Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-15 Thread jdwek

I posted elsewhere here that my upgrade to mountain lion now no longer
allows continuous streaming.  I also suspected it was a sleep issue and
it seems to be confirmed here.  I did not have any issues with Lion and
I had no extraneous application running in the background.  Glad to see
I am not alone here.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotify V2.2.7 not working on Qnap Arm 219P - won't' remember password

2012-08-15 Thread Dickie71

I can enter the username but for some reason the settings page won't
remember the password.  So when it tries to connect to Spotify as part
of its test the log in fails.

I get the message Unable to log in to Spotify: Password not set



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC on ARM based NAS

2012-08-15 Thread stulluk

bpa wrote: 
 I thik you need to contact the mplayer developers.
 http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/mailing_lists.html
 
 All I did was port mplayer onto ARM for the purpose of only playing
 Audio which is a simple task.  That was a simple compile and go task.
 
 Decoding and playing video needs mplayer not just to be ported but also
 to use the specialist video hardware on your system.  This may require
 hardware knowledge of your system.

Thank you very much for your answer.

I will try to contact with mplayer developers.

Just one question: After you compile mplayer for ARM, what was the total
binary size?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC on ARM based NAS

2012-08-15 Thread bpa

stulluk wrote: 
 Just one question: After you compile mplayer for ARM, what was the total
 binary size?

I can't remember as it was in 2007 but it would be irrelevant as it
depends on what options you choose and whether you need to statically
link libraries.

For some NAS platforms with their own flavour of Linux, it was necessary
to statically link libraries to mplayer which increased its size greatly
but meant binaries could be distributed.

Mplayer can support many different audio and video codecs and transport
protocols.  If you restrict the number of codecs - you can reduce size
of binary as well.

For video playback, alternatives you should also consider ffmpeg (which
is v. close to mplayer in terms of code) or VLC as I think they may have
a better build system.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC on ARM based NAS

2012-08-15 Thread stulluk

bpa wrote: 
 I can't remember as it was in 2007 but it would be irrelevant as it
 depends on what options you choose and whether you need to statically
 link libraries.
 
 For some NAS platforms with their own flavour of Linux, it was necessary
 to statically link libraries to mplayer which increased its size greatly
 but meant binaries could be distributed.
 
 Mplayer can support many different audio and video codecs and transport
 protocols.  If you restrict the number of codecs - you can reduce size
 of binary as well.
 
 For video playback, alternatives you should also consider ffmpeg (which
 is v. close to mplayer in terms of code) or VLC as I think they may have
 a better build system.

Thank you soo much again.

Here is what I am trying to do:

I am trying to play mms or rtsp streams from internet on my STB. ( Such
as this one: mms://85.111.3.55/ntv You can easily watch it by using VLC
on your ubuntu :) )

In order to do that, I understand that I need two things:

1) Be able to get mms and rtsp streams 
a) ffmpeg seems does not support mms (am I wrong? )
b) mplayer seems to get stream, and can decode video and audio by
ffmpeg ( libavcodec). But I feel the SPEED problem is not because of
displaying; it is because of Transcoding ( Because when I play same
stream with mplayer on my kubuntu, seems playing well, and Audio / Video
frames are quite fast) Also, I tried with -vo null -ao null -nosound.
This time, I feel that it is not transcoding, so speed looks very very
nice ( I am checking frame speed from the bottom info on the console
when I start mplayer)
c) Cross-compiling VLC ( I really want to do this, but I couldn't
figure out how to do it)

2) Display video  play audio
Celestial ( Cavium) has provided access to their DEMUX, VIDEO and AUDIO
decoders as open source. With this way, we can play TS files ( 1920x1080
HP@HL) and all MP3 files without any problem. I am now thinking, should
I do something like: Get the stream with ffmpeg, transcode to TS, and
play with demux.. What do you think about this?

Again, many thanks for your kindness...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2012-08-15 Thread atca

bpa wrote: 
 If it is not a bandwidth issue then it could be a processor issues where
 the system is not powerful enough to do flac encoding in realtime.
 
 What is the spec of the server system ?
 
 Is it true ALSA or Alsa under Pulse ?
 
 You can choose the format to be sent to player by disabling formats
 you do not want (e.g. to send MP3 - disable the Wavin Flac and Wavin PCM
 formats).  However if you have a CPU issues this might make matters
 worse.

It's an Atom D 330 AT3IONT. I'd have thought this should be able to pass
PCM through without issue since surely it doesn't need to transcode the
signal just re route it.

How can I check if it's true ALSA or Alsa under Pulse? Pulse audio is
running.

I tried disabling the FLAC and PCM formats by commenting them out but
with no success, I'll to try this again. Is commenting them out
sufficient in the conver.conf

How does WavInput chose the format to send does it automatically use
ECASOUND to transcode all three streams at once? if not how does it
select which format to transcode to?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2012-08-15 Thread properjob

bpa wrote: 
 Where are you located, what station are your playing and in what format
 ?
 
 To illustrate the issue, non UK rates are usually 48k for WMA but 56k
 for AAC except for R3 during proms when it is 128K.

I'm in the UK, and use Tunein on a variety of platforms (Blackberry,
Ipad, PC) - until now not the Squeezebox though.

You don't get a choice of feeds with the squeezebox tunein app - it
seems to default to the lowest bitrate in the LMS left-hand app screen
but then default to the best bitrate available when you actually tune
into the station on the right hand LMS screen (now playing).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2012-08-15 Thread bpa

atca wrote: 
 It's an Atom D 330 AT3IONT. I'd have thought this should be able to pass
 PCM through without issue since surely it doesn't need to transcode the
 signal just re route it.
 
LMS will send Flac by default to a player unless there is appropriate
Flac rule - so you will get encoding.

 How can I check if it's true ALSA or Alsa under Pulse? Pulse audio is
 running.
If you are running Pulse then Alsa is being emulated this can have
performance issues.

 I tried disabling the FLAC and PCM formats by commenting them out but
 with no success, I'll to try this again. Is commenting them out
 sufficient in the conver.conf
You enable/disable formats by using the WebUI Setting/Asdvanced/Filetype
menu not by editing conf files.

 How does WavInput chose the format to send does it automatically use
 ECASOUND to transcode all three streams at once? if not how does it
 select which format to transcode to?
Wavinput doesn't choose the format - LMS does depending on the LMS
setting, user options (e.g. bit rate limiting) and the player type.
Waveinput just defines rules that can be used - LMS decides whcih rule
to use.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2012-08-15 Thread atca

bpa wrote: 
 LMS will send Flac by default to a player unless there is appropriate
 Flac rule - so you will get encoding.
Is that because FLAC is the first of the filetypes listed? so setting it
to disabled should use MP3, and setting MP3 to disabled should use PCM?

bpa wrote: 
 If you are running Pulse then Alsa is being emulated this can have
 performance issues.
How does that affect LMS  WaveInput? surely the stream goes Shairport 
Raw Pipe  ECASOUND  Encoder  WaveInput. 

bpa wrote: 
 You enable/disable formats by using the WebUI Setting/Asdvanced/Filetype
 menu not by editing conf files.
Aha, is that documented anywhere it didn't seem very intuitive.

bpa wrote: 
 Wavinput doesn't choose the format - LMS does depending on the LMS
 setting, user options (e.g. bit rate limiting) and the player type.
 Waveinput just defines rules that can be used - LMS decides whcih rule
 to use.

Ah where can I set these options? under the WaveInput plugin I have only
1 option related to pausing playback, it'd be great if I could set the
bitrate. 

Thanks for your swift responses  help.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2012-08-15 Thread atca

Okay disabling FLAC on LMS seems to have done the trick both MP3 and PCM
are streaming fine albeit with a 30 second delay to the source.

Moving to a 54g wireless network PCM drops out regularly which is to be
expected, MP3 seems to be okay with the odd drop out.

Oddly none of the processes seem to be using much CPU cycles according
to TOP. I now have a working setup, thanks.

Is there anyway to reduce the delay between the speakers and the source?
I suspect this is somewhat related to the round trip time but any
further ideas for tweaks are welcome.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2012-08-15 Thread properjob

bpa wrote: 
 There is a :Logitech BBC Radio App which only has live stations and
 there is also a BBC iPlayer Plugin (which needs a LMS) and a BBC iPlayer
 Applet which only works on Radio and Touch.
 
 To install Triode BBC iPlayer Applet (which works with mysb.com )- Go to
 App Gallery/3rd Party Apps and then you get a new menu, uncheck
 Recommended Applets Only and then Select BBC Radio.
 
 The iPlayeer Applet will be installed and Touch/Radio restarted and then
 you will have the iPlayer Applet  BBC Radio menu under Radio - the
 Logitech BBC Radio app will appear under My Apps.
Having done this, selected slideshow etc, I get the message - Problem:
unable to play file type for BBC Radio insert station



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2012-08-15 Thread bpa

properjob wrote: 
 I'm in the UK, and use Tunein on a variety of platforms (Blackberry,
 Ipad, PC) - until now not the Squeezebox though.
 
 You don't get a choice of feeds with the squeezebox tunein app - it
 seems to default to the lowest bitrate in the LMS left-hand app screen
 but then default to the best bitrate available when you actually tune
 into the station on the right hand LMS screen (now playing).

Tunein on LMS returns a playlist for all the formats that the player can
pley - AAC and WMA. 
When the station is playing use the More Info to find out the formats
and URL you are playing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC on ARM based NAS

2012-08-15 Thread bpa

1. mms  rtsp

mms is an old deprecated protocol (see
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/library/82fb84a9-96f5-49dc-92d2-cf76c912aab8.aspx
) and not used (or even currently supported by Windows ) - often mms://
url is rolled over to http: or MS rtsp. Not sure if MS rtsp is supported
in implemented in mplayer.  There are 3 incompartible rtsp protocols all
using rtsp:// - Apple, RealNetwork and MS.  You must make sure you
choose the right one when building mplayer.

ffmpeg supports mms but it must be included in the build - IIRC it used
to be default in Linux builds but not in Windows builds. Also it seems
change url from mms://  to mmsh://  or mmst:// depending on the
underlying transport protocol see http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html#mmsh 

2. Video
I'm not familiar with video support so I cannot offer any opinion except
that providing decoders in open source is only relevant if they are an
API which can be used VLC, mpler, ffmped etc.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2012-08-15 Thread bpa

atca wrote: 
 Is there anyway to reduce the delay between the speakers and the source?
 I suspect this is somewhat related to the round trip time but any
 further ideas for tweaks are welcome.
Usually a delay of 2-5 secs can be expected as a result of buffering and
network transit etc..  Anyting more is due to extra buffering (e.g. LMS
Radio Station buffer timeout set to 30) or delays in server audio
processing (e.g. Pulse) or some other issue.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezeplay (Windows) - Audio Output Issues?

2012-08-15 Thread flimflam

Hi

Been trying out Squeezeplay recently for the first time. I'm running the
latest build for Windows on both XP and Win 7 32-bit, and have tried
various audio interfaces including onboard audio. I'm running Logitech
Media Server on Windows.

I expected the audio output from Squeezeplay into the Windows kernel
mixer to simply be 24-bit, at the file sample rate, and with the volume
control using simple truncation. This, I think, is similar to how the
Squeezebox Touch operates, as well as various other software players eg
Foobar - and it gives excellent technical results.

But something strange is going on, even allowing for a different design.
Merely loading up Squeezeplay (even when not connected to a server)
sends out a signal and raises the noise floor (quite high frequency, so
sounds like a hiss) - if you are going direct into a power amp and using
the Squeezeplay volume control you can hear this easily, or
alternatively if you have your following analogue volume control high
up. And in addition, analyzing the audio output with test tones, the
output has added distortion and artefacts that players like Foobar do
not have - albeit low in level.

Does anyone know if I'm doing something wrong? Or what the audio
architecture/processing for Squeezeplay Windows is meant to be?

Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server and Inguz Audio plugin working together?

2012-08-15 Thread agillis

Inguz is working well with the latest version of LMS (7.7.2). It works
with streaming and UPnP as well. It's very easy to set up on VortexBox
but I'm not sure about other platforms. As mentioned you do need 32bit
IE and Silverlight to use the GUI. But once you have both of these it
works great.



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