti

carib;650365 Wrote: 
 It's a sad state of affairs when one can't express one's opinions.
Oh please, don't play the victim. You expressed your opinion. And now
others may do the same, and if it means disagreeing with you, then so
be it. 

My opinion? That it's pretty sad that even -...after reading trough
the infinite number of postings and never getting it to work
properly.- you never bothered to post in this thread until today. And
then when you finally posted, all you have to say is that it's not user
friendly, presumably because _you_ can't figure it out, or even be
bothered to ask for help. And chose to say that at a time when gharris
had already said his patience was thin. You're not only an ingrate, but
your timing sucks, too.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2011-08-16 Thread epoch1970

Darn! Now can someone apologize a 100 times in this thread so that it
breaks the #2000 mark anyway??

If you want SBS to integrate the power events loop of an OS, ask
Logitech support. Not plugin developers. This could make the control
panels included in the Mac and Windows distributions actually useful,
BTW. 
If you want multi-library, location independent, music service, ask the
same. They'll cloud you that in a jiffy. 

Those using a (mostly) dedicated music server and looking to cut its
consumption from 24/7 (ie no power management) to just on-demand (ie
smart PM according to scheduling, SBS and player states) will find
srvPowerControl an incredibly useful and flexible plugin. 

(How do I know? Because I coded functions similar to some of the
plugin's myself, all external perl code using the CLI. You don't want
to do that, friends.)


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Daily dose delivered by: 3 SB Classic, 1 SB Boom • iPeng (iPhone + iPad)
• Squeezebox Server 7.6 (Debian 5.0)  with plugins: MusicIP • Server
Power Control by Gordon Harris •  WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld •
IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) • Find cover art by bpa • BBC iPlayer,
SwitchPlayer by Triode • PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple • TrackStat,
Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson • SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu
by Peter Watkins.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Moose 0.76 Windows SqueezeboxClient

2011-08-16 Thread Grahame

No Album art in now playing page ( or now playing popup)

Server is RC on widows
Version: 7.6.1 - r33082 @ Mon Aug 15 02:06:39 PDT 2011

Album art shows in Web interface.

On Moose Version 0.76
Copied library.db before Rescan/Update
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\Squeezebox\Cache\library.db

Updated all Thumbnails in Caches

Album art appears in Moose Library, and Moose Cover Chooser.

Toggled though all options in Cover Art group in Now Playing Tab in
properties, but no observed change (no album art) in now playing.

Hmm Turned on Moose logging and I see messages like

GetImage Get:
http://127.0.0.1:9000/music/112318/cover.jpg?player=00:04:20:06:5a:76
EXCEPTION: UpdateCoverImage - (file:///F:/Lossless/T/Tzuke, Judie/Judie
Tzuke - Left Hand Talking/04 - Left Hand Talking.flac) (Left Hand
Talking)
(http://127.0.0.1:9000/music/112318/cover.jpg?player=00:04:20:06:5a:76)
EXCEPTION: UpdateCoverImage - Parameter is not valid.

whereas 

http://127.0.0.1:9000/music/8700bf22/cover
and 
http://127.0.0.1:9000/music/8700bf22/cover.jpg?player=00:04:20:06:5a:76

(derived from the album art in the Web UI
Will show the right album art in a browser.

Any thoughts / ideas / experiments you want me to try?

(sorry about the autoquoting of the URLS, mouseover will show the full
URLS)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated

2011-08-16 Thread MrSinatra

Andrew and everyone else reading this thread, PLEASE vote for these
bugs!

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9523

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17081

that is how you apply pressure to the devs to get the damn things
fixed!


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using:
sb2  droid (my home) / duet  ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b -
win7  xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 -
d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac
::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!::

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Download to Library plugin anyone?

2011-08-16 Thread erland

Nobody interested in trying to implement this ?
Is pippin the only one who would like this kind of functionality ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6

2011-08-16 Thread erland

PasTim;649812 Wrote: 
 I have turned off all automatic Custom Scans, and now run them manually
 when I need to.  I had to do this because I quite often add tracks and
 play them straight away (via Music Folders) to make sure they are OK. 
 SBS does a short scan which runs OK, but then if Custom Scan is
 configured to kick in after an SBS scan it stops SBS from responding or
 being able to play music.
 
Just to better understand the real problem here, could you look in the
server.log file and see how long time it is between the log message
saying:

CustomScan: Synchronizing Custom Scan data, please wait...

And the one saying:
CustomScan: Synchronization finished

I'm interested in the time it takes between these two log messages both
at Squeezebox Server startup and also after a Custom Scan operation has
started due to browsing by Music Folder.


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